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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I guess I'm curious how would you have prepared your children for the nuclear carnage of the Truman era?

...The witch hunts of the Eisenhower era? 
...The brutal and multiple assassinations of elected leaders and the threat of nuclear apocalypse in the Kennedy era? 
...The bloody quagmire of the LBJ era? 
...The undermining of public trust in the Nixon era? 
...The utter malaise of the Carter era? 
...The pure greed of the Reagan era?

I could go on.

What is it exactly that you expect from this imperfect country, and what exactly makes you special in this particular period of American upheaval? Nothing. raise your kids accordingly, and with a strong compass, and life will go on.[/quote]

If you don't see the unique threat Trump poses to the American way of life you are beyond help. [/quote]

FDR put people in internment camps and Truman killed 200,000 civilians with a nuclear bomb. What were you taught in school? You are historically illiterate, have no context of how bad it was in the past, lack coping skills, and are completely unhinged.[/quote]

Both Truman and FDR's actions against Japan and Japanese Americans were in response to an act of war committed by Japan. You can disagree with the necessity of these actions in hindsight but the American people in the 1940s had a valid reason to fear the Japanese and a valid reason for why the war in the Pacific needed to be ended (Japan refused to give up and the only alternative to the A-bombs was putting American troops on the ground on Japanese soil which would have led to as many deaths as the bombs caused).

I don't view Trump as a specific threat to the American people but his arrogance and lack of integrity makes him a very poor leader and it's human nature for people to be uncomfortable when their leader is a very poor leader. What happened between the US and Japan 80 years ago does not relate whatsoever.[/quote]

And THIS is a perfectly reasonable answer. You think he is a poor leader, a bad person, but not a threat to the American people. And that's OK! I think that's all many folks on this thread are pointing out. Disliking a president, thinking they are bad at their job and working towards electing a new one is a normal response towards a disappointing outcome. "Preparing for the coming storm," trying to secure passports, hide money, rethink having a family, etc. is an abnormal, chicken little response. Figure out why you lost, what you misread about the governing majority and how you can convince people that your side is righteous. And hot tip for some other posters on here, it's not writing off everyone who isn't as tuned up as you as a "deranged MAGA moron."[/quote]

Trump isn't merely a president who is "bad at his job." He's a brewing Constitutional crisis. He's moving fast and trying to break things. The people behind him want to provoke constitutional crises, like when Musk was saying Charles III should dissolve parliament unilaterally. They want to break things making sure you're prepared if they succeed is rational.

It hasn't come to a head yet, and we'll see if the institutions of governance are strong enough to withstand the pressure he's putting on them, but that's not assured. The constitution of the Roman Republic worked for hundreds of years before it started to unravel, and then it took another hundred years before that crisis resolved itself (and ended in one man rule).

I bring up Rome because that's the background of the people working to unravel things. Musk has expressly said America needs a Sulla, one of the people who kicked off the civil wars, who revived the dictatorship, and who started the practice of proscribing his enemies.

For all of the talk about history, the real lesson is "it's very early to know how this shakes out." I think the country will PROBABLY survive in a similar place to where it was six months ago, but we are walking towards a crisis that threatens that. I do know that no one ever regretted owning a passport, having some cash on hand, etc.[/quote]

Sorry, I'm a NP.[/quote]

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