How can we prepare our children for the coming storm?

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Anonymous wrote:I guess I'm curious how would you have prepared your children for the nuclear carnage of the Truman era?

...The witch hunts of the Eisenhower era?
...The brutal and multiple assassinations of elected leaders and the threat of nuclear apocalypse in the Kennedy era?
...The bloody quagmire of the LBJ era?
...The undermining of public trust in the Nixon era?
...The utter malaise of the Carter era?
...The pure greed of the Reagan era?

I could go on.

What is it exactly that you expect from this imperfect country, and what exactly makes you special in this particular period of American upheaval? Nothing. raise your kids accordingly, and with a strong compass, and life will go on.

If you don't see the unique threat Trump poses to the American way of life you are beyond help.

FDR put people in internment camps and Truman killed 200,000 civilians with a nuclear bomb. What were you taught in school? You are historically illiterate, have no context of how bad it was in the past, lack coping skills, and are completely unhinged.

Both Truman and FDR's actions against Japan and Japanese Americans were in response to an act of war committed by Japan. You can disagree with the necessity of these actions in hindsight but the American people in the 1940s had a valid reason to fear the Japanese and a valid reason for why the war in the Pacific needed to be ended (Japan refused to give up and the only alternative to the A-bombs was putting American troops on the ground on Japanese soil which would have led to as many deaths as the bombs caused).

I don't view Trump as a specific threat to the American people but his arrogance and lack of integrity makes him a very poor leader and it's human nature for people to be uncomfortable when their leader is a very poor leader. What happened between the US and Japan 80 years ago does not relate whatsoever.

So why did Roosevelt send Mexican American citizens back to Mexico in the 1930s and why were East Coast Japanese not placed in internment camps. Then tell us why both Roosevelts believed in Eugenics and why Franklin Roosevelt insisted that neighborhoods be red lined so that no FHA loans could be used in neighborhoodd with African Americans. You think Trump is scum, look no further than Roosevelt to see the vilest of the vile.

Well then I’ll be sure to oppose Roosevelt when he becomes POTUS. JFC

Exactly. Those actions are an EMBARASSMENT we don’t want to repeat.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I guess I'm curious how would you have prepared your children for the nuclear carnage of the Truman era?

...The witch hunts of the Eisenhower era?
...The brutal and multiple assassinations of elected leaders and the threat of nuclear apocalypse in the Kennedy era?
...The bloody quagmire of the LBJ era?
...The undermining of public trust in the Nixon era?
...The utter malaise of the Carter era?
...The pure greed of the Reagan era?

I could go on.

What is it exactly that you expect from this imperfect country, and what exactly makes you special in this particular period of American upheaval? Nothing. raise your kids accordingly, and with a strong compass, and life will go on.

If you don't see the unique threat Trump poses to the American way of life you are beyond help.

FDR put people in internment camps and Truman killed 200,000 civilians with a nuclear bomb. What were you taught in school? You are historically illiterate, have no context of how bad it was in the past, lack coping skills, and are completely unhinged.

Both Truman and FDR's actions against Japan and Japanese Americans were in response to an act of war committed by Japan. You can disagree with the necessity of these actions in hindsight but the American people in the 1940s had a valid reason to fear the Japanese and a valid reason for why the war in the Pacific needed to be ended (Japan refused to give up and the only alternative to the A-bombs was putting American troops on the ground on Japanese soil which would have led to as many deaths as the bombs caused).

I don't view Trump as a specific threat to the American people but his arrogance and lack of integrity makes him a very poor leader and it's human nature for people to be uncomfortable when their leader is a very poor leader. What happened between the US and Japan 80 years ago does not relate whatsoever.

And THIS is a perfectly reasonable answer. You think he is a poor leader, a bad person, but not a threat to the American people. And that's OK! I think that's all many folks on this thread are pointing out. Disliking a president, thinking they are bad at their job and working towards electing a new one is a normal response towards a disappointing outcome. "Preparing for the coming storm," trying to secure passports, hide money, rethink having a family, etc. is an abnormal, chicken little response. Figure out why you lost, what you misread about the governing majority and how you can convince people that your side is righteous. And hot tip for some other posters on here, it's not writing off everyone who isn't as tuned up as you as a "deranged MAGA moron."

Thank you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To the woman who has decided not to have children in light of the past two weeks, I urge you to get some mental health support. Things might feel out of control at the moment, but you are planning to alter the course of your life, deprive yourself of having children (that you want, apparently) and wallow in self-pity for the rest of your life because Donald Trump was elected president?

Of all the unhinged things I have read on this thread, this takes the cake. And it's emblematic of the insidious victim mentality of the left. Don't let four years of a president you don't agree with waste your one, precious opportunity to have children. Eggs expire, you know? Can you imagine looking back on your life and realizing you didn't have CHILDREN because of some blip on the political radar?

NP. It’s actually a very informed decision. Climate change and the continued destruction of the environment aren’t just a blip to anyone educated on such matters.

People didn’t stop having children when the Holocoast, Black Death, or Great Depression was happening. You are a uniquely narcissistic and spoiled person with no ability to see outside of yourself and realize that people alive today have it better than anyone in human history. Get over yourself. SMH.

Oh haha pp, I think you just further convinced them not to have kids when they can see the quality of partners like you are out there. Lol

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I guess I'm curious how would you have prepared your children for the nuclear carnage of the Truman era?

...The witch hunts of the Eisenhower era?
...The brutal and multiple assassinations of elected leaders and the threat of nuclear apocalypse in the Kennedy era?
...The bloody quagmire of the LBJ era?
...The undermining of public trust in the Nixon era?
...The utter malaise of the Carter era?
...The pure greed of the Reagan era?

I could go on.

What is it exactly that you expect from this imperfect country, and what exactly makes you special in this particular period of American upheaval? Nothing. raise your kids accordingly, and with a strong compass, and life will go on.

If you don't see the unique threat Trump poses to the American way of life you are beyond help.

FDR put people in internment camps and Truman killed 200,000 civilians with a nuclear bomb. What were you taught in school? You are historically illiterate, have no context of how bad it was in the past, lack coping skills, and are completely unhinged.

Both Truman and FDR's actions against Japan and Japanese Americans were in response to an act of war committed by Japan. You can disagree with the necessity of these actions in hindsight but the American people in the 1940s had a valid reason to fear the Japanese and a valid reason for why the war in the Pacific needed to be ended (Japan refused to give up and the only alternative to the A-bombs was putting American troops on the ground on Japanese soil which would have led to as many deaths as the bombs caused).

I don't view Trump as a specific threat to the American people but his arrogance and lack of integrity makes him a very poor leader and it's human nature for people to be uncomfortable when their leader is a very poor leader. What happened between the US and Japan 80 years ago does not relate whatsoever.

And THIS is a perfectly reasonable answer. You think he is a poor leader, a bad person, but not a threat to the American people. And that's OK! I think that's all many folks on this thread are pointing out. Disliking a president, thinking they are bad at their job and working towards electing a new one is a normal response towards a disappointing outcome. "Preparing for the coming storm," trying to secure passports, hide money, rethink having a family, etc. is an abnormal, chicken little response. Figure out why you lost, what you misread about the governing majority and how you can convince people that your side is righteous. And hot tip for some other posters on here, it's not writing off everyone who isn't as tuned up as you as a "deranged MAGA moron."

Go ahead and have lots and lots and lots and lots of babies if you choose. There is nothing wrong with someone taking a cold hard look at.......climate change, economic decline, country starting to resemble an oligarchy, lack of affordable housing, lack of good health insurance and healthcare options for your family, lack of respect for health and science, lack of respect for women, decline of basic rights for women, increasing dangers from pregnancy, and on and on and on...and deciding you know what I don't know that I'm going to have a child right now. This is not a country that is serious about doing anything about any of these issues.

I hear you, the world is a dangerous place, and all of the issues you lay out save for the end of Roe (which really just depends on the state you live in) were issues before Trump, and they will be issues after him. I take issue with folks saying they have made the decision to not have babies after witnessing the last two weeks. I mean. go ahead, don't bring kids into an uncertain world, but to explicitly blame Trump for that decision is absurd.

+1

Signed, NP who did not vote for Trump.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess I'm curious how would you have prepared your children for the nuclear carnage of the Truman era?

...The witch hunts of the Eisenhower era?
...The brutal and multiple assassinations of elected leaders and the threat of nuclear apocalypse in the Kennedy era?
...The bloody quagmire of the LBJ era?
...The undermining of public trust in the Nixon era?
...The utter malaise of the Carter era?
...The pure greed of the Reagan era?

I could go on.

What is it exactly that you expect from this imperfect country, and what exactly makes you special in this particular period of American upheaval? Nothing. raise your kids accordingly, and with a strong compass, and life will go on.

If you don't see the unique threat Trump poses to the American way of life you are beyond help.

FDR put people in internment camps and Truman killed 200,000 civilians with a nuclear bomb. What were you taught in school? You are historically illiterate, have no context of how bad it was in the past, lack coping skills, and are completely unhinged.

Both Truman and FDR's actions against Japan and Japanese Americans were in response to an act of war committed by Japan. You can disagree with the necessity of these actions in hindsight but the American people in the 1940s had a valid reason to fear the Japanese and a valid reason for why the war in the Pacific needed to be ended (Japan refused to give up and the only alternative to the A-bombs was putting American troops on the ground on Japanese soil which would have led to as many deaths as the bombs caused).

I don't view Trump as a specific threat to the American people but his arrogance and lack of integrity makes him a very poor leader and it's human nature for people to be uncomfortable when their leader is a very poor leader. What happened between the US and Japan 80 years ago does not relate whatsoever.

And THIS is a perfectly reasonable answer. You think he is a poor leader, a bad person, but not a threat to the American people. And that's OK! I think that's all many folks on this thread are pointing out. Disliking a president, thinking they are bad at their job and working towards electing a new one is a normal response towards a disappointing outcome. "Preparing for the coming storm," trying to secure passports, hide money, rethink having a family, etc. is an abnormal, chicken little response. Figure out why you lost, what you misread about the governing majority and how you can convince people that your side is righteous. And hot tip for some other posters on here, it's not writing off everyone who isn't as tuned up as you as a "deranged MAGA moron."

Go ahead and have lots and lots and lots and lots of babies if you choose. There is nothing wrong with someone taking a cold hard look at.......climate change, economic decline, country starting to resemble an oligarchy, lack of affordable housing, lack of good health insurance and healthcare options for your family, lack of respect for health and science, lack of respect for women, decline of basic rights for women, increasing dangers from pregnancy, and on and on and on...and deciding you know what I don't know that I'm going to have a child right now. This is not a country that is serious about doing anything about any of these issues.

I hear you, the world is a dangerous place, and all of the issues you lay out save for the end of Roe (which really just depends on the state you live in) were issues before Trump, and they will be issues after him. I take issue with folks saying they have made the decision to not have babies after witnessing the last two weeks. I mean. go ahead, don't bring kids into an uncertain world, but to explicitly blame Trump for that decision is absurd.

Trump? He is a scummy real estate developer from Queens. The issue is that this country elected him president and that is depressing as hell.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess I'm curious how would you have prepared your children for the nuclear carnage of the Truman era?

...The witch hunts of the Eisenhower era?
...The brutal and multiple assassinations of elected leaders and the threat of nuclear apocalypse in the Kennedy era?
...The bloody quagmire of the LBJ era?
...The undermining of public trust in the Nixon era?
...The utter malaise of the Carter era?
...The pure greed of the Reagan era?

I could go on.

What is it exactly that you expect from this imperfect country, and what exactly makes you special in this particular period of American upheaval? Nothing. raise your kids accordingly, and with a strong compass, and life will go on.

If you don't see the unique threat Trump poses to the American way of life you are beyond help.

FDR put people in internment camps and Truman killed 200,000 civilians with a nuclear bomb. What were you taught in school? You are historically illiterate, have no context of how bad it was in the past, lack coping skills, and are completely unhinged.

Both Truman and FDR's actions against Japan and Japanese Americans were in response to an act of war committed by Japan. You can disagree with the necessity of these actions in hindsight but the American people in the 1940s had a valid reason to fear the Japanese and a valid reason for why the war in the Pacific needed to be ended (Japan refused to give up and the only alternative to the A-bombs was putting American troops on the ground on Japanese soil which would have led to as many deaths as the bombs caused).

I don't view Trump as a specific threat to the American people but his arrogance and lack of integrity makes him a very poor leader and it's human nature for people to be uncomfortable when their leader is a very poor leader. What happened between the US and Japan 80 years ago does not relate whatsoever.

And THIS is a perfectly reasonable answer. You think he is a poor leader, a bad person, but not a threat to the American people. And that's OK! I think that's all many folks on this thread are pointing out. Disliking a president, thinking they are bad at their job and working towards electing a new one is a normal response towards a disappointing outcome. "Preparing for the coming storm," trying to secure passports, hide money, rethink having a family, etc. is an abnormal, chicken little response. Figure out why you lost, what you misread about the governing majority and how you can convince people that your side is righteous. And hot tip for some other posters on here, it's not writing off everyone who isn't as tuned up as you as a "deranged MAGA moron."

Thank you.

+1000
I'm just blown away by some of the truly unhinged posts here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We were going to start trying for kids this year but now have decided not to have them. I truly hate this man. He is ruining my life.

If you weren't scared off from having children a few months ago, what with constant war in the Middle East, ever greater wealth inequality, climate change, pandemics, environmental disasters, Russia, Iran, North Korea, etcetera, the last two weeks really shouldn't be making this much of a difference. Obviously a part of you doesn't want to have children, even if you can't acknowledge it. I say this kindly, as someone who spent a decade, and close to a million dollars, trying to conceive, ultimately unsuccessfully. It is very hard for women to admit to themselves, and to others, that they don't want children, or even that they're ambivalent about it. Many women, like me, were/are able to lie to themselves, and to others, by pointing to how hard they tried. You don't even have to pretend to try, you can just blame Trump. I know you can't admit this now, but with time, therapy and maybe some pets, you'll figure it out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We were going to start trying for kids this year but now have decided not to have them. I truly hate this man. He is ruining my life.

If you weren't scared off from having children a few months ago, what with constant war in the Middle East, ever greater wealth inequality, climate change, pandemics, environmental disasters, Russia, Iran, North Korea, etcetera, the last two weeks really shouldn't be making this much of a difference. Obviously a part of you doesn't want to have children, even if you can't acknowledge it. I say this kindly, as someone who spent a decade, and close to a million dollars, trying to conceive, ultimately unsuccessfully. It is very hard for women to admit to themselves, and to others, that they don't want children, or even that they're ambivalent about it. Many women, like me, were/are able to lie to themselves, and to others, by pointing to how hard they tried. You don't even have to pretend to try, you can just blame Trump. I know you can't admit this now, but with time, therapy and maybe some pets, you'll figure it out.

That's pretty unhinged. Pretty sure the poster can decide for herself her reasons for either wanting or not wanting to have a child.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess I'm curious how would you have prepared your children for the nuclear carnage of the Truman era?

...The witch hunts of the Eisenhower era?
...The brutal and multiple assassinations of elected leaders and the threat of nuclear apocalypse in the Kennedy era?
...The bloody quagmire of the LBJ era?
...The undermining of public trust in the Nixon era?
...The utter malaise of the Carter era?
...The pure greed of the Reagan era?

I could go on.

What is it exactly that you expect from this imperfect country, and what exactly makes you special in this particular period of American upheaval? Nothing. raise your kids accordingly, and with a strong compass, and life will go on.

If you don't see the unique threat Trump poses to the American way of life you are beyond help.

FDR put people in internment camps and Truman killed 200,000 civilians with a nuclear bomb. What were you taught in school? You are historically illiterate, have no context of how bad it was in the past, lack coping skills, and are completely unhinged.

Both Truman and FDR's actions against Japan and Japanese Americans were in response to an act of war committed by Japan. You can disagree with the necessity of these actions in hindsight but the American people in the 1940s had a valid reason to fear the Japanese and a valid reason for why the war in the Pacific needed to be ended (Japan refused to give up and the only alternative to the A-bombs was putting American troops on the ground on Japanese soil which would have led to as many deaths as the bombs caused).

I don't view Trump as a specific threat to the American people but his arrogance and lack of integrity makes him a very poor leader and it's human nature for people to be uncomfortable when their leader is a very poor leader. What happened between the US and Japan 80 years ago does not relate whatsoever.

And THIS is a perfectly reasonable answer. You think he is a poor leader, a bad person, but not a threat to the American people. And that's OK! I think that's all many folks on this thread are pointing out. Disliking a president, thinking they are bad at their job and working towards electing a new one is a normal response towards a disappointing outcome. "Preparing for the coming storm," trying to secure passports, hide money, rethink having a family, etc. is an abnormal, chicken little response. Figure out why you lost, what you misread about the governing majority and how you can convince people that your side is righteous. And hot tip for some other posters on here, it's not writing off everyone who isn't as tuned up as you as a "deranged MAGA moron."

Go ahead and have lots and lots and lots and lots of babies if you choose. There is nothing wrong with someone taking a cold hard look at.......climate change, economic decline, country starting to resemble an oligarchy, lack of affordable housing, lack of good health insurance and healthcare options for your family, lack of respect for health and science, lack of respect for women, decline of basic rights for women, increasing dangers from pregnancy, and on and on and on...and deciding you know what I don't know that I'm going to have a child right now. This is not a country that is serious about doing anything about any of these issues.

I hear you, the world is a dangerous place, and all of the issues you lay out save for the end of Roe (which really just depends on the state you live in) were issues before Trump, and they will be issues after him. I take issue with folks saying they have made the decision to not have babies after witnessing the last two weeks. I mean. go ahead, don't bring kids into an uncertain world, but to explicitly blame Trump for that decision is absurd.

Trump? He is a scummy real estate developer from Queens. The issue is that this country elected him president and that is depressing as hell.

Well you have to screw over the libs I guess. It is worth it to screw over the whole country in the process.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess I'm curious how would you have prepared your children for the nuclear carnage of the Truman era?

...The witch hunts of the Eisenhower era?
...The brutal and multiple assassinations of elected leaders and the threat of nuclear apocalypse in the Kennedy era?
...The bloody quagmire of the LBJ era?
...The undermining of public trust in the Nixon era?
...The utter malaise of the Carter era?
...The pure greed of the Reagan era?

I could go on.

What is it exactly that you expect from this imperfect country, and what exactly makes you special in this particular period of American upheaval? Nothing. raise your kids accordingly, and with a strong compass, and life will go on.

If you don't see the unique threat Trump poses to the American way of life you are beyond help.

FDR put people in internment camps and Truman killed 200,000 civilians with a nuclear bomb. What were you taught in school? You are historically illiterate, have no context of how bad it was in the past, lack coping skills, and are completely unhinged.

You reference these things as if they were problematic, yet you have no problem with Trump doing all of them again plus more?

Someone's unhinged, but it's not who you think...

Trump dropped a nuke to intentionally kill 200,000 civilians and put American citizens in a detention camp? Please provide a link. What are you even talking about…

He didn’t even drone American citizens or invent putting migrant kids in cages, but you don’t want to have that conversation. Maybe it’s a good place to start however because a lot of people on this thread seem to think that American history began in the 21st Century and have literally no clue about anything that happened more than 25 years ago.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We were going to start trying for kids this year but now have decided not to have them. I truly hate this man. He is ruining my life.

If you weren't scared off from having children a few months ago, what with constant war in the Middle East, ever greater wealth inequality, climate change, pandemics, environmental disasters, Russia, Iran, North Korea, etcetera, the last two weeks really shouldn't be making this much of a difference. Obviously a part of you doesn't want to have children, even if you can't acknowledge it. I say this kindly, as someone who spent a decade, and close to a million dollars, trying to conceive, ultimately unsuccessfully. It is very hard for women to admit to themselves, and to others, that they don't want children, or even that they're ambivalent about it. Many women, like me, were/are able to lie to themselves, and to others, by pointing to how hard they tried. You don't even have to pretend to try, you can just blame Trump. I know you can't admit this now, but with time, therapy and maybe some pets, you'll figure it out.

That's pretty unhinged. Pretty sure the poster can decide for herself her reasons for either wanting or not wanting to have a child.

If she really wanted children on January 19th, she'd still want them now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess I'm curious how would you have prepared your children for the nuclear carnage of the Truman era?

...The witch hunts of the Eisenhower era?
...The brutal and multiple assassinations of elected leaders and the threat of nuclear apocalypse in the Kennedy era?
...The bloody quagmire of the LBJ era?
...The undermining of public trust in the Nixon era?
...The utter malaise of the Carter era?
...The pure greed of the Reagan era?

I could go on.

What is it exactly that you expect from this imperfect country, and what exactly makes you special in this particular period of American upheaval? Nothing. raise your kids accordingly, and with a strong compass, and life will go on.

If you don't see the unique threat Trump poses to the American way of life you are beyond help.

FDR put people in internment camps and Truman killed 200,000 civilians with a nuclear bomb. What were you taught in school? You are historically illiterate, have no context of how bad it was in the past, lack coping skills, and are completely unhinged.

You reference these things as if they were problematic, yet you have no problem with Trump doing all of them again plus more?

Someone's unhinged, but it's not who you think...

Trump dropped a nuke to intentionally kill 200,000 civilians and put American citizens in a detention camp? Please provide a link. What are you even talking about…

He didn’t even drone American citizens or invent putting migrant kids in cages, but you don’t want to have that conversation. Maybe it’s a good place to start however because a lot of people on this thread seem to think that American history began in the 21st Century and have literally no clue about anything that happened more than 25 years ago.

Rounding up migrants and putting them in detention camps. Potentially using the United States military to do so is so screwed up. Things like should stay in the past and yet here we are.

[Anonymous]

If you have boys, be aware that neo-nazis are trying to recruit them online.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We were going to start trying for kids this year but now have decided not to have them. I truly hate this man. He is ruining my life.

If you weren't scared off from having children a few months ago, what with constant war in the Middle East, ever greater wealth inequality, climate change, pandemics, environmental disasters, Russia, Iran, North Korea, etcetera, the last two weeks really shouldn't be making this much of a difference. Obviously a part of you doesn't want to have children, even if you can't acknowledge it. I say this kindly, as someone who spent a decade, and close to a million dollars, trying to conceive, ultimately unsuccessfully. It is very hard for women to admit to themselves, and to others, that they don't want children, or even that they're ambivalent about it. Many women, like me, were/are able to lie to themselves, and to others, by pointing to how hard they tried. You don't even have to pretend to try, you can just blame Trump. I know you can't admit this now, but with time, therapy and maybe some pets, you'll figure it out.

That's pretty unhinged. Pretty sure the poster can decide for herself her reasons for either wanting or not wanting to have a child.

If she really wanted children on January 19th, she'd still want them now.

Apparently not.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Plan B expires. So do pregnancy tests. Maybe just move to a place where politics isn't the end-all-be-all guiding force of your life, and you and your kids will be happier?

I can promise you that in most places in the country, NO ONE is thinking about or caring about the changes happening. They don't think about politics at all. And if they do, they hear about wasteful government bureaucracy being dismantled in Washington and think, "good," then go about their lives.

They don't care that malaria care is being cut in Uganda. They are happy that their state and local school district will have more control over what is taught. They voted for a guy who said he would install judges to overturn Roe v. Wade, and they got what they asked for.

You might not agree with these choices, but they aren't any less American than you are. It's called a correction. The pendulum swung too far in one direction, and now it is swinging back. I don't necessarily agree with all of it, but I also haven't wrapped myself in tinfoil awaiting Armageddon. That is my recommendation.

Look, I am a right-leaning independent who voted for Trump in 2016. What is currently happening is terrifying because it is ILLEGAL. The president has no authority to close an agency or stop allocated money from reaching its target. These are under the purview of Congress. This is basic 7th grade civics division of branches stuff. And Musk has no security clearance or authority to do most of what he’s doing. It’s not about reducing waste and spending. It’s about trampling the constitution and compromising national security.

I appreciate the thoughtful response, and I think you and I have a different understanding of the branches of government. Yes, Congress funds federal agencies, but they sit under the purview of the Administration -- which is led by the president.

I'm not sure if it is illegal to shutter the DOE, or USAID. I genuinely don't know, but it sounds like any president would be within his rights to take this kind of action. As for Musk, he was appointed by the president, he has a security clearance OF COURSE given his national defense ties, and so yes, he does have the authority to do what he's doing, all at the pleasure of the president. Again, folks might not like it, but the "No one elected Elon Musk" rally seemed so ridiculously misguided it could almost make you laugh. Every single person who works at the White House in charge of crafting policy and priorities is unelected but for two people. That doesn't make their work illegal.

It "sounds like"? No. You are wrong. We are supposed to have three CO-EQUAL branches of government. The President cannot reverse enacted legislation on a whim.

So presumably you would be OK if the Republican-led House and Senate granted the president reorganization authority (which they would?)

"Presidential reorganization authority is a term used to refer to a major statutory power that has sometimes been temporarily extended by the United States Congress to the President of the United States. It permits the president to divide, consolidate, abolish, or create agencies of the U.S. federal government by presidential directive, subject to limited legislative oversight.[1] First granted in 1932, presidential reorganization authority has been extended to nine presidents on 16 separate occasions. As of 2024, it was most recently granted to Ronald Reagan."

But wouldn’t they only do this if they don’t think there will be another election? Because they wouldn’t like or want a Dem president doing this. Surely, they don’t want this precedent.