Palisades Fire - Los Angeles

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Anonymous wrote:These homes start at $2.5M and go up rapidly from there. I bet most of these folks were self-insured.

This represents a huge, extremely wealthy chunk of the Los Angeles county tax base. Lots of families with young kids. It's as if a wild fire completely destroyed CCMD and adjacent neighborhoods in upper NW DC.

This disaster will upend Los Angeles's budget - lots of costs to clean up but also lots of these people will move away. It will only be partially rebuilt, likely with multi-family housing. The entire area will be rebuilt much differently.

Californian here. I think it’s entirely possible that the state turns deep red politically. There is already a lot of anger at the left simmering under the surface.

Indeed, the waste of resources is jaw dropping.

With the budget surplus they could have been burying power lines, but I guess there were more important priorities to squander the money.

What state buries high transmission lines? These fires aren't caused by residential lines, they're cause by long distance lines

Untrimmed trees are a source of fires. It's on the power company to maintain the trees. Trees falling on power lines are a huge problem.

This is about the dried out brush on the forest floor that catches fire easily, and needs to be better managed. This is not about the power company, it's about California's failed government.

It's probably both. Multiple fires burning, we will have to say if they can pinpoint the cause of each. They usually do, just takes time. 85% of fires are caused by humans.

Fires have been a problem in California for thousands of years. Even the native Americans used to do controlled burns!

Too bad Democrats don’t feel like doing controlled burns, or even clearing any of the fallen dead trees.

Can you just stop. You and other posters keep trying to turn a natural disaster into a political debate. I’m willing to bet the the number of democrats and republicans that would like their homes to not burn down from a wild fire are very very close.

Why do you think Karen Bass CUT 17.6 MILLION from their fire fighting fund?
Democrats are beyond stupid.

MAYBE you should look into stuff more and not just throw out stuff with no context. Yes, the budget was reduced by that much. The entire budget is around 820 million. So this represents a small fraction of that (original budget was 837M) and did not cut into the budget for fire fighter hiring. But sure keep ranting.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/public-safety-and-emergencies/fire-and-rescue/fact-check-did-los-angeles-cut-fire-department-funding-by-17-6m/ar-AA1xbqiq?ocid=BingNewsSerp

Let me guess, your home isn’t burning.

No, not my home but a place I love dearly. But if you can prove that the $17 m would have stopped the fire go ahead.

This realy isn't any one person of parties fault. I am not sure why we just have to blame people.

This is a historic windstorm. It's like blaming the Gulf states for hurricane devastation.

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I have two friends that lost their home last night and three employees at DH's business. My dentist and kid's ortho has lost their office building. Our pediatrician lost her home. My niece and nephew's elementary school burned down. Those are only the ones I know about. Devastating.

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Anonymous wrote:Adam Brody and Leighton Meester lost their home. I guess I don't worry too much about wealthy celebrities who can always rebuild or buy elsewhere, but it must be a little traumatizing to lose your home. Hope people are being evacuated safely, and the regular folks will be able to recover from the massive financial hit.

"A little traumatizing"? It's HUGELY traumatizing, no matter who you are or how much money you have!!

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is the pits. I am sitting here looking at the roof from my neighbor's house strewn all over my back yard and front drive and roof and all the trees down in the neighborhood and the enormous smoke cloud approaching from Altadena.

And you guys as usual are talking about politics.

What a bunch of enormous arses. ARSES.

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Your neighborhood is burning and you’re on DCUM. That’s odd.

NP I don't think it's odd at all. When a natural disaster hits my area or is impending and there's nothing left to do but wait and see, not much to do but worry and be online.

But why would you want to be online on a regional forum thousands of miles away where most residents are unfamiliar with your plight?

Jeff has said before that a significant percentage of posters are not from DC. You are being a jerk.

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Anonymous wrote:These homes start at $2.5M and go up rapidly from there. I bet most of these folks were self-insured.

This represents a huge, extremely wealthy chunk of the Los Angeles county tax base. Lots of families with young kids. It's as if a wild fire completely destroyed CCMD and adjacent neighborhoods in upper NW DC.


This disaster will upend Los Angeles's budget - lots of costs to clean up but also lots of these people will move away. It will only be partially rebuilt, likely with multi-family housing. The entire area will be rebuilt much differently.

Californian here. I think it’s entirely possible that the state turns deep red politically. There is already a lot of anger at the left simmering under the surface.

Indeed, the waste of resources is jaw dropping.

With the budget surplus they could have been burying power lines, but I guess there were more important priorities to squander the money.

What state buries high transmission lines? These fires aren't caused by residential lines, they're cause by long distance lines

Untrimmed trees are a source of fires. It's on the power company to maintain the trees. Trees falling on power lines are a huge problem.

This is about the dried out brush on the forest floor that catches fire easily, and needs to be better managed. This is not about the power company, it's about California's failed government.

It's probably both. Multiple fires burning, we will have to say if they can pinpoint the cause of each. They usually do, just takes time. 85% of fires are caused by humans.

Fires have been a problem in California for thousands of years. Even the native Americans used to do controlled burns!

Too bad Democrats don’t feel like doing controlled burns, or even clearing any of the fallen dead trees.

Once again, controlled burns have never stopped. Some funding was cut during the previous trump admin, but the burns have continued. Unfortunately this started as a small fire in a pac palisades back yard. You can’t do a controlled burn in a tightly packed suburban/semi-urban yard. That’s like saying they should do controlled burns around Bethesda row

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Places like Palisades High--this building burned down. It's not in a rural area, it's not wilderness; it's a suburban, densely buult and populated area. The winds have been something like 80 miles per hour! That is the reason for the quick spread of the fires.

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Anonymous wrote:I have two friends that lost their home last night and three employees at DH's business. My dentist and kid's ortho has lost their office building. Our pediatrician lost her home. My niece and nephew's elementary school burned down. Those are only the ones I know about. Devastating.

I'm so sorry.

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Anonymous wrote:These homes start at $2.5M and go up rapidly from there. I bet most of these folks were self-insured.

This represents a huge, extremely wealthy chunk of the Los Angeles county tax base. Lots of families with young kids. It's as if a wild fire completely destroyed CCMD and adjacent neighborhoods in upper NW DC.


This disaster will upend Los Angeles's budget - lots of costs to clean up but also lots of these people will move away. It will only be partially rebuilt, likely with multi-family housing. The entire area will be rebuilt much differently.

Californian here. I think it’s entirely possible that the state turns deep red politically. There is already a lot of anger at the left simmering under the surface.

Indeed, the waste of resources is jaw dropping.

With the budget surplus they could have been burying power lines, but I guess there were more important priorities to squander the money.

What state buries high transmission lines? These fires aren't caused by residential lines, they're cause by long distance lines

Untrimmed trees are a source of fires. It's on the power company to maintain the trees. Trees falling on power lines are a huge problem.

This is about the dried out brush on the forest floor that catches fire easily, and needs to be better managed. This is not about the power company, it's about California's failed government.

It's probably both. Multiple fires burning, we will have to say if they can pinpoint the cause of each. They usually do, just takes time. 85% of fires are caused by humans.

Fires have been a problem in California for thousands of years. Even the native Americans used to do controlled burns!

Too bad Democrats don’t feel like doing controlled burns, or even clearing any of the fallen dead trees.

Once again, controlled burns have never stopped. Some funding was cut during the previous trump admin, but the burns have continued. Unfortunately this started as a small fire in a pac palisades back yard. You can’t do a controlled burn in a tightly packed suburban/semi-urban yard. That’s like saying they should do controlled burns around Bethesda row

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Places like Palisades High--this building burned down. It's not in a rural area, it's not wilderness; it's a suburban, densely buult and populated area. The winds have been something like 80 miles per hour! That is the reason for the quick spread of the fires.

I'm seeing the Palisades one started as a backyard fire. It's so nonsensical to see so much devastation over this + high winds.

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Anonymous wrote:Adam Brody and Leighton Meester lost their home. I guess I don't worry too much about wealthy celebrities who can always rebuild or buy elsewhere, but it must be a little traumatizing to lose your home. Hope people are being evacuated safely, and the regular folks will be able to recover from the massive financial hit.

"A little traumatizing"? It's HUGELY traumatizing, no matter who you are or how much money you have!!

If I lived there, I’d start learning how weather manipulation works. Think Maui. Do your own research if you seriously care. Learn how other countries mitigate the risk. Check out there fire chiefs, and their qualifications.

It’s your job to educate yourself.

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Anonymous wrote:If the hydrants are dry and water bombing won't work due to winds (although I did see them scooping from the ocean yesterday), can they pump in water from the ocean? I mean it seems kind of wild that there is a lack of water when there is a literal ocean across the street. Maybe they don't have the tech now but seems like investing in some sort of emergency pump system directly from the ocean for firefighting might be something worth looking into.

At the very least I imagine they should be able to fill tanker trucks with ocean water?

I don't think you comprehend how little water fire trucks actually hold when you consider fires of this scope. It's like pissing on your house. It isn't going to do any good.

They do pump water from the ocean and take it up in planes to dump on fires but the wind has been so strong that they can't safely fly and the water would evaporate in the wind. There is not a lot to do until the wind dies down significantly.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a scary fire in a dense area, but I understand Getty Villa is not on fire. Some trees on the property caught, is all.

Perhaps they should have taken down the overgrowth of trees?

Ding ding ding!

It's a direct result of the state's "environmental"policies. I guess wildfires are good for global warming.

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Anonymous wrote:Adam Brody and Leighton Meester lost their home. I guess I don't worry too much about wealthy celebrities who can always rebuild or buy elsewhere, but it must be a little traumatizing to lose your home. Hope people are being evacuated safely, and the regular folks will be able to recover from the massive financial hit.

"A little traumatizing"? It's HUGELY traumatizing, no matter who you are or how much money you have!!

If I lived there, I’d start learning how weather manipulation works. Think Maui. Do your own research if you seriously care. Learn how other countries mitigate the risk. Check out there fire chiefs, and their qualifications.

It’s your job to educate yourself.

It is insane how many posters in this thread are jumping at the opportunity to be absolute jerks to Californians. Such an awful look.

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Anonymous wrote:Adam Brody and Leighton Meester lost their home. I guess I don't worry too much about wealthy celebrities who can always rebuild or buy elsewhere, but it must be a little traumatizing to lose your home. Hope people are being evacuated safely, and the regular folks will be able to recover from the massive financial hit.

"A little traumatizing"? It's HUGELY traumatizing, no matter who you are or how much money you have!!

If I lived there, I’d start learning how weather manipulation works. Think Maui. Do your own research if you seriously care. Learn how other countries mitigate the risk. Check out there fire chiefs, and their qualifications.

It’s your job to educate yourself.

What does this mean exactly? You cannot be upset because you didn't pick the optimal fire chief area? It's so stupid. We all live with some amount of risk of some kind and cannot switch homes constantly depending on who gets appointment as fire chief, chief of police...

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Anonymous wrote:Can’t imagine staying in CA, unless I was simply too poor to get the hell out.

Same. It's awful there.

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Anonymous wrote:Adam Brody and Leighton Meester lost their home. I guess I don't worry too much about wealthy celebrities who can always rebuild or buy elsewhere, but it must be a little traumatizing to lose your home. Hope people are being evacuated safely, and the regular folks will be able to recover from the massive financial hit.

Who are they?

Crawl out from under your rock

I'm genuinely sorry these people lost their homes. But they are not as famous as you think they are.

NP. Between The OC & Gossip Girl, they're pretty damn famous. But also, Nobody Wants This got a lot of attention this year and Adam got nominated for a Golden Globe at the ceremony that just happened. Between their historic fame and his hot at the moment fame, it is pretty surprising you don't know who they are.