Palisades Fire - Los Angeles

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Anonymous wrote:These homes start at $2.5M and go up rapidly from there. I bet most of these folks were self-insured.

This represents a huge, extremely wealthy chunk of the Los Angeles county tax base. Lots of families with young kids. It's as if a wild fire completely destroyed CCMD and adjacent neighborhoods in upper NW DC.

This disaster will upend Los Angeles's budget - lots of costs to clean up but also lots of these people will move away. It will only be partially rebuilt, likely with multi-family housing. The entire area will be rebuilt much differently.

Californian here. I think it’s entirely possible that the state turns deep red politically. There is already a lot of anger at the left simmering under the surface.

Indeed, the waste of resources is jaw dropping.

With the budget surplus they could have been burying power lines, but I guess there were more important priorities to squander the money.

What state buries high transmission lines? These fires aren't caused by residential lines, they're cause by long distance lines

Untrimmed trees are a source of fires. It's on the power company to maintain the trees. Trees falling on power lines are a huge problem.

This is about the dried out brush on the forest floor that catches fire easily, and needs to be better managed. This is not about the power company, it's about California's failed government.

It's probably both. Multiple fires burning, we will have to say if they can pinpoint the cause of each. They usually do, just takes time. 85% of fires are caused by humans.

Fires have been a problem in California for thousands of years. Even the native Americans used to do controlled burns!

Too bad Democrats don’t feel like doing controlled burns, or even clearing any of the fallen dead trees.

Can you just stop. You and other posters keep trying to turn a natural disaster into a political debate. I’m willing to bet the the number of democrats and republicans that would like their homes to not burn down from a wild fire are very very close.

Why do you think Karen Bass CUT 17.6 MILLION from their fire fighting fund?
Democrats are beyond stupid.

MAYBE you should look into stuff more and not just throw out stuff with no context. Yes, the budget was reduced by that much. The entire budget is around 820 million. So this represents a small fraction of that (original budget was 837M) and did not cut into the budget for fire fighter hiring. But sure keep ranting.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/public-safety-and-emergencies/fire-and-rescue/fact-check-did-los-angeles-cut-fire-department-funding-by-17-6m/ar-AA1xbqiq?ocid=BingNewsSerp

Let me guess, your home isn’t burning.

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Anonymous wrote:These homes start at $2.5M and go up rapidly from there. I bet most of these folks were self-insured.

This represents a huge, extremely wealthy chunk of the Los Angeles county tax base. Lots of families with young kids. It's as if a wild fire completely destroyed CCMD and adjacent neighborhoods in upper NW DC.

This disaster will upend Los Angeles's budget - lots of costs to clean up but also lots of these people will move away. It will only be partially rebuilt, likely with multi-family housing. The entire area will be rebuilt much differently.

Californian here. I think it’s entirely possible that the state turns deep red politically. There is already a lot of anger at the left simmering under the surface.

Indeed, the waste of resources is jaw dropping.

With the budget surplus they could have been burying power lines, but I guess there were more important priorities to squander the money.

What state buries high transmission lines? These fires aren't caused by residential lines, they're cause by long distance lines

Untrimmed trees are a source of fires. It's on the power company to maintain the trees. Trees falling on power lines are a huge problem.

This is about the dried out brush on the forest floor that catches fire easily, and needs to be better managed. This is not about the power company, it's about California's failed government.

It's probably both. Multiple fires burning, we will have to say if they can pinpoint the cause of each. They usually do, just takes time. 85% of fires are caused by humans.

Fires have been a problem in California for thousands of years. Even the native Americans used to do controlled burns!

Too bad Democrats don’t feel like doing controlled burns, or even clearing any of the fallen dead trees.

Can you just stop. You and other posters keep trying to turn a natural disaster into a political debate. I’m willing to bet the the number of democrats and republicans that would like their homes to not burn down from a wild fire are very very close.

Why do you think Karen Bass CUT 17.6 MILLION from their fire fighting fund?
Democrats are beyond stupid.

MAYBE you should look into stuff more and not just throw out stuff with no context. Yes, the budget was reduced by that much. The entire budget is around 820 million. So this represents a small fraction of that (original budget was 837M) and did not cut into the budget for fire fighter hiring. But sure keep ranting.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/public-safety-and-emergencies/fire-and-rescue/fact-check-did-los-angeles-cut-fire-department-funding-by-17-6m/ar-AA1xbqiq?ocid=BingNewsSerp

The money was moved from LAFD to give more money to the LAPD for crime fighting. Because people were up in arms about crime.

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Can’t imagine staying in CA, unless I was simply too poor to get the hell out.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is the pits. I am sitting here looking at the roof from my neighbor's house strewn all over my back yard and front drive and roof and all the trees down in the neighborhood and the enormous smoke cloud approaching from Altadena.

And you guys as usual are talking about politics.

What a bunch of enormous arses. ARSES.

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Your neighborhood is burning and you’re on DCUM. That’s odd.

NP I don't think it's odd at all. When a natural disaster hits my area or is impending and there's nothing left to do but wait and see, not much to do but worry and be online.

But why would you want to be online on a regional forum thousands of miles away where most residents are unfamiliar with your plight?

Jeff has said before that a significant percentage of posters are not from DC. You are being a jerk.

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Anonymous wrote:Why doesn’t the wind in Europe result in massive wild fires?

Europe has wild fires every year. I was in Greece this past August when Athens was dealing with wildfires and in Portugal the year before when they had widespread wildfires.

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Anonymous wrote:Why doesn’t the wind in Europe result in massive wild fires?

Europe has wild fires every year. I was in Greece this past August when Athens was dealing with wildfires and in Portugal the year before when they had widespread wildfires.

How many people died?

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Anonymous wrote:Can’t imagine staying in CA, unless I was simply too poor to get the hell out.

It's the most beautiful state (aside from perhaps Utah), so it's not surprising people want to live with great temps, the beach, the mountains, the desert. I'd move there tomorrow if I could afford it!

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Anonymous wrote:If the hydrants are dry and water bombing won't work due to winds (although I did see them scooping from the ocean yesterday), can they pump in water from the ocean? I mean it seems kind of wild that there is a lack of water when there is a literal ocean across the street. Maybe they don't have the tech now but seems like investing in some sort of emergency pump system directly from the ocean for firefighting might be something worth looking into.

At the very least I imagine they should be able to fill tanker trucks with ocean water?

I live on the water. Go to a fire station in a city on the water and ask them about pumping water from the ocean. I'm not going to get into it but suffice to say it's not as easy as it sounds.

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Anonymous wrote:Can’t imagine staying in CA, unless I was simply too poor to get the hell out.

Good. We don't need more people.

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Has this thread been colonized with people who are non-functional? Are you all incapable of basic skills like “using Google”?

The information about the deadly wildfires in Europe is easily available with a very, very basic Google search.

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Anonymous wrote:Can’t imagine staying in CA, unless I was simply too poor to get the hell out.

Enjoy Oklahoma

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Anonymous wrote:These homes start at $2.5M and go up rapidly from there. I bet most of these folks were self-insured.

This represents a huge, extremely wealthy chunk of the Los Angeles county tax base. Lots of families with young kids. It's as if a wild fire completely destroyed CCMD and adjacent neighborhoods in upper NW DC.

This disaster will upend Los Angeles's budget - lots of costs to clean up but also lots of these people will move away. It will only be partially rebuilt, likely with multi-family housing. The entire area will be rebuilt much differently.

Californian here. I think it’s entirely possible that the state turns deep red politically. There is already a lot of anger at the left simmering under the surface.

Indeed, the waste of resources is jaw dropping.

With the budget surplus they could have been burying power lines, but I guess there were more important priorities to squander the money.

What state buries high transmission lines? These fires aren't caused by residential lines, they're cause by long distance lines

Untrimmed trees are a source of fires. It's on the power company to maintain the trees. Trees falling on power lines are a huge problem.

This is about the dried out brush on the forest floor that catches fire easily, and needs to be better managed. This is not about the power company, it's about California's failed government.

It's probably both. Multiple fires burning, we will have to say if they can pinpoint the cause of each. They usually do, just takes time. 85% of fires are caused by humans.

Fires have been a problem in California for thousands of years. Even the native Americans used to do controlled burns!

Too bad Democrats don’t feel like doing controlled burns, or even clearing any of the fallen dead trees.

Can you just stop. You and other posters keep trying to turn a natural disaster into a political debate. I’m willing to bet the the number of democrats and republicans that would like their homes to not burn down from a wild fire are very very close.

Why do you think Karen Bass CUT 17.6 MILLION from their fire fighting fund?
Democrats are beyond stupid.

MAYBE you should look into stuff more and not just throw out stuff with no context. Yes, the budget was reduced by that much. The entire budget is around 820 million. So this represents a small fraction of that (original budget was 837M) and did not cut into the budget for fire fighter hiring. But sure keep ranting.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/public-safety-and-emergencies/fire-and-rescue/fact-check-did-los-angeles-cut-fire-department-funding-by-17-6m/ar-AA1xbqiq?ocid=BingNewsSerp

Let me guess, your home isn’t burning.

No, not my home but a place I love dearly. But if you can prove that the $17 m would have stopped the fire go ahead.

This realy isn't any one person of parties fault. I am not sure why we just have to blame people.

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Anonymous wrote:If the hydrants are dry and water bombing won't work due to winds (although I did see them scooping from the ocean yesterday), can they pump in water from the ocean? I mean it seems kind of wild that there is a lack of water when there is a literal ocean across the street. Maybe they don't have the tech now but seems like investing in some sort of emergency pump system directly from the ocean for firefighting might be something worth looking into.

At the very least I imagine they should be able to fill tanker trucks with ocean water?

I don't think you comprehend how little water fire trucks actually hold when you consider fires of this scope. It's like pissing on your house. It isn't going to do any good.

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Anonymous wrote:Adam Brody and Leighton Meester lost their home. I guess I don't worry too much about wealthy celebrities who can always rebuild or buy elsewhere, but it must be a little traumatizing to lose your home. Hope people are being evacuated safely, and the regular folks will be able to recover from the massive financial hit.

Who are they?

Crawl out from under your rock

I'm genuinely sorry these people lost their homes. But they are not as famous as you think they are.

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Anonymous wrote:Can’t imagine staying in CA, unless I was simply too poor to get the hell out.

It's the most beautiful state (aside from perhaps Utah), so it's not surprising people want to live with great temps, the beach, the mountains, the desert. I'd move there tomorrow if I could afford it!

There's plenty of places without fire danger. I live near Century City. My friends live in San Diego and other beach cities. No one has been close to a fire.