APS Yondr Pouch: Opening at home questions

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Anonymous wrote:my kid has a fake one in the pouch. This experiment cost us 130K.

You’re such a cool mom!!

So if your kid doesn’t use their phone all day, why do they bother with a fake one?

DP. Obviously in case of emergency/lockdown. That’s why we’ve considered this, too, and I’m sure many others are also doing it.

Yup my friend's kid was in a lockdown. Phones were required to be in lockers. School made kids leave without letting them get their phones. Kids had no way to contact parents to get home. It was a freakin nightmare.

I don't trust APS one bit not to do this again.

Kids don't HAVE to contact parents to get picked up. Schools will send out communications. Just won't be as fast and direct with your student as you prefer.

It's a sub-par solution to a problem that doesn't need to exist in the first place.

The bigger and more frequent problem is phones in the classroom; the lockdown which becomes school dismissal without access to the school — how often does that happen??? Most lockdowns resolve and return to normal schedule, what is going on at these schools that they throw their hands up and say “whatevs, go home”.

There are plenty of lockdowns -- two on our campus in the past three months -- usually due to some false alarm or outside situation. My school has not made assuring parents that everything is fine a priority. You get an email hours later and long after your kid has gotten in touch. For sure, you hear more reliably and sooner from your own kid. If you are perfectly happy to wait and wonder, have at it but stick to parenting your own kid. I'm not giving up access to my kid to appease the zealous anti-screeners. Putting phones away during instructional time does not necessitate this overbroad and unduly expensive solution.

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Anonymous wrote:Fun story: at back to school night at one of the non-Yondr APS schools, a teacher had a big orange crate at the front of the class with a sign "CELL PHONES HERE," his $5 solution to kids paying attention in his class and a policy he has had in place for years. One of the parents asked whether a Yondr pouch would be a better solution than the orange crate. He hedged a little, presumably not wanting to call our local school systems idiots. But then he gave his answer: the orange crate does the job and has for years. If it ain't broke.

too bad APS isn't listening to actual teachers, just the (few loud voices) of anti screen crazy parents!!!

Most teachers support no phones, and he probably doesn’t care either way. He didn’t hedge because he didn’t want to make them look bad, he just doesn’t care as long as screens are away.

most teachers? hahahaha

A strong majority, 76%? Is that about the same as most? Is there a better word, maybe preponderance?


https://teachinglicense.study.com/featured-insights/mobile-bans-increase-engagement-and-learning-time.html

That’s in favor of phones away in classes, not locked in stupid pouches all day

Right. They won’t care how the phones are away. My mom was a teacher. The poaches mean they don’t have to spend any time thinking about phones all day, so how is that at least not neutral.?

I personally want to have purpose build cell phone lockers like the private schools use. Times locks

you're delusional if you think the pouches mean they don't have to spend any time thinking about phones all day. hahahahah.

But it’s far simpler. If they find someone with a phone, it goes in their locked poach, and won’t be an issue the rest of the day. If they have a decoy phone it will be confiscated. It greatly simplifies and reduces teacher phone monitoring.

You laugh, so what is the joke here? Are you not disappointed that teachers can’t teach your children and focus on that rather than distractions like phones?

I would like to initiate a vote of no confidence concerning all your posts until you learn to spell. You poach an egg to make, for example, Eggs Benedict, a far superior experience to what Yondr is selling. If you had mispelled it once, you'd get a pass but you have mispelled it every time you've posted. Yondr needs to hire better interns.

What can I say, I make a great poached egg and I’m posting at lunch time: I’m hungry.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:my kid has a fake one in the pouch. This experiment cost us 130K.

You’re such a cool mom!!

So if your kid doesn’t use their phone all day, why do they bother with a fake one?

DP. Obviously in case of emergency/lockdown. That’s why we’ve considered this, too, and I’m sure many others are also doing it.

Yup my friend's kid was in a lockdown. Phones were required to be in lockers. School made kids leave without letting them get their phones. Kids had no way to contact parents to get home. It was a freakin nightmare.

I don't trust APS one bit not to do this again.

Kids don't HAVE to contact parents to get picked up. Schools will send out communications. Just won't be as fast and direct with your student as you prefer.

It's a sub-par solution to a problem that doesn't need to exist in the first place.

The bigger and more frequent problem is phones in the classroom; the lockdown which becomes school dismissal without access to the school — how often does that happen??? Most lockdowns resolve and return to normal schedule, what is going on at these schools that they throw their hands up and say “whatevs, go home”.

There are plenty of lockdowns -- two on our campus in the past three months -- usually due to some false alarm or outside situation. My school has not made assuring parents that everything is fine a priority. You get an email hours later and long after your kid has gotten in touch. For sure, you hear more reliably and sooner from your own kid. If you are perfectly happy to wait and wonder, have at it but stick to parenting your own kid. I'm not giving up access to my kid to appease the zealous anti-screeners. Putting phones away during instructional time does not necessitate this overbroad and unduly expensive solution.

So you have had two lockdowns where the kid were released from school without given time to go their lockers since school started (which around here is 2 months ago). What district is this?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:my kid has a fake one in the pouch. This experiment cost us 130K.

You’re such a cool mom!!

So if your kid doesn’t use their phone all day, why do they bother with a fake one?

DP. Obviously in case of emergency/lockdown. That’s why we’ve considered this, too, and I’m sure many others are also doing it.

Yup my friend's kid was in a lockdown. Phones were required to be in lockers. School made kids leave without letting them get their phones. Kids had no way to contact parents to get home. It was a freakin nightmare.

I don't trust APS one bit not to do this again.

Kids don't HAVE to contact parents to get picked up. Schools will send out communications. Just won't be as fast and direct with your student as you prefer.

It's a sub-par solution to a problem that doesn't need to exist in the first place.

The bigger and more frequent problem is phones in the classroom; the lockdown which becomes school dismissal without access to the school — how often does that happen??? Most lockdowns resolve and return to normal schedule, what is going on at these schools that they throw their hands up and say “whatevs, go home”.

There are plenty of lockdowns -- two on our campus in the past three months -- usually due to some false alarm or outside situation. My school has not made assuring parents that everything is fine a priority. You get an email hours later and long after your kid has gotten in touch. For sure, you hear more reliably and sooner from your own kid. If you are perfectly happy to wait and wonder, have at it but stick to parenting your own kid. I'm not giving up access to my kid to appease the zealous anti-screeners. Putting phones away during instructional time does not necessitate this overbroad and unduly expensive solution.

How old are you? This level of control and paranoia is intense.

I would address the schools notification policy; when they initiate a lockdown an automated text goes out for our school. Our swim team manages this so I expect maybe you are just on a crummy school system? That is a pretty easy fix with maybe a new role for an admin in the front office.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:my kid has a fake one in the pouch. This experiment cost us 130K.

You’re such a cool mom!!

So if your kid doesn’t use their phone all day, why do they bother with a fake one?

DP. Obviously in case of emergency/lockdown. That’s why we’ve considered this, too, and I’m sure many others are also doing it.

Yup my friend's kid was in a lockdown. Phones were required to be in lockers. School made kids leave without letting them get their phones. Kids had no way to contact parents to get home. It was a freakin nightmare.

I don't trust APS one bit not to do this again.

It's your problem that you must know everything instantaneously. You're the one making your problem everyone else's. Not the other way around.

Kids don't HAVE to contact parents to get picked up. Schools will send out communications. Just won't be as fast and direct with your student as you prefer.

It's a sub-par solution to a problem that doesn't need to exist in the first place.

The bigger and more frequent problem is phones in the classroom; the lockdown which becomes school dismissal without access to the school — how often does that happen??? Most lockdowns resolve and return to normal schedule, what is going on at these schools that they throw their hands up and say “whatevs, go home”.

There are plenty of lockdowns -- two on our campus in the past three months -- usually due to some false alarm or outside situation. My school has not made assuring parents that everything is fine a priority. You get an email hours later and long after your kid has gotten in touch. For sure, you hear more reliably and sooner from your own kid. If you are perfectly happy to wait and wonder, have at it but stick to parenting your own kid. I'm not giving up access to my kid to appease the zealous anti-screeners. Putting phones away during instructional time does not necessitate this overbroad and unduly expensive solution.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:my kid has a fake one in the pouch. This experiment cost us 130K.

You’re such a cool mom!!

So if your kid doesn’t use their phone all day, why do they bother with a fake one?

DP. Obviously in case of emergency/lockdown. That’s why we’ve considered this, too, and I’m sure many others are also doing it.

Yup my friend's kid was in a lockdown. Phones were required to be in lockers. School made kids leave without letting them get their phones. Kids had no way to contact parents to get home. It was a freakin nightmare.

I don't trust APS one bit not to do this again.

Kids don't HAVE to contact parents to get picked up. Schools will send out communications. Just won't be as fast and direct with your student as you prefer.

It's a sub-par solution to a problem that doesn't need to exist in the first place.

The bigger and more frequent problem is phones in the classroom; the lockdown which becomes school dismissal without access to the school — how often does that happen??? Most lockdowns resolve and return to normal schedule, what is going on at these schools that they throw their hands up and say “whatevs, go home”.

There are plenty of lockdowns -- two on our campus in the past three months -- usually due to some false alarm or outside situation. My school has not made assuring parents that everything is fine a priority. You get an email hours later and long after your kid has gotten in touch. For sure, you hear more reliably and sooner from your own kid. If you are perfectly happy to wait and wonder, have at it but stick to parenting your own kid. I'm not giving up access to my kid to appease the zealous anti-screeners. Putting phones away during instructional time does not necessitate this overbroad and unduly expensive solution.

You know why the school doesn't notify you immediately? Because it's not a critical emergency. As you say yourself, "usually due to some false alarm or outside situation." There's no need to alert all the parents and cause unnecessary panic. But I'm glad you were able to hear right away from your student that there was nothing happening.

[Anonymous]

hahaha I can just imagine the bug out bags these people carry around with them as well!!!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:my kid has a fake one in the pouch. This experiment cost us 130K.

You’re such a cool mom!!

So if your kid doesn’t use their phone all day, why do they bother with a fake one?

DP. Obviously in case of emergency/lockdown. That’s why we’ve considered this, too, and I’m sure many others are also doing it.

Yup my friend's kid was in a lockdown. Phones were required to be in lockers. School made kids leave without letting them get their phones. Kids had no way to contact parents to get home. It was a freakin nightmare.

I don't trust APS one bit not to do this again.

Kids don't HAVE to contact parents to get picked up. Schools will send out communications. Just won't be as fast and direct with your student as you prefer.

I don’t think you understand. What do you mean they will? They did not. They just sent kids out of the building without a way to call parents or get home.

This isn’t a preference thing!!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Fun story: at back to school night at one of the non-Yondr APS schools, a teacher had a big orange crate at the front of the class with a sign "CELL PHONES HERE," his $5 solution to kids paying attention in his class and a policy he has had in place for years. One of the parents asked whether a Yondr pouch would be a better solution than the orange crate. He hedged a little, presumably not wanting to call our local school systems idiots. But then he gave his answer: the orange crate does the job and has for years. If it ain't broke.

too bad APS isn't listening to actual teachers, just the (few loud voices) of anti screen crazy parents!!!

Most teachers support no phones, and he probably doesn’t care either way. He didn’t hedge because he didn’t want to make them look bad, he just doesn’t care as long as screens are away.

most teachers? hahahaha

A strong majority, 76%? Is that about the same as most? Is there a better word, maybe preponderance?


https://teachinglicense.study.com/featured-insights/mobile-bans-increase-engagement-and-learning-time.html

That’s in favor of phones away in classes, not locked in stupid pouches all day

Right. They won’t care how the phones are away. My mom was a teacher. The poaches mean they don’t have to spend any time thinking about phones all day, so how is that at least not neutral.?

I personally want to have purpose build cell phone lockers like the private schools use. Times locks

you're delusional if you think the pouches mean they don't have to spend any time thinking about phones all day. hahahahah.

But it’s far simpler. If they find someone with a phone, it goes in their locked poach, and won’t be an issue the rest of the day. If they have a decoy phone it will be confiscated. It greatly simplifies and reduces teacher phone monitoring.

You laugh, so what is the joke here? Are you not disappointed that teachers can’t teach your children and focus on that rather than distractions like phones?

But this requires the teachers to intervene and police! Which is what people say the pouches would prevent.

[Anonymous]

My kids had a lockdown at Gunston last year or the year before. Most kids phones were in their lockers and kids were not allowed to go back to their lockers before going home. it was really not a big deal. Teachers and bus drivers and other adults lent kids their phones to call home and kids could also just take the bus home. it was a Friday and they opened the school the next morning for kids who wanted to get stuff from their lockers (including their phones).

Bottom line, kids not having access to their phones was fine. I would not want my kid distracted by their phone in a real emergency anyway.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:my kid has a fake one in the pouch. This experiment cost us 130K.

You’re such a cool mom!!

So if your kid doesn’t use their phone all day, why do they bother with a fake one?

DP. Obviously in case of emergency/lockdown. That’s why we’ve considered this, too, and I’m sure many others are also doing it.

Yup my friend's kid was in a lockdown. Phones were required to be in lockers. School made kids leave without letting them get their phones. Kids had no way to contact parents to get home. It was a freakin nightmare.

I don't trust APS one bit not to do this again.

Kids don't HAVE to contact parents to get picked up. Schools will send out communications. Just won't be as fast and direct with your student as you prefer.

I don’t think you understand. What do you mean they will? They did not. They just sent kids out of the building without a way to call parents or get home.

This isn’t a preference thing!!!

Name the school system, because we have lived in 3 DMV school districts, and all had group text messages for closures, lockdowns, and snow days.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Fun story: at back to school night at one of the non-Yondr APS schools, a teacher had a big orange crate at the front of the class with a sign "CELL PHONES HERE," his $5 solution to kids paying attention in his class and a policy he has had in place for years. One of the parents asked whether a Yondr pouch would be a better solution than the orange crate. He hedged a little, presumably not wanting to call our local school systems idiots. But then he gave his answer: the orange crate does the job and has for years. If it ain't broke.

too bad APS isn't listening to actual teachers, just the (few loud voices) of anti screen crazy parents!!!

Most teachers support no phones, and he probably doesn’t care either way. He didn’t hedge because he didn’t want to make them look bad, he just doesn’t care as long as screens are away.

most teachers? hahahaha

A strong majority, 76%? Is that about the same as most? Is there a better word, maybe preponderance?


https://teachinglicense.study.com/featured-insights/mobile-bans-increase-engagement-and-learning-time.html

That’s in favor of phones away in classes, not locked in stupid pouches all day

Right. They won’t care how the phones are away. My mom was a teacher. The poaches mean they don’t have to spend any time thinking about phones all day, so how is that at least not neutral.?

I personally want to have purpose build cell phone lockers like the private schools use. Times locks

you're delusional if you think the pouches mean they don't have to spend any time thinking about phones all day. hahahahah.

But it’s far simpler. If they find someone with a phone, it goes in their locked poach, and won’t be an issue the rest of the day. If they have a decoy phone it will be confiscated. It greatly simplifies and reduces teacher phone monitoring.

You laugh, so what is the joke here? Are you not disappointed that teachers can’t teach your children and focus on that rather than distractions like phones?

But this requires the teachers to intervene and police! Which is what people say the pouches would prevent.

Reduce not prevent. This likely would be a kid with a dummy phone; once it’s seen out of the bag, the dummy phone is taken away or also locked in the pouch and then the real phone is locked away for the rest of the day. Rather than the miscreant pulling out the phone in every class.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Fun story: at back to school night at one of the non-Yondr APS schools, a teacher had a big orange crate at the front of the class with a sign "CELL PHONES HERE," his $5 solution to kids paying attention in his class and a policy he has had in place for years. One of the parents asked whether a Yondr pouch would be a better solution than the orange crate. He hedged a little, presumably not wanting to call our local school systems idiots. But then he gave his answer: the orange crate does the job and has for years. If it ain't broke.

too bad APS isn't listening to actual teachers, just the (few loud voices) of anti screen crazy parents!!!

Most teachers support no phones, and he probably doesn’t care either way. He didn’t hedge because he didn’t want to make them look bad, he just doesn’t care as long as screens are away.

most teachers? hahahaha

A strong majority, 76%? Is that about the same as most? Is there a better word, maybe preponderance?


https://teachinglicense.study.com/featured-insights/mobile-bans-increase-engagement-and-learning-time.html

That’s in favor of phones away in classes, not locked in stupid pouches all day

Right. They won’t care how the phones are away. My mom was a teacher. The poaches mean they don’t have to spend any time thinking about phones all day, so how is that at least not neutral.?

I personally want to have purpose build cell phone lockers like the private schools use. Times locks

you're delusional if you think the pouches mean they don't have to spend any time thinking about phones all day. hahahahah.

But it’s far simpler. If they find someone with a phone, it goes in their locked poach, and won’t be an issue the rest of the day. If they have a decoy phone it will be confiscated. It greatly simplifies and reduces teacher phone monitoring.

You laugh, so what is the joke here? Are you not disappointed that teachers can’t teach your children and focus on that rather than distractions like phones?

But this requires the teachers to intervene and police! Which is what people say the pouches would prevent.

Reduce not prevent. This likely would be a kid with a dummy phone; once it’s seen out of the bag, the dummy phone is taken away or also locked in the pouch and then the real phone is locked away for the rest of the day. Rather than the miscreant pulling out the phone in every class.

The rule should be if you get caught breaking the VDOE cell phone rule that you should not be able to bring a phone for the rest of the school year. It would solve every problem, pouch or no pouch, parent rule abider or cheater.

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Anonymous wrote:Fun story: at back to school night at one of the non-Yondr APS schools, a teacher had a big orange crate at the front of the class with a sign "CELL PHONES HERE," his $5 solution to kids paying attention in his class and a policy he has had in place for years. One of the parents asked whether a Yondr pouch would be a better solution than the orange crate. He hedged a little, presumably not wanting to call our local school systems idiots. But then he gave his answer: the orange crate does the job and has for years. If it ain't broke.

too bad APS isn't listening to actual teachers, just the (few loud voices) of anti screen crazy parents!!!

Most teachers support no phones, and he probably doesn’t care either way. He didn’t hedge because he didn’t want to make them look bad, he just doesn’t care as long as screens are away.

most teachers? hahahaha

A strong majority, 76%? Is that about the same as most? Is there a better word, maybe preponderance?


https://teachinglicense.study.com/featured-insights/mobile-bans-increase-engagement-and-learning-time.html

That’s in favor of phones away in classes, not locked in stupid pouches all day

Right. They won’t care how the phones are away. My mom was a teacher. The poaches mean they don’t have to spend any time thinking about phones all day, so how is that at least not neutral.?

I personally want to have purpose build cell phone lockers like the private schools use. Times locks

you're delusional if you think the pouches mean they don't have to spend any time thinking about phones all day. hahahahah.

But it’s far simpler. If they find someone with a phone, it goes in their locked poach, and won’t be an issue the rest of the day. If they have a decoy phone it will be confiscated. It greatly simplifies and reduces teacher phone monitoring.

You laugh, so what is the joke here? Are you not disappointed that teachers can’t teach your children and focus on that rather than distractions like phones?

But this requires the teachers to intervene and police! Which is what people say the pouches would prevent.

Reduce not prevent. This likely would be a kid with a dummy phone; once it’s seen out of the bag, the dummy phone is taken away or also locked in the pouch and then the real phone is locked away for the rest of the day. Rather than the miscreant pulling out the phone in every class.

The rule should be if you get caught breaking the VDOE cell phone rule that you should not be able to bring a phone for the rest of the school year. It would solve every problem, pouch or no pouch, parent rule abider or cheater.

I would like to see the phone taken and only released when a parent comes to retrieve it a week or month later. Consequences.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:my kid has a fake one in the pouch. This experiment cost us 130K.

You’re such a cool mom!!

So if your kid doesn’t use their phone all day, why do they bother with a fake one?

DP. Obviously in case of emergency/lockdown. That’s why we’ve considered this, too, and I’m sure many others are also doing it.

Yup my friend's kid was in a lockdown. Phones were required to be in lockers. School made kids leave without letting them get their phones. Kids had no way to contact parents to get home. It was a freakin nightmare.

I don't trust APS one bit not to do this again.

Kids don't HAVE to contact parents to get picked up. Schools will send out communications. Just won't be as fast and direct with your student as you prefer.

It's a sub-par solution to a problem that doesn't need to exist in the first place.

The bigger and more frequent problem is phones in the classroom; the lockdown which becomes school dismissal without access to the school — how often does that happen??? Most lockdowns resolve and return to normal schedule, what is going on at these schools that they throw their hands up and say “whatevs, go home”.

There are plenty of lockdowns -- two on our campus in the past three months -- usually due to some false alarm or outside situation. My school has not made assuring parents that everything is fine a priority. You get an email hours later and long after your kid has gotten in touch. For sure, you hear more reliably and sooner from your own kid. If you are perfectly happy to wait and wonder, have at it but stick to parenting your own kid. I'm not giving up access to my kid to appease the zealous anti-screeners. Putting phones away during instructional time does not necessitate this overbroad and unduly expensive solution.

So you have had two lockdowns where the kid were released from school without given time to go their lockers since school started (which around here is 2 months ago). What district is this?

FCPS. There was one in August and one recently on our campus. I just checked the recent one and the email we got from the school was sent well after the return to normal operations. So, no, the school's track record is not to communicate timely. Again, if it's not important to you to be in touch with your kid, I fully respect that parenting choice, but I'm making a different and equally appropriate one. Phones have their downsides that I'll manage on my own as a parent, including making it clear to my kids that phones are away during instructional time. Phones also have considerable upsides and nothing in this thread has been persuasive that those should be tossed out with the bath water.