APS Yondr Pouch: Opening at home questions

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid is forgetful. Very. I give it fewer than 2 months before the pouch comes home locked for a weekend. We use the phone for tracking since the bus stop is so far away. Will my tracking device work while the phone is in the pouch?

Questions; Why didn't APS get cell phone lockers for every homeroom? That way the kid would have to go get it but it wouldn't be locked in some impenetrable bag.

What kind of magnet do I need at home for when this thing comes home locked. Can I buy a Yondr one?

I bet your kid won't forget again after no phone for a weekend or evening. I would thank APS for this opportunity for your child to have natural consequences.

The homeroom teacher having them would be so annoying. Kids in and out during the day for late arrival/early departure and then APS has to deal with the liability issue of the phone being out of the kids' possession and being responsible for them, which I can see why they don't want that at all.

I'm a parent of a very ADHD kid who can't take stimulant medication. I am a firm believer in natural consequences, but I will say that the idea that a kid with a disability that impacts memory and attention will learn not to have ADHD because of a natural consequence like this is wrong. My kid has learned strategies for getting around the lack of a phone. He's learned to be fine with very cheap phones because that's all he can afford as a replacement. He's learned to be very polite about asking to borrow someone's phone. I have learned to not need tracking software on him. He hasn't learned to not to lose the phone, and I am sure would come home with a yondr bag if he were OP's situation. Of course if they used a shoe holder or a phone locker he'd leave it there too, so those aren't solutions to that problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Write to the school board about the ridiculous pouches. A shoe holder is much less expensive, doesn't but a financial burden on parents for damaged of lost goods and allows phones to be accessed, if necessary. Yondr is a gross misuse of taxpayer funds.

And, yes, you can buy a magnet on Amazon. Put Neodymium into the search bar.

I predict every family will have at least one in the near future.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid is forgetful. Very. I give it fewer than 2 months before the pouch comes home locked for a weekend. We use the phone for tracking since the bus stop is so far away. Will my tracking device work while the phone is in the pouch?

Questions; Why didn't APS get cell phone lockers for every homeroom? That way the kid would have to go get it but it wouldn't be locked in some impenetrable bag.

What kind of magnet do I need at home for when this thing comes home locked. Can I buy a Yondr one?

I bet your kid won't forget again after no phone for a weekend or evening. I would thank APS for this opportunity for your child to have natural consequences.

The homeroom teacher having them would be so annoying. Kids in and out during the day for late arrival/early departure and then APS has to deal with the liability issue of the phone being out of the kids' possession and being responsible for them, which I can see why they don't want that at all.

I'm a parent of a very ADHD kid who can't take stimulant medication. I am a firm believer in natural consequences, but I will say that the idea that a kid with a disability that impacts memory and attention will learn not to have ADHD because of a natural consequence like this is wrong. My kid has learned strategies for getting around the lack of a phone. He's learned to be fine with very cheap phones because that's all he can afford as a replacement. He's learned to be very polite about asking to borrow someone's phone. I have learned to not need tracking software on him. He hasn't learned to not to lose the phone, and I am sure would come home with a yondr bag if he were OP's situation. Of course if they used a shoe holder or a phone locker he'd leave it there too, so those aren't solutions to that problem.

I'm pretty sure the APS policy on this has exceptions for kids with IEPs, which surely a student who is very ADHD has one, yes?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid is forgetful. Very. I give it fewer than 2 months before the pouch comes home locked for a weekend. We use the phone for tracking since the bus stop is so far away. Will my tracking device work while the phone is in the pouch?

Questions; Why didn't APS get cell phone lockers for every homeroom? That way the kid would have to go get it but it wouldn't be locked in some impenetrable bag.

What kind of magnet do I need at home for when this thing comes home locked. Can I buy a Yondr one?

Set a daily phone alarm for 5 minutes after the final bell to remind your kid to check that their phone is unlocked. Done.

[Anonymous]

My kid just did it day 1. He was told there would be an unlocking device on the bus but there wasn’t.

[Anonymous]

I have a kid with ADHD too. I will 100% buy this if his school goes to the pouches and tell him to leave it in all of the time. I’m not worried about my kid using the phone during the day and like others, am more concerned with forgetting to unlock it. Right now there aren’t any teachers forcing collecting but if he has to do a shoe holder or similar we will buy a fake phone for the same reason. Those work kids without ADHD doesn’t understand. It’s not about being addicted or not addicted or a phone. My kid doesn’t care that much about the phone. It’s a safety and forgetful issue.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid is forgetful. Very. I give it fewer than 2 months before the pouch comes home locked for a weekend. We use the phone for tracking since the bus stop is so far away. Will my tracking device work while the phone is in the pouch?

Questions; Why didn't APS get cell phone lockers for every homeroom? That way the kid would have to go get it but it wouldn't be locked in some impenetrable bag.

What kind of magnet do I need at home for when this thing comes home locked. Can I buy a Yondr one?

I bet your kid won't forget again after no phone for a weekend or evening. I would thank APS for this opportunity for your child to have natural consequences.

The homeroom teacher having them would be so annoying. Kids in and out during the day for late arrival/early departure and then APS has to deal with the liability issue of the phone being out of the kids' possession and being responsible for them, which I can see why they don't want that at all.

I'm a parent of a very ADHD kid who can't take stimulant medication. I am a firm believer in natural consequences, but I will say that the idea that a kid with a disability that impacts memory and attention will learn not to have ADHD because of a natural consequence like this is wrong. My kid has learned strategies for getting around the lack of a phone. He's learned to be fine with very cheap phones because that's all he can afford as a replacement. He's learned to be very polite about asking to borrow someone's phone. I have learned to not need tracking software on him. He hasn't learned to not to lose the phone, and I am sure would come home with a yondr bag if he were OP's situation. Of course if they used a shoe holder or a phone locker he'd leave it there too, so those aren't solutions to that problem.

I'm pretty sure the APS policy on this has exceptions for kids with IEPs, which surely a student who is very ADHD has one, yes?

I'm not saying that my kid would need an exception. I'm saying that the idea that if a kid misses the phone for the weekend he won't forget again is wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid is forgetful. Very. I give it fewer than 2 months before the pouch comes home locked for a weekend. We use the phone for tracking since the bus stop is so far away. Will my tracking device work while the phone is in the pouch?

Questions; Why didn't APS get cell phone lockers for every homeroom? That way the kid would have to go get it but it wouldn't be locked in some impenetrable bag.

What kind of magnet do I need at home for when this thing comes home locked. Can I buy a Yondr one?

Set a daily phone alarm for 5 minutes after the final bell to remind your kid to check that their phone is unlocked. Done.

The phone is supposed to be off in the pouch, so it won't alarm.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The shoe holder type holders don't work because kids steal phones out of them.

No phone for the weekend is a great way for your kid to learn to be more responsible.

Not in HS. The kids put their phones in the pouch at the beginning of the class and take it out when they leave. Next class, repeat. It's simple and it works.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The shoe holder type holders don't work because kids steal phones out of them.

No phone for the weekend is a great way for your kid to learn to be more responsible.

Not in HS. The kids put their phones in the pouch at the beginning of the class and take it out when they leave. Next class, repeat. It's simple and it works.

Have you taught in a school that has them? Or are you guessing? Theft has been a problem at our school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Remember it's optional to send your child to school with a phone at all.

that's how all the anti cell phone parents should have handled this, but nooo you all screamed at the school board so now the rest of us have to deal with this pouch crap.

my kid walks home so yes they are going to have a phone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid is forgetful. Very. I give it fewer than 2 months before the pouch comes home locked for a weekend. We use the phone for tracking since the bus stop is so far away. Will my tracking device work while the phone is in the pouch?

Questions; Why didn't APS get cell phone lockers for every homeroom? That way the kid would have to go get it but it wouldn't be locked in some impenetrable bag.

What kind of magnet do I need at home for when this thing comes home locked. Can I buy a Yondr one?

Because every student going back to their homeroom class at the end of the day - or mid-day if they have to leave early - is logistically ludicrous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid is forgetful. Very. I give it fewer than 2 months before the pouch comes home locked for a weekend. We use the phone for tracking since the bus stop is so far away. Will my tracking device work while the phone is in the pouch?

Questions; Why didn't APS get cell phone lockers for every homeroom? That way the kid would have to go get it but it wouldn't be locked in some impenetrable bag.

What kind of magnet do I need at home for when this thing comes home locked. Can I buy a Yondr one?

I'm not sure how the phone being locked in the school for the weekend would be better than the cell being locked in a pouch.

My understanding is that if an iphone is turned off, you can track it with find my phone, but other tracking software might not work.

Could you put another tracker on your kid?

The pouch stays with the kid. I guess OP thinks their kid won't remember to unlock it when leaving the building with all the other kids who are unlocking their phones.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid is forgetful. Very. I give it fewer than 2 months before the pouch comes home locked for a weekend. We use the phone for tracking since the bus stop is so far away. Will my tracking device work while the phone is in the pouch?

Questions; Why didn't APS get cell phone lockers for every homeroom? That way the kid would have to go get it but it wouldn't be locked in some impenetrable bag.

What kind of magnet do I need at home for when this thing comes home locked. Can I buy a Yondr one?

I bet your kid won't forget again after no phone for a weekend or evening. I would thank APS for this opportunity for your child to have natural consequences.

The homeroom teacher having them would be so annoying. Kids in and out during the day for late arrival/early departure and then APS has to deal with the liability issue of the phone being out of the kids' possession and being responsible for them, which I can see why they don't want that at all.

I'm a parent of a very ADHD kid who can't take stimulant medication. I am a firm believer in natural consequences, but I will say that the idea that a kid with a disability that impacts memory and attention will learn not to have ADHD because of a natural consequence like this is wrong. My kid has learned strategies for getting around the lack of a phone. He's learned to be fine with very cheap phones because that's all he can afford as a replacement. He's learned to be very polite about asking to borrow someone's phone. I have learned to not need tracking software on him. He hasn't learned to not to lose the phone, and I am sure would come home with a yondr bag if he were OP's situation. Of course if they used a shoe holder or a phone locker he'd leave it there too, so those aren't solutions to that problem.

I'm pretty sure the APS policy on this has exceptions for kids with IEPs, which surely a student who is very ADHD has one, yes?

I would hope that having a 504 or IEP is not an automatic reprieve from the pouch. Not all students with accommodations need a smart phone to provide those accommodations. "Because Jimmy will forget to unlock the pouch before getting on the bus" is not a sufficient excuse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have a kid with ADHD too. I will 100% buy this if his school goes to the pouches and tell him to leave it in all of the time. I’m not worried about my kid using the phone during the day and like others, am more concerned with forgetting to unlock it. Right now there aren’t any teachers forcing collecting but if he has to do a shoe holder or similar we will buy a fake phone for the same reason. Those work kids without ADHD doesn’t understand. It’s not about being addicted or not addicted or a phone. My kid doesn’t care that much about the phone. It’s a safety and forgetful issue.

https://www.amazon.com/Without-Logo-Working-5-4inches-Blackscreen/dp/B09ST5KBBG/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?crid=2O9CTI0PNAQSE&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.8JIOSVaFslCM0RQm-hgipemqzHgevJBTt4c57iPX38UsfUm6uN6qp7S0p3Zv5UKkgDuj972K8SNaY-098kJgT_r8ZddD-yLJSJO653FXR7A6a30nXM0eJ65oyybEi1ynVNQTb5hEqAnFYMrQ5Siz7gibIActkcLydTp11zdSlZpD30Bvt1iqBUYUmGzwlXM8GiJBB6LTIycRm_Os9urUXw.JKeAYKHJ66_dn3zXdk5yH6ihxqNXTIClg_QH_tBPdQU&dib_tag=se&keywords=dummy+phone&qid=1726780341&refinements=p_85%3A2470955011&rnid=2470954011&rps=1&sprefix=dummy+phone%2Caps%2C91&sr=8-2

One doesn't have to have ADHD to forget things, you know. So your kid gets a pass because he has ADHD and kids without an IEP don't? Nope.