How many teachers are leaving your school next year?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Out of curiosity, how many teachers are leaving your school next year? At my ES there is 10 that we know of so far. Im wondering if the shortage situation is going to be better or worse than last year for the county.


To me this metric is meaningless without additional data. For example, I’d like to know:

the delta between outgoing and incoming (not known until late summer);

the primary reason for leaving (eg, administrative issues, unsuitable match, retirement, career change, etc)

the seniority of the teachers;

and so on.


When you leave a job, is there ever any difference between the reason you give officially and the real reason that was the tipping point?


Of course, I may say commute when it may be something else. FCPS isn’t that big, you may run into these people at other schools a few years down the line.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How many are leaving at Navy?


I don't teach there but inside source told me 15-20.


That's a lot but there's a new principal.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Heard there are 40 at one HS. "...but that's normal."


LOL...NO
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Out of curiosity, how many teachers are leaving your school next year? At my ES there is 10 that we know of so far. Im wondering if the shortage situation is going to be better or worse than last year for the county.


To me this metric is meaningless without additional data. For example, I’d like to know:

the delta between outgoing and incoming (not known until late summer);

the primary reason for leaving (eg, administrative issues, unsuitable match, retirement, career change, etc)

the seniority of the teachers;

and so on.


When you leave a job, is there ever any difference between the reason you give officially and the real reason that was the tipping point?


Of course, I may say commute when it may be something else. FCPS isn’t that big, you may run into these people at other schools a few years down the line.


We had two more SPED teachers that are leaving-just told the school.
Anonymous
I saw Oakton HS posting their vacancies (publicly) and it only said Math, Adapted Curriculum, and SpEd Cat A. Seems pretty low to me but I'm an outsider.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I saw Oakton HS posting their vacancies (publicly) and it only said Math, Adapted Curriculum, and SpEd Cat A. Seems pretty low to me but I'm an outsider.


Vacancies are concentrated in Sped and Elementary positions.
Anonymous
ES
Off the top of my head I can think of 7 classroom teachers and 4 IAs.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:ES
Off the top of my head I can think of 7 classroom teachers and 4 IAs.


WE had three IA's and one teacher announce they are leaving-in addition to others we knew of. Last day of school lol
Anonymous
20% of our staff is leaving. Approx half are leaving for typical reasons: long child rearing leave, moving, going to a different school, etc. The other 10% are leaving the field entirely. We should be able to replace all the gen Ed elementary people, probably, but I suspect our math, science, sped and bilingual classes will remain open and staffed with a revolving door of subs.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:20% of our staff is leaving. Approx half are leaving for typical reasons: long child rearing leave, moving, going to a different school, etc. The other 10% are leaving the field entirely. We should be able to replace all the gen Ed elementary people, probably, but I suspect our math, science, sped and bilingual classes will remain open and staffed with a revolving door of subs.


What positions do you have for math and science that aren’t gen ed?
Anonymous
Based on the bombardment of emails and direct calls from school principals to my recent college grad (BS in Elementary Ed w/ SPED) there are a TON of openings across FCPS.

She even had a HS principal call asking what he could do to get her to come teach HS. I've also heard that there are no SPED teachers available.

She interviewed for SPED position at an ES and was hired on the spot.

With all the openings across FCPS it is very easy for a teacher who isn't 100% satisfied with their position/school to go elsewhere after only a year. I've also heard that the current "burn out" rate is at an all-time low of 3 yrs.

In the past the attrition rate for teachers was typically high only for those less desirable Title 1 area schools...and majority of new teachers usually found work there first before moving elsewhere.

Now we have that unfortunate perfect storm where there are not only fewer teachers graduating but also too many job openings available.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Based on the bombardment of emails and direct calls from school principals to my recent college grad (BS in Elementary Ed w/ SPED) there are a TON of openings across FCPS.

She even had a HS principal call asking what he could do to get her to come teach HS. I've also heard that there are no SPED teachers available.

She interviewed for SPED position at an ES and was hired on the spot.

With all the openings across FCPS it is very easy for a teacher who isn't 100% satisfied with their position/school to go elsewhere after only a year. I've also heard that the current "burn out" rate is at an all-time low of 3 yrs.

In the past the attrition rate for teachers was typically high only for those less desirable Title 1 area schools...and majority of new teachers usually found work there first before moving elsewhere.

Now we have that unfortunate perfect storm where there are not only fewer teachers graduating but also too many job openings available.


It's ok...becausee teachers are lazy do nothings anyway (insert sarcasm) who needs them!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Based on the bombardment of emails and direct calls from school principals to my recent college grad (BS in Elementary Ed w/ SPED) there are a TON of openings across FCPS.

She even had a HS principal call asking what he could do to get her to come teach HS. I've also heard that there are no SPED teachers available.

She interviewed for SPED position at an ES and was hired on the spot.

With all the openings across FCPS it is very easy for a teacher who isn't 100% satisfied with their position/school to go elsewhere after only a year. I've also heard that the current "burn out" rate is at an all-time low of 3 yrs.

In the past the attrition rate for teachers was typically high only for those less desirable Title 1 area schools...and majority of new teachers usually found work there first before moving elsewhere.

Now we have that unfortunate perfect storm where there are not only fewer teachers graduating but also too many job openings available.


My first year of teaching was absolutely miserable. I barely saw my friends, I gained a bunch of weight from the stress and I was crying all the time. I’m better now but it’s difficult to decide if you are going to push through or cut your losses and move on. Very, very few people have to personality, skill set, and the willingness to sacrifice needed to be a public school teacher and you need all three of those things.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Based on the bombardment of emails and direct calls from school principals to my recent college grad (BS in Elementary Ed w/ SPED) there are a TON of openings across FCPS.

She even had a HS principal call asking what he could do to get her to come teach HS. I've also heard that there are no SPED teachers available.

She interviewed for SPED position at an ES and was hired on the spot.

With all the openings across FCPS it is very easy for a teacher who isn't 100% satisfied with their position/school to go elsewhere after only a year. I've also heard that the current "burn out" rate is at an all-time low of 3 yrs.

In the past the attrition rate for teachers was typically high only for those less desirable Title 1 area schools...and majority of new teachers usually found work there first before moving elsewhere.

Now we have that unfortunate perfect storm where there are not only fewer teachers graduating but also too many job openings available.


I give it 10 years, SPED and much of GenED at the elementary school level are going to be taught by teachers brought in from developing countries (Fairfax and other schools across the country are already testing this). It’s probably cheaper to just hand out VISAs, pay them like new teachers and not worry about paying for a pension because they can’t stay in the US long enough to reach full retirement. they can’t quit midyear because they can lose their VISA. I already see it coming, this is the cheapest and quickest solution to the problem, only time will tell if it will work.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:20% of our staff is leaving. Approx half are leaving for typical reasons: long child rearing leave, moving, going to a different school, etc. The other 10% are leaving the field entirely. We should be able to replace all the gen Ed elementary people, probably, but I suspect our math, science, sped and bilingual classes will remain open and staffed with a revolving door of subs.


What positions do you have for math and science that aren’t gen ed?


We have a 2nd, a 3rd, two fourth, a middle school lang. arts and a middle school social studies position on top of several open positions in math, sci, bilingual and sped.
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