How many teachers are leaving your school next year?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Based on the bombardment of emails and direct calls from school principals to my recent college grad (BS in Elementary Ed w/ SPED) there are a TON of openings across FCPS.

She even had a HS principal call asking what he could do to get her to come teach HS. I've also heard that there are no SPED teachers available.

She interviewed for SPED position at an ES and was hired on the spot.

With all the openings across FCPS it is very easy for a teacher who isn't 100% satisfied with their position/school to go elsewhere after only a year. I've also heard that the current "burn out" rate is at an all-time low of 3 yrs.

In the past the attrition rate for teachers was typically high only for those less desirable Title 1 area schools...and majority of new teachers usually found work there first before moving elsewhere.

Now we have that unfortunate perfect storm where there are not only fewer teachers graduating but also too many job openings available.

My first year of teaching was absolutely miserable. I barely saw my friends, I gained a bunch of weight from the stress and I was crying all the time. I’m better now but it’s difficult to decide if you are going to push through or cut your losses and move on. Very, very few people have to personality, skill set, and the willingness to sacrifice needed to be a public school teacher and you need all three of those things.

I remember my first year. I made it through because of a very supportive mentor. Without him, I’m sure I would have quit. I cried every day. I was so overwhelmed, so tired, and I took everything personally. He was the one who helped me set reasonable expectations for myself so I wouldn’t burn out. I learned to accept it can’t all get done and that’s okay.

I agree that you need those the traits to survive (personality, skill set, willingness to sacrifice). Unfortunately, the sacrifice is becoming too great that people with the other two traits don’t want to stay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:20% of our staff is leaving. Approx half are leaving for typical reasons: long child rearing leave, moving, going to a different school, etc. The other 10% are leaving the field entirely. We should be able to replace all the gen Ed elementary people, probably, but I suspect our math, science, sped and bilingual classes will remain open and staffed with a revolving door of subs.

What positions do you have for math and science that aren’t gen ed?

We have a 2nd, a 3rd, two fourth, a middle school lang. arts and a middle school social studies position on top of several open positions in math, sci, bilingual and sped.

Sorry about my confusion. Does your school departmentalize as early as 2nd grade? How do the MS positions come into play?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Based on the bombardment of emails and direct calls from school principals to my recent college grad (BS in Elementary Ed w/ SPED) there are a TON of openings across FCPS.

She even had a HS principal call asking what he could do to get her to come teach HS. I've also heard that there are no SPED teachers available.

She interviewed for SPED position at an ES and was hired on the spot.

With all the openings across FCPS it is very easy for a teacher who isn't 100% satisfied with their position/school to go elsewhere after only a year. I've also heard that the current "burn out" rate is at an all-time low of 3 yrs.

In the past the attrition rate for teachers was typically high only for those less desirable Title 1 area schools...and majority of new teachers usually found work there first before moving elsewhere.

Now we have that unfortunate perfect storm where there are not only fewer teachers graduating but also too many job openings available.

My first year of teaching was absolutely miserable. I barely saw my friends, I gained a bunch of weight from the stress and I was crying all the time. I’m better now but it’s difficult to decide if you are going to push through or cut your losses and move on. Very, very few people have to personality, skill set, and the willingness to sacrifice needed to be a public school teacher and you need all three of those things.

I remember my first year. I made it through because of a very supportive mentor. Without him, I’m sure I would have quit. I cried every day. I was so overwhelmed, so tired, and I took everything personally. He was the one who helped me set reasonable expectations for myself so I wouldn’t burn out. I learned to accept it can’t all get done and that’s okay.

I agree that you need those the traits to survive (personality, skill set, willingness to sacrifice). Unfortunately, the sacrifice is becoming too great that people with the other two traits don’t want to stay.

Yup everyone is tired of having to sacrifice for little respect and compensation. I don't fault anyone leaving.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Based on the bombardment of emails and direct calls from school principals to my recent college grad (BS in Elementary Ed w/ SPED) there are a TON of openings across FCPS.

She even had a HS principal call asking what he could do to get her to come teach HS. I've also heard that there are no SPED teachers available.

She interviewed for SPED position at an ES and was hired on the spot.

With all the openings across FCPS it is very easy for a teacher who isn't 100% satisfied with their position/school to go elsewhere after only a year. I've also heard that the current "burn out" rate is at an all-time low of 3 yrs.

In the past the attrition rate for teachers was typically high only for those less desirable Title 1 area schools...and majority of new teachers usually found work there first before moving elsewhere.

Now we have that unfortunate perfect storm where there are not only fewer teachers graduating but also too many job openings available.

My first year of teaching was absolutely miserable. I barely saw my friends, I gained a bunch of weight from the stress and I was crying all the time. I’m better now but it’s difficult to decide if you are going to push through or cut your losses and move on. Very, very few people have to personality, skill set, and the willingness to sacrifice needed to be a public school teacher and you need all three of those things.

My first 25 years weren’t like that. 4 of my last 5 however…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Based on the bombardment of emails and direct calls from school principals to my recent college grad (BS in Elementary Ed w/ SPED) there are a TON of openings across FCPS.

She even had a HS principal call asking what he could do to get her to come teach HS. I've also heard that there are no SPED teachers available.

She interviewed for SPED position at an ES and was hired on the spot.

With all the openings across FCPS it is very easy for a teacher who isn't 100% satisfied with their position/school to go elsewhere after only a year. I've also heard that the current "burn out" rate is at an all-time low of 3 yrs.

In the past the attrition rate for teachers was typically high only for those less desirable Title 1 area schools...and majority of new teachers usually found work there first before moving elsewhere.

Now we have that unfortunate perfect storm where there are not only fewer teachers graduating but also too many job openings available.

This! I lasted 2 years at my current school. I was in a very toxic situation with colleagues. I tried to get some support from administration who sympathized, but was mostly unsupportive. Furthermore, the workload has been unbearable. I very typically was working 11-12 hour days at least 4 days a week 8-9 on there other/s, and at least 4-6 hours on the weekend. Likewise, between the workload and not having administrative support/or collaborative colleagues, for the sake of my mental health, I had to leave. The head of a department in another location reached out to me and offered a job opportunity in the nick of time, and my transfer was finalized on 5/31. I am (was) in a very hard to fill position. I worry it will not be filled actually before the start of the year. I am sure stories like mine are very common.

[Anonymous]

The entire 4th grade team at our ES has left.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The entire 4th grade team at our ES has left.

Do you know why?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The entire 4th grade team at our ES has left.

I was on a team once were 4 out of the 5 teachers left. This is a complicated question to answer because it is undoubtedly due to many variables, one of them being that those teachers were probably already considering leaving. Every once in a while, there is truly a bad group of kids (10-12 really misbehaved children spread across multiple classrooms) that just shuffle through the grades, disposing of good teachers; and without admin support, there’s no reason to stay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:20% of our staff is leaving. Approx half are leaving for typical reasons: long child rearing leave, moving, going to a different school, etc. The other 10% are leaving the field entirely. We should be able to replace all the gen Ed elementary people, probably, but I suspect our math, science, sped and bilingual classes will remain open and staffed with a revolving door of subs.

What positions do you have for math and science that aren’t gen ed?

We have a 2nd, a 3rd, two fourth, a middle school lang. arts and a middle school social studies position on top of several open positions in math, sci, bilingual and sped.

Sorry about my confusion. Does your school departmentalize as early as 2nd grade? How do the MS positions come into play?

This sounds more like private school than an FCPS public school

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The entire 4th grade team at our ES has left.

I was on a team once were 4 out of the 5 teachers left. This is a complicated question to answer because it is undoubtedly due to many variables, one of them being that those teachers were probably already considering leaving. Every once in a while, there is truly a bad group of kids (10-12 really misbehaved children spread across multiple classrooms) that just shuffle through the grades, disposing of good teachers; and without admin support, there’s no reason to stay.

I tutor a rising 6th grader in a Level IV class whose stories horrify me. The kids are constantly disruptive, multiple units behind, chase subs away by lunchtime, fights in specials, etc. She learns nothing at school and she can’t get away from these kids because there’s only one Level IV class per grade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:20% of our staff is leaving. Approx half are leaving for typical reasons: long child rearing leave, moving, going to a different school, etc. The other 10% are leaving the field entirely. We should be able to replace all the gen Ed elementary people, probably, but I suspect our math, science, sped and bilingual classes will remain open and staffed with a revolving door of subs.

What positions do you have for math and science that aren’t gen ed?

We have a 2nd, a 3rd, two fourth, a middle school lang. arts and a middle school social studies position on top of several open positions in math, sci, bilingual and sped.

Sorry about my confusion. Does your school departmentalize as early as 2nd grade? How do the MS positions come into play?

This sounds more like private school than an FCPS public school

I teach in Baltimore City and our first grade classes are departmentalized. It’s awful. Too much for the kids but we have to do what they tell us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Based on the bombardment of emails and direct calls from school principals to my recent college grad (BS in Elementary Ed w/ SPED) there are a TON of openings across FCPS.

She even had a HS principal call asking what he could do to get her to come teach HS. I've also heard that there are no SPED teachers available.

She interviewed for SPED position at an ES and was hired on the spot.

With all the openings across FCPS it is very easy for a teacher who isn't 100% satisfied with their position/school to go elsewhere after only a year. I've also heard that the current "burn out" rate is at an all-time low of 3 yrs.

In the past the attrition rate for teachers was typically high only for those less desirable Title 1 area schools...and majority of new teachers usually found work there first before moving elsewhere.

Now we have that unfortunate perfect storm where there are not only fewer teachers graduating but also too many job openings available.

My first year of teaching was absolutely miserable. I barely saw my friends, I gained a bunch of weight from the stress and I was crying all the time. I’m better now but it’s difficult to decide if you are going to push through or cut your losses and move on. Very, very few people have to personality, skill set, and the willingness to sacrifice needed to be a public school teacher and you need all three of those things.

My first 25 years weren’t like that. 4 of my last 5 however…

Same. My first 20 years were good. Most of the past 7 were like this. I’m counting the years until retirement now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The entire 4th grade team at our ES has left.

Do you know why?

The principal.

[Anonymous]

Our ES only announced 4-5 teachers in the end of year email, but I suppose more could always quit over the summer.

I was very surprised my child's teacher is returning; she's clearly been checked out since around Thanksgiving.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:20% of our staff is leaving. Approx half are leaving for typical reasons: long child rearing leave, moving, going to a different school, etc. The other 10% are leaving the field entirely. We should be able to replace all the gen Ed elementary people, probably, but I suspect our math, science, sped and bilingual classes will remain open and staffed with a revolving door of subs.

What positions do you have for math and science that aren’t gen ed?

We have a 2nd, a 3rd, two fourth, a middle school lang. arts and a middle school social studies position on top of several open positions in math, sci, bilingual and sped.

Sorry about my confusion. Does your school departmentalize as early as 2nd grade? How do the MS positions come into play?

Not sure why this is hard to understand. The 2nd-4th grade positions are elementary Gen Ed. The middle school positions are middle school, including math, science. Then we have a few bilingual openings in elementary and a few sped openings across K-8.