Why do parents have such an issue with DEIB

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Anonymous wrote:Bi-racial family here. I think the DEI movement has simply gone too far.

-There are some DEI initiatives in my child's school that are great such as commitment to read diverse authors and in school author readings from diverse authors.
-Other initiatives just do not seem age appropriate too me. Huge emphasis on pronouns in 5th grade and how everyone has to be aware of when a person changes their pronouns.
-A day of silence at school to show solidarity with LGBTQ students. I'm sorry I don't pay money for my children to go to school and be silent.
-Celebration of MLK day is great and I love the idea of honoring the day with guest speaker or lecture but this year almost the entire day was taken up with MLK activities and there was no time for real academics. There has to be a balance

I'm sure you're a white woman married to a black man.

No, I'm not remotely white. I'm also tired of people thinking that all black and brown people are monolithic in the way that they think and automatically support all DEI efforts. There are legitimate criticisms of the DEI movement from underrepresented minorities. I think it is time to reassess the foundations of DEI programs and I don't necessarily advocate for an elimination of them but certainly a reimagining.

White DEI advocates will always speak over you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Bi-racial family here. I think the DEI movement has simply gone too far.

-There are some DEI initiatives in my child's school that are great such as commitment to read diverse authors and in school author readings from diverse authors.
-Other initiatives just do not seem age appropriate too me. Huge emphasis on pronouns in 5th grade and how everyone has to be aware of when a person changes their pronouns.
-A day of silence at school to show solidarity with LGBTQ students. I'm sorry I don't pay money for my children to go to school and be silent.
-Celebration of MLK day is great and I love the idea of honoring the day with guest speaker or lecture but this year almost the entire day was taken up with MLK activities and there was no time for real academics. There has to be a balance

I'm sure you're a white woman married to a black man.

What’s wrong with white women marrying black men?

It means that racism isn't completely absent. Instances of racism exist within interracial marriages, white people will always biases and prejudices that may affect their relationships and children, which stem from societal influences, family expectations, and personal experiences.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't really agree with being told at my last workplace DEI training - in a school- that it's "not enough" to not be racist, one MUST be anti racist for approval from the DEI crowd. Where does this end? Probably not well in some way or other. Right now, it seems a lot of people are simply losing interest?

You should be anti-racist. Like why is this so bothersome to you?

Because the goal post keeps moving. And I disagree that I should devote all my time thought and action to being anti racist, which is what it actually means, along with constant examination and active intervention of self and others on race. There are a lot of issues I can take an active stance on, like anti poverty, or anti elder abuse. I would like to choose when and where to devote my efforts without recrimination. I am not Mother Theresa and also have a life to live. So I don't agree that I should be anti racist or am somehow failing in the full meaning of that word. Not being racist suffices for most people most of the time.

Nobody is asking you to devote all your time. Stop being so dramatical.

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When you go to a DEI training they do ask you to devote all your time. You do not know what anti racist as contrasted with not racist means. Look it up. You are clearly not anti racist.

They ask you to do better. If you can’t find a way to ever examine your thoughts and actions then that’s a you problem.

I’m doing just fine, thank you I don’t need a 25 year old women’s gendered studies major who couldn’t hold a job in the real world to describe to me what she thinks “doing better” means.

Just the elitist attitude that needs to change. You can learn a lot from people with different viewpoints.

-old STEM major who is doing quite well, thanks

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Anonymous wrote:I think people, ( even radical feminist liberals like me) , are tired of being told they are racists and are tired of being forced fed pronouncements about diversity.

Nobody is calling anybody racist. However, everyone that is racist is definitely anti-DEBI for a lot is the same reasons people are throwing out here.

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If you’re actually being called a racist it’s probably for a valid reason…

That's just what the grifters tell themselves to keep the grift going. Seems like some people will need some job training soon once the funding for this garbage dries up. A lot of DEI officers have already lost their jobs. The writing is on the wall.

I’m a parent of kids in private school. I’m glad our communities are getting a healthy dose of DEI. Private school parents probably need it more than anyone else. Just look at this thread.

How very fascist of you to dictate what the majority needs if they don't want it.

I'm not dictating anything. I just said I'm glad this is happening in our communities of extreme privilege. We should all teach our kids how incredibly fortunate they are and to be aware/sensitive that 99% of the world isn't so lucky.

This pretty much encapsulates private school DEIB and clearly captures OP. PP and OP view DEI as a non-action privilege guilt tax. They are in favor of endless talk but they will viciously scratch the eyes out of anyone who asks them to take concrete and hard action that might actually reduce inequity.

Rank disgraceful hypocrites, the lot of them.

Bullshit.

I see that you were correctly characterized and you don’t like that.

Too bad. We all see you for the hypocrite you are.

I wasn't correctly characterized at all. But we all know that facts don't matter to some people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Bi-racial family here. I think the DEI movement has simply gone too far.

-There are some DEI initiatives in my child's school that are great such as commitment to read diverse authors and in school author readings from diverse authors.
-Other initiatives just do not seem age appropriate too me. Huge emphasis on pronouns in 5th grade and how everyone has to be aware of when a person changes their pronouns.
-A day of silence at school to show solidarity with LGBTQ students. I'm sorry I don't pay money for my children to go to school and be silent.
-Celebration of MLK day is great and I love the idea of honoring the day with guest speaker or lecture but this year almost the entire day was taken up with MLK activities and there was no time for real academics. There has to be a balance

Meh. Private schools have a lot of built-in extra days.

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Anonymous wrote:Bi-racial family here. I think the DEI movement has simply gone too far.

-There are some DEI initiatives in my child's school that are great such as commitment to read diverse authors and in school author readings from diverse authors.
-Other initiatives just do not seem age appropriate too me. Huge emphasis on pronouns in 5th grade and how everyone has to be aware of when a person changes their pronouns.
-A day of silence at school to show solidarity with LGBTQ students. I'm sorry I don't pay money for my children to go to school and be silent.
-Celebration of MLK day is great and I love the idea of honoring the day with guest speaker or lecture but this year almost the entire day was taken up with MLK activities and there was no time for real academics. There has to be a balance

I'm sure you're a white woman married to a black man.

What’s wrong with white women marrying black men?

It means that racism isn't completely absent. Instances of racism exist within interracial marriages, white people will always biases and prejudices that may affect their relationships and children, which stem from societal influences, family expectations, and personal experiences.

Now interracial marriage is racist?

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Anonymous wrote:I think people, ( even radical feminist liberals like me) , are tired of being told they are racists and are tired of being forced fed pronouncements about diversity.

Nobody is calling anybody racist. However, everyone that is racist is definitely anti-DEBI for a lot is the same reasons people are throwing out here.

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If you’re actually being called a racist it’s probably for a valid reason…

That's just what the grifters tell themselves to keep the grift going. Seems like some people will need some job training soon once the funding for this garbage dries up. A lot of DEI officers have already lost their jobs. The writing is on the wall.

I’m a parent of kids in private school. I’m glad our communities are getting a healthy dose of DEI. Private school parents probably need it more than anyone else. Just look at this thread.

How very fascist of you to dictate what the majority needs if they don't want it.

I'm not dictating anything. I just said I'm glad this is happening in our communities of extreme privilege. We should all teach our kids how incredibly fortunate they are and to be aware/sensitive that 99% of the world isn't so lucky.

This pretty much encapsulates private school DEIB and clearly captures OP. PP and OP view DEI as a non-action privilege guilt tax. They are in favor of endless talk but they will viciously scratch the eyes out of anyone who asks them to take concrete and hard action that might actually reduce inequity.

Rank disgraceful hypocrites, the lot of them.

Bullshit.

I see that you were correctly characterized and you don’t like that.

Too bad. We all see you for the hypocrite you are.

People like PP will soon be unemployed hypocrites. DEI is a jobs program for people who have no marketable skills. They need to keep the grift going for their own selfish reasons. But, people see it for what it is now.

I’m a private school parent and I can very clearly see you for what you are.

I'm sure you don't, but don't let that stop you from being a judgmental hypocrite. We all know types like you.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't really agree with being told at my last workplace DEI training - in a school- that it's "not enough" to not be racist, one MUST be anti racist for approval from the DEI crowd. Where does this end? Probably not well in some way or other. Right now, it seems a lot of people are simply losing interest?

You should be anti-racist. Like why is this so bothersome to you?

Because the goal post keeps moving. And I disagree that I should devote all my time thought and action to being anti racist, which is what it actually means, along with constant examination and active intervention of self and others on race. There are a lot of issues I can take an active stance on, like anti poverty, or anti elder abuse. I would like to choose when and where to devote my efforts without recrimination. I am not Mother Theresa and also have a life to live. So I don't agree that I should be anti racist or am somehow failing in the full meaning of that word. Not being racist suffices for most people most of the time.

Nobody is asking you to devote all your time. Stop being so dramatical.

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When you go to a DEI training they do ask you to devote all your time. You do not know what anti racist as contrasted with not racist means. Look it up. You are clearly not anti racist.

They ask you to do better. If you can’t find a way to ever examine your thoughts and actions then that’s a you problem.

I’m doing just fine, thank you I don’t need a 25 year old women’s gendered studies major who couldn’t hold a job in the real world to describe to me what she thinks “doing better” means.

Just the elitist attitude that needs to change. You can learn a lot from people with different viewpoints.

-old STEM major who is doing quite well, thanks

The elitist attitude comes from your demographic. You're completely out of step with what is going on today. Do you even have children in school? Or do you think reading posts here keeps you current and up to date?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Bi-racial family here. I think the DEI movement has simply gone too far.

-There are some DEI initiatives in my child's school that are great such as commitment to read diverse authors and in school author readings from diverse authors.
-Other initiatives just do not seem age appropriate too me. Huge emphasis on pronouns in 5th grade and how everyone has to be aware of when a person changes their pronouns.
-A day of silence at school to show solidarity with LGBTQ students. I'm sorry I don't pay money for my children to go to school and be silent.
-Celebration of MLK day is great and I love the idea of honoring the day with guest speaker or lecture but this year almost the entire day was taken up with MLK activities and there was no time for real academics. There has to be a balance

I'm sure you're a white woman married to a black man.

What’s wrong with white women marrying black men?

It means that racism isn't completely absent. Instances of racism exist within interracial marriages, white people will always biases and prejudices that may affect their relationships and children, which stem from societal influences, family expectations, and personal experiences.

Now interracial marriage is racist?

DEI revels in Dr. Seuss logic like this.

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Anonymous wrote:Bi-racial family here. I think the DEI movement has simply gone too far.

-There are some DEI initiatives in my child's school that are great such as commitment to read diverse authors and in school author readings from diverse authors.
-Other initiatives just do not seem age appropriate too me. Huge emphasis on pronouns in 5th grade and how everyone has to be aware of when a person changes their pronouns.
-A day of silence at school to show solidarity with LGBTQ students. I'm sorry I don't pay money for my children to go to school and be silent.
-Celebration of MLK day is great and I love the idea of honoring the day with guest speaker or lecture but this year almost the entire day was taken up with MLK activities and there was no time for real academics. There has to be a balance

I'm sure you're a white woman married to a black man.

What’s wrong with white women marrying black men?

It means that racism isn't completely absent. Instances of racism exist within interracial marriages, white people will always biases and prejudices that may affect their relationships and children, which stem from societal influences, family expectations, and personal experiences.

This is what I love about intense DEI advocates -- Apparently only white people are influenced by biases and external expectations.

Black people, presumably, always think rationally and perfectly objectively.

(Non-white/non-black people are not characterized here, from a black advocate's perspective, DEI is only about black people, until someone reminds them otherwise.)

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Anonymous wrote:Bi-racial family here. I think the DEI movement has simply gone too far.

-There are some DEI initiatives in my child's school that are great such as commitment to read diverse authors and in school author readings from diverse authors.
-Other initiatives just do not seem age appropriate too me. Huge emphasis on pronouns in 5th grade and how everyone has to be aware of when a person changes their pronouns.
-A day of silence at school to show solidarity with LGBTQ students. I'm sorry I don't pay money for my children to go to school and be silent.
-Celebration of MLK day is great and I love the idea of honoring the day with guest speaker or lecture but this year almost the entire day was taken up with MLK activities and there was no time for real academics. There has to be a balance

I'm sure you're a white woman married to a black man.

What’s wrong with white women marrying black men?

It means that racism isn't completely absent. Instances of racism exist within interracial marriages, white people will always biases and prejudices that may affect their relationships and children, which stem from societal influences, family expectations, and personal experiences.

Now interracial marriage is racist?

DEI revels in Dr. Seuss logic like this.

Whoops, should have offered a trigger warning for "Dr. Seuss"

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Anonymous wrote:This is what I love about intense DEI advocates -- Apparently only white people are influenced by biases and external expectations.

Black people, presumably, always think rationally and perfectly objectively.

No one has ever written this.

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Anonymous wrote:This is what I love about intense DEI advocates -- Apparently only white people are influenced by biases and external expectations.

Black people, presumably, always think rationally and perfectly objectively.

No one has ever written this.

LOL. It's right there in the post I replied to.

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Anonymous wrote:This is what I love about intense DEI advocates -- Apparently only white people are influenced by biases and external expectations.

Black people, presumably, always think rationally and perfectly objectively.

No one has ever written this.

That's exactly what the person PP is responding to said. Only white people have biases and prejudices from family, culture etc. Everyone else grows up in some sort of vacuum? What else could this possibly mean?

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Anonymous wrote:Bi-racial family here. I think the DEI movement has simply gone too far.

-There are some DEI initiatives in my child's school that are great such as commitment to read diverse authors and in school author readings from diverse authors.
-Other initiatives just do not seem age appropriate too me. Huge emphasis on pronouns in 5th grade and how everyone has to be aware of when a person changes their pronouns.
-A day of silence at school to show solidarity with LGBTQ students. I'm sorry I don't pay money for my children to go to school and be silent.
-Celebration of MLK day is great and I love the idea of honoring the day with guest speaker or lecture but this year almost the entire day was taken up with MLK activities and there was no time for real academics. There has to be a balance

I'm sure you're a white woman married to a black man.

It means that racism isn't completely absent. Instances of racism exist within interracial marriages, white people will always biases and prejudices that may affect their relationships and children, which stem from societal influences, family expectations, and personal experiences.

Now interracial marriage is racist?

She's saying the white peoples' opinions on things like education are always invalid and unwelcome. Even in marriage, but also on DCUM where pp regrettably tried to post her opinion on education.

Then pp came on to say she's not white.