Trump is blocking a border deal in the Senate

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Attempting to suggest Christianity requires open borders is absurd. The rule of law matters.

Jesus was not a man's rule follower. He was a rule breaker, which is part of why the Pharisees hated Him. He followed God's rules, not man's rules. Borders are man made.


And yes, Jesus would've been for open borders; He was a socialist. He told people to take care of children, and to love your neighbor. That doesn't mean Joe from next door. It means people; love people. He said to welcome the foreigners.

https://www.borderperspective.org/blog/what-does-the-bible-say-about-welcoming-immigrants

Having stated that, I am not for open borders. But, that doesn't mean that I want children to be separated from their parents or kids to drown on a perilous journey. How horrible must their lives be for the parents to risk their lives trying to cross that border. I also don't malign them as being all rapists and murderers, or that they are poisoning the blood of this country. You forget that this country is made up of immigrants, legal or otherwise.

Jesus didn’t tell people to give their money to the government so the government could redistribute it.

Jesus had no political party and only cared about His Father’s kingdom.

Bullshit. Jesus was part of the Jewish zealot movement.

[Anonymous]

this is going to be a problem for the GOP and Lankford knows it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why is immigration bad? A lot of the people coming here from other places are better than a lot of the people born here.

One thing’s sure for sure. They’re harder workers.

Don’t know yet. Pay Americans proper wages and you may get harder workers.

Keep exploiting migrants and it seems worth it. Legalize these people and you will have to pay them more which then brings us back to paying Americans proper wages. So let’s close the border and skip to the part where we pay people appropriately.

And then you'll be complaining about price hikes.

Well sure but that’s what’s always been at the end of this tunnel. Paying people appropriately whether they are legal migrants with protections or Americans.

You know that if we ‘solve’ this problem, prices will go up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why is immigration bad? A lot of the people coming here from other places are better than a lot of the people born here.

One thing’s sure for sure. They’re harder workers.

Don’t know yet. Pay Americans proper wages and you may get harder workers.

Keep exploiting migrants and it seems worth it. Legalize these people and you will have to pay them more which then brings us back to paying Americans proper wages. So let’s close the border and skip to the part where we pay people appropriately.

Hmm, which party has been promoting the wage increases and higher minimum wage?

But then why would that same party continue to allow exploited migrants that subvert any of those efforts.

They’re trying to improve the immigration system but the GOP is sitting on its hands while screaming about a crisis.

Their current deal is trying to enshrine illegal immigration into policy. Sorry no thanks.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is immigration bad? A lot of the people coming here from other places are better than a lot of the people born here.

One thing’s sure for sure. They’re harder workers.

Don’t know yet. Pay Americans proper wages and you may get harder workers.

Keep exploiting migrants and it seems worth it. Legalize these people and you will have to pay them more which then brings us back to paying Americans proper wages. So let’s close the border and skip to the part where we pay people appropriately.

Hmm, which party has been promoting the wage increases and higher minimum wage?

But then why would that same party continue to allow exploited migrants that subvert any of those efforts.

They’re trying to improve the immigration system but the GOP is sitting on its hands while screaming about a crisis.

Their current deal is trying to enshrine illegal immigration into policy. Sorry no thanks.

As confirmed by Republican Senator Lankford, this talking point is total BS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is immigration bad? A lot of the people coming here from other places are better than a lot of the people born here.

One thing’s sure for sure. They’re harder workers.

Don’t know yet. Pay Americans proper wages and you may get harder workers.

Keep exploiting migrants and it seems worth it. Legalize these people and you will have to pay them more which then brings us back to paying Americans proper wages. So let’s close the border and skip to the part where we pay people appropriately.

Hmm, which party has been promoting the wage increases and higher minimum wage?

But then why would that same party continue to allow exploited migrants that subvert any of those efforts.

They’re trying to improve the immigration system but the GOP is sitting on its hands while screaming about a crisis.

Their current deal is trying to enshrine illegal immigration into policy. Sorry no thanks.

As confirmed by Republican Senator Lankford, this talking point is total BS.

DP.
I don't agree with Lankford on this issue. There is no way in hell that normalizing illegal immigration at the rate they are proposing does anything to improve illegal immigration. In fact, it would probably make things worse. Once migrants hear there is a daily quota, they will rush the border in the early morning hours to get in. Not a good plan at all.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is immigration bad? A lot of the people coming here from other places are better than a lot of the people born here.

One thing’s sure for sure. They’re harder workers.

Don’t know yet. Pay Americans proper wages and you may get harder workers.

Keep exploiting migrants and it seems worth it. Legalize these people and you will have to pay them more which then brings us back to paying Americans proper wages. So let’s close the border and skip to the part where we pay people appropriately.

Hmm, which party has been promoting the wage increases and higher minimum wage?

But then why would that same party continue to allow exploited migrants that subvert any of those efforts.

They’re trying to improve the immigration system but the GOP is sitting on its hands while screaming about a crisis.

Their current deal is trying to enshrine illegal immigration into policy. Sorry no thanks.

As confirmed by Republican Senator Lankford, this talking point is total BS.

Have you seen the reporting on this deal?

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/26/politics/senate-deal-shutdown-border/index.html

“Under the soon-to-be-released package, the Department of Homeland Security would be granted new emergency authority to shut down the border if daily average migrant encounters reach 4,000 over a one-week span. If migrant crossings increase above 5,000 on average per day on a given week, DHS would be required to close the border to migrants crossing illegally not entering at ports of entry. Certain migrants would be allowed to stay if they prove to be fleeing torture or persecution in their countries.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:this is going to be a problem for the GOP and Lankford knows it.

Yup

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Attempting to suggest Christianity requires open borders is absurd. The rule of law matters.

Jesus was not a man's rule follower. He was a rule breaker, which is part of why the Pharisees hated Him. He followed God's rules, not man's rules. Borders are man made.


And yes, Jesus would've been for open borders; He was a socialist. He told people to take care of children, and to love your neighbor. That doesn't mean Joe from next door. It means people; love people. He said to welcome the foreigners.

https://www.borderperspective.org/blog/what-does-the-bible-say-about-welcoming-immigrants

Having stated that, I am not for open borders. But, that doesn't mean that I want children to be separated from their parents or kids to drown on a perilous journey. How horrible must their lives be for the parents to risk their lives trying to cross that border. I also don't malign them as being all rapists and murderers, or that they are poisoning the blood of this country. You forget that this country is made up of immigrants, legal or otherwise.

Jesus didn’t tell people to give their money to the government so the government could redistribute it.

Jesus had no political party and only cared about His Father’s kingdom.

Bullshit. Jesus was part of the Jewish zealot movement.

In the New Testament, one of the disciples of Jesus Christ was named Simon the Zealot (Matthew 10:4; Mark 3:18; Luke 6:15; Acts 1:13).

The Zealots were members of a first-century political movement among Judean Jews who sought to overthrow the occupying Roman government. The word zealot derives from the Greek zelotes, meaning “emulator or (zealous) follower.”

According to the Jewish historian Josephus, three main Jewish groups existed at the time of Christ—the Pharisees, the Sadducees, and the Essenes. He also mentions a fourth group called the Zealots who were founded by Judas of Galilee and Zadok the Pharisee. Josephus notes that the Zealots “agree in all other things with the Pharisaic notions; but they have an inviolable attachment to liberty, and say that God is to be their only Ruler and Lord" (Antiquities 18.1.6).

Of importance in New Testament history, the Zealots led a rebellion when Rome introduced imperial cult worship. The Great Jewish Revolt began in A.D. 66. The Zealots successfully overtook Jerusalem, but their revolt was ultimately unsuccessful. In A.D. 70, the Romans destroyed the city of Jerusalem and the temple. A remnant of the Zealots then took refuge in Masada.

https://www.gotquestions.org/Zealots-Bible.html

You are factually incorrect and an utter moron.

[Anonymous]

The GOP already saw the consequences of repealing abortion rights. They can’t afford to
lose the border too as a wedge issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is immigration bad? A lot of the people coming here from other places are better than a lot of the people born here.

One thing’s sure for sure. They’re harder workers.

Don’t know yet. Pay Americans proper wages and you may get harder workers.

Keep exploiting migrants and it seems worth it. Legalize these people and you will have to pay them more which then brings us back to paying Americans proper wages. So let’s close the border and skip to the part where we pay people appropriately.

Hmm, which party has been promoting the wage increases and higher minimum wage?

But then why would that same party continue to allow exploited migrants that subvert any of those efforts.

They’re trying to improve the immigration system but the GOP is sitting on its hands while screaming about a crisis.

Their current deal is trying to enshrine illegal immigration into policy. Sorry no thanks.

If you make it legal, it’s no longer illegal immigration, genius.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is immigration bad? A lot of the people coming here from other places are better than a lot of the people born here.

One thing’s sure for sure. They’re harder workers.

Don’t know yet. Pay Americans proper wages and you may get harder workers.

Keep exploiting migrants and it seems worth it. Legalize these people and you will have to pay them more which then brings us back to paying Americans proper wages. So let’s close the border and skip to the part where we pay people appropriately.

Hmm, which party has been promoting the wage increases and higher minimum wage?

But then why would that same party continue to allow exploited migrants that subvert any of those efforts.

They’re trying to improve the immigration system but the GOP is sitting on its hands while screaming about a crisis.

Their current deal is trying to enshrine illegal immigration into policy. Sorry no thanks.

If you make it legal, it’s no longer illegal immigration, genius.

And, the goal of this administration is to make it all "legal." Through the abuse of parole. And, now trying to make a "deal" that normalizes up to 5000 a day.
Nope.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is immigration bad? A lot of the people coming here from other places are better than a lot of the people born here.

One thing’s sure for sure. They’re harder workers.

Don’t know yet. Pay Americans proper wages and you may get harder workers.

Keep exploiting migrants and it seems worth it. Legalize these people and you will have to pay them more which then brings us back to paying Americans proper wages. So let’s close the border and skip to the part where we pay people appropriately.

Hmm, which party has been promoting the wage increases and higher minimum wage?

But then why would that same party continue to allow exploited migrants that subvert any of those efforts.

They’re trying to improve the immigration system but the GOP is sitting on its hands while screaming about a crisis.

Their current deal is trying to enshrine illegal immigration into policy. Sorry no thanks.

If you make it legal, it’s no longer illegal immigration, genius.

It doesn’t say anything about pathways to legal status. It just refers to crossing numbers. Still illegal. This would be the threshold to do anything about it. Point stands.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Attempting to suggest Christianity requires open borders is absurd. The rule of law matters.

Jesus was not a man's rule follower. He was a rule breaker, which is part of why the Pharisees hated Him. He followed God's rules, not man's rules. Borders are man made.


And yes, Jesus would've been for open borders; He was a socialist. He told people to take care of children, and to love your neighbor. That doesn't mean Joe from next door. It means people; love people. He said to welcome the foreigners.

https://www.borderperspective.org/blog/what-does-the-bible-say-about-welcoming-immigrants

Having stated that, I am not for open borders. But, that doesn't mean that I want children to be separated from their parents or kids to drown on a perilous journey. How horrible must their lives be for the parents to risk their lives trying to cross that border. I also don't malign them as being all rapists and murderers, or that they are poisoning the blood of this country. You forget that this country is made up of immigrants, legal or otherwise.

Jesus didn’t tell people to give their money to the government so the government could redistribute it.

Jesus had no political party and only cared about His Father’s kingdom.

Bullshit. Jesus was part of the Jewish zealot movement.

In the New Testament, one of the disciples of Jesus Christ was named Simon the Zealot (Matthew 10:4; Mark 3:18; Luke 6:15; Acts 1:13).

The Zealots were members of a first-century political movement among Judean Jews who sought to overthrow the occupying Roman government. The word zealot derives from the Greek zelotes, meaning “emulator or (zealous) follower.”

According to the Jewish historian Josephus, three main Jewish groups existed at the time of Christ—the Pharisees, the Sadducees, and the Essenes. He also mentions a fourth group called the Zealots who were founded by Judas of Galilee and Zadok the Pharisee. Josephus notes that the Zealots “agree in all other things with the Pharisaic notions; but they have an inviolable attachment to liberty, and say that God is to be their only Ruler and Lord" (Antiquities 18.1.6).

Of importance in New Testament history, the Zealots led a rebellion when Rome introduced imperial cult worship. The Great Jewish Revolt began in A.D. 66. The Zealots successfully overtook Jerusalem, but their revolt was ultimately unsuccessful. In A.D. 70, the Romans destroyed the city of Jerusalem and the temple. A remnant of the Zealots then took refuge in Masada.

https://www.gotquestions.org/Zealots-Bible.html

You are factually incorrect and an utter moron.

Nothing you’ve written contradicts what I said. Judas was kicking around Galilee at about the time Jesus was born there.

Or maybe you believe that nonsense about Jesus being born in Bethlehem because of some Rube Goldberg Roman tax scheme that Luke & Matthew invented to shoe horn him into a King David prophecy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:this is going to be a problem for the GOP and Lankford knows it.

Yup

Nope. Biden has f'ed up the border and we have seen the ramifications for 3 years now.
A really bad "deal" that is rejected by reasonable people in an election year ain't gonna change that.