Trump is blocking a border deal in the Senate

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If the Republicans thought it was a crisis, they’d take action. Even if they had to compromise. Because that’s what you do when something is urgent and important.


Allowing in 5000 A DAY is not compromise. It is insanity.

This is from Speaker Johnson:

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Straight from the Orange Horse’s mouth, stating that it’s purely political:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/01/27/trump-border-biden/



What is stopping Biden from securing the border right now? He isn't asking for more enforcement authority in the bill. He's asking for $ for the processing side of the house. Meaning that when people come through the border, they go through a DMV like process to be let into the interior. He wants to expand that capability. This won't stem the crisis. It will accelerate it.

Biden tried to limit migrants seeking asylum, but was blocked by the courts: https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/25/politics/biden-asylum-court-ruling/index.html


He has a variety of other tools he could use. They have been listed in various threads on this topic.
Biden has no intention of securing the border. Allow 5000 migrants A DAY is NOT securing the border. Maybe he should have a chat with Obama to see how he did a better job of managing illegal immigration.


Most of the "other tools" involve things like Title 42 which was taken off the table because it was dependent on the pandemic and has since expired.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Straight from the Orange Horse’s mouth, stating that it’s purely political:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/01/27/trump-border-biden/



What is stopping Biden from securing the border right now? He isn't asking for more enforcement authority in the bill. He's asking for $ for the processing side of the house. Meaning that when people come through the border, they go through a DMV like process to be let into the interior. He wants to expand that capability. This won't stem the crisis. It will accelerate it.

Biden tried to limit migrants seeking asylum, but was blocked by the courts: https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/25/politics/biden-asylum-court-ruling/index.html


He has a variety of other tools he could use. They have been listed in various threads on this topic.
Biden has no intention of securing the border. Allow 5000 migrants A DAY is NOT securing the border. Maybe he should have a chat with Obama to see how he did a better job of managing illegal immigration.

You’re just repeating MAGA propaganda. Zero credibility.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Straight from the Orange Horse’s mouth, stating that it’s purely political:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/01/27/trump-border-biden/



What is stopping Biden from securing the border right now? He isn't asking for more enforcement authority in the bill. He's asking for $ for the processing side of the house. Meaning that when people come through the border, they go through a DMV like process to be let into the interior. He wants to expand that capability. This won't stem the crisis. It will accelerate it.

Pull your head out of your nether regions and use some critical thinking.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Biden and Dems did nothing on the border for the last three years. If anything, they went out of their way to oppose any form of border control. Blocking Texas and Arizona from doing anything.

Why would anyone trust Biden and the Dems on the border?

Rs and Trump did nothing about reforming immigration when they were in power. Nor did they do anything about increasing fines for hiring illegals, which is the #1 reason most of them come here. Why don't they push for increasing fines? Because most of the companies that hire them are owned by Rs - farms, landscaping, construction. They want low taxes and cheap labor.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Attempting to suggest Christianity requires open borders is absurd. The rule of law matters.

Jesus was not a man's rule follower. He was a rule breaker, which is part of why the Pharisees hated Him. He followed God's rules, not man's rules. Borders are man made.


And yes, Jesus would've been for open borders; He was a socialist. He told people to take care of children, and to love your neighbor. That doesn't mean Joe from next door. It means people; love people. He said to welcome the foreigners.

https://www.borderperspective.org/blog/what-does-the-bible-say-about-welcoming-immigrants

Having stated that, I am not for open borders. But, that doesn't mean that I want children to be separated from their parents or kids to drown on a perilous journey. How horrible must their lives be for the parents to risk their lives trying to cross that border. I also don't malign them as being all rapists and murderers, or that they are poisoning the blood of this country. You forget that this country is made up of immigrants, legal or otherwise.
Anonymous
Why is immigration bad? A lot of the people coming here from other places are better than a lot of the people born here.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why is immigration bad? A lot of the people coming here from other places are better than a lot of the people born here.


One thing’s sure for sure. They’re harder workers.
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Anonymous wrote:Why is immigration bad? A lot of the people coming here from other places are better than a lot of the people born here.


One thing’s sure for sure. They’re harder workers.

Don’t know yet. Pay Americans proper wages and you may get harder workers.

Keep exploiting migrants and it seems worth it. Legalize these people and you will have to pay them more which then brings us back to paying Americans proper wages. So let’s close the border and skip to the part where we pay people appropriately.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why is immigration bad? A lot of the people coming here from other places are better than a lot of the people born here.


One thing’s sure for sure. They’re harder workers.

Don’t know yet. Pay Americans proper wages and you may get harder workers.

Keep exploiting migrants and it seems worth it. Legalize these people and you will have to pay them more which then brings us back to paying Americans proper wages. So let’s close the border and skip to the part where we pay people appropriately.


Hmm, which party has been promoting the wage increases and higher minimum wage?
Anonymous
If you disagree with this guy, then you understand that the MAGA GOP is not your dad's GOP.

He is absolutely right.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why is immigration bad? A lot of the people coming here from other places are better than a lot of the people born here.


One thing’s sure for sure. They’re harder workers.

Don’t know yet. Pay Americans proper wages and you may get harder workers.

Keep exploiting migrants and it seems worth it. Legalize these people and you will have to pay them more which then brings us back to paying Americans proper wages. So let’s close the border and skip to the part where we pay people appropriately.


Hmm, which party has been promoting the wage increases and higher minimum wage?

But then why would that same party continue to allow exploited migrants that subvert any of those efforts.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Attempting to suggest Christianity requires open borders is absurd. The rule of law matters.

Jesus was not a man's rule follower. He was a rule breaker, which is part of why the Pharisees hated Him. He followed God's rules, not man's rules. Borders are man made.


And yes, Jesus would've been for open borders; He was a socialist. He told people to take care of children, and to love your neighbor. That doesn't mean Joe from next door. It means people; love people. He said to welcome the foreigners.

https://www.borderperspective.org/blog/what-does-the-bible-say-about-welcoming-immigrants

Having stated that, I am not for open borders. But, that doesn't mean that I want children to be separated from their parents or kids to drown on a perilous journey. How horrible must their lives be for the parents to risk their lives trying to cross that border. I also don't malign them as being all rapists and murderers, or that they are poisoning the blood of this country. You forget that this country is made up of immigrants, legal or otherwise.


Jesus didn’t tell people to give their money to the government so the government could redistribute it.

Jesus had no political party and only cared about His Father’s kingdom.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why is immigration bad? A lot of the people coming here from other places are better than a lot of the people born here.


One thing’s sure for sure. They’re harder workers.

Don’t know yet. Pay Americans proper wages and you may get harder workers.

Keep exploiting migrants and it seems worth it. Legalize these people and you will have to pay them more which then brings us back to paying Americans proper wages. So let’s close the border and skip to the part where we pay people appropriately.


And then you'll be complaining about price hikes.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why is immigration bad? A lot of the people coming here from other places are better than a lot of the people born here.


One thing’s sure for sure. They’re harder workers.

Don’t know yet. Pay Americans proper wages and you may get harder workers.

Keep exploiting migrants and it seems worth it. Legalize these people and you will have to pay them more which then brings us back to paying Americans proper wages. So let’s close the border and skip to the part where we pay people appropriately.


Hmm, which party has been promoting the wage increases and higher minimum wage?

But then why would that same party continue to allow exploited migrants that subvert any of those efforts.


They’re trying to improve the immigration system but the GOP is sitting on its hands while screaming about a crisis.
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