Saturday - Thousands expected to attend pro-Palestine march in DC for ceasefire in Israel-Hamas war

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So why was this allowed to get out of hand.

Protesters climbed the White House fence. They stray painted monuments and put red pain lt all over the White House Walls.

Why allow this as it will only get worse. I would think anyone climbing the White House fence should be immediate shot or arrested.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12711815/amp/Antisemitic-vandalism-capital-thousands-protesters-DC.html

Nobody gets arrested unless it’s a Federal set-up like J6.

J6 was not a "federal set-up" you insane a-hole.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, it's OK now to scale the white house gate and vandalize? The new normal? Just asking.

Look, I’m not anti-Israel and pro-Jewish extermination so wouldn’t have been welcomed at the rally, but violating the boundaries of the White House seems much more restrained than rioting in the Capitol and attempting to overthrow an election. Not a fan of either but the latter seems infinitely more egregious. Think the “new normal” of lawlessness under Trump has opened the floodgates for all, sadly.

DP. As an aside I agree with you - this protest was more notable for its embrace of an antisemitic foreign policy goal as well as likely being funded by foreign governments. But the actual conduct of the protest was very well organized and with message discipline (ensuring that overt anti-semitism was minimized.) Ironically the chaos of Jan 6 bespeaks a lack of organizing coupled with intense propaganda manipulation - Trump literally incited an insane mob. I hope never to see something like that again.

That’s quite a definition of “minimized.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So why was this allowed to get out of hand.

Protesters climbed the White House fence. They stray painted monuments and put red pain lt all over the White House Walls.

Why allow this as it will only get worse. I would think anyone climbing the White House fence should be immediate shot or arrested.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12711815/amp/Antisemitic-vandalism-capital-thousands-protesters-DC.html

I’m impressed with the restraint, calm, and training of the snipers on top of the White House.

[Anonymous]

I've participated in many a protest. When you are in a safe, freedom of speech setting like, you know, America--nasty, undisciplined displays don't endear me, no matter the cause. It's like, oh yay, antifa.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So why was this allowed to get out of hand.

Protesters climbed the White House fence. They stray painted monuments and put red pain lt all over the White House Walls.

Why allow this as it will only get worse. I would think anyone climbing the White House fence should be immediate shot or arrested.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12711815/amp/Antisemitic-vandalism-capital-thousands-protesters-DC.html

Not to mention spray painting “death to Israel” all over DC building. Yeah, how the hell is this allowed….

Wrecking Lafayette Park. Totally missing the ENTIRE POINT of Lafayette? Palestinian protestors and allies are absolutely tone-deaf and their own worst enemies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, it's OK now to scale the white house gate and vandalize? The new normal? Just asking.

Look, I’m not anti-Israel and pro-Jewish extermination so wouldn’t have been welcomed at the rally, but violating the boundaries of the White House seems much more restrained than rioting in the Capitol and attempting to overthrow an election. Not a fan of either but the latter seems infinitely more egregious. Think the “new normal” of lawlessness under Trump has opened the floodgates for all, sadly.

DP. As an aside I agree with you - this protest was more notable for its embrace of an antisemitic foreign policy goal as well as likely being funded by foreign governments. But the actual conduct of the protest was very well organized and with message discipline (ensuring that overt anti-semitism was minimized.) Ironically the chaos of Jan 6 bespeaks a lack of organizing coupled with intense propaganda manipulation - Trump literally incited an insane mob. I hope never to see something like that again.

That’s quite a definition of “minimized.”

Yeah I know but it could have been much worse. There was obvious message discipline here to ensure that “from the river to the sea” was the extent of it (with of course the *coincidental* high profile efforts of Rep Tlaib to sanitize the phrase happening at the exact same time). A committee sat down and decided just how far to go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have an idea. They should call for Hamas to release the hostages, which would instantly end the hostilities.

It would certainly be a step in the right direction, but it wouldn't end the way instantly. Hamas still needs to be rooted out

[Anonymous]

I’ve been reading the news coverage of the protest and no mention of antisemitism in the mainstream press (cnn, NYT, Washington post, NPR, The Hill). Just in the Daily Mail (link in PP above) Fox and the Guardian.

Was anyone on this thread actually at the event and would share what they saw?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, it's OK now to scale the white house gate and vandalize? The new normal? Just asking.

Look, I’m not anti-Israel and pro-Jewish extermination so wouldn’t have been welcomed at the rally, but violating the boundaries of the White House seems much more restrained than rioting in the Capitol and attempting to overthrow an election. Not a fan of either but the latter seems infinitely more egregious. Think the “new normal” of lawlessness under Trump has opened the floodgates for all, sadly.

DP. As an aside I agree with you - this protest was more notable for its embrace of an antisemitic foreign policy goal as well as likely being funded by foreign governments. But the actual conduct of the protest was very well organized and with message discipline (ensuring that overt anti-semitism was minimized.) Ironically the chaos of Jan 6 bespeaks a lack of organizing coupled with intense propaganda manipulation - Trump literally incited an insane mob. I hope never to see something like that again.

That’s quite a definition of “minimized.”

Did you see a collection of swastikas or neo Nazi symbols such as some have reported at the London March for example? Or shouts to eliminate Jews? I am not talking about “river to the sea” and other chants that people disagree on, but “kill the Jews” which sort of stands on its own. Those are the things that were hopefully avoided.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have an idea. They should call for Hamas to release the hostages, which would instantly end the hostilities.

It would certainly be a step in the right direction, but it wouldn't end the way instantly. Hamas still needs to be rooted out

The protest was not organized to call for the release of the hostages. It was organized to draw attention to the suffering of the Palestinian people and call for a cease - fire.

There are many other ways the attention has been on the hostages (the posters, profiles on network TV, politicians statements, etc etc).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, it's OK now to scale the white house gate and vandalize? The new normal? Just asking.

Look, I’m not anti-Israel and pro-Jewish extermination so wouldn’t have been welcomed at the rally, but violating the boundaries of the White House seems much more restrained than rioting in the Capitol and attempting to overthrow an election. Not a fan of either but the latter seems infinitely more egregious. Think the “new normal” of lawlessness under Trump has opened the floodgates for all, sadly.

DP. As an aside I agree with you - this protest was more notable for its embrace of an antisemitic foreign policy goal as well as likely being funded by foreign governments. But the actual conduct of the protest was very well organized and with message discipline (ensuring that overt anti-semitism was minimized.) Ironically the chaos of Jan 6 bespeaks a lack of organizing coupled with intense propaganda manipulation - Trump literally incited an insane mob. I hope never to see something like that again.

That’s quite a definition of “minimized.”

Did you see a collection of swastikas or neo Nazi symbols such as some have reported at the London March for example? Or shouts to eliminate Jews? I am not talking about “river to the sea” and other chants that people disagree on, but “kill the Jews” which sort of stands on its own. Those are the things that were hopefully avoided.

There are photos of red paint on the white house perimeter walls and that Lafeyette Park which is the nation's park was trashed. I find that offensive. I also didn't like when the aliens blew up the White House in Independence Day. These iconic buildings were targets on 9/11. Maybe offending me was the point if this display? The protestors succeeded. I dislike them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’ve been reading the news coverage of the protest and no mention of antisemitism in the mainstream press (cnn, NYT, Washington post, NPR, The Hill). Just in the Daily Mail (link in PP above) Fox and the Guardian.

Was anyone on this thread actually at the event and would share what they saw?

It was a very large global event so no one can speak definitively about what happened everywhere.

In DC, it was mostly young people who are horrified by the slaughter in Gaza and called for a ceasefire. They are very upset and don’t understand “blind” support for Israel’s extensive bombing. They see helpless people who have been denied many rights for a long time, who are trapped and being starved and attacked with weapons the U.S. provided.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’ve been reading the news coverage of the protest and no mention of antisemitism in the mainstream press (cnn, NYT, Washington post, NPR, The Hill). Just in the Daily Mail (link in PP above) Fox and the Guardian.

Was anyone on this thread actually at the event and would share what they saw?

I was there from 3-5:30. I saw people of all colors (including many self-identified Jewish people), families with young children, calling for an end to the wanton bombing and for Biden to stop supporting this with our tax dollars. It was extremely peaceful, and I never heard anyone speak against Jews or praise Hamas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, it's OK now to scale the white house gate and vandalize? The new normal? Just asking.

Look, I’m not anti-Israel and pro-Jewish extermination so wouldn’t have been welcomed at the rally, but violating the boundaries of the White House seems much more restrained than rioting in the Capitol and attempting to overthrow an election. Not a fan of either but the latter seems infinitely more egregious. Think the “new normal” of lawlessness under Trump has opened the floodgates for all, sadly.

DP. As an aside I agree with you - this protest was more notable for its embrace of an antisemitic foreign policy goal as well as likely being funded by foreign governments. But the actual conduct of the protest was very well organized and with message discipline (ensuring that overt anti-semitism was minimized.) Ironically the chaos of Jan 6 bespeaks a lack of organizing coupled with intense propaganda manipulation - Trump literally incited an insane mob. I hope never to see something like that again.

That’s quite a definition of “minimized.”

Did you see a collection of swastikas or neo Nazi symbols such as some have reported at the London March for example? Or shouts to eliminate Jews? I am not talking about “river to the sea” and other chants that people disagree on, but “kill the Jews” which sort of stands on its own. Those are the things that were hopefully avoided.

There are photos of red paint on the white house perimeter walls and that Lafeyette Park which is the nation's park was trashed. I find that offensive. I also didn't like when the aliens blew up the White House in Independence Day. These iconic buildings were targets on 9/11. Maybe offending me was the point if this display? The protestors succeeded. I dislike them.

+1

The protestors have also effectively neutralized Democratic use of 1/6 footage as anti-Trump campaign material and for that I dislike them as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have an idea. They should call for Hamas to release the hostages, which would instantly end the hostilities.

It would certainly be a step in the right direction, but it wouldn't end the way instantly. Hamas still needs to be rooted out

The protest was not organized to call for the release of the hostages. It was organized to draw attention to the suffering of the Palestinian people and call for a cease - fire.

There are many other ways the attention has been on the hostages (the posters, profiles on network TV, politicians statements, etc etc).

And a ceasefire isn't going to happen without the release of hostages. The call for the return of the hostages and hostage awareness needs to come from within, not just from Jewish sources. It can be part of the call for a ceasefire, rather than an unconditional call, which is mostly what I've seen.