Matthew perry died

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Anonymous wrote:I'm sure the toxicology report will come back that he relapsed. So sad. So many people struggle with addiction.

Yeah, he attended rehab 15 times and it never stuck. In his final Insta posts, he seemed happy. Happy and high. He had plenty of prescription drugs in the house.

You suck, pp

PP was just stating facts.

+1 some posters clearly have never known addicts. It is a brutal, brutal disease. My addict brother’s heart stopped in his sleep after he accidentally took too many prescription pills. His autopsy report was the same: deferred pending toxicology report. We were not surprised by the final results. The medical examiner could have finalized the report with cardiac damage/event if that’s what it was.

That is a drug overdose, and no one really knows if it was accidental or intentional .

I am sorry for your loss.

We will know soon enough, no need to speculate.

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Anonymous wrote:This is also just a reminder to never go swimming or hot tubbing alone.

This. MP gave us a sad opportunity to learn (or be reminded of) an important lesson.

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Anonymous wrote:The cast released a statement via People:

“We are all so utterly devastated by the loss of Matthew. We were more than just cast mates. We are a family," their statement reads. "There is so much to say, but right now we’re going to take a moment to grieve and process this unfathomable loss."
"In time we will say more, as and when we are able," the statement continues. "For now, our thoughts and our love are with Matty’s family, his friends, and everyone who loved him around the world."

Took them this long to say “we will say more” later? I see a special on the horizon with proceeds going to his charity.

What more is there to say, really? Since when do people who are not family or current business associates need to make any public statement at all? How do you read something like this and assume the people involved are busy hatching any plans of any kind?

Why are they saying they will say more? Why not a final statement and end it.

Move on. It's their grief to manage not yours.

I find their statement to very strange.

Everyone grieves differently. You have never been in their situation unless you're secretly like a Seinfeld cast member... for you to find it strange makes no sense.

When you give a condolence message it’s suppose to be final. Not, “we’ll talk about it later.”

And family? Really? Family gets together for birthdays and holidays. They didn’t do that except for the girls. Jen has Friendsgiving every year (minus COVID) the day before Thanksgiving and they are not all there. They are not family nor acct like it.

Mine doesn't. "Family" doesn't mean the same thing to everyone.

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Anonymous wrote:The cast released a statement via People:

“We are all so utterly devastated by the loss of Matthew. We were more than just cast mates. We are a family," their statement reads. "There is so much to say, but right now we’re going to take a moment to grieve and process this unfathomable loss."
"In time we will say more, as and when we are able," the statement continues. "For now, our thoughts and our love are with Matty’s family, his friends, and everyone who loved him around the world."

Took them this long to say “we will say more” later? I see a special on the horizon with proceeds going to his charity.

What more is there to say, really? Since when do people who are not family or current business associates need to make any public statement at all? How do you read something like this and assume the people involved are busy hatching any plans of any kind?

Why are they saying they will say more? Why not a final statement and end it.

Move on. It's their grief to manage not yours.

I find their statement to very strange.

Everyone grieves differently. You have never been in their situation unless you're secretly like a Seinfeld cast member... for you to find it strange makes no sense.

When you give a condolence message it’s suppose to be final. Not, “we’ll talk about it later.”

And family? Really? Family gets together for birthdays and holidays. They didn’t do that except for the girls. Jen has Friendsgiving every year (minus COVID) the day before Thanksgiving and they are not all there. They are not family nor acct like it.

Mine doesn't. "Family" doesn't mean the same thing to everyone.

Only see everyone twice in 20 years is a sad thing to call family. Understandable if you live in countries apart and countries that don’t allow freedom of travel.

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Anonymous wrote:The cast released a statement via People:

“We are all so utterly devastated by the loss of Matthew. We were more than just cast mates. We are a family," their statement reads. "There is so much to say, but right now we’re going to take a moment to grieve and process this unfathomable loss."
"In time we will say more, as and when we are able," the statement continues. "For now, our thoughts and our love are with Matty’s family, his friends, and everyone who loved him around the world."

Took them this long to say “we will say more” later? I see a special on the horizon with proceeds going to his charity.

What more is there to say, really? Since when do people who are not family or current business associates need to make any public statement at all? How do you read something like this and assume the people involved are busy hatching any plans of any kind?

Why are they saying they will say more? Why not a final statement and end it.

Move on. It's their grief to manage not yours.

I find their statement to very strange.

Everyone grieves differently. You have never been in their situation unless you're secretly like a Seinfeld cast member... for you to find it strange makes no sense.

When you give a condolence message it’s suppose to be final. Not, “we’ll talk about it later.”

And family? Really? Family gets together for birthdays and holidays. They didn’t do that except for the girls. Jen has Friendsgiving every year (minus COVID) the day before Thanksgiving and they are not all there. They are not family nor acct like it.

Mine doesn't. "Family" doesn't mean the same thing to everyone.

Only see everyone twice in 20 years is a sad thing to call family. Understandable if you live in countries apart and countries that don’t allow freedom of travel.

Where do you get the idea that they only saw each other twice in 20 years? It sounds obvious to me that they have seen each other more than that.

But anyway, not everyone has the same idea of family and Perry had a debilitating addiction and that makes relationships very hard. I have a sibling who is an addict and I see him very sporadically. I often text or call him only to discover the number doesn't work anymore because he's let his phone plan lapse again. There was a time when I could maintain better contact because he was married and his wife was very stable, but his addiction and mental health issues destroyed that relationship and since they've been separated, it's very hard to stay in touch.

If you have never had someone like this in your life, you may not get it. But it's possible to love someone and consider them family and not see them very often. Sometimes this is the only sort of relationship available with an addict.

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Anonymous wrote:The cast released a statement via People:

“We are all so utterly devastated by the loss of Matthew. We were more than just cast mates. We are a family," their statement reads. "There is so much to say, but right now we’re going to take a moment to grieve and process this unfathomable loss."
"In time we will say more, as and when we are able," the statement continues. "For now, our thoughts and our love are with Matty’s family, his friends, and everyone who loved him around the world."

Took them this long to say “we will say more” later? I see a special on the horizon with proceeds going to his charity.

What more is there to say, really? Since when do people who are not family or current business associates need to make any public statement at all? How do you read something like this and assume the people involved are busy hatching any plans of any kind?

Why are they saying they will say more? Why not a final statement and end it.

Move on. It's their grief to manage not yours.

I find their statement to very strange.

Everyone grieves differently. You have never been in their situation unless you're secretly like a Seinfeld cast member... for you to find it strange makes no sense.

When you give a condolence message it’s suppose to be final. Not, “we’ll talk about it later.”

And family? Really? Family gets together for birthdays and holidays. They didn’t do that except for the girls. Jen has Friendsgiving every year (minus COVID) the day before Thanksgiving and they are not all there. They are not family nor acct like it.

Mine doesn't. "Family" doesn't mean the same thing to everyone.

Only see everyone twice in 20 years is a sad thing to call family. Understandable if you live in countries apart and countries that don’t allow freedom of travel.

Where do you get the idea that they only saw each other twice in 20 years? It sounds obvious to me that they have seen each other more than that.

But anyway, not everyone has the same idea of family and Perry had a debilitating addiction and that makes relationships very hard. I have a sibling who is an addict and I see him very sporadically. I often text or call him only to discover the number doesn't work anymore because he's let his phone plan lapse again. There was a time when I could maintain better contact because he was married and his wife was very stable, but his addiction and mental health issues destroyed that relationship and since they've been separated, it's very hard to stay in touch.

If you have never had someone like this in your life, you may not get it. But it's possible to love someone and consider them family and not see them very often. Sometimes this is the only sort of relationship available with an addict.

In the reunion special it was mentioned the number of times they’ve all been together since the end of Friends.

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Anonymous wrote:The cast released a statement via People:

“We are all so utterly devastated by the loss of Matthew. We were more than just cast mates. We are a family," their statement reads. "There is so much to say, but right now we’re going to take a moment to grieve and process this unfathomable loss."
"In time we will say more, as and when we are able," the statement continues. "For now, our thoughts and our love are with Matty’s family, his friends, and everyone who loved him around the world."

Took them this long to say “we will say more” later? I see a special on the horizon with proceeds going to his charity.

What more is there to say, really? Since when do people who are not family or current business associates need to make any public statement at all? How do you read something like this and assume the people involved are busy hatching any plans of any kind?

Why are they saying they will say more? Why not a final statement and end it.

Move on. It's their grief to manage not yours.

I find their statement to very strange.

Everyone grieves differently. You have never been in their situation unless you're secretly like a Seinfeld cast member... for you to find it strange makes no sense.

When you give a condolence message it’s suppose to be final. Not, “we’ll talk about it later.”

And family? Really? Family gets together for birthdays and holidays. They didn’t do that except for the girls. Jen has Friendsgiving every year (minus COVID) the day before Thanksgiving and they are not all there. They are not family nor acct like it.

Mine doesn't. "Family" doesn't mean the same thing to everyone.

Only see everyone twice in 20 years is a sad thing to call family. Understandable if you live in countries apart and countries that don’t allow freedom of travel.

Where do you get the idea that they only saw each other twice in 20 years? It sounds obvious to me that they have seen each other more than that.

But anyway, not everyone has the same idea of family and Perry had a debilitating addiction and that makes relationships very hard. I have a sibling who is an addict and I see him very sporadically. I often text or call him only to discover the number doesn't work anymore because he's let his phone plan lapse again. There was a time when I could maintain better contact because he was married and his wife was very stable, but his addiction and mental health issues destroyed that relationship and since they've been separated, it's very hard to stay in touch.

If you have never had someone like this in your life, you may not get it. But it's possible to love someone and consider them family and not see them very often. Sometimes this is the only sort of relationship available with an addict.

Pretty sure they all knew where each lived if they wanted to see each other.

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Anonymous wrote:He was a talented guy for sure, but he was no schwimmer

Poor Schwimmer. No one is going to grieve like this when he dies.

Wow. How ugly of you to anticipate the reaction to someone's death like this. No, there won't be the level of public, fan posts "like this" for any of the other cast members of a long-ago sitcom. Perry's character was particularly loved and IRL, he apparently made real efforts to help other addicts. But your anticipatory comparison of grief over the deaths of people you don't know personally is shallow and ghoulish. Maybe watch fewer Friends reruns and get out of the house.

Stop calling everyone you disagree with “ghoulish”. You’ve done it multiple times on this thread and it is annoying. NP

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Anonymous wrote:I'm sure the toxicology report will come back that he relapsed. So sad. So many people struggle with addiction.

Yeah, he attended rehab 15 times and it never stuck. In his final Insta posts, he seemed happy. Happy and high. He had plenty of prescription drugs in the house.

You suck, pp

PP was just stating facts.

+1 some posters clearly have never known addicts. It is a brutal, brutal disease. My addict brother’s heart stopped in his sleep after he accidentally took too many prescription pills. His autopsy report was the same: deferred pending toxicology report. We were not surprised by the final results. The medical examiner could have finalized the report with cardiac damage/event if that’s what it was.

I agree. I have 3 family members with decades old substance issues (drinking and drugs). It’s incredible how people are romanticizing MP, probably based on his likable characters he portrayed on the screen. But none of the posters know him, and if he had been in rehab 15 times, he wasn’t immune to the character traits that are common to addicts: lying, manipulation, sneaking around, etc. His most recent fiancé even said she had to go to Al-Anon in order to deal with him, she finally broke it off with him after catching him communicating with a 19 year old on a dating app and that their break up was not amicable. He wasn’t Chandler Bing. He was a very sick person.

I really feel sorry for his parents.

MAYBE I can see a 19 year old with David, he still looks in shape and big MAYBE on LeBlanc, he’s gained some weight. BUT Perry? I just don’t see why a 19 year old would be attracted to him. I’m talking on-line hook ups.

The story was that they matched one another on Raya and started FaceTiming, which apparently the 19 year old recorded and then went public with. He was engaged at the time, so he was busted by his fiancé and it is why she broke up with him. The story has resurfaced now that he died.

Not particularly kind of the ex-fiancée to make a big deal of this immediately after his death, but I guess she wanted to make a quick buck.

Question - are they legally required to do a toxicology screen in deaths like these? Otherwise, I can’t imagine why the family would want to do this. I mean it’s not like they suspect murder right? Whether he was high or not, how does it affect anyone?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm sure the toxicology report will come back that he relapsed. So sad. So many people struggle with addiction.

Yeah, he attended rehab 15 times and it never stuck. In his final Insta posts, he seemed happy. Happy and high. He had plenty of prescription drugs in the house.

You suck, pp

PP was just stating facts.

+1 some posters clearly have never known addicts. It is a brutal, brutal disease. My addict brother’s heart stopped in his sleep after he accidentally took too many prescription pills. His autopsy report was the same: deferred pending toxicology report. We were not surprised by the final results. The medical examiner could have finalized the report with cardiac damage/event if that’s what it was.

I agree. I have 3 family members with decades old substance issues (drinking and drugs). It’s incredible how people are romanticizing MP, probably based on his likable characters he portrayed on the screen. But none of the posters know him, and if he had been in rehab 15 times, he wasn’t immune to the character traits that are common to addicts: lying, manipulation, sneaking around, etc. His most recent fiancé even said she had to go to Al-Anon in order to deal with him, she finally broke it off with him after catching him communicating with a 19 year old on a dating app and that their break up was not amicable. He wasn’t Chandler Bing. He was a very sick person.

I really feel sorry for his parents.

MAYBE I can see a 19 year old with David, he still looks in shape and big MAYBE on LeBlanc, he’s gained some weight. BUT Perry? I just don’t see why a 19 year old would be attracted to him. I’m talking on-line hook ups.

The story was that they matched one another on Raya and started FaceTiming, which apparently the 19 year old recorded and then went public with. He was engaged at the time, so he was busted by his fiancé and it is why she broke up with him. The story has resurfaced now that he died.

Not particularly kind of the ex-fiancée to make a big deal of this immediately after his death, but I guess she wanted to make a quick buck.

Question - are they legally required to do a toxicology screen in deaths like these? Otherwise, I can’t imagine why the family would want to do this. I mean it’s not like they suspect murder right? Whether he was high or not, how does it affect anyone?

The ex-finance isn’t the one that broke the story. The 19 yr old posted the video to Tik Tok or something like that when it happened a few years ago and it went viral and was news then. When MP died news outlets (like NYP) just republished it. Also excerpts from his memoir re how he didn’t remember even proposing to his ex-finance, how he didn’t want to marry her, how he didn’t want to live with her, etc also were republished.

Not sure why you place blame on ex-finance when it sounds like she went through he!! with him. Smh.

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Anonymous wrote:He was a talented guy for sure, but he was no schwimmer

Poor Schwimmer. No one is going to grieve like this when he dies.

Wow. How ugly of you to anticipate the reaction to someone's death like this. No, there won't be the level of public, fan posts "like this" for any of the other cast members of a long-ago sitcom. Perry's character was particularly loved and IRL, he apparently made real efforts to help other addicts. But your anticipatory comparison of grief over the deaths of people you don't know personally is shallow and ghoulish. Maybe watch fewer Friends reruns and get out of the house.

Stop calling everyone you disagree with “ghoulish”. You’ve done it multiple times on this thread and it is annoying. NP

NP and I, too, have used the word “ghoul” in this thread. Sorry you don’t like that word, but the use of it doesn’t make it a repeat poster. People might actually disagree with your viewpoint sometimes, I do hope you can come to accept that. If you prefer Tragedy Vulture, we can trot out that phrase, too. Words have meanings and you people who just love to speculate over the deaths of people you don’t know, and the grief of people you don’t know, are ghouls.

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Anonymous wrote:The cast released a statement via People:

“We are all so utterly devastated by the loss of Matthew. We were more than just cast mates. We are a family," their statement reads. "There is so much to say, but right now we’re going to take a moment to grieve and process this unfathomable loss."
"In time we will say more, as and when we are able," the statement continues. "For now, our thoughts and our love are with Matty’s family, his friends, and everyone who loved him around the world."

Took them this long to say “we will say more” later? I see a special on the horizon with proceeds going to his charity.

What more is there to say, really? Since when do people who are not family or current business associates need to make any public statement at all? How do you read something like this and assume the people involved are busy hatching any plans of any kind?

Why are they saying they will say more? Why not a final statement and end it.

Move on. It's their grief to manage not yours.

I find their statement to very strange.

Everyone grieves differently. You have never been in their situation unless you're secretly like a Seinfeld cast member... for you to find it strange makes no sense.

When you give a condolence message it’s suppose to be final. Not, “we’ll talk about it later.”

And family? Really? Family gets together for birthdays and holidays. They didn’t do that except for the girls. Jen has Friendsgiving every year (minus COVID) the day before Thanksgiving and they are not all there. They are not family nor acct like it.

Mine doesn't. "Family" doesn't mean the same thing to everyone.

Only see everyone twice in 20 years is a sad thing to call family. Understandable if you live in countries apart and countries that don’t allow freedom of travel.

Where do you get the idea that they only saw each other twice in 20 years? It sounds obvious to me that they have seen each other more than that.

But anyway, not everyone has the same idea of family and Perry had a debilitating addiction and that makes relationships very hard. I have a sibling who is an addict and I see him very sporadically. I often text or call him only to discover the number doesn't work anymore because he's let his phone plan lapse again. There was a time when I could maintain better contact because he was married and his wife was very stable, but his addiction and mental health issues destroyed that relationship and since they've been separated, it's very hard to stay in touch.

If you have never had someone like this in your life, you may not get it. But it's possible to love someone and consider them family and not see them very often. Sometimes this is the only sort of relationship available with an addict.

In the reunion special it was mentioned the number of times they’ve all been together since the end of Friends.

As a full group. Not the number of times they've seen each other.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone finding it difficult to watch Friends since his death?

People still watch this show? Lol

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Anonymous wrote:I'm sure the toxicology report will come back that he relapsed. So sad. So many people struggle with addiction.

Yeah, he attended rehab 15 times and it never stuck. In his final Insta posts, he seemed happy. Happy and high. He had plenty of prescription drugs in the house.

You suck, pp

PP was just stating facts.

+1 some posters clearly have never known addicts. It is a brutal, brutal disease. My addict brother’s heart stopped in his sleep after he accidentally took too many prescription pills. His autopsy report was the same: deferred pending toxicology report. We were not surprised by the final results. The medical examiner could have finalized the report with cardiac damage/event if that’s what it was.

I agree. I have 3 family members with decades old substance issues (drinking and drugs). It’s incredible how people are romanticizing MP, probably based on his likable characters he portrayed on the screen. But none of the posters know him, and if he had been in rehab 15 times, he wasn’t immune to the character traits that are common to addicts: lying, manipulation, sneaking around, etc. His most recent fiancé even said she had to go to Al-Anon in order to deal with him, she finally broke it off with him after catching him communicating with a 19 year old on a dating app and that their break up was not amicable. He wasn’t Chandler Bing. He was a very sick person.

I really feel sorry for his parents.

MAYBE I can see a 19 year old with David, he still looks in shape and big MAYBE on LeBlanc, he’s gained some weight. BUT Perry? I just don’t see why a 19 year old would be attracted to him. I’m talking on-line hook ups.

The story was that they matched one another on Raya and started FaceTiming, which apparently the 19 year old recorded and then went public with. He was engaged at the time, so he was busted by his fiancé and it is why she broke up with him. The story has resurfaced now that he died.

Not particularly kind of the ex-fiancée to make a big deal of this immediately after his death, but I guess she wanted to make a quick buck.

Question - are they legally required to do a toxicology screen in deaths like these? Otherwise, I can’t imagine why the family would want to do this. I mean it’s not like they suspect murder right? Whether he was high or not, how does it affect anyone?

Yes, it is required because the cause of death is required for the death certificate. The only time I believe an autopsy isn’t performed is when the person is elderly, then it can be done by a visual overview with accompanying medical information. Younger people get an autopsy since they are dying before expected. Let’s say a child had cancer and a parent smothered the child to end the misery. That’s still murder and would need to be uncovered.

Here’s a guy who recently tried to stop an autopsy and why they go forward even over objections: https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/poison-specialist-connor-bowman-charged-fatally-poisoning-wife-betty-bowman-minnesota/

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Anonymous wrote:He was a talented guy for sure, but he was no schwimmer

Poor Schwimmer. No one is going to grieve like this when he dies.

Wow. How ugly of you to anticipate the reaction to someone's death like this. No, there won't be the level of public, fan posts "like this" for any of the other cast members of a long-ago sitcom. Perry's character was particularly loved and IRL, he apparently made real efforts to help other addicts. But your anticipatory comparison of grief over the deaths of people you don't know personally is shallow and ghoulish. Maybe watch fewer Friends reruns and get out of the house.

Stop calling everyone you disagree with “ghoulish”. You’ve done it multiple times on this thread and it is annoying. NP

Annoying that you assume only one person posting here might find you ghoulish....