Matthew perry died

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Anonymous wrote:The cast released a statement via People:

“We are all so utterly devastated by the loss of Matthew. We were more than just cast mates. We are a family," their statement reads. "There is so much to say, but right now we’re going to take a moment to grieve and process this unfathomable loss."
"In time we will say more, as and when we are able," the statement continues. "For now, our thoughts and our love are with Matty’s family, his friends, and everyone who loved him around the world."


Took them this long to say “we will say more” later? I see a special on the horizon with proceeds going to his charity.


What more is there to say, really? Since when do people who are not family or current business associates need to make any public statement at all? How do you read something like this and assume the people involved are busy hatching any plans of any kind?


Why are they saying they will say more? Why not a final statement and end it.


Move on. It's their grief to manage not yours.


I find their statement to very strange.


Everyone grieves differently. You have never been in their situation unless you're secretly like a Seinfeld cast member... for you to find it strange makes no sense.


When you give a condolence message it’s suppose to be final. Not, “we’ll talk about it later.”

And family? Really? Family gets together for birthdays and holidays. They didn’t do that except for the girls. Jen has Friendsgiving every year (minus COVID) the day before Thanksgiving and they are not all there. They are not family nor acct like it.


Nobody can save an addict except the addict themselves.
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Anonymous wrote:The cast released a statement via People:

“We are all so utterly devastated by the loss of Matthew. We were more than just cast mates. We are a family," their statement reads. "There is so much to say, but right now we’re going to take a moment to grieve and process this unfathomable loss."
"In time we will say more, as and when we are able," the statement continues. "For now, our thoughts and our love are with Matty’s family, his friends, and everyone who loved him around the world."


Took them this long to say “we will say more” later? I see a special on the horizon with proceeds going to his charity.


What more is there to say, really? Since when do people who are not family or current business associates need to make any public statement at all? How do you read something like this and assume the people involved are busy hatching any plans of any kind?


Why are they saying they will say more? Why not a final statement and end it.


Move on. It's their grief to manage not yours.


I find their statement to very strange.


Everyone grieves differently. You have never been in their situation unless you're secretly like a Seinfeld cast member... for you to find it strange makes no sense.


When you give a condolence message it’s suppose to be final. Not, “we’ll talk about it later.”

And family? Really? Family gets together for birthdays and holidays. They didn’t do that except for the girls. Jen has Friendsgiving every year (minus COVID) the day before Thanksgiving and they are not all there. They are not family nor acct like it.


Mine doesn't. "Family" doesn't mean the same thing to everyone.


Only see everyone twice in 20 years is a sad thing to call family. Understandable if you live in countries apart and countries that don’t allow freedom of travel.


Not everyone has family that wishes to participate. My family always had to travel to see people. Once that became not as easy (people moved away, etc). We never again saw certain family members. E.g. they are unwilling to travel even for major family events unless it's their child. We've even tried to meet them more than halfway and they cancel day of. It's frustrating when you do care about seeing family they just don't.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm sure the toxicology report will come back that he relapsed. So sad. So many people struggle with addiction.



Yeah, he attended rehab 15 times and it never stuck. In his final Insta posts, he seemed happy. Happy and high. He had plenty of prescription drugs in the house.


You suck, pp


PP was just stating facts.



+1 some posters clearly have never known addicts. It is a brutal, brutal disease. My addict brother’s heart stopped in his sleep after he accidentally took too many prescription pills. His autopsy report was the same: deferred pending toxicology report. We were not surprised by the final results. The medical examiner could have finalized the report with cardiac damage/event if that’s what it was.


I agree. I have 3 family members with decades old substance issues (drinking and drugs). It’s incredible how people are romanticizing MP, probably based on his likable characters he portrayed on the screen. But none of the posters know him, and if he had been in rehab 15 times, he wasn’t immune to the character traits that are common to addicts: lying, manipulation, sneaking around, etc. His most recent fiancé even said she had to go to Al-Anon in order to deal with him, she finally broke it off with him after catching him communicating with a 19 year old on a dating app and that their break up was not amicable. He wasn’t Chandler Bing. He was a very sick person.

I really feel sorry for his parents.


MAYBE I can see a 19 year old with David, he still looks in shape and big MAYBE on LeBlanc, he’s gained some weight. BUT Perry? I just don’t see why a 19 year old would be attracted to him. I’m talking on-line hook ups.


The story was that they matched one another on Raya and started FaceTiming, which apparently the 19 year old recorded and then went public with. He was engaged at the time, so he was busted by his fiancé and it is why she broke up with him. The story has resurfaced now that he died.


Not particularly kind of the ex-fiancée to make a big deal of this immediately after his death, but I guess she wanted to make a quick buck.

Question - are they legally required to do a toxicology screen in deaths like these? Otherwise, I can’t imagine why the family would want to do this. I mean it’s not like they suspect murder right? Whether he was high or not, how does it affect anyone?


The ex-finance isn’t the one that broke the story. The 19 yr old posted the video to Tik Tok or something like that when it happened a few years ago and it went viral and was news then. When MP died news outlets (like NYP) just republished it. Also excerpts from his memoir re how he didn’t remember even proposing to his ex-finance, how he didn’t want to marry her, how he didn’t want to live with her, etc also were republished.

Not sure why you place blame on ex-finance when it sounds like she went through he!! with him. Smh.


Their engagement broke off three years ago, and he said he was high when he proposed and didn't even remember doing so. Agree with the first PP that she didn't need to put out a public message. Also, she says how they rewatched Friends together before the reunion but he told Diane Sawyer he can't rewatch Friends episodes because he just sees his weight/addiction/struggles.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm sure the toxicology report will come back that he relapsed. So sad. So many people struggle with addiction.



Yeah, he attended rehab 15 times and it never stuck. In his final Insta posts, he seemed happy. Happy and high. He had plenty of prescription drugs in the house.


You suck, pp


PP was just stating facts.



+1 some posters clearly have never known addicts. It is a brutal, brutal disease. My addict brother’s heart stopped in his sleep after he accidentally took too many prescription pills. His autopsy report was the same: deferred pending toxicology report. We were not surprised by the final results. The medical examiner could have finalized the report with cardiac damage/event if that’s what it was.


I agree. I have 3 family members with decades old substance issues (drinking and drugs). It’s incredible how people are romanticizing MP, probably based on his likable characters he portrayed on the screen. But none of the posters know him, and if he had been in rehab 15 times, he wasn’t immune to the character traits that are common to addicts: lying, manipulation, sneaking around, etc. His most recent fiancé even said she had to go to Al-Anon in order to deal with him, she finally broke it off with him after catching him communicating with a 19 year old on a dating app and that their break up was not amicable. He wasn’t Chandler Bing. He was a very sick person.

I really feel sorry for his parents.


MAYBE I can see a 19 year old with David, he still looks in shape and big MAYBE on LeBlanc, he’s gained some weight. BUT Perry? I just don’t see why a 19 year old would be attracted to him. I’m talking on-line hook ups.


The story was that they matched one another on Raya and started FaceTiming, which apparently the 19 year old recorded and then went public with. He was engaged at the time, so he was busted by his fiancé and it is why she broke up with him. The story has resurfaced now that he died.


Not particularly kind of the ex-fiancée to make a big deal of this immediately after his death, but I guess she wanted to make a quick buck.

Question - are they legally required to do a toxicology screen in deaths like these? Otherwise, I can’t imagine why the family would want to do this. I mean it’s not like they suspect murder right? Whether he was high or not, how does it affect anyone?


The ex-finance isn’t the one that broke the story. The 19 yr old posted the video to Tik Tok or something like that when it happened a few years ago and it went viral and was news then. When MP died news outlets (like NYP) just republished it. Also excerpts from his memoir re how he didn’t remember even proposing to his ex-finance, how he didn’t want to marry her, how he didn’t want to live with her, etc also were republished.

Not sure why you place blame on ex-finance when it sounds like she went through he!! with him. Smh.


Their engagement broke off three years ago, and he said he was high when he proposed and didn't even remember doing so. Agree with the first PP that she didn't need to put out a public message. Also, she says how they rewatched Friends together before the reunion but he told Diane Sawyer he can't rewatch Friends episodes because he just sees his weight/addiction/struggles.



Everyone else is “releasing a statement”, including people who only worked with him in the 90s. So what’s the issue with his recent ex-fiancee releasing one? I don’t get it.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm sure the toxicology report will come back that he relapsed. So sad. So many people struggle with addiction.



Yeah, he attended rehab 15 times and it never stuck. In his final Insta posts, he seemed happy. Happy and high. He had plenty of prescription drugs in the house.


You suck, pp


PP was just stating facts.



+1 some posters clearly have never known addicts. It is a brutal, brutal disease. My addict brother’s heart stopped in his sleep after he accidentally took too many prescription pills. His autopsy report was the same: deferred pending toxicology report. We were not surprised by the final results. The medical examiner could have finalized the report with cardiac damage/event if that’s what it was.


I agree. I have 3 family members with decades old substance issues (drinking and drugs). It’s incredible how people are romanticizing MP, probably based on his likable characters he portrayed on the screen. But none of the posters know him, and if he had been in rehab 15 times, he wasn’t immune to the character traits that are common to addicts: lying, manipulation, sneaking around, etc. His most recent fiancé even said she had to go to Al-Anon in order to deal with him, she finally broke it off with him after catching him communicating with a 19 year old on a dating app and that their break up was not amicable. He wasn’t Chandler Bing. He was a very sick person.

I really feel sorry for his parents.


MAYBE I can see a 19 year old with David, he still looks in shape and big MAYBE on LeBlanc, he’s gained some weight. BUT Perry? I just don’t see why a 19 year old would be attracted to him. I’m talking on-line hook ups.


The story was that they matched one another on Raya and started FaceTiming, which apparently the 19 year old recorded and then went public with. He was engaged at the time, so he was busted by his fiancé and it is why she broke up with him. The story has resurfaced now that he died.


Not particularly kind of the ex-fiancée to make a big deal of this immediately after his death, but I guess she wanted to make a quick buck.

Question - are they legally required to do a toxicology screen in deaths like these? Otherwise, I can’t imagine why the family would want to do this. I mean it’s not like they suspect murder right? Whether he was high or not, how does it affect anyone?


The ex-finance isn’t the one that broke the story. The 19 yr old posted the video to Tik Tok or something like that when it happened a few years ago and it went viral and was news then. When MP died news outlets (like NYP) just republished it. Also excerpts from his memoir re how he didn’t remember even proposing to his ex-finance, how he didn’t want to marry her, how he didn’t want to live with her, etc also were republished.

Not sure why you place blame on ex-finance when it sounds like she went through he!! with him. Smh.


Their engagement broke off three years ago, and he said he was high when he proposed and didn't even remember doing so. Agree with the first PP that she didn't need to put out a public message. Also, she says how they rewatched Friends together before the reunion but he told Diane Sawyer he can't rewatch Friends episodes because he just sees his weight/addiction/struggles.



Everyone else is “releasing a statement”, including people who only worked with him in the 90s. So what’s the issue with his recent ex-fiancee releasing one? I don’t get it.


Most of the others are famous celebrities whereas she is mostly famous for being his ex-fiance. They didn't end on good terms, and her statement wasn't very complimentary toward him. Obviously she is free to release whatever statement she wants, but it seemed in poor taste.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm sure the toxicology report will come back that he relapsed. So sad. So many people struggle with addiction.



Yeah, he attended rehab 15 times and it never stuck. In his final Insta posts, he seemed happy. Happy and high. He had plenty of prescription drugs in the house.


You suck, pp


PP was just stating facts.



+1 some posters clearly have never known addicts. It is a brutal, brutal disease. My addict brother’s heart stopped in his sleep after he accidentally took too many prescription pills. His autopsy report was the same: deferred pending toxicology report. We were not surprised by the final results. The medical examiner could have finalized the report with cardiac damage/event if that’s what it was.


I agree. I have 3 family members with decades old substance issues (drinking and drugs). It’s incredible how people are romanticizing MP, probably based on his likable characters he portrayed on the screen. But none of the posters know him, and if he had been in rehab 15 times, he wasn’t immune to the character traits that are common to addicts: lying, manipulation, sneaking around, etc. His most recent fiancé even said she had to go to Al-Anon in order to deal with him, she finally broke it off with him after catching him communicating with a 19 year old on a dating app and that their break up was not amicable. He wasn’t Chandler Bing. He was a very sick person.

I really feel sorry for his parents.


MAYBE I can see a 19 year old with David, he still looks in shape and big MAYBE on LeBlanc, he’s gained some weight. BUT Perry? I just don’t see why a 19 year old would be attracted to him. I’m talking on-line hook ups.


The story was that they matched one another on Raya and started FaceTiming, which apparently the 19 year old recorded and then went public with. He was engaged at the time, so he was busted by his fiancé and it is why she broke up with him. The story has resurfaced now that he died.


Not particularly kind of the ex-fiancée to make a big deal of this immediately after his death, but I guess she wanted to make a quick buck.

Question - are they legally required to do a toxicology screen in deaths like these? Otherwise, I can’t imagine why the family would want to do this. I mean it’s not like they suspect murder right? Whether he was high or not, how does it affect anyone?


The ex-finance isn’t the one that broke the story. The 19 yr old posted the video to Tik Tok or something like that when it happened a few years ago and it went viral and was news then. When MP died news outlets (like NYP) just republished it. Also excerpts from his memoir re how he didn’t remember even proposing to his ex-finance, how he didn’t want to marry her, how he didn’t want to live with her, etc also were republished.

Not sure why you place blame on ex-finance when it sounds like she went through he!! with him. Smh.


Their engagement broke off three years ago, and he said he was high when he proposed and didn't even remember doing so. Agree with the first PP that she didn't need to put out a public message. Also, she says how they rewatched Friends together before the reunion but he told Diane Sawyer he can't rewatch Friends episodes because he just sees his weight/addiction/struggles.



Everyone else is “releasing a statement”, including people who only worked with him in the 90s. So what’s the issue with his recent ex-fiancee releasing one? I don’t get it.


Most of the others are famous celebrities whereas she is mostly famous for being his ex-fiance. They didn't end on good terms, and her statement wasn't very complimentary toward him. Obviously she is free to release whatever statement she wants, but it seemed in poor taste.


The man was a junkie, plain and simple. If you know any, especially ones that have been to rehab 15 times over 3 decades, then you would know people close to them have complicated feelings. Other stories have come out, including that he was high opiods during the Friends reunion filming because he ha dental surgery the day before and got the doctor to prescribe them to him. He was known for that. Addicts hurt a lot of people, not just themselves. He doesn't get a special, white glove treatment just because he was on friends.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm sure the toxicology report will come back that he relapsed. So sad. So many people struggle with addiction.



Yeah, he attended rehab 15 times and it never stuck. In his final Insta posts, he seemed happy. Happy and high. He had plenty of prescription drugs in the house.


You suck, pp


PP was just stating facts.



+1 some posters clearly have never known addicts. It is a brutal, brutal disease. My addict brother’s heart stopped in his sleep after he accidentally took too many prescription pills. His autopsy report was the same: deferred pending toxicology report. We were not surprised by the final results. The medical examiner could have finalized the report with cardiac damage/event if that’s what it was.


I agree. I have 3 family members with decades old substance issues (drinking and drugs). It’s incredible how people are romanticizing MP, probably based on his likable characters he portrayed on the screen. But none of the posters know him, and if he had been in rehab 15 times, he wasn’t immune to the character traits that are common to addicts: lying, manipulation, sneaking around, etc. His most recent fiancé even said she had to go to Al-Anon in order to deal with him, she finally broke it off with him after catching him communicating with a 19 year old on a dating app and that their break up was not amicable. He wasn’t Chandler Bing. He was a very sick person.

I really feel sorry for his parents.


MAYBE I can see a 19 year old with David, he still looks in shape and big MAYBE on LeBlanc, he’s gained some weight. BUT Perry? I just don’t see why a 19 year old would be attracted to him. I’m talking on-line hook ups.


The story was that they matched one another on Raya and started FaceTiming, which apparently the 19 year old recorded and then went public with. He was engaged at the time, so he was busted by his fiancé and it is why she broke up with him. The story has resurfaced now that he died.


Not particularly kind of the ex-fiancée to make a big deal of this immediately after his death, but I guess she wanted to make a quick buck.

Question - are they legally required to do a toxicology screen in deaths like these? Otherwise, I can’t imagine why the family would want to do this. I mean it’s not like they suspect murder right? Whether he was high or not, how does it affect anyone?


The Raya story was known when they broke up. She’s not saying anything new ex pet her condolences. I suspect the rest of the article was reprinted from previous articles.
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Anonymous wrote:The cast released a statement via People:

“We are all so utterly devastated by the loss of Matthew. We were more than just cast mates. We are a family," their statement reads. "There is so much to say, but right now we’re going to take a moment to grieve and process this unfathomable loss."
"In time we will say more, as and when we are able," the statement continues. "For now, our thoughts and our love are with Matty’s family, his friends, and everyone who loved him around the world."


Took them this long to say “we will say more” later? I see a special on the horizon with proceeds going to his charity.


What more is there to say, really? Since when do people who are not family or current business associates need to make any public statement at all? How do you read something like this and assume the people involved are busy hatching any plans of any kind?


Why are they saying they will say more? Why not a final statement and end it.


Move on. It's their grief to manage not yours.


I find their statement to very strange.


Everyone grieves differently. You have never been in their situation unless you're secretly like a Seinfeld cast member... for you to find it strange makes no sense.


When you give a condolence message it’s suppose to be final. Not, “we’ll talk about it later.”

And family? Really? Family gets together for birthdays and holidays. They didn’t do that except for the girls. Jen has Friendsgiving every year (minus COVID) the day before Thanksgiving and they are not all there. They are not family nor acct like it.


Mine doesn't. "Family" doesn't mean the same thing to everyone.


Only see everyone twice in 20 years is a sad thing to call family. Understandable if you live in countries apart and countries that don’t allow freedom of travel.


Where do you get the idea that they only saw each other twice in 20 years? It sounds obvious to me that they have seen each other more than that.

But anyway, not everyone has the same idea of family and Perry had a debilitating addiction and that makes relationships very hard. I have a sibling who is an addict and I see him very sporadically. I often text or call him only to discover the number doesn't work anymore because he's let his phone plan lapse again. There was a time when I could maintain better contact because he was married and his wife was very stable, but his addiction and mental health issues destroyed that relationship and since they've been separated, it's very hard to stay in touch.

If you have never had someone like this in your life, you may not get it. But it's possible to love someone and consider them family and not see them very often. Sometimes this is the only sort of relationship available with an addict.


In the reunion special it was mentioned the number of times they’ve all been together since the end of Friends.


As a full group. Not the number of times they've seen each other.


“They’ve all been together”
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Anonymous wrote:NP. As much as I hate to say, his death is only surprising if you have in your head a picture of him in the first few seasons of Friends. He was my favorite character on Friends, but it's painful to watch some of those seasons where he was so clearly sick in his addiction. His appearance in recent years, along with his near death from opioids in 2018, also clearly showed his deep struggles and the damage he had been doing to himself physically for decades.


Even he said his death wouldn't be surprising "I say in the book that if I did die, it would shock people, but it wouldn't surprise anybody."


Not really surprised he was the first to go.
I thought Gunther was the first.
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Anonymous wrote:Anyone finding it difficult to watch Friends since his death?


People still watch this show? Lol


I watch it before bedtime. Better than watching the news.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm sure the toxicology report will come back that he relapsed. So sad. So many people struggle with addiction.



Yeah, he attended rehab 15 times and it never stuck. In his final Insta posts, he seemed happy. Happy and high. He had plenty of prescription drugs in the house.


You suck, pp


PP was just stating facts.



+1 some posters clearly have never known addicts. It is a brutal, brutal disease. My addict brother’s heart stopped in his sleep after he accidentally took too many prescription pills. His autopsy report was the same: deferred pending toxicology report. We were not surprised by the final results. The medical examiner could have finalized the report with cardiac damage/event if that’s what it was.


I agree. I have 3 family members with decades old substance issues (drinking and drugs). It’s incredible how people are romanticizing MP, probably based on his likable characters he portrayed on the screen. But none of the posters know him, and if he had been in rehab 15 times, he wasn’t immune to the character traits that are common to addicts: lying, manipulation, sneaking around, etc. His most recent fiancé even said she had to go to Al-Anon in order to deal with him, she finally broke it off with him after catching him communicating with a 19 year old on a dating app and that their break up was not amicable. He wasn’t Chandler Bing. He was a very sick person.

I really feel sorry for his parents.


MAYBE I can see a 19 year old with David, he still looks in shape and big MAYBE on LeBlanc, he’s gained some weight. BUT Perry? I just don’t see why a 19 year old would be attracted to him. I’m talking on-line hook ups.


The story was that they matched one another on Raya and started FaceTiming, which apparently the 19 year old recorded and then went public with. He was engaged at the time, so he was busted by his fiancé and it is why she broke up with him. The story has resurfaced now that he died.


Not particularly kind of the ex-fiancée to make a big deal of this immediately after his death, but I guess she wanted to make a quick buck.

Question - are they legally required to do a toxicology screen in deaths like these? Otherwise, I can’t imagine why the family would want to do this. I mean it’s not like they suspect murder right? Whether he was high or not, how does it affect anyone?


The ex-finance isn’t the one that broke the story. The 19 yr old posted the video to Tik Tok or something like that when it happened a few years ago and it went viral and was news then. When MP died news outlets (like NYP) just republished it. Also excerpts from his memoir re how he didn’t remember even proposing to his ex-finance, how he didn’t want to marry her, how he didn’t want to live with her, etc also were republished.

Not sure why you place blame on ex-finance when it sounds like she went through he!! with him. Smh.


Their engagement broke off three years ago, and he said he was high when he proposed and didn't even remember doing so. Agree with the first PP that she didn't need to put out a public message. Also, she says how they rewatched Friends together before the reunion but he told Diane Sawyer he can't rewatch Friends episodes because he just sees his weight/addiction/struggles.



Everyone else is “releasing a statement”, including people who only worked with him in the 90s. So what’s the issue with his recent ex-fiancee releasing one? I don’t get it.


Most of the others are famous celebrities whereas she is mostly famous for being his ex-fiance. They didn't end on good terms, and her statement wasn't very complimentary toward him. Obviously she is free to release whatever statement she wants, but it seemed in poor taste.


She said nothing negatively in her condolence statement. The other stuff in the article is from previous statements. That’s not her fault the press chose to reprint.
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Anonymous wrote:NP. As much as I hate to say, his death is only surprising if you have in your head a picture of him in the first few seasons of Friends. He was my favorite character on Friends, but it's painful to watch some of those seasons where he was so clearly sick in his addiction. His appearance in recent years, along with his near death from opioids in 2018, also clearly showed his deep struggles and the damage he had been doing to himself physically for decades.


Even he said his death wouldn't be surprising "I say in the book that if I did die, it would shock people, but it wouldn't surprise anybody."


Not really surprised he was the first to go.
I thought Gunther was the first.


The first of the six. I actually think the guy that was Rachel’s dad was before Gunther. Maybe the handy man too. Probably others that we don’t know about.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm sure the toxicology report will come back that he relapsed. So sad. So many people struggle with addiction.



Yeah, he attended rehab 15 times and it never stuck. In his final Insta posts, he seemed happy. Happy and high. He had plenty of prescription drugs in the house.


You suck, pp


PP was just stating facts.



+1 some posters clearly have never known addicts. It is a brutal, brutal disease. My addict brother’s heart stopped in his sleep after he accidentally took too many prescription pills. His autopsy report was the same: deferred pending toxicology report. We were not surprised by the final results. The medical examiner could have finalized the report with cardiac damage/event if that’s what it was.


I agree. I have 3 family members with decades old substance issues (drinking and drugs). It’s incredible how people are romanticizing MP, probably based on his likable characters he portrayed on the screen. But none of the posters know him, and if he had been in rehab 15 times, he wasn’t immune to the character traits that are common to addicts: lying, manipulation, sneaking around, etc. His most recent fiancé even said she had to go to Al-Anon in order to deal with him, she finally broke it off with him after catching him communicating with a 19 year old on a dating app and that their break up was not amicable. He wasn’t Chandler Bing. He was a very sick person.

I really feel sorry for his parents.


MAYBE I can see a 19 year old with David, he still looks in shape and big MAYBE on LeBlanc, he’s gained some weight. BUT Perry? I just don’t see why a 19 year old would be attracted to him. I’m talking on-line hook ups.


The story was that they matched one another on Raya and started FaceTiming, which apparently the 19 year old recorded and then went public with. He was engaged at the time, so he was busted by his fiancé and it is why she broke up with him. The story has resurfaced now that he died.


Not particularly kind of the ex-fiancée to make a big deal of this immediately after his death, but I guess she wanted to make a quick buck.

Question - are they legally required to do a toxicology screen in deaths like these? Otherwise, I can’t imagine why the family would want to do this. I mean it’s not like they suspect murder right? Whether he was high or not, how does it affect anyone?


The ex-finance isn’t the one that broke the story. The 19 yr old posted the video to Tik Tok or something like that when it happened a few years ago and it went viral and was news then. When MP died news outlets (like NYP) just republished it. Also excerpts from his memoir re how he didn’t remember even proposing to his ex-finance, how he didn’t want to marry her, how he didn’t want to live with her, etc also were republished.

Not sure why you place blame on ex-finance when it sounds like she went through he!! with him. Smh.


Their engagement broke off three years ago, and he said he was high when he proposed and didn't even remember doing so. Agree with the first PP that she didn't need to put out a public message. Also, she says how they rewatched Friends together before the reunion but he told Diane Sawyer he can't rewatch Friends episodes because he just sees his weight/addiction/struggles.



Everyone else is “releasing a statement”, including people who only worked with him in the 90s. So what’s the issue with his recent ex-fiancee releasing one? I don’t get it.


Most of the others are famous celebrities whereas she is mostly famous for being his ex-fiance. They didn't end on good terms, and her statement wasn't very complimentary toward him. Obviously she is free to release whatever statement she wants, but it seemed in poor taste.


She said nothing negatively in her condolence statement. The other stuff in the article is from previous statements. That’s not her fault the press chose to reprint.



She was not complimentary, implied he was a narcissist who loved watching his own work and who hurt her brutally. He was very cold about their relationship in his book, and he's the one who blew it up, so I don't blame her for having hard feelings. But I don't think she should have released a statement.
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The one who got away for him seems to have been Lizzy Caplan. I think they dated for almost 6 years. She must have put up with a lot though.
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Anonymous wrote:The one who got away for him seems to have been Lizzy Caplan. I think they dated for almost 6 years. She must have put up with a lot though.


I LOVE Lizzy Caplan, and love the idea of them as a couple (though I'm sure it was incredibly difficult for her). Does he talk about her/that relationship in his book?
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