Shooting at Brandywine & Connecticut Ave NW This Afternoon

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:We have to put our faith in the U.S. Attorney's office. Crime is rampant because there are so few consequences right now. Once we start prosecuting more crimes, the tide will start to turn. It will also help police morale. For years, they have been putting cases together only to see them go nowhere.


The USAO with the no paper rate of 67%? The one that had to be called up to the Hill, scolded and directed to report out numbers so their abysmal performance can be tracked? Faith? Put the screws to Matt Graves and force him to rein in his ideological prosecutors as he did in pilot project in Chinatown would be more productive.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/08/05/chinatown-crime-dc-police/

While prosecution rates soared in Chinatown when prosecutorial discretion was removed by Graves, overall the prosecution rate dropped 4% that month, was that meant as a signal from career prosecutors? Note, in Chinatown pilot, same no certified lab, same MPD, all factors cited for non-prosecution were the same but no prosecutorial discretion. There was also this response to trying to bring more gun cases in most impacted areas, pulling them into fed court. Staff prosecutors refused. https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/04/politics/black-prosecutors-dc-gun-cases/index.html

Most recent numbers were slightly better, hope the trend continues but the public pressure and Congressional oversight cannot let up.

Anonymous
I know the no paper rate has been awful, but I think they have pivoted and are now aggressively prosecuting. I hope so.
Anonymous
Frumin would have been better off running for an at-large seat. He seems to have little interest in advocating for his constituents.
Anonymous
Frumin only seemed engaged when telling rambling anecdotes. The one about the mom with a voucher wanting to send her kids to Cathedral schools for middle school and his surprise came off as offensive.

What kind of policy work has he done in the past?

He mentioned the recent WP article about the voucher debacle EOTP on Quincy and said JLG was talking about it and she "gets it" and maybe he can work with her. It was striking to me since she was the only one who voted against Pinto's Emergency Crime Bill and his remarks in that hearing echoed hers to the extent I was afraid he was going to vote no. All other CM voted yes and did not grandstand. JLG has a very different base with very different ideology, why he is so focused on her and working with her, etc.? It's mystifying.

He has the demeanor of a kid who never had his homework done but always had some elaborate tale. In business this guy would not be your A team you'd have meet with top clients, he just does not present well or effectively. People in CP were unhappy with his level of engagement at their crime meeting a week earlier, even after a SHOOTING he did not seem to alter his engagement. People did try to create a sense of urgency. He even joked about Cheh, who was far better and more informed.

Will he run for an at large seat next? Someone told me he has mayoral ambitions. He's really not the best person for the current situation. He likes riding his bike, going to events and posting on socials.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I watched about 25 minutes online and was not encouraged by Frumin's responses at all. His strategy seems to be to hope no more "incidents" (aka murder attempts) happen until this one has blown over.


He made quite a few statements aimed at lowering expectations, was odd.

MPD said they expect the case to be closed soon so then the shooters and victim will be identified. If it is true that none of the 3 were leaseholders at Brandywine or Saratoga, but may have had "ties" that is almost worse. That associates of residents are dealing in the neighborhood but can't be evicted as a solution is more complex. I am still baffled that things that would get you kicked out of public housing seemingly have no impact on vouchers.

3 shots fired, 1 hit victim, someone asked where other 2 went but question was sidestepped.


It is definitely worse as it will allow the Frumin types to flex that the voucher programs are not a problem. It also means that there is not a solution to violence in the neighborhood.
Anonymous
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Frumin

I'm not sure that the "increased access to affordable housing" focus is a fit for his constituents until public safety is restored.

JLG has also worked on education issues, that may be where they connected. He definitely seemed under her sway re: juvenile crime policy in June, now wants to work with her on vouchers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janeese_Lewis_George
Anonymous
Without data, no accountability. We need data re: both crime in DC and re: how they have implemented Housing First.



Anonymous
If Frumin does not soon call for a complete moratorium on the housing vouchers on Connecticut Ave then he is an enabler and thus part of the problem. I would have told him that last night but we had BTSN. I watched the recording and the last gentleman to speak seems reflective of me and my neighbors. We are done with this BS.
Anonymous
There is an upcoming Workday in the Ward and then a walk-around with the officers. I plan to go and speak with Frumin there. I didn't expect much in a public forum like yesterday. I have sent a letter with at least one ask for a monthly forum on crime. I agree he doesn't seem like a representative of our ward. I was impressed by the Commander though and want to hear more about the engagement he has going on at the building re connecting the worst offenders to services to shape up or ship out (it was his carrot/stick set of responses).
Anonymous
[the building at 5333 Connecticut avenue has not had a shooting (yet). I believe it’s a matter of time before something awful happens there: Since 2019, (this did stop during the lockdowns) cars park on adjacent street, Kanawha street, and sit idling with occupants for hours. Walking past at any time day or night, the same car or cars will be there, people getting high and waiting for I don’t know what. I’ve seen them, while I was passing, suddenly leave the car, and while someone was coming out the side entrance, they go inside. Some neighbors have said there are shared arrangements where one party rents and others wait their turn to sleep when one other goes to work. Weird and sad. This restarted this year, as it really did stop during COVID. I’ve called the police and they said there is nothing they can do, although they did say it’s illegal for them to be smoking weed in the car. The car(s) looked a bit lived in, with pizza boxes and other food trash lying on the back seat (it’s general a man and woman in the car). I was told by the police not to approach them. I also called the management company who said they were unaware of anything like this.

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I watched about 25 minutes online and was not encouraged by Frumin's responses at all. His strategy seems to be to hope no more "incidents" (aka murder attempts) happen until this one has blown over.


He made quite a few statements aimed at lowering expectations, was odd.

MPD said they expect the case to be closed soon so then the shooters and victim will be identified. If it is true that none of the 3 were leaseholders at Brandywine or Saratoga, but may have had "ties" that is almost worse. That associates of residents are dealing in the neighborhood but can't be evicted as a solution is more complex. I am still baffled that things that would get you kicked out of public housing seemingly have no impact on vouchers.

3 shots fired, 1 hit victim, someone asked where other 2 went but question was sidestepped.


It is definitely worse as it will allow the Frumin types to flex that the voucher programs are not a problem. It also means that there is not a solution to violence in the neighborhood.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The shootings (and domestic violence victims being thrown out of windows) are no surprise when police give up on shoplifting, aggressive panhandling and fare jumping. People think “no one cares, I can get away with anything”. My kid asks me “why do we have to pay our Metro fare when those people are not?”


Your kids probably don't have to pay Metro fare, they're entitled to "Kids Ride Free" passes.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I watched about 25 minutes online and was not encouraged by Frumin's responses at all. His strategy seems to be to hope no more "incidents" (aka murder attempts) happen until this one has blown over.


He made quite a few statements aimed at lowering expectations, was odd.

MPD said they expect the case to be closed soon so then the shooters and victim will be identified. If it is true that none of the 3 were leaseholders at Brandywine or Saratoga, but may have had "ties" that is almost worse. That associates of residents are dealing in the neighborhood but can't be evicted as a solution is more complex. I am still baffled that things that would get you kicked out of public housing seemingly have no impact on vouchers.

3 shots fired, 1 hit victim, someone asked where other 2 went but question was sidestepped.


How can you kick someone out of their house for being an associate of someone who breaks the law? (Or, more likely, for being the parent or grandparent of someone who's an associate of someone who breaks the law.)
Anonymous
The building at 5333 doesn't have vouchers or anything of the like. It is a super high end, very new building with mostly affluent tenants.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
I have seen no reporting on this incident in the WaPo. Did I miss it? I found out from our list serv and concerned neighbors talking to each other. Like the attack on someone at the Starbucks outside on Ct and Livingston, with a fire extinguisher, without private communication, we’d never hear about any crimes in our neighborhood here. Why?

Anonymous wrote:We have to put our faith in the U.S. Attorney's office. Crime is rampant because there are so few consequences right now. Once we start prosecuting more crimes, the tide will start to turn. It will also help police morale. For years, they have been putting cases together only to see them go nowhere.


The USAO with the no paper rate of 67%? The one that had to be called up to the Hill, scolded and directed to report out numbers so their abysmal performance can be tracked? Faith? Put the screws to Matt Graves and force him to rein in his ideological prosecutors as he did in pilot project in Chinatown would be more productive.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/08/05/chinatown-crime-dc-police/

While prosecution rates soared in Chinatown when prosecutorial discretion was removed by Graves, overall the prosecution rate dropped 4% that month, was that meant as a signal from career prosecutors? Note, in Chinatown pilot, same no certified lab, same MPD, all factors cited for non-prosecution were the same but no prosecutorial discretion. There was also this response to trying to bring more gun cases in most impacted areas, pulling them into fed court. Staff prosecutors refused. https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/04/politics/black-prosecutors-dc-gun-cases/index.html

Most recent numbers were slightly better, hope the trend continues but the public pressure and Congressional oversight cannot let up.

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