MCEA and Jennifer Martin act like a bunch of lunatics at Council yesterday

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:One of the issues of the MCEA is almost all of their business is not done by vote or conversation with the rank and file teachers.

So you get only the small, political zealots of the group who go to their conference in OC- which becomes an echo chamber of far left ideas- way farther left than most of the actual teachers. It's a real disconnect.

And as saying teachers should "speak out about the MCEA" that would be absolute career suicide. I dont blame or expect them to do that.

MCEA isn't about teachers. Its a business and its looking after their interests not their forced due's paying members.

I think this is the most accurate response. I personally don't feel scared, I know just my voice won't do anything. Now, if you convince 14,000 others to do the same, then we are talking. But I'm not going to speak out against MCEA - that's not my battle to fight. I don't care enough about them. I won't vote, I won't attend meetings, they can F right off. I have tried calling them for help for myself and with my own child when he wasn't getting services, and they blew me off. I KNOW they do not look after us.

But I absolutely LOVE it when people in the community all gang up on teachers though! It's super cute and fun. We didn't start MCEA, it was here before us. All I can do is leave the union. I just want to teach - not deal with political bs. We had no idea they would even be at the county council meeting. Take what you will with that...but think before you pop off here about how it's all my fault I don't speak up- don't lump all of us together. MCEA is a separate entity from the bulk of teachers AND they 100% act like it.

Sure, it's not about teachers but teachers elect them so it is about teachers. You know what I'm saying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of the issues of the MCEA is almost all of their business is not done by vote or conversation with the rank and file teachers.

So you get only the small, political zealots of the group who go to their conference in OC- which becomes an echo chamber of far left ideas- way farther left than most of the actual teachers. It's a real disconnect.

And as saying teachers should "speak out about the MCEA" that would be absolute career suicide. I dont blame or expect them to do that.

MCEA isn't about teachers. Its a business and its looking after their interests not their forced due's paying members.

I think this is the most accurate response. I personally don't feel scared, I know just my voice won't do anything. Now, if you convince 14,000 others to do the same, then we are talking. But I'm not going to speak out against MCEA - that's not my battle to fight. I don't care enough about them. I won't vote, I won't attend meetings, they can F right off. I have tried calling them for help for myself and with my own child when he wasn't getting services, and they blew me off. I KNOW they do not look after us.

But I absolutely LOVE it when people in the community all gang up on teachers though! It's super cute and fun. We didn't start MCEA, it was here before us. All I can do is leave the union. I just want to teach - not deal with political bs. We had no idea they would even be at the county council meeting. Take what you will with that...but think before you pop off here about how it's all my fault I don't speak up- don't lump all of us together. MCEA is a separate entity from the bulk of teachers AND they 100% act like it.

Sure, it's not about teachers but teachers elect them so it is about teachers. You know what I'm saying.

You really are obtuse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of the issues of the MCEA is almost all of their business is not done by vote or conversation with the rank and file teachers.

So you get only the small, political zealots of the group who go to their conference in OC- which becomes an echo chamber of far left ideas- way farther left than most of the actual teachers. It's a real disconnect.

And as saying teachers should "speak out about the MCEA" that would be absolute career suicide. I dont blame or expect them to do that.

MCEA isn't about teachers. Its a business and its looking after their interests not their forced due's paying members.

I think this is the most accurate response. I personally don't feel scared, I know just my voice won't do anything. Now, if you convince 14,000 others to do the same, then we are talking. But I'm not going to speak out against MCEA - that's not my battle to fight. I don't care enough about them. I won't vote, I won't attend meetings, they can F right off. I have tried calling them for help for myself and with my own child when he wasn't getting services, and they blew me off. I KNOW they do not look after us.

But I absolutely LOVE it when people in the community all gang up on teachers though! It's super cute and fun. We didn't start MCEA, it was here before us. All I can do is leave the union. I just want to teach - not deal with political bs. We had no idea they would even be at the county council meeting. Take what you will with that...but think before you pop off here about how it's all my fault I don't speak up- don't lump all of us together. MCEA is a separate entity from the bulk of teachers AND they 100% act like it.

How ungrateful. This union fought for your salary and your retirement long before you were “forced” to join it and will be fighting long after you’re gone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of the issues of the MCEA is almost all of their business is not done by vote or conversation with the rank and file teachers.

So you get only the small, political zealots of the group who go to their conference in OC- which becomes an echo chamber of far left ideas- way farther left than most of the actual teachers. It's a real disconnect.

And as saying teachers should "speak out about the MCEA" that would be absolute career suicide. I dont blame or expect them to do that.

MCEA isn't about teachers. Its a business and its looking after their interests not their forced due's paying members.

I think this is the most accurate response. I personally don't feel scared, I know just my voice won't do anything. Now, if you convince 14,000 others to do the same, then we are talking. But I'm not going to speak out against MCEA - that's not my battle to fight. I don't care enough about them. I won't vote, I won't attend meetings, they can F right off. I have tried calling them for help for myself and with my own child when he wasn't getting services, and they blew me off. I KNOW they do not look after us.

But I absolutely LOVE it when people in the community all gang up on teachers though! It's super cute and fun. We didn't start MCEA, it was here before us. All I can do is leave the union. I just want to teach - not deal with political bs. We had no idea they would even be at the county council meeting. Take what you will with that...but think before you pop off here about how it's all my fault I don't speak up- don't lump all of us together. MCEA is a separate entity from the bulk of teachers AND they 100% act like it.

How ungrateful. This union fought for your salary and your retirement long before you were “forced” to join it and will be fighting long after you’re gone.

You are welcome to take my spot Jan! Xo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of the issues of the MCEA is almost all of their business is not done by vote or conversation with the rank and file teachers.

So you get only the small, political zealots of the group who go to their conference in OC- which becomes an echo chamber of far left ideas- way farther left than most of the actual teachers. It's a real disconnect.

And as saying teachers should "speak out about the MCEA" that would be absolute career suicide. I dont blame or expect them to do that.

MCEA isn't about teachers. Its a business and its looking after their interests not their forced due's paying members.

I think this is the most accurate response. I personally don't feel scared, I know just my voice won't do anything. Now, if you convince 14,000 others to do the same, then we are talking. But I'm not going to speak out against MCEA - that's not my battle to fight. I don't care enough about them. I won't vote, I won't attend meetings, they can F right off. I have tried calling them for help for myself and with my own child when he wasn't getting services, and they blew me off. I KNOW they do not look after us.

But I absolutely LOVE it when people in the community all gang up on teachers though! It's super cute and fun. We didn't start MCEA, it was here before us. All I can do is leave the union. I just want to teach - not deal with political bs. We had no idea they would even be at the county council meeting. Take what you will with that...but think before you pop off here about how it's all my fault I don't speak up- don't lump all of us together. MCEA is a separate entity from the bulk of teachers AND they 100% act like it.

How ungrateful. This union fought for your salary and your retirement long before you were “forced” to join it and will be fighting long after you’re gone.

I’m sorry. Did I offend you Jennifer!? I don’t give a rats ass if it’s ungrateful. I’d get the salary no matter if I was part of it or not. They steal my money every week and refuse to help when we need it. I have a right to be upset. You on the other hand must have a really miserable life to come on here and talk like you do. Get help.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of the issues of the MCEA is almost all of their business is not done by vote or conversation with the rank and file teachers.

So you get only the small, political zealots of the group who go to their conference in OC- which becomes an echo chamber of far left ideas- way farther left than most of the actual teachers. It's a real disconnect.

And as saying teachers should "speak out about the MCEA" that would be absolute career suicide. I dont blame or expect them to do that.

MCEA isn't about teachers. Its a business and its looking after their interests not their forced due's paying members.

If that’s true, why are teachers voting the way they’ve been voting?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of the issues of the MCEA is almost all of their business is not done by vote or conversation with the rank and file teachers.

So you get only the small, political zealots of the group who go to their conference in OC- which becomes an echo chamber of far left ideas- way farther left than most of the actual teachers. It's a real disconnect.

And as saying teachers should "speak out about the MCEA" that would be absolute career suicide. I dont blame or expect them to do that.

MCEA isn't about teachers. Its a business and its looking after their interests not their forced due's paying members.

I think this is the most accurate response. I personally don't feel scared, I know just my voice won't do anything. Now, if you convince 14,000 others to do the same, then we are talking. But I'm not going to speak out against MCEA - that's not my battle to fight. I don't care enough about them. I won't vote, I won't attend meetings, they can F right off. I have tried calling them for help for myself and with my own child when he wasn't getting services, and they blew me off. I KNOW they do not look after us.

But I absolutely LOVE it when people in the community all gang up on teachers though! It's super cute and fun. We didn't start MCEA, it was here before us. All I can do is leave the union. I just want to teach - not deal with political bs. We had no idea they would even be at the county council meeting. Take what you will with that...but think before you pop off here about how it's all my fault I don't speak up- don't lump all of us together. MCEA is a separate entity from the bulk of teachers AND they 100% act like it.

Sure, it's not about teachers but teachers elect them so it is about teachers. You know what I'm saying.

So true!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of the issues of the MCEA is almost all of their business is not done by vote or conversation with the rank and file teachers.

So you get only the small, political zealots of the group who go to their conference in OC- which becomes an echo chamber of far left ideas- way farther left than most of the actual teachers. It's a real disconnect.

And as saying teachers should "speak out about the MCEA" that would be absolute career suicide. I dont blame or expect them to do that.

MCEA isn't about teachers. Its a business and its looking after their interests not their forced due's paying members.

I think this is the most accurate response. I personally don't feel scared, I know just my voice won't do anything. Now, if you convince 14,000 others to do the same, then we are talking. But I'm not going to speak out against MCEA - that's not my battle to fight. I don't care enough about them. I won't vote, I won't attend meetings, they can F right off. I have tried calling them for help for myself and with my own child when he wasn't getting services, and they blew me off. I KNOW they do not look after us.

But I absolutely LOVE it when people in the community all gang up on teachers though! It's super cute and fun. We didn't start MCEA, it was here before us. All I can do is leave the union. I just want to teach - not deal with political bs. We had no idea they would even be at the county council meeting. Take what you will with that...but think before you pop off here about how it's all my fault I don't speak up- don't lump all of us together. MCEA is a separate entity from the bulk of teachers AND they 100% act like it.

How ungrateful. This union fought for your salary and your retirement long before you were “forced” to join it and will be fighting long after you’re gone.

The union also took a stand when many of these parents wanted to put teacher's at risk mostly because childcare was an inconvenience for them. I'll always be grateful!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of the issues of the MCEA is almost all of their business is not done by vote or conversation with the rank and file teachers.

So you get only the small, political zealots of the group who go to their conference in OC- which becomes an echo chamber of far left ideas- way farther left than most of the actual teachers. It's a real disconnect.

And as saying teachers should "speak out about the MCEA" that would be absolute career suicide. I dont blame or expect them to do that.

MCEA isn't about teachers. Its a business and its looking after their interests not their forced due's paying members.

I think this is the most accurate response. I personally don't feel scared, I know just my voice won't do anything. Now, if you convince 14,000 others to do the same, then we are talking. But I'm not going to speak out against MCEA - that's not my battle to fight. I don't care enough about them. I won't vote, I won't attend meetings, they can F right off. I have tried calling them for help for myself and with my own child when he wasn't getting services, and they blew me off. I KNOW they do not look after us.

But I absolutely LOVE it when people in the community all gang up on teachers though! It's super cute and fun. We didn't start MCEA, it was here before us. All I can do is leave the union. I just want to teach - not deal with political bs. We had no idea they would even be at the county council meeting. Take what you will with that...but think before you pop off here about how it's all my fault I don't speak up- don't lump all of us together. MCEA is a separate entity from the bulk of teachers AND they 100% act like it.

Sure, it's not about teachers but teachers elect them so it is about teachers. You know what I'm saying.

So true!!!

Such ignorance here. Not surprising, just sad. Non union members don’t have voting rights. Use your brain. I know it’s hard for someone like you but try.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of the issues of the MCEA is almost all of their business is not done by vote or conversation with the rank and file teachers.

So you get only the small, political zealots of the group who go to their conference in OC- which becomes an echo chamber of far left ideas- way farther left than most of the actual teachers. It's a real disconnect.

And as saying teachers should "speak out about the MCEA" that would be absolute career suicide. I dont blame or expect them to do that.

MCEA isn't about teachers. Its a business and its looking after their interests not their forced due's paying members.

I think this is the most accurate response. I personally don't feel scared, I know just my voice won't do anything. Now, if you convince 14,000 others to do the same, then we are talking. But I'm not going to speak out against MCEA - that's not my battle to fight. I don't care enough about them. I won't vote, I won't attend meetings, they can F right off. I have tried calling them for help for myself and with my own child when he wasn't getting services, and they blew me off. I KNOW they do not look after us.

But I absolutely LOVE it when people in the community all gang up on teachers though! It's super cute and fun. We didn't start MCEA, it was here before us. All I can do is leave the union. I just want to teach - not deal with political bs. We had no idea they would even be at the county council meeting. Take what you will with that...but think before you pop off here about how it's all my fault I don't speak up- don't lump all of us together. MCEA is a separate entity from the bulk of teachers AND they 100% act like it.

Sure, it's not about teachers but teachers elect them so it is about teachers. You know what I'm saying.

So true!!!

So true. If that many teachers were upset about MCEA or didn’t like what they mostly did, then the simple answer would be to stop paying those Union Dues. Or get together with a bunch of like minded teachers and have a chat with the union president.

MCEA business model is supposed to be about protecting and supporting teachers. If it’s not accomplishing that, then its key stakeholders should make that known.

[Anonymous]

Teachers realize the people who are in the union drank the "Kool aid" and they do what good for them and it is no the same as what's right for education. This is why nothing will change until the system changes and becomes a societal need and not a debt based commodity. Kids will not respect education that is not challenging that leds people into poverty and not toward prosperity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of the issues of the MCEA is almost all of their business is not done by vote or conversation with the rank and file teachers.

So you get only the small, political zealots of the group who go to their conference in OC- which becomes an echo chamber of far left ideas- way farther left than most of the actual teachers. It's a real disconnect.

And as saying teachers should "speak out about the MCEA" that would be absolute career suicide. I dont blame or expect them to do that.

MCEA isn't about teachers. Its a business and its looking after their interests not their forced due's paying members.

I think this is the most accurate response. I personally don't feel scared, I know just my voice won't do anything. Now, if you convince 14,000 others to do the same, then we are talking. But I'm not going to speak out against MCEA - that's not my battle to fight. I don't care enough about them. I won't vote, I won't attend meetings, they can F right off. I have tried calling them for help for myself and with my own child when he wasn't getting services, and they blew me off. I KNOW they do not look after us.

But I absolutely LOVE it when people in the community all gang up on teachers though! It's super cute and fun. We didn't start MCEA, it was here before us. All I can do is leave the union. I just want to teach - not deal with political bs. We had no idea they would even be at the county council meeting. Take what you will with that...but think before you pop off here about how it's all my fault I don't speak up- don't lump all of us together. MCEA is a separate entity from the bulk of teachers AND they 100% act like it.

Sure, it's not about teachers but teachers elect them so it is about teachers. You know what I'm saying.

So true!!!

So true. If that many teachers were upset about MCEA or didn’t like what they mostly did, then the simple answer would be to stop paying those Union Dues. Or get together with a bunch of like minded teachers and have a chat with the union president.

MCEA business model is supposed to be about protecting and supporting teachers. If it’s not accomplishing that, then its key stakeholders should make that known.

Shut up. Previous poster said they stopped paying union dues. “So true” spoken like someone who truly has no idea what they are talking about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of the issues of the MCEA is almost all of their business is not done by vote or conversation with the rank and file teachers.

So you get only the small, political zealots of the group who go to their conference in OC- which becomes an echo chamber of far left ideas- way farther left than most of the actual teachers. It's a real disconnect.

And as saying teachers should "speak out about the MCEA" that would be absolute career suicide. I dont blame or expect them to do that.

MCEA isn't about teachers. Its a business and its looking after their interests not their forced due's paying members.

I think this is the most accurate response. I personally don't feel scared, I know just my voice won't do anything. Now, if you convince 14,000 others to do the same, then we are talking. But I'm not going to speak out against MCEA - that's not my battle to fight. I don't care enough about them. I won't vote, I won't attend meetings, they can F right off. I have tried calling them for help for myself and with my own child when he wasn't getting services, and they blew me off. I KNOW they do not look after us.

But I absolutely LOVE it when people in the community all gang up on teachers though! It's super cute and fun. We didn't start MCEA, it was here before us. All I can do is leave the union. I just want to teach - not deal with political bs. We had no idea they would even be at the county council meeting. Take what you will with that...but think before you pop off here about how it's all my fault I don't speak up- don't lump all of us together. MCEA is a separate entity from the bulk of teachers AND they 100% act like it.

Sure, it's not about teachers but teachers elect them so it is about teachers. You know what I'm saying.

So true!!!

So true. If that many teachers were upset about MCEA or didn’t like what they mostly did, then the simple answer would be to stop paying those Union Dues. Or get together with a bunch of like minded teachers and have a chat with the union president.

MCEA business model is supposed to be about protecting and supporting teachers. If it’s not accomplishing that, then its key stakeholders should make that known.

Shut up. Previous poster said they stopped paying union dues. “So true” spoken like someone who truly has no idea what they are talking about.

Who said they stopped paying dues? And eho said people that left the union should vote?

In the above chain, one teacher said all they can do is leave the union, not that she actually left. And the other poster suggested meeting with the union president.

Regardless, if you agree the union negotiating on your behalf is making you and your profession look bad, why don’t you want to do anything about it?

[Anonymous]

"Pretty soon all you'll need to get I to college is a pencil. Get in there it's physics"

George Carlin on the lowering of the bar observed 20 years ago. Gotta love our system of debt based educashun. Since primary school is just babysitting now the real learning will cost beaucoup bucks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of the issues of the MCEA is almost all of their business is not done by vote or conversation with the rank and file teachers.

So you get only the small, political zealots of the group who go to their conference in OC- which becomes an echo chamber of far left ideas- way farther left than most of the actual teachers. It's a real disconnect.

And as saying teachers should "speak out about the MCEA" that would be absolute career suicide. I dont blame or expect them to do that.

MCEA isn't about teachers. Its a business and its looking after their interests not their forced due's paying members.

I think this is the most accurate response. I personally don't feel scared, I know just my voice won't do anything. Now, if you convince 14,000 others to do the same, then we are talking. But I'm not going to speak out against MCEA - that's not my battle to fight. I don't care enough about them. I won't vote, I won't attend meetings, they can F right off. I have tried calling them for help for myself and with my own child when he wasn't getting services, and they blew me off. I KNOW they do not look after us.

But I absolutely LOVE it when people in the community all gang up on teachers though! It's super cute and fun. We didn't start MCEA, it was here before us. All I can do is leave the union. I just want to teach - not deal with political bs. We had no idea they would even be at the county council meeting. Take what you will with that...but think before you pop off here about how it's all my fault I don't speak up- don't lump all of us together. MCEA is a separate entity from the bulk of teachers AND they 100% act like it.

Sure, it's not about teachers but teachers elect them so it is about teachers. You know what I'm saying.

So true!!!

So true. If that many teachers were upset about MCEA or didn’t like what they mostly did, then the simple answer would be to stop paying those Union Dues. Or get together with a bunch of like minded teachers and have a chat with the union president.

MCEA business model is supposed to be about protecting and supporting teachers. If it’s not accomplishing that, then its key stakeholders should make that known.

Shut up. Previous poster said they stopped paying union dues. “So true” spoken like someone who truly has no idea what they are talking about.

Who said they stopped paying dues? And eho said people that left the union should vote?

In the above chain, one teacher said all they can do is leave the union, not that she actually left. And the other poster suggested meeting with the union president.

Regardless, if you agree the union negotiating on your behalf is making you and your profession look bad, why don’t you want to do anything about it?

Because I have better things to do. I don’t really care about optics. I do my job. I’m not here to appease whiny, ignorant, DCUM scum.