Dating a conservative

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Anonymous wrote:A cultural conservative finds value in community, volunteering, conserving, tradition, wisdom, family and athleticism.

None of those are Republican values. No more so than Democratic.

Didn’t say they were.

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Anonymous wrote:A cultural conservative finds value in community, volunteering, conserving, tradition, wisdom, family and athleticism.

None of those are Republican values. No more so than Democratic.

Didn’t say they were.

Or conservative vs liberal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Conservative, like old school Reagan type? Or a "Conservative" as in current GOP politics?

I can tell you after 20 years of marriage to a man who was a Conservative when we married (I'm a middle of the road Dem, not a Progressive and a Joe Manchin-type probably represents my ideals best), but has since gulped the Fox News kool-aid and is now an election denier, thinks Jan. 6 was no big deal, Tucker Carlson is right about everything, it can be a nightmare. I can not discuss anything political with him because he's grown so extreme.

I’ve read a lot of this thread, and I honestly can’t argue ideology and don’t much care, but the above has been my exact experience. Maybe it will be better for you, OP, since you know what topics to avoid, but I feel like there are land mines that might explode at any point in my marriage.
I thought it would be better after it came out that FOX news basically made up the election denial stuff in order to increase ratings, but it just made other landmines. I’m guessing that FOX is saying that other news outlets basically lied about other events (Jan 6th being one) the way that Fox did with the election.

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Anonymous wrote:OP you need to consider what his conservative values are beyond who he votes for.

Will he expect you to change your name when you marry? Would he support you terminating an unwanted or unviable pregnancy? Would he treat your daughters the same as your sons? Would he contribute equally in the home?

I have a very conservative husband and I still have my name after 20+ years of marriage, he was very supporting during my abortion, he treats our daughters very well (they are apple in his eyes), and he contribute 80% toward all house work (I don't cook and I don't clean).

What was he up to 1/6/21?

Does he make fun of people who drive EVs?

Is he someone who feels straight white men are misunderstood victims?

NP my conservative H was a former Capitol police officer so he sad watching in utter disbelief that the bathroom guard had not been called.

He watch BLM protests and explained laws to my children describing every crime police were committing.

He drives a hybrid.

Conservative values believe everybody deserves dignity. Even white males.

Bullcrap.

White men already have “dignity”. And conservatives don’t think women should control their own body - that’s not dignity.

Again you are talking about alt-right and theocrats not conservatives

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Anonymous wrote:OP you need to consider what his conservative values are beyond who he votes for.

Will he expect you to change your name when you marry? Would he support you terminating an unwanted or unviable pregnancy? Would he treat your daughters the same as your sons? Would he contribute equally in the home?

I have a very conservative husband and I still have my name after 20+ years of marriage, he was very supporting during my abortion, he treats our daughters very well (they are apple in his eyes), and he contribute 80% toward all house work (I don't cook and I don't clean).

Then your DH is no longer really a conservative. He's what MAGA would call a RINO.

Nope, he even voted for Trump. You will be surprise how many republicans are not against abortion. I would suggest you go out and meet people instead of listening what media tells you about Republicans.

What does “very conservative” mean?

Why does he support Trump?

Why does he think his daughters shouldn’t have control over their own bodies?

What does “very conservative” mean? - he has conservative values.

Why does he support Trump? - financial reason, we benefited financially much more during Trump presidency. Security reasons, there were much less crime under Trump presidency.

Why does he think his daughters shouldn’t have control over their own bodies? - He does not think so. My daughters have full control of their own bodies.

What are “conservative values”?

He votes for politicians who are trying - and many succeeding - to take away their bodily autonomy. He isn’t protecting them or their rights.

And you voted for someone who believed in private jails and 3 strikes you are out which destroyed communities

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Anonymous wrote:OP you need to consider what his conservative values are beyond who he votes for.

Will he expect you to change your name when you marry? Would he support you terminating an unwanted or unviable pregnancy? Would he treat your daughters the same as your sons? Would he contribute equally in the home?

I have a very conservative husband and I still have my name after 20+ years of marriage, he was very supporting during my abortion, he treats our daughters very well (they are apple in his eyes), and he contribute 80% toward all house work (I don't cook and I don't clean).

Then your DH is no longer really a conservative. He's what MAGA would call a RINO.

Nope, he even voted for Trump. You will be surprise how many republicans are not against abortion. I would suggest you go out and meet people instead of listening what media tells you about Republicans.

But he will continue to vote for anti-abortion politicians because MAGA! right?

I know what Rs are like. I used to be one and was surrounded by them. MAGA care more about things like taxes and border walls and sticking it to the libs, not about women's rights. The conservatives I know who couldn't stand Trump left the R party.

You really think your DH would be supportive of his wife being a progressive and working on gender equality issues? LOL. You are the one confused about what it means to be conservative.

A lot of conservative men that I personally know are very supportive of their wives professions, regardless if they are agree with it or not. From my observation, they are overall more supportive husbands than liberal guys. Not statistics, just my personal experience.

How are “liberal guys” less supportive of their wives?

They don’t do any housework AND don’t do any outside work AND don’t do child care.

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Anonymous wrote:OP you need to consider what his conservative values are beyond who he votes for.

Will he expect you to change your name when you marry? Would he support you terminating an unwanted or unviable pregnancy? Would he treat your daughters the same as your sons? Would he contribute equally in the home?

I have a very conservative husband and I still have my name after 20+ years of marriage, he was very supporting during my abortion, he treats our daughters very well (they are apple in his eyes), and he contribute 80% toward all house work (I don't cook and I don't clean).

What was he up to 1/6/21?

Does he make fun of people who drive EVs?

Is he someone who feels straight white men are misunderstood victims?

NP my conservative H was a former Capitol police officer so he sad watching in utter disbelief that the bathroom guard had not been called.

He watch BLM protests and explained laws to my children describing every crime police were committing.

He drives a hybrid.

Conservative values believe everybody deserves dignity. Even white males.

Bullcrap.

White men already have “dignity”. And conservatives don’t think women should control their own body - that’s not dignity.

Again you are talking about alt-right and theocrats not conservatives

Sigh, they run the dhow now, while the moderates sit in their hands, too scared that opposing the crazy will force them to transition their kids to a different sex.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:A cultural conservative finds value in community, volunteering, conserving, tradition, wisdom, family and athleticism.

None of those are Republican values. No more so than Democratic.

I think they are.
I volunteer at a homeless shelter pretty regularly, and nearly all of the people volunteering would describe themselves as “conservative.” A conservative believes that social responsibility is best left in the community, and is therefore more likely to financially support and volunteer at local organizations. Someone who is more liberal might believe that these are better taken on by government sponsored organizations.

For example, one thing I hear often is that people are frustrated that many of the shelters and agencies providing support to people experiencing homelessness have religious or conservative values. The conservative reaction to that criticism is, “open your own shelters!” The liberal reaction is that there should be more government funding for housing or homeless shelters.

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Anonymous wrote:∆ NEVER date someone who wants to pay less in taxes!

How about someone who would sell their souls to the devil (AKA vote for Trump) to pay less in taxes?

How much less? And what services do you want to cut?

I want to reduce taxes for poor people. I also want to defund the police.

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Anonymous wrote:OP you need to consider what his conservative values are beyond who he votes for.

Will he expect you to change your name when you marry? Would he support you terminating an unwanted or unviable pregnancy? Would he treat your daughters the same as your sons? Would he contribute equally in the home?

I have a very conservative husband and I still have my name after 20+ years of marriage, he was very supporting during my abortion, he treats our daughters very well (they are apple in his eyes), and he contribute 80% toward all house work (I don't cook and I don't clean).

Then your DH is no longer really a conservative. He's what MAGA would call a RINO.

Nope, he even voted for Trump. You will be surprise how many republicans are not against abortion. I would suggest you go out and meet people instead of listening what media tells you about Republicans.

But he will continue to vote for anti-abortion politicians because MAGA! right?

I know what Rs are like. I used to be one and was surrounded by them. MAGA care more about things like taxes and border walls and sticking it to the libs, not about women's rights. The conservatives I know who couldn't stand Trump left the R party.

You really think your DH would be supportive of his wife being a progressive and working on gender equality issues? LOL. You are the one confused about what it means to be conservative.

A lot of conservative men that I personally know are very supportive of their wives professions, regardless if they are agree with it or not. From my observation, they are overall more supportive husbands than liberal guys. Not statistics, just my personal experience.

How are “liberal guys” less supportive of their wives?

They don’t do any housework AND don’t do any outside work AND don’t do child care.

some do, some don't, but they at least vote for policies that support women's rights and gender equality, and not forced birthing and want to force girls/women to have their rapist's babies.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:A cultural conservative finds value in community, volunteering, conserving, tradition, wisdom, family and athleticism.

None of those are Republican values. No more so than Democratic.

You are confusing Republican with conservative just like people confuse socialism with democrat.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a “small c” conservative. Meaning, I am frugal, buy used clothing, don’t use plastic water bottles, walk or bike wherever possible, use reusable bags, and show respect for others (elders included).

Is that what you meant, OP?

lol.. how you are different than a liberal in this way?

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Anonymous wrote:OP you need to consider what his conservative values are beyond who he votes for.

Will he expect you to change your name when you marry? Would he support you terminating an unwanted or unviable pregnancy? Would he treat your daughters the same as your sons? Would he contribute equally in the home?

I have a very conservative husband and I still have my name after 20+ years of marriage, he was very supporting during my abortion, he treats our daughters very well (they are apple in his eyes), and he contribute 80% toward all house work (I don't cook and I don't clean).

Then your DH is no longer really a conservative. He's what MAGA would call a RINO.

Nope, he even voted for Trump. You will be surprise how many republicans are not against abortion. I would suggest you go out and meet people instead of listening what media tells you about Republicans.

But he will continue to vote for anti-abortion politicians because MAGA! right?

I know what Rs are like. I used to be one and was surrounded by them. MAGA care more about things like taxes and border walls and sticking it to the libs, not about women's rights. The conservatives I know who couldn't stand Trump left the R party.

You really think your DH would be supportive of his wife being a progressive and working on gender equality issues? LOL. You are the one confused about what it means to be conservative.

A lot of conservative men that I personally know are very supportive of their wives professions, regardless if they are agree with it or not. From my observation, they are overall more supportive husbands than liberal guys. Not statistics, just my personal experience.

How are “liberal guys” less supportive of their wives?

They don’t do any housework AND don’t do any outside work AND don’t do child care.

some do, some don't, but they at least vote for policies that support women's rights and gender equality, and not forced birthing and want to force girls/women to have their rapist's babies.

Conservatives don’t vote for that either.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a “small c” conservative. Meaning, I am frugal, buy used clothing, don’t use plastic water bottles, walk or bike wherever possible, use reusable bags, and show respect for others (elders included).

Is that what you meant, OP?

lol.. how you are different than a liberal in this way?

Exactly conservatives and liberals are very similar.

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Anonymous wrote:OP you need to consider what his conservative values are beyond who he votes for.

Will he expect you to change your name when you marry? Would he support you terminating an unwanted or unviable pregnancy? Would he treat your daughters the same as your sons? Would he contribute equally in the home?

I have a very conservative husband and I still have my name after 20+ years of marriage, he was very supporting during my abortion, he treats our daughters very well (they are apple in his eyes), and he contribute 80% toward all house work (I don't cook and I don't clean).

Then your DH is no longer really a conservative. He's what MAGA would call a RINO.

Nope, he even voted for Trump. You will be surprise how many republicans are not against abortion. I would suggest you go out and meet people instead of listening what media tells you about Republicans.

But he will continue to vote for anti-abortion politicians because MAGA! right?

I know what Rs are like. I used to be one and was surrounded by them. MAGA care more about things like taxes and border walls and sticking it to the libs, not about women's rights. The conservatives I know who couldn't stand Trump left the R party.

You really think your DH would be supportive of his wife being a progressive and working on gender equality issues? LOL. You are the one confused about what it means to be conservative.

I worked through the entire marriage and he was always supportive and supported me through the grad school. I don't work on gender equality issues and I am not progressive. But my husband was always the one to take kids to practice, doctor appointments, to cook for them and to clean when we did not have maid. He is very supportive of our daughters who both chose very male dominated careers for themselves.

that's nice, but why does he vote for politicians who want to take your DD's right to control her own body?