Dating a conservative

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Anonymous wrote:OP you need to consider what his conservative values are beyond who he votes for.

Will he expect you to change your name when you marry? Would he support you terminating an unwanted or unviable pregnancy? Would he treat your daughters the same as your sons? Would he contribute equally in the home?

I have a very conservative husband and I still have my name after 20+ years of marriage, he was very supporting during my abortion, he treats our daughters very well (they are apple in his eyes), and he contribute 80% toward all house work (I don't cook and I don't clean).

Then your DH is no longer really a conservative. He's what MAGA would call a RINO.

Nope, he even voted for Trump. You will be surprise how many republicans are not against abortion. I would suggest you go out and meet people instead of listening what media tells you about Republicans.

But he will continue to vote for anti-abortion politicians because MAGA! right?

I know what Rs are like. I used to be one and was surrounded by them. MAGA care more about things like taxes and border walls and sticking it to the libs, not about women's rights. The conservatives I know who couldn't stand Trump left the R party.

You really think your DH would be supportive of his wife being a progressive and working on gender equality issues? LOL. You are the one confused about what it means to be conservative.

I worked through the entire marriage and he was always supportive and supported me through the grad school. I don't work on gender equality issues and I am not progressive. But my husband was always the one to take kids to practice, doctor appointments, to cook for them and to clean when we did not have maid. He is very supportive of our daughters who both chose very male dominated careers for themselves.

that's nice, but why does he vote for politicians who want to take your DD's right to control her own body?

Do you believe that politicians have to run your life?

They shouldn't, hence, they shouldn't take away a women's right to choose her reproductive rights. Why does your DH support such politicians if you think politicians shouldn't run your life?

My DH doesn’t really vote.
But you really can’t think of anything to do to support women’s rights than to vote one way or another? Don’t you volunteer to babysit so single moms can work or try to get people out of prisons or anything? Anything at all?

? Your DH doesn't vote? Why not? If he supports a women's right to choose he should be voting.

I support single moms with my taxes. I don't mind paying for a single mom to afford childcare so that she can work. Conservatives, oth, think such a mom should pull herself by her bootstraps, or better yet, she should've kept her legs closed, or maybe taken shlt from her husband and stay married.

I don’t know. The conservatives I see at the shelter for pregnant women don’t seem to say anything like that. They seem to be supporting single moms with diapers and formula and babysitting.
How is it going to you to support people exclusively with your taxes?

Are those conservatives at the sheltering wiring single moms $1700/month for daycare?

If not then they need to butt the F out of women’s reproductive decisions

Uhmm…do you not even know any poor people? They have vouchers for daycare.

DP.. do you live in a bubble? Not all counties have such programs.

If conservatives care so much about poor people, why did so many conservative states decline the medicaid expansion?

I’m not saying that ALL conservatives care about poor people. Clearly, there are many conservative politicians who don’t. I’m just saying that, of the people who care, the are EXCLUSIVELY conservative. There are no liberal people handing out water bottles and clean needles to heroin addicts.

I bet you live in an area with a lot of conservatives, and that's why you see a lot more conservatives around. Tell us where you live.

I don't know any conservative who would go around passing out clean needles. Conservatives largely believe that drug addicts are weak in character and need rehab.

Where is this bastion of conservatives that help single moms with childcare and handout clean needles. Next, you'll tell us that conservatives in your area support drag queen shows, and help them put their makeup on.

Well, why don’t you go out and pass around clean needles this weekend and see who else is there? One hundred bucks says that Jesus is their savior, and they will tell you that we are all weak in character.
(I don’t know anyone who doesn’t say that addicts need rehab.)

Doesn't answer the question.

Where is this bastion of conservatives that go around passing out needles and babysitting for single moms.

Here you go, here is just one.

https://www.wjacademy.org/

Can you post a free private school that liberals have started and run?

Yes, it’s called a public school. Liberals believe in public goods.

So your answer is none. Actually liberals believe the poors should go to public school while they send their kids to private or buy a house in a redlined neighborhood.

The Catholic Church is tax-exempt, so it is far simpler for them to start a school than a liberal organization, which would not easily have tax exempt status.

DP: Actually all you do is file the paperwork. https://www.expresstaxexempt.com/exempt-organizations/schools/

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Anonymous wrote:OP, just saying "conservative" (or liberal) doesn't really give us enough information to know what the guy is like and how his world view (or yours) might limit your life together. It may not.

Is he politically or personally conservative or both? There is a difference. What are his personal values? How does his live his life? How does he treat others, especially those in different life situations than he is in? What are his views on the big questions in marriage (money, work, children, church, extended family, fidelity, how to compromise, how to handle arguments)? How does he handle discussions with people who have different views than he has on hot topics? does he have the maturity and integrity to admit he might not have all the answers or to split his political views by topic (agreeing with some platform issues, but not others)?

There is a lot more to people than the labels folks throw around these days.

OP is a troll, she did not respond to any questions addressed to her.

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Liberal or conservative, anyone who has views that they are completely certain about is generally uneducated in that topic. Once you understand something, you see that everything has nuances and there is some validity in multiple different perspectives.

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Anonymous wrote:Liberal or conservative, anyone who has views that they are completely certain about is generally uneducated in that topic. Once you understand something, you see that everything has nuances and there is some validity in multiple different perspectives.

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Don't date card carrying Republicans or Democrats, they're insufferable.

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Anonymous wrote:Her political views were batshit crazy but she was better in bed than anyone else I have known. Completely uninhibited yet loved to play the submissive role.

Sounds like you ran into my ex-wife.

Swallowed like a champion.

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Anonymous wrote:NOPE. Don't do it. It's all fun and games until you have children and he's pushing his values on them.

Or she’s telling their children they can choose whatever sex they want to be.

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Anonymous wrote:Her political views were batshit crazy but she was better in bed than anyone else I have known. Completely uninhibited yet loved to play the submissive role.

Sounds like you ran into my ex-wife.

Swallowed like a champion.

Nope, not her.

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Seen this before - in a decade or two he'll have you at church declaring your subservience to the natural order of things, like how a wife is supposed to serve a husband who really runs the family. Maybe you're a closet progressive and really want the man running your life (security, social standing, etc..) so be it. But don't wKe up in 20 years and declare him. Neandorthal and be surprised he didn't change.

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Republican women have been more willing to give bj’s than democratic women

Mid thirties’ poc here….I don’t ask for bj’s as it’s fine if i don’t get them but republican women insist on their own that they want to right from the beginning. They also want to randomly give them when I am not expecting it.

Democratic women half-ass it after feeling guilty that I give oral but they normally don’t.

Just an interesting observation

so R women have been conditioned to please men, but D women have been conditioned to please themselves.

Or…R women are more loving and giving, while D women are cold and selfish.

Whatever your interpretation, if the PP’s assessment of the sexual proclivities of R and D women is correct, I wonder which men would prefer??

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In terms of sexual attraction? Loving and giving versus cold and selfish? Is this even a question?

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Republican women have been more willing to give bj’s than democratic women

Mid thirties’ poc here….I don’t ask for bj’s as it’s fine if i don’t get them but republican women insist on their own that they want to right from the beginning. They also want to randomly give them when I am not expecting it.

Democratic women half-ass it after feeling guilty that I give oral but they normally don’t.

Just an interesting observation

so R women have been conditioned to please men, but D women have been conditioned to please themselves.

Or…R women are more loving and giving, while D women are cold and selfish.

Whatever your interpretation, if the PP’s assessment of the sexual proclivities of R and D women is correct, I wonder which men would prefer??

Blow up doll vs partner who has her own interests/desires?

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Anonymous wrote:So, to make sure that no one wastes too much time with someone who is politically incompatible, progressive/Democratic women, on the first date or prior to it, should make a point of asking the guy, "You agree that every woman has the absolute right to have their unborn fetus killed, of course? It's just equal rights, which I insist upon. Oh by the way you're paying for my dinner, right? I'll have the porterhouse steak & lobster tail combo."

Or, all women should ask on the first date, "You agree that a woman who is raped should be forced to give birth to the rapist's baby?".

Or how about, "If you agree that some white men can force women to give birth to their rapist's baby, then should white women have the right to force all men to get vasectomies?"

My response to your question would be, "I agree that in our Constitutional republic, the U.S. Supreme Court has the final ruling on legal issues. In the case of Hobbs, while I agree with the Roberts dissent/concurrence, the final ruling is that of the majority. Even though I think that was probably mistaken, that is the law. The issue has been returned to the individual states (or to Congress acting as a whole for the whole country). If you believe judicial decisions of the United States Supreme Court should be ignored, is it because you are some kind of Supreme Court-denier, or even an insurrectionist? Even Ruth Bader Ginsburg believed that Roe was poorly decided, both legally and politically. Do you think RBG was a misogynist? For that matter, do you know anything at all about the law? Have you actually ever read Roe v. Wade? Have you actually ever read the Hobbs decision?"

I would also respond by saying "Your focus on the race and gender of those to whom you attribute the Hobbs decision marks you as an overt racist and misandrist. Did your parents train you to be a racist? If not, who did?"
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NP and this is such a steaming pile of strawman bullsh!t. No one was asserting that we should overthrow SCOTUS, or that Hobbs isn't the law. The question was your position on abortion, not your position on the sanctity of the Court.

OMG. It’s DOBBS.

Hilarious watching people try to debate the law when they can’t even get the case name correct.

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Not going to read these replies but OP this is a NO for you since you asked which means you care about it. IMO his views don’t matter because his vote is the equivalent of screaming by himself in the woods in DC —(unless live in Frederick or someplace way out beyond Loudon).

You would really have to do a line item review of situational questioning him on his views towards household chores, finances, child rearing and end of life issues and even then he could lie

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My good friend is married to one. They absolutely do not discuss politics. Even visitors cannot discuss politics in their house

The man is an idiot and overly sensitive about political discussions.

But it works for them.