Idaho Murder Suspect Bryan Kohberger - arrest warrant affadavit

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Anonymous wrote:I am tired of the roommates being blamed.

And? What if your daughter's roommate did nothing while your kid got murdered. She was safely locked in her room. Her inaction for seven hours inexcusable.

She lived in a party house with a bunch of roommates, and drunken shenanigans at all hours. She knew enough to feel nervous but obviously never imagined MURDERS were taking place. Ffs some of you people are heartless.

No, I read the evidence. It's heartless to hide in your room like a coward.

What was her alcohol number? Just a little tipsy or on the brink of alcohol poisoning?

I’m asking about the roommate here.

I doubt they tested her, there would be no cause to.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. The surviving roommate heard and saw the suspect leave. A shame.

Sounds like solid DNA evidence.

This blows my mind. She also heard crying? I assume she was the one who called 911.

I'm also struck by the suspect's attorney?/family? saying he expects to be exonerated. I realize that was a few days ago, but coming to the realization that your immediate family probably did this has got to shake you to your foundation.

If she was the one who called 911, she waited 12 hours to do it.

I'm trying to think of it through the roommate witness's eyes. It sounds like she was at the same frat party as the roommate couple. Maybe had some drinks and wasn't 100% confident in what she saw/heard? Thought it could have been boyfriend/ girlfriend arguing? Decided to sleep it off. I mean, never in a million years could you imagine your roommates are being murdered, right???

She saw him leave, wearing a mask. Are you kidding me? She was scared enough to lock herself in her room, but didn't call? WTH

I cant stop obsessing over this fact too. Wtf. No. You have a cell phone. Dial 911. Don’t even say anything if you are scared. Lives could have been saved. I am heartbroken for those families.

Do we know her cell phone was in the room she was locked in?

No, but it almost certainly was. Kids have their phones on them 24/7. They don’t charge it out of their room or anything.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. The surviving roommate heard and saw the suspect leave. A shame.

Sounds like solid DNA evidence.

This blows my mind. She also heard crying? I assume she was the one who called 911.

I'm also struck by the suspect's attorney?/family? saying he expects to be exonerated. I realize that was a few days ago, but coming to the realization that your immediate family probably did this has got to shake you to your foundation.

If she was the one who called 911, she waited 12 hours to do it.

I'm trying to think of it through the roommate witness's eyes. It sounds like she was at the same frat party as the roommate couple. Maybe had some drinks and wasn't 100% confident in what she saw/heard? Thought it could have been boyfriend/ girlfriend arguing? Decided to sleep it off. I mean, never in a million years could you imagine your roommates are being murdered, right???

This times a 1000. She probably assumed an argument or fraternity prank.

And she listening, it was quiet, so she assumed everything was okay. Poor thing.

Exactly. She will be haunted by and judged for this until the day she dies.

Have compassion people. What a hand to be dealt in life.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. The surviving roommate heard and saw the suspect leave. A shame.

Sounds like solid DNA evidence.

This blows my mind. She also heard crying? I assume she was the one who called 911.

I'm also struck by the suspect's attorney?/family? saying he expects to be exonerated. I realize that was a few days ago, but coming to the realization that your immediate family probably did this has got to shake you to your foundation.

If she was the one who called 911, she waited 12 hours to do it.

I'm trying to think of it through the roommate witness's eyes. It sounds like she was at the same frat party as the roommate couple. Maybe had some drinks and wasn't 100% confident in what she saw/heard? Thought it could have been boyfriend/ girlfriend arguing? Decided to sleep it off. I mean, never in a million years could you imagine your roommates are being murdered, right???

She saw him leave, wearing a mask. Are you kidding me? She was scared enough to lock herself in her room, but didn't call? WTH

I cant stop obsessing over this fact too. Wtf. No. You have a cell phone. Dial 911. Don’t even say anything if you are scared. Lives could have been saved. I am heartbroken for those families.

Do we know her cell phone was in the room she was locked in?

No, but it almost certainly was. Kids have their phones on them 24/7. They don’t charge it out of their room or anything.

Slow your roll, miss marple. if the girl had easy access to her phone and understood what was happening she “almost certainly” would have called 911 unless she was paralyzed with fear and terrified of drawing the killer’s attention.

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Anonymous wrote:A kid who has been out partying is not going to call the cops unless she has a reason to think a crime was committed.
My kids would be the same way--we have always told them to run from the cops if they break up a party they're attending where drinking/pot is involved.
Kids are told for years that cops are not their friends (in as much as a police record can be really, really bad for your future).
These kids were on the cusp of 21 but old habits die hard.

I was never told anything like that, nor did I tell my kids anything like that. Just saying.

I guess it depends what your kids are into.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. The surviving roommate heard and saw the suspect leave. A shame.

Sounds like solid DNA evidence.

This blows my mind. She also heard crying? I assume she was the one who called 911.

I'm also struck by the suspect's attorney?/family? saying he expects to be exonerated. I realize that was a few days ago, but coming to the realization that your immediate family probably did this has got to shake you to your foundation.

If she was the one who called 911, she waited 12 hours to do it.

I'm trying to think of it through the roommate witness's eyes. It sounds like she was at the same frat party as the roommate couple. Maybe had some drinks and wasn't 100% confident in what she saw/heard? Thought it could have been boyfriend/ girlfriend arguing? Decided to sleep it off. I mean, never in a million years could you imagine your roommates are being murdered, right???

This times a 1000. She probably assumed an argument or fraternity prank.

And she listening, it was quiet, so she assumed everything was okay. Poor thing.

Exactly. She will be haunted by and judged for this until the day she dies.

Have compassion people. What a hand to be dealt in life.

And if she were my daughter, I'd be telling her she did nothing wrong, she is not the one who committed these crimes, nothing she did could have saved them, etc. and I'd definitely be sending her to grief/trauma counseling for as long as it takes, as often as she needs. She will never be the same again.

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Anonymous wrote:A kid who has been out partying is not going to call the cops unless she has a reason to think a crime was committed.
My kids would be the same way--we have always told them to run from the cops if they break up a party they're attending where drinking/pot is involved.
Kids are told for years that cops are not their friends (in as much as a police record can be really, really bad for your future).
These kids were on the cusp of 21 but old habits die hard.

I was never told anything like that, nor did I tell my kids anything like that. Just saying.

I guess it depends what your kids are into.

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Anonymous wrote:Note to self: no large group homes for DD in college.

Honestly, this is a freak occurrence. Random killings like this are exceedingly rare. The person most likely to harm your DD would be her significant other, or someone else she knows.

I don't want random men she doesn't know traipsing through the house at 4am and no one thinking this is weird at all, per so many people on this thread. No thanks. A dorm, or an apartment with 1-2 roomates max.

Lol those 1-2 roommates will do what they want. Good luck, PP. Godspeed.

You do understand that not all college females are the same, right? None of my college roomates had "random" guys sleep over. There wasn't a ton of sleeping over at all, and when there was, they were boyfriends. Not randoms.

But how do you vet this?

Each subsequent time I found new housing in college, most of the females didn’t have boyfriends AT THE TIME, yet every year they did by spring.

And you let random people sleep on your couch because it’s better than the alternative. You don’t seek them out, it happens.

I was a goody two shoes and it happened. You have this utopian idea of how you are going to control your adult daughters adult roommates, but you won’t. Maybe expensive single housing will be best for her.

I think some if you are dealing with outdated notions. At my daughter’s college you signed a contract that contained your agreement about things like whether people could sleep over. My daughter had veto power.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. The surviving roommate heard and saw the suspect leave. A shame.

Sounds like solid DNA evidence.

This blows my mind. She also heard crying? I assume she was the one who called 911.

I'm also struck by the suspect's attorney?/family? saying he expects to be exonerated. I realize that was a few days ago, but coming to the realization that your immediate family probably did this has got to shake you to your foundation.

If she was the one who called 911, she waited 12 hours to do it.

I'm trying to think of it through the roommate witness's eyes. It sounds like she was at the same frat party as the roommate couple. Maybe had some drinks and wasn't 100% confident in what she saw/heard? Thought it could have been boyfriend/ girlfriend arguing? Decided to sleep it off. I mean, never in a million years could you imagine your roommates are being murdered, right???

She saw him leave, wearing a mask. Are you kidding me? She was scared enough to lock herself in her room, but didn't call? WTH

I cant stop obsessing over this fact too. Wtf. No. You have a cell phone. Dial 911. Don’t even say anything if you are scared. Lives could have been saved. I am heartbroken for those families.

Do we know her cell phone was in the room she was locked in?

No, but it almost certainly was. Kids have their phones on them 24/7. They don’t charge it out of their room or anything.

Slow your roll, miss marple. if the girl had easy access to her phone and understood what was happening she “almost certainly” would have called 911 unless she was paralyzed with fear and terrified of drawing the killer’s attention.

You think the only reason she didn’t call is because she didn’t have her phone and she waited 8 full hours until it was safe to come out? That’s a moronic take.

She had her phone.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope we do someday know the motive, but its possible we never will.

What are the chances this was all written out as part of his PhD thesis? It would be interesting to read. I'm willing to bet he singled out the one victim because she's the blonde, fun, party girl, popular on campus. The kind of victim America loves to give attention.

I think he was in his first semester of a doctoral program, so literally YEARS away from coming up with a thesis. Many DCUM posters do not seem to understand how doctoral training works.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. The surviving roommate heard and saw the suspect leave. A shame.

Sounds like solid DNA evidence.

This blows my mind. She also heard crying? I assume she was the one who called 911.

I'm also struck by the suspect's attorney?/family? saying he expects to be exonerated. I realize that was a few days ago, but coming to the realization that your immediate family probably did this has got to shake you to your foundation.

If she was the one who called 911, she waited 12 hours to do it.

I'm trying to think of it through the roommate witness's eyes. It sounds like she was at the same frat party as the roommate couple. Maybe had some drinks and wasn't 100% confident in what she saw/heard? Thought it could have been boyfriend/ girlfriend arguing? Decided to sleep it off. I mean, never in a million years could you imagine your roommates are being murdered, right???

She saw him leave, wearing a mask. Are you kidding me? She was scared enough to lock herself in her room, but didn't call? WTH

I cant stop obsessing over this fact too. Wtf. No. You have a cell phone. Dial 911. Don’t even say anything if you are scared. Lives could have been saved. I am heartbroken for those families.

Do we know her cell phone was in the room she was locked in?

No, but it almost certainly was. Kids have their phones on them 24/7. They don’t charge it out of their room or anything.

Slow your roll, miss marple. if the girl had easy access to her phone and understood what was happening she “almost certainly” would have called 911 unless she was paralyzed with fear and terrified of drawing the killer’s attention.

You think the only reason she didn’t call is because she didn’t have her phone and she waited 8 full hours until it was safe to come out? That’s a moronic take.

She had her phone.

Maybe she thought she was hallucinating.

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Weren't the kids already stabbed when she saw him in Gehrig hallway?

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She did something right because she is alive. Leave her be.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. The surviving roommate heard and saw the suspect leave. A shame.

Sounds like solid DNA evidence.

This blows my mind. She also heard crying? I assume she was the one who called 911.

I'm also struck by the suspect's attorney?/family? saying he expects to be exonerated. I realize that was a few days ago, but coming to the realization that your immediate family probably did this has got to shake you to your foundation.

If she was the one who called 911, she waited 12 hours to do it.

I'm trying to think of it through the roommate witness's eyes. It sounds like she was at the same frat party as the roommate couple. Maybe had some drinks and wasn't 100% confident in what she saw/heard? Thought it could have been boyfriend/ girlfriend arguing? Decided to sleep it off. I mean, never in a million years could you imagine your roommates are being murdered, right???

She saw him leave, wearing a mask. Are you kidding me? She was scared enough to lock herself in her room, but didn't call? WTH

Maybe her phone was charging in another room? poor thing is traumatized

She’s going to face a lot of criticism poor girl. Fight, flight and freeze is real but her reaction in this scenario will be seen as extremely rare.

Based on the relative lack of noise, I don't think so.

I’ve been following Reddit. Many view the more common reaction when not dialing for help being to run for help after seeing the perpetrator leave. Children have done this before, adults as well. There’s another similar crime where a young woman in a home where roommates were killed escaped with her dog to the backyard though she was apparently without access to a phone. She was escaping from a floor beneath the crime scene into a fenced in yard with no escape route.

You're talking about scenarios where witnesses knew others were being attacked. She didn't!

How did she know her crying roomate wasn't sexually assualted or something though?

she could have been crying because she saw her boyfriend killed.

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Anonymous wrote:Elizabeth Smarts sister saw her be taken and didn’t say anything.

It took months for her brain to allow the memory to come forward and give the FBI a description.

She was a child

Children’s brains are not different. Either your brain fights, flees or freezes. She literally locked memories away for months because of trauma. You have no idea how trauma works.

Also you don’t know the history of the girl, she might have had trauma in her childhood, or in HS, or college. Considering 1 in 4 women have trauma it’s not unlikely.

The reality is a lay person such as yourself does not understand the brain during trauma.

And you don’t seem to know much about the credibility of children’s testimony.