Why are Northern Kids Flocking to Southern Universities?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They have always done this. I went to a private school in the south and 85% of the out of state kids were from NY, NJ, MA.

They want to go somewhere warm and then realize quality of life is way better in the blue states up north.

Quality of life? Until they have to send their kids to school...

You are ignorant. There are terrific school districts in the SE just like in the NE. Think about it. Do you think DC has excellent public schools? What about Arlington?

Not as good as public schools in the Northeast.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's not just "Northern Kids"; people from all over the country are going to these schools for various reasons. Not sure why this would bother people on here or why anyone would care, unless your kid is planning on applying.

DCUM gets mad when people actually like the South.

I have noticed this.

Ye must strive for the Ivies, UVA, or an overpriced SLAC on DCUM's "approved" list.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DCUM lives in some kind of alternate universe where they things that they think really matter to the overwhelming majority of college students and their parents actually don’t.

Very few families are writing off colleges because of vaccine mandates. Very few families are writing off colleges in red states because of abortion laws. Etc.

High school students are choosing southern colleges for the weather, the atmosphere, the sports, the fun, and yes because there are many good ones with higher acceptance rates. Parents are drawn to these schools because often the cost is lower.

End of story.

Nope. Get out of your bubble.

https://www.bestcolleges.com/research/roe-v-wade-impacts-college-students/
“39% of Prospective Undergrads Say Roe v. Wade Ruling Impacts College Decision
The majority of students oppose the U.S. Supreme Court's decision overturning Roe v. Wade and desire to attend college in a state that legally protects the right to an abortion.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DCUM lives in some kind of alternate universe where they things that they think really matter to the overwhelming majority of college students and their parents actually don’t.

Very few families are writing off colleges because of vaccine mandates. Very few families are writing off colleges in red states because of abortion laws. Etc.

High school students are choosing southern colleges for the weather, the atmosphere, the sports, the fun, and yes because there are many good ones with higher acceptance rates. Parents are drawn to these schools because often the cost is lower.

End of story.

Nope. Get out of your bubble.

https://www.bestcolleges.com/research/roe-v-wade-impacts-college-students/
“39% of Prospective Undergrads Say Roe v. Wade Ruling Impacts College Decision
The majority of students oppose the U.S. Supreme Court's decision overturning Roe v. Wade and desire to attend college in a state that legally protects the right to an abortion.”

I thought DCUM loved vaccine mandates and preferred to send their kids to a place where vaccines were, in fact, mandated? Has the tide changed?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DCUM lives in some kind of alternate universe where they things that they think really matter to the overwhelming majority of college students and their parents actually don’t.

Very few families are writing off colleges because of vaccine mandates. Very few families are writing off colleges in red states because of abortion laws. Etc.

High school students are choosing southern colleges for the weather, the atmosphere, the sports, the fun, and yes because there are many good ones with higher acceptance rates. Parents are drawn to these schools because often the cost is lower.

End of story.

Ch 9 The Story is Not Over!

Kids do care about the abortion laws and vaccination requirements because, in addition to their own issues, they are indicators of other potential issues from an ignorant, angry political climate. My kid is bi and very worried that some of the legislatures that passed abortion bans and vaccine mandate bans will also pass restrictions on LGBTQ. She does not want to be in an environment like Florida where the laws suggest who she is is not acceptable content for young people's reading material. It feels like an attack on her identity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DCUM lives in some kind of alternate universe where they things that they think really matter to the overwhelming majority of college students and their parents actually don’t.

Very few families are writing off colleges because of vaccine mandates. Very few families are writing off colleges in red states because of abortion laws. Etc.

High school students are choosing southern colleges for the weather, the atmosphere, the sports, the fun, and yes because there are many good ones with higher acceptance rates. Parents are drawn to these schools because often the cost is lower.

End of story.

Ch 9 The Story is Not Over!

Kids do care about the abortion laws and vaccination requirements because, in addition to their own issues, they are indicators of other potential issues from an ignorant, angry political climate. My kid is bi and very worried that some of the legislatures that passed abortion bans and vaccine mandate bans will also pass restrictions on LGBTQ. She does not want to be in an environment like Florida where the laws suggest who she is is not acceptable content for young people's reading material. It feels like an attack on her identity.

Exactly. It’s the underlying political climate that is the issue. It’s not limited to devaluing women, science, transgender, etc.

[Anonymous]

Well there’s not much evidence that the 39 percent is actually putting their money where their mouth is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well there’s not much evidence that the 39 percent is actually putting their money where their mouth is.

It just happened 6 months ago. Applications aren’t even all in yet for the current cycle. It will take a few years to have meaningful numbers to quantify the impact.

The point was that it’s a real concern for many kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They have always done this. I went to a private school in the south and 85% of the out of state kids were from NY, NJ, MA.

They want to go somewhere warm and then realize quality of life is way better in the blue states up north.

Quality of life? Until they have to send their kids to school...

You are ignorant. There are terrific school districts in the SE just like in the NE. Think about it. Do you think DC has excellent public schools? What about Arlington?

Not as good as public schools in the Northeast.

There are comparable high schools, but southern districts tend to be larger so the districts as a whole are usually not as good. Public school districts in the Northeast are so small that those centered around well off areas may as well be private schools. I guess we should congratulate them for skillful economic segregation?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well there’s not much evidence that the 39 percent is actually putting their money where their mouth is.

It just happened 6 months ago. Applications aren’t even all in yet for the current cycle. It will take a few years to have meaningful numbers to quantify the impact.

The point was that it’s a real concern for many kids.

Good for those kids. South Eastern and South Western flagships tend to be incredibly generous with merit aid. The price difference between on of those schools with merit and their in state flag ship could be easily approach 100k. Not every kid can afford to take a stand, but great for the rich kids who can

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They have always done this. I went to a private school in the south and 85% of the out of state kids were from NY, NJ, MA.

They want to go somewhere warm and then realize quality of life is way better in the blue states up north.

Quality of life? Until they have to send their kids to school...

You are ignorant. There are terrific school districts in the SE just like in the NE. Think about it. Do you think DC has excellent public schools? What about Arlington?

Not as good as public schools in the Northeast.

There are comparable high schools, but southern districts tend to be larger so the districts as a whole are usually not as good. Public school districts in the Northeast are so small that those centered around well off areas may as well be private schools. I guess we should congratulate them for skillful economic segregation?

Even the less affluent areas have better schools. When you try to make schools into educational factories the quality of education goes way down. Kids aren’t widgets.

[Anonymous]

Is this really true though? I feel like the only school I see kids consistently turn down Ivies for is Duke. At my kid's school Duke is more desirable than half the Ivies, but after that the dropoff for Southern schools is quite large. Very few kids would pick, say Vanderbilt or Rice, over an Ivy, and certainly not Emory or Wake Forest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is this really true though? I feel like the only school I see kids consistently turn down Ivies for is Duke. At my kid's school Duke is more desirable than half the Ivies, but after that the dropoff for Southern schools is quite large. Very few kids would pick, say Vanderbilt or Rice, over an Ivy, and certainly not Emory or Wake Forest.

Do you realize how small a portion of kids care at all about the Ivies? Nothing you said negates OP's premise

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not just "Northern Kids"; people from all over the country are going to these schools for various reasons. Not sure why this would bother people on here or why anyone would care, unless your kid is planning on applying.

DCUM gets mad when people actually like the South.

and despite the warm weather, the South is evidently full of snowflakes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not just "Northern Kids"; people from all over the country are going to these schools for various reasons. Not sure why this would bother people on here or why anyone would care, unless your kid is planning on applying.

DCUM gets mad when people actually like the South.

There's at least one wacko on here from college confidential who gets unhinged when people detail how miserable midwest is.