Why are Northern Kids Flocking to Southern Universities?

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Anonymous wrote:The north is largely a wasteland. The south is new, booming and moneyed. Warm weather makes college fun, cold weather makes college miserable.

I see the kids are done with their pre-algebra homework.

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Not a response on the merits. Go back to yelling at the Progressive commercials.

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Anonymous wrote:I think only white kids go south. We are Asian and would not consider a Southern school, besides UVa.

You don't speak for Asians.
Duke, Emory, Vanderbilt, Georgia Tech, Rice are plenty popular.

This is ridiculous. Have you been to Texas? 20% of UT student body is Asian with same at Univ of Houston. 40% at Rice and nearly 10% at the remaining TX schools. And all Texas schools have greater Hispanic populations than the entirety of the NE. As a Hispanic myself, I'd much rather be in school in Texas than anywhere on the E coast. Y'all just need to get out more.

I'm Hispanic and would not send my kid to school in Texas, not a diverse representation of Hispanics there. Mostly all are Mexican or Mexican decent.

I think you mean descent. What actually is wrong with being of Mexican descent? The border between Mexico and Texas has been historically fluid, so it makes sense that Texas would have a lot of Mexicans. My Mexican in-laws call Texas “occupied Mexico.”

Apparently some Hispanics around here think the Hispanics in Texas are the wrong kind of diversity or something. 🙄

And this is why you cannot lump all Hispanics into a single voting block. There is a lot of disdain for other groups. PP above (way above) thinks Mexican-Americans are the wrong kind of Hispanic. Because superiority. It's ok. We have the better food

Many (most?) Latin Americans believe there is a serious hierarchy when it comes to Latin American (Central and South) countries. Mexico is considered by these folks to be on the bottom rung. Its one reason those from the “better” countries like Argentina and Columbia are very insulted when ignorant Americans call them Mexicans. Serioysly. It’s ridiculous that people in the US lump them all together.

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Anonymous wrote:I think only white kids go south. We are Asian and would not consider a Southern school, besides UVa.

You don't speak for Asians.
Duke, Emory, Vanderbilt, Georgia Tech, Rice are plenty popular.

This is ridiculous. Have you been to Texas? 20% of UT student body is Asian with same at Univ of Houston. 40% at Rice and nearly 10% at the remaining TX schools. And all Texas schools have greater Hispanic populations than the entirety of the NE. As a Hispanic myself, I'd much rather be in school in Texas than anywhere on the E coast. Y'all just need to get out more.

I'm Hispanic and would not send my kid to school in Texas, not a diverse representation of Hispanics there. Mostly all are Mexican or Mexican decent.

I think you mean descent. What actually is wrong with being of Mexican descent? The border between Mexico and Texas has been historically fluid, so it makes sense that Texas would have a lot of Mexicans. My Mexican in-laws call Texas “occupied Mexico.”

Apparently some Hispanics around here think the Hispanics in Texas are the wrong kind of diversity or something. 🙄

And this is why you cannot lump all Hispanics into a single voting block. There is a lot of disdain for other groups. PP above (way above) thinks Mexican-Americans are the wrong kind of Hispanic. Because superiority. It's ok. We have the better food

Many (most?) Latin Americans believe there is a serious hierarchy when it comes to Latin American (Central and South) countries. Mexico is considered by these folks to be on the bottom rung. Its one reason those from the “better” countries like Argentina and Columbia are very insulted when ignorant Americans call them Mexicans. Serioysly. It’s ridiculous that people in the US lump them all together.

No, what's ridiculous is that we separate ourselves into so many different groups when there really are no groups. You cannot possibly look at any given person and be able to say ANYTHING definitively about who they are (other than obvious physical attributes). Every individual must be approached without assumptions if we're going to have any chance at all of understanding who they really are. We'll get there sometime in the next 5 centuries.

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Are they really? I think because more kids in NE/Mid-Atlantic are getting excluded from top NE/west coast/Chicago schools, they are broadening their horizons to get acceptances somewhere. It's easier to gain admission to some of these schools. And, the warm weather is important to some (my niece chose for proximity to the beach).

But, most are going in state to MD or VA schools or hoping for top NE/Chicago/west coast schools. Will they include Ga Tech, Rice, U Fl and Tulane? Sure. Will they take big merit at Auburn or U S.Car over rejection at Amherst or USC? Sure. But, this is more about available options than the next hot thing that elicits "flocking." Still, it's good that students are expanding their ideas of good schools. These are all good schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The people shocked by the UGA application numbers reminded me of this article. It’s paywalled, but you can access it if you have Apple News.

To summarize, the kids interviewed say they are looking for a more “normal” college experience, whether as the result of less stringent Covid restrictions and/or less overt political activism (and, yes, the impact of new abortion laws is discussed). Auburn’s application numbers last year would indicate that the young woman interviewed who went to Auburn was not an isolated case.

https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/money-and-power/a41397404/southern-colleges-admissions-boom/

https://apple.news/A_qCsVporSlKxvlntKvvd3A


The process, Vincent says, was affecting her friends’ mental health, and she was vehemently turned off. So when her father, who went to college in the South, suggested she consider Auburn, a public university in eastern Alabama, she did. Within seconds of setting foot on Auburn’s lush, rolling campus—where stately brick buildings coexist with such world class amenities as a $72 million athletic facility with a huge, paw-shaped hot tub (Auburn’s mascot is a tiger)—she was smitten. “Out of all the campuses I toured it was easily the most beautiful. The number of people playing spike ball, throwing a frisbee, having picnics…” She also noted that back home it was much chillier. “Everyone just looked so happy” at Auburn. “I was like, This is where I need to go.”

Vincent, who enrolled the following year in Auburn’s Honors College, where she’s studying engineering, may sound like a quirky outlier: a New Yorker who decides to go rogue and attend a college in a deep red state that has a respectable 99 ranking among national universities on the sacrosanct U.S. News and World Report college list. But she is part of a growing trend among high school students in liberal hubs like New York, Boston, Los Angeles, and Chicago who are deciding to forgo the competitive, cutthroat environments of Colgate and Columbia for the more rah-rah vibe of places like Auburn, Southern Methodist University, Texas Christian University, Clemson, the University of Miami, and other Southern institutions that have traditionally been written off by coastal snobs as football-and-frat-party schools that let anyone with a measurable GPA in their doors.

Some Southern universities—Tulane, Emory, and Vanderbilt, for example—have long attracted a steady stream of non-Southerners thanks to reputations as rigorous schools in cool places…..These schools are not thought of as Southern Southern; the biggest subset of Tulane’s class of 2026—30 percent—is from the Northeast.

What’s different now is that lower-tier Southern schools have started to enter this desirable group. Fifty-seven percent of the incoming freshman class at Texas Christian University, a midsize school in Fort Worth—where students walk around in cowboy boots on the mornings of school football games and down BBQ and queso at the Stockyards, a preserved Western district in town—are from out of state. Seventeen percent of those hail from California. Compare that to 2008, when more than 70 percent of TCU’s incoming freshmen were from Texas. Thirty miles down the road, at Southern Methodist University, a $79,000-a-year, Tara-like oasis in the middle of Dallas famous for boulevarding (high-class tailgating) and alums like Bumble co-founder and CEO Whitney Wolfe Herd, 62 percent of this year’s incoming freshmen are from out of state.

This has been going on all over the South for 10+ years now. It has been even longer in GA. Many, many public uni. in the South have more out of state students than in state. I was president of my SEC school's alumni association while I lived in Atlanta. A handful of Southern states are running out of qualified in state applicants. They ramped up out of state recruiting several years ago by offering generous scholarships. There is spill over from GA to AL and MS because of the Hope Scholarship. I disagree that Tulane, Emory, Vandy are not thought of as Southern. They are just private. These Southern Universities do a fine job. There are more CEOs and movers and shakers coming from these lower tier schools than you may realize.

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Anonymous wrote:I think only white kids go south. We are Asian and would not consider a Southern school, besides UVa.

You don't speak for Asians.
Duke, Emory, Vanderbilt, Georgia Tech, Rice are plenty popular.

This is ridiculous. Have you been to Texas? 20% of UT student body is Asian with same at Univ of Houston. 40% at Rice and nearly 10% at the remaining TX schools. And all Texas schools have greater Hispanic populations than the entirety of the NE. As a Hispanic myself, I'd much rather be in school in Texas than anywhere on the E coast. Y'all just need to get out more.

+1 I think a lot of these posters have never been out of New England and have attended schools and lived in states with no fewer than 88% whites. They've lived their lives in a rarefied bubble. Their private high schools may be "diverse," but only if those "diverse" families have money.

100%. I'm from Texas and I was actually blown away by the lack of diversity on the E coast when I moved here. It is WHITE. I'm not really too bothered by that but there is some gall from the NE crowd to call the South "white". Texas is a minority majority state so y'all can just sit down with all that. We don't need to seek out diverse schools for our kids. The entire state is diverse. It's not some to-do list that we have for our kids. It never occurred to me that I'd need to find other Hispanic kids in schools. We are EVERYWHERE.

But ok, NE. Enjoy the bubble.

PP here. Exactly! Thank you.

+2 This weird narcissistic view that the South is just filled with a bunch of "stupid white boys" which has been uttered multiple times in this thread is completely ridiculous. Just reinforces my negative view of the NOVA and higher crowd that frequent this board. Completely out of touch narcissists that have no clue on how the rest of the country lives their lives.

so you hate stereotypes so much that you respond by stereotyping yourself.

NP. Idk. The people denigrating the southern schools in this thread demonstrably do not know what they are talking about. The Southern schools are objectively more diverse than the northeastern schools DCUM idolizes, and the posters pushing the “stupid white boy” narrative do seem wildly ignorant.

But it's okay to make generalizations about people from the northern part of the country, talk about "bubbles" etc? Don't be hypocrites.

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Anonymous wrote:They have always done this. I went to a private school in the south and 85% of the out of state kids were from NY, NJ, MA.

They want to go somewhere warm and then realize quality of life is way better in the blue states up north.

Quality of life? Until they have to send their kids to school...

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Anonymous wrote:They have always done this. I went to a private school in the south and 85% of the out of state kids were from NY, NJ, MA.

They want to go somewhere warm and then realize quality of life is way better in the blue states up north.

Quality of life? Until they have to send their kids to school...

You are ignorant. There are terrific school districts in the SE just like in the NE. Think about it. Do you think DC has excellent public schools? What about Arlington?

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It's not just "Northern Kids"; people from all over the country are going to these schools for various reasons. Not sure why this would bother people on here or why anyone would care, unless your kid is planning on applying.

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Weather and in state tuition.

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Northern kids have always flocked to southern universities. This is nothing new.

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Anonymous wrote:It's not just "Northern Kids"; people from all over the country are going to these schools for various reasons. Not sure why this would bother people on here or why anyone would care, unless your kid is planning on applying.

DCUM gets mad when people actually like the South.

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DCUM lives in some kind of alternate universe where they things that they think really matter to the overwhelming majority of college students and their parents actually don’t.

Very few families are writing off colleges because of vaccine mandates. Very few families are writing off colleges in red states because of abortion laws. Etc.

High school students are choosing southern colleges for the weather, the atmosphere, the sports, the fun, and yes because there are many good ones with higher acceptance rates. Parents are drawn to these schools because often the cost is lower.

End of story.

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Anonymous wrote:It's not just "Northern Kids"; people from all over the country are going to these schools for various reasons. Not sure why this would bother people on here or why anyone would care, unless your kid is planning on applying.

DCUM gets mad when people actually like the South.

I have noticed this.