Sidwell to increase tuition a WHOPPING 6.7%

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How much does a grade 5-8 teacher get paid? How many kids in the average class? How much goes to cover admin/facilities/subsidies for fin aid at a place like this?

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Anonymous wrote:51k doesn’t faze me…I’m paying 12k and financial aid helps with the rest. They can go up to $60k for all I care.

Gross. I’m sure this warms the heart of all the parents contributing to the annual funds so that you can benefit from FA.

It warms most of our hearts. That is the point of FA. Seriously, what planet do you live on perennially aggrieved moms? You keep getting told like you’re toddlers, but unlike toddlers you just won’t learn

You found that post heart-warming? We are not wealthy but donate for FA so others can benefit from the school, which we love. PP might want to consider that more $ to tuition means less available for families like ours to donate for her family’s FA.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't know how many Sidwell parents on this forum have or know senior students. Class of 2022 is one of the strongest but ED/EA results seem very poor this year. Most of us send our kids to SFS for quality education. Sooner or later your kids will be a senior. Parents should express our real concern and interests while paying increasing tuitions.

Isn't SFS the only private school with 10 national merit semifinalists or something like that?

But most NMSFs didn't get in EA/ED. LOL. Sidwell CCO is really subpar.

+1 (class of ‘22 parent here)

+2. Were apparently advising some seniors in mid-Jan to apply to more "safety" schools - mind you after the Jan. 1 deadline for many schools, and right up against the later deadlines of Jan. 15 for some schools.

+3 Try to schedule an appointment to check the Naviance Data and finalized the RD list prior to the winter break after knowing the ED result, but we were told her schedule was fully booked. COO was closed except for checking the emails.

What’s their excuse for not providing access to Naviance?

Question - do independent college counselors outside of schools have access to Naviance ?

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Anonymous wrote:Don't know how many Sidwell parents on this forum have or know senior students. Class of 2022 is one of the strongest but ED/EA results seem very poor this year. Most of us send our kids to SFS for quality education. Sooner or later your kids will be a senior. Parents should express our real concern and interests while paying increasing tuitions.

Isn't SFS the only private school with 10 national merit semifinalists or something like that?

But most NMSFs didn't get in EA/ED. LOL. Sidwell CCO is really subpar.

+1 (class of ‘22 parent here)

+2. Were apparently advising some seniors in mid-Jan to apply to more "safety" schools - mind you after the Jan. 1 deadline for many schools, and right up against the later deadlines of Jan. 15 for some schools.

+3 Try to schedule an appointment to check the Naviance Data and finalized the RD list prior to the winter break after knowing the ED result, but we were told her schedule was fully booked. COO was closed except for checking the emails.

What’s their excuse for not providing access to Naviance?

Question - do independent college counselors outside of schools have access to Naviance ?

No. Naviance is a school specific data base.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't know how many Sidwell parents on this forum have or know senior students. Class of 2022 is one of the strongest but ED/EA results seem very poor this year. Most of us send our kids to SFS for quality education. Sooner or later your kids will be a senior. Parents should express our real concern and interests while paying increasing tuitions.

Isn't SFS the only private school with 10 national merit semifinalists or something like that?

But most NMSFs didn't get in EA/ED. LOL. Sidwell CCO is really subpar.

+1 (class of ‘22 parent here)

+2. Were apparently advising some seniors in mid-Jan to apply to more "safety" schools - mind you after the Jan. 1 deadline for many schools, and right up against the later deadlines of Jan. 15 for some schools.

+3 Try to schedule an appointment to check the Naviance Data and finalized the RD list prior to the winter break after knowing the ED result, but we were told her schedule was fully booked. COO was closed except for checking the emails.

What’s their excuse for not providing access to Naviance?

Question - do independent college counselors outside of schools have access to Naviance ?

No. Naviance is a school specific data base.

Thanks. Do the Sidwell counselors use Naviance themselves ?

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Anonymous wrote:More years of data are not necessarily helpful at this point. The landscape has shifted significantly in four years.

Whether it is helpful or not, it is a tool that they use. The question was why don't they make that tool available outside of the tight control of the CCO. Someone said it was because past students are too easily identifiable. And then someone responded that because Sidwell's scattergrams aggregate 4 years of data, specific alumni students really can't be identified.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't know how many Sidwell parents on this forum have or know senior students. Class of 2022 is one of the strongest but ED/EA results seem very poor this year. Most of us send our kids to SFS for quality education. Sooner or later your kids will be a senior. Parents should express our real concern and interests while paying increasing tuitions.

Isn't SFS the only private school with 10 national merit semifinalists or something like that?

But most NMSFs didn't get in EA/ED. LOL. Sidwell CCO is really subpar.

+1 (class of ‘22 parent here)

+2. Were apparently advising some seniors in mid-Jan to apply to more "safety" schools - mind you after the Jan. 1 deadline for many schools, and right up against the later deadlines of Jan. 15 for some schools.

+3 Try to schedule an appointment to check the Naviance Data and finalized the RD list prior to the winter break after knowing the ED result, but we were told her schedule was fully booked. COO was closed except for checking the emails.

What’s their excuse for not providing access to Naviance?

Question - do independent college counselors outside of schools have access to Naviance ?

No. Naviance is a school specific data base.

Thanks. Do the Sidwell counselors use Naviance themselves ?

They do. Students and their parents can look at Naviance scattergrams in a meeting with the counselor upon request. IME, the counselors are reluctant to have families look at scattergrams when they think it is too early in the process of a student creating their list, and the counselor will push back against that request. And when they do eventually let you look at them, they will only let you look at a very small number of colleges' scattergrams when those colleges are on your list. So among other things, the counselors won't let students look at and use scattergrams as a tool to create their list in the first place.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't know how many Sidwell parents on this forum have or know senior students. Class of 2022 is one of the strongest but ED/EA results seem very poor this year. Most of us send our kids to SFS for quality education. Sooner or later your kids will be a senior. Parents should express our real concern and interests while paying increasing tuitions.

Isn't SFS the only private school with 10 national merit semifinalists or something like that?

But most NMSFs didn't get in EA/ED. LOL. Sidwell CCO is really subpar.

+1 (class of ‘22 parent here)

+2. Were apparently advising some seniors in mid-Jan to apply to more "safety" schools - mind you after the Jan. 1 deadline for many schools, and right up against the later deadlines of Jan. 15 for some schools.

+3 Try to schedule an appointment to check the Naviance Data and finalized the RD list prior to the winter break after knowing the ED result, but we were told her schedule was fully booked. COO was closed except for checking the emails.

Why not?

What’s their excuse for not providing access to Naviance?

Question - do independent college counselors outside of schools have access to Naviance ?

No. Naviance is a school specific data base.

Thanks. Do the Sidwell counselors use Naviance themselves ?

They do. Students and their parents can look at Naviance scattergrams in a meeting with the counselor upon request. IME, the counselors are reluctant to have families look at scattergrams when they think it is too early in the process of a student creating their list, and the counselor will push back against that request. And when they do eventually let you look at them, they will only let you look at a very small number of colleges' scattergrams when those colleges are on your list. So among other things, the counselors won't let students look at and use scattergrams as a tool to create their list in the first place.

why not? Seems helpful as you choose some on the list. What help is it after the fact?? Maybe this is why some are unhappy with Sidwell’ cco

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Anonymous wrote:Don't know how many Sidwell parents on this forum have or know senior students. Class of 2022 is one of the strongest but ED/EA results seem very poor this year. Most of us send our kids to SFS for quality education. Sooner or later your kids will be a senior. Parents should express our real concern and interests while paying increasing tuitions.

I don't see where the current senior class is having a poor year with colleges. Something like 25-30% got into their ED's. A bunch of kids have had positive results on EA's and ED2's are coming out over the next few weeks. It is pretty much on par with peer schools and previous years results.

-parent of a senior

But not for ordinary students especially EA/ED top 20/LAC

Maybe ordinary students don’t get in to those colleges these days, from any school? Things change. Being a regular student at Sidwell isn’t a ticket to a top 20 school anymore. Maybe that’s a reality check and a good thing.

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They do. Students and their parents can look at Naviance scattergrams in a meeting with the counselor upon request. IME, the counselors are reluctant to have families look at scattergrams when they think it is too early in the process of a student creating their list, and the counselor will push back against that request. And when they do eventually let you look at them, they will only let you look at a very small number of colleges' scattergrams when those colleges are on your list. So among other things, the counselors won't let students look at and use scattergrams as a tool to create their list in the first place.

This is false. The parent-student meeting can be filled with looking at as many scattergrams as they want. And, the student can go back and meet and look at any other scattergrams they want at any point during the process.

Just my opinion, but so much has changed with COVID, that the scattergrams and any other metrics other than the 2021 CDS is relatively useless.

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Maybe ordinary students don’t get in to those colleges these days, from any school? Things change. Being a regular student at Sidwell isn’t a ticket to a top 20 school anymore. Maybe that’s a reality check and a good thing.

It never was. Even 50 years ago.

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Anonymous wrote:51k doesn’t faze me…I’m paying 12k and financial aid helps with the rest. They can go up to $60k for all I care.

Gross. I’m sure this warms the heart of all the parents contributing to the annual funds so that you can benefit from FA.

It warms most of our hearts. That is the point of FA. Seriously, what planet do you live on perennially aggrieved moms? You keep getting told like you’re toddlers, but unlike toddlers you just won’t learn

You found that post heart-warming? We are not wealthy but donate for FA so others can benefit from the school, which we love. PP might want to consider that more $ to tuition means less available for families like ours to donate for her family’s FA.

You are very wealthy. Be real.

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They do. Students and their parents can look at Naviance scattergrams in a meeting with the counselor upon request. IME, the counselors are reluctant to have families look at scattergrams when they think it is too early in the process of a student creating their list, and the counselor will push back against that request. And when they do eventually let you look at them, they will only let you look at a very small number of colleges' scattergrams when those colleges are on your list. So among other things, the counselors won't let students look at and use scattergrams as a tool to create their list in the first place.

This is false. The parent-student meeting can be filled with looking at as many scattergrams as they want. And, the student can go back and meet and look at any other scattergrams they want at any point during the process.

Just my opinion, but so much has changed with COVID, that the scattergrams and any other metrics other than the 2021 CDS is relatively useless.

It’s not false, because it was our experience this year with DC’s counselor. Perhaps the counselors are inconsistent, which is a point that seems to have come up as an issue over and over again in these discussions.

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They do. Students and their parents can look at Naviance scattergrams in a meeting with the counselor upon request. IME, the counselors are reluctant to have families look at scattergrams when they think it is too early in the process of a student creating their list, and the counselor will push back against that request. And when they do eventually let you look at them, they will only let you look at a very small number of colleges' scattergrams when those colleges are on your list. So among other things, the counselors won't let students look at and use scattergrams as a tool to create their list in the first place.

This is false. The parent-student meeting can be filled with looking at as many scattergrams as they want. And, the student can go back and meet and look at any other scattergrams they want at any point during the process.

Just my opinion, but so much has changed with COVID, that the scattergrams and any other metrics other than the 2021 CDS is relatively useless.

It’s not false, because it was our experience this year with DC’s counselor. Perhaps the counselors are inconsistent, which is a point that seems to have come up as an issue over and over again in these discussions.

+1

[Anonymous]

SFS could increase transparency by using Naviance. Show the data: # of applications, # of admissions, # who attend.