Not sure if this should be in the policy forum instead... Anyone here voting for Youngkin because of

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Anonymous wrote:Youngkin seems like a stand up candidate. Not a career politician, values family, schools and proposed tax cuts in a way that benefit poorer individuals more than an income tax cut which benefits the wealthy more. Reducing the food tax where a disproportionate amount of poorer individuals income goes. It’s a refreshing approach.

Vmpi is a wreck. If you value mathematics and/or have mathematically inclined children you should really be aware of the underpinnings of this movement and the ultimate policy goal and what the state is willing to sacrifice to meet this goal. I am amazed so many people are so interested in AAP or advanced schools/good colleges etc but would support this initiative. It’s shooting our students in the foot. Look up what the VA Tech professor had to say. Colleges are not going to find these pathways competitive for programs looking for advanced students. Education should work to meet the needs of all students, the failure to help bridge that gap should not be reached by lowering our educational options/pursuits and standards. It’s insane. Spend less of the money to lower math through VMPI and get more specialist to work with struggling students in a smaller setting.

I think we all know Terry is sleazy. Some will vote for him because he is Dem. VA is better than this. Served up a re-do candidate who is associated with the Clinton era and expects to win because he reiterates the tired campaign line of trying to say a candidate is Trump. Facts Terry, provide us some facts. We have brains and can see that we deserve better than some entitled campaign that expects us to believe some line and think that line is enough for us to give you are vote. What do you Terry bring to the table? How is your tax plan better for the average VA citizen. We are VA we deserve more than being told what to do by lifelong politicians. Elected officials work for the people. That is often forgotten with the entitled political lifers.

I would be excited for some fresh candidates to represent us.

As Terry McAuliffe has previously said, Biden is an unpopular President in Virginia. Biden ran his campaign mostly hiding in a basement, claiming he was the moderate candidate, and he was not Trump. Is McAuliffe's campaign that much different than Biden's ? All we hear is that Younkin is tangentially related to Trump, but absolutely no real policy positions or discussions. Looks like a many Ds are eager to be fooled twice.

McAuliffe's campaign basically has three elements:

(1) a detailed advocacy agenda designed to appeal to the far left, but not otherwise heavily publicized for fear of alienating more moderate voters;

(2) equating Youngkin with Trump, which is repeated ad nauseum to scare the majority of Virginians who voted for Biden in 2020; and

(3) featuring high-profile Democrats like Barack Obama and Stacey Abrams to campaign for McAuliffe in order to try and compensate for the fact that McAuliffe himself is not at all likable.

He'll probably win given how blue Virginia has become, but there are a lot of folks who've come away completely unimpressed by the 2021 incarnation of Terry Mac.

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Anonymous wrote:Please let there be a lot of trolls in this thread. Unreal! Please Dems do not sit this one out.

Thank you,
DC resident

A DC resident posting on a thread about POS and funding etc in VA public schools. FCPS has a captive market since FX does not have the massive number of seats in privates and charters like DC and MD. DC has 47% of non private in charters. DC is a complicated rat maze. POS is Program of Studies and FCPS is so large it has longitudinal data on cohort groups. It knows what worked and has the data on diminishing returns from it's preK and full day K.

FCPS is mostly done by boundaries and has one of the largest bus fleets in the USA. Language arts - literacy and math. Foundations which should be the right for all students. Not just those whose parents know how-when-where supplementing is necessary. People of all income levels are tired of the BS. NAACP is Republican? No but it finally woke up. https://www.fairfaxnaacp.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/FCPS-Literacy-Letter-April-2021.pdf

Here's a big difference from DC to FX. FX D requires us to pay to vote for the D that ends up on the ballot. Nobody in DC ever has to pay to vote. On 9/9/21 two AA school board members took the opposition role for the progressive position on 9/11 which was also VDOE under Qarni. One of the 2 has a DC in the Army [West Point grad-engineer type] and the other was in National Guard. Qarni on math and 9/11 ? His math is a mismatch to the NAACP on language arts.

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Anonymous wrote:I like some of the republican values but dislike many. I like some of the democratic values but dislike many. It will be a hard decision for me. I hate all the stupid FCPS social surveys, health ed topics, let kids choose their own gender pronouns and lowering the bar for underachievers to become achievers. I hate that everything in school is looked at from a racist lens. I hate that FCPS is not putting pressure on parents to do their part as parents rather than depend on the school to raise kids. So yes liberal FCPS getting a F from me. Will just that make me vote for Youngkin? Probably not because I am in a position to teach my kids what I want them to learn and opt out from the ones I think is stupid. Also I don't know of a republican school district that's better than FCPS.

OP again. You pretty much summarized my feelings. After reading this thread I'm leaning towards voting D... The abortion issue and the risk of gerrymandering are big risks to take. But yeah, I am so pissed at FCPS and at all this wokeness that has suddenly permeated school policies.

That said, I cannot wait for our next SB election. I do hope we get a more balanced State house of Delegates...

Gerrymandering is a non-issue. We passed a constitutional amendment a couple of years ago sending redistricting to a non-partisan commission. Where it is now. R Gov or D irrelevant on gerrymandering.

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Anonymous wrote:Except left wing advocacy groups aren't in charge of our schools. Just because younkin, trump and others say it doesn't mean it's true. Try to get actual news not propoganda.

no, LWAG groups, specifically, are not in charge of our schools. But their influence runs far deeper than it should with the D party and that is reason enough to vote against them.

Youngkin has made clear that he wants right wing groups running education, he wants private schools, not public, he wants to ban materials and limit books available to kids. I am much more afraid of his influence in our schools than moderate McAuliffe (who was already Governor and the state was run very well).

If the McAuliffe of 2013 were running again, maybe, but (1) McAuliffe's 2021 policy platform is far more left-wing than it was 8 years ago and (2) Youngkin is far more pragmatic and less of an ideologue than Ken Cuccinelli was.

I don't doubt that McAuliffe is personally moderate - he certainly doesn't mind surrounding himself with, and enjoying, extreme wealth and privilege living in the toniest part of McLean - but his election depends on pandering to the far left and those are the types of people he'll install in all the key departments of state government if elected. We can't afford that nonsense.

McAuliffe has a comprehensive plan and, as an experienced, proven governor, he can hit the ground running.

I was impressed with how much detail he has put into helping Virginians across the state (farmers, rural areas, etc):
https://terrymcauliffe.com/issues/

Given his success during his previous term it’s a no brainer.

+1000000

Youngkin's plan privatize schools. Cost taxpayers millions, pocket millions and well VA becomes Alabama

After the last year, I’m not sure I see the problem. Public schools are monopolies beholden to unions was a disaster. And I learned quickly that having only crappy educational options suck. What’s wrong with making FCPS innovate and compete? Maybe then they will listen to parents instead of unions. And if they don’t, kids whose parents aren’t millionaires should have option.

2 years ago, I never would have been pro-voucher. But last year, it didn’t escape my notice that privates and religious schools were in person safely. Because they had to figure it out. FCPS had no incentive to do the same. And then I realized— hey, FCPS has zero incentive to work for kids and parents. By Ms and HS, we’re trapped.

It could also be cost efficient. My kids play instruments at a high level amd would never play a sport. Why do they need to go to a comprehensive Hs with all the locker rooms and fields. That’s a lot value in land. Why can’t they opt into an arts and humanities HS with a good theater and music practice rooms, off the charts APs in Humanities and forgo sports and AP Physics CE and multi/linear? Making fields available to all kids when a relatively small subset use them for sports is silly.

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Anonymous wrote:Please let there be a lot of trolls in this thread. Unreal! Please Dems do not sit this one out.

Thank you,
DC resident

Yeah. We do. Amd honestly, I’m not sure why DC put up with Bowser. The schools are crap and there are tent cities everywhere.

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Anonymous wrote:What has happened in our public schools is completely unacceptable. The Democrats need to get that message, instead of blaming parents for standing up for their kids. Voting for Youngkin to hopefully course correct.

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Well said and I feel the same way.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s incredible sad how many parents are misinformed. They believe the lies being fed by the right wing. They’re loud voices that do not represent the reality that we live in. Youngkin is wrong. The Openfcps group is extreme and not representative. This group loves to complain and will spend countless hours on their agenda while complaining that their children are not doing well in school. Maybe those parents should do well by their children by helping them.

I know the reality I’ve loved in since 3/2020. And more importantly, I know my kids’ reality. You’re asking me to choose between my party and my kids. Spoiler alert— I will always s choose my kids. Most moms will. It’s why McAuliffe loses the soccer moms in NOVA.

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Anonymous wrote:Please let there be a lot of trolls in this thread. Unreal! Please Dems do not sit this one out.

Thank you,
DC resident

You really need to focus on the mess in your own city. Try cleaning that up first before butting into a thread that doesn't concern you.

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Anonymous wrote:Please let there be a lot of trolls in this thread. Unreal! Please Dems do not sit this one out.

Thank you,
DC resident

You really need to focus on the mess in your own city. Try cleaning that up first before butting into a thread that doesn't concern you.

+1. Raise your hand if you want 17% pass rates, and tent cities with people crapping on sidewalks? Yeah, me neither.

But, keeping voting. Dem, since it’s working so well /s

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Anonymous wrote:So now if you are a parent organizing in your community to hold your local school board accountable you are a right wing puppet getting lots of funding.

That seems likely. Lol.

No, there are literally right-wing groups openly doing this. One infiltrated the TJ PTA and imploded it.

DP. What on earth are you babbling about? Links? The Coalition for TJ isn't "right-wing." They are fighting to keep TJ's admission standards selective. I don't even have kids at TJ, but can completely understand why the admissions standards shouldn't be watered down in the name of "diversity."

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Anonymous wrote:So now if you are a parent organizing in your community to hold your local school board accountable you are a right wing puppet getting lots of funding.

That seems likely. Lol.

Please go the Twitter feed of Replace FCPS School Board (Open FCPS) and tell me that it hasn't been completely taken over by right wing folks.

Apparently, "right wing = anyone I disagree with." Unreal.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s incredible sad how many parents are misinformed. They believe the lies being fed by the right wing. They’re loud voices that do not represent the reality that we live in. Youngkin is wrong. The Openfcps group is extreme and not representative. This group loves to complain and will spend countless hours on their agenda while complaining that their children are not doing well in school. Maybe those parents should do well by their children by helping them.

Many have. They've done well by their children by removing them from FCPS.

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Anonymous wrote:Except left wing advocacy groups aren't in charge of our schools. Just because younkin, trump and others say it doesn't mean it's true. Try to get actual news not propoganda.

no, LWAG groups, specifically, are not in charge of our schools. But their influence runs far deeper than it should with the D party and that is reason enough to vote against them.

Youngkin has made clear that he wants right wing groups running education, he wants private schools, not public, he wants to ban materials and limit books available to kids. I am much more afraid of his influence in our schools than moderate McAuliffe (who was already Governor and the state was run very well).

If the McAuliffe of 2013 were running again, maybe, but (1) McAuliffe's 2021 policy platform is far more left-wing than it was 8 years ago and (2) Youngkin is far more pragmatic and less of an ideologue than Ken Cuccinelli was.

I don't doubt that McAuliffe is personally moderate - he certainly doesn't mind surrounding himself with, and enjoying, extreme wealth and privilege living in the toniest part of McLean - but his election depends on pandering to the far left and those are the types of people he'll install in all the key departments of state government if elected. We can't afford that nonsense.

McAuliffe has a comprehensive plan and, as an experienced, proven governor, he can hit the ground running.

I was impressed with how much detail he has put into helping Virginians across the state (farmers, rural areas, etc):
https://terrymcauliffe.com/issues/

Given his success during his previous term it’s a no brainer.

+1000000

Youngkin's plan privatize schools. Cost taxpayers millions, pocket millions and well VA becomes Alabama

After the last year, I’m not sure I see the problem. Public schools are monopolies beholden to unions was a disaster. And I learned quickly that having only crappy educational options suck. What’s wrong with making FCPS innovate and compete? Maybe then they will listen to parents instead of unions. And if they don’t, kids whose parents aren’t millionaires should have option.

2 years ago, I never would have been pro-voucher. But last year, it didn’t escape my notice that privates and religious schools were in person safely. Because they had to figure it out. FCPS had no incentive to do the same. And then I realized— hey, FCPS has zero incentive to work for kids and parents. By Ms and HS, we’re trapped.

It could also be cost efficient. My kids play instruments at a high level amd would never play a sport. Why do they need to go to a comprehensive Hs with all the locker rooms and fields. That’s a lot value in land. Why can’t they opt into an arts and humanities HS with a good theater and music practice rooms, off the charts APs in Humanities and forgo sports and AP Physics CE and multi/linear? Making fields available to all kids when a relatively small subset use them for sports is silly.

+100
Exactly this!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What has happened in our public schools is completely unacceptable. The Democrats need to get that message, instead of blaming parents for standing up for their kids. Voting for Youngkin to hopefully course correct.

+100
Well said and I feel the same way.

+1

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OP I’m going to say you’re a troll. There is no way in gods green earth I would elect a republican governor after what our country just went through with the last election. You have lost your marbles if you’re not a troll. Hold the school board’s feet to the fire but don’t vote for the anti-democracy party.