Not sure if this should be in the policy forum instead... Anyone here voting for Youngkin because of

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Anonymous wrote:If you choose to vote for Youngkin because of FCPS then you are letting FOX win as you are buying their soundbites.

Don't cut off your nose to spite your face.

Vote out the schoolboard on the next election, they are our problem, but voting for Youngkin is not going to help the situation.

Is there just one liberal troll here who keeps repeating the same talking points? Go away. People who are no doubt far more educated than you prefer Youngkin. I guess you'll have to see your way clear to realizing this.

Pretty sure this is the same poster who said “Youngkin means death to democracy.” He’s been nonstop with the unhinged posts.

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I doubt Youngkin will pull off a win, but if he does, we're going to have a replay of Nov. 2016. Tantrums galore.

That thought alone is worth a vote for Youngkin

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Anonymous wrote:So you all care about your kid's chances of getting into TJ more than you care about other people's human rights. Got it.

Do these other people care about the kid's chance to get into TJ?

None of my kids ever went to TJ and I still think the admissions criteria should not be a lottery. There's a reason it's one of the best schools in the country.
DP

Same. I went to a very highly ranked high school like TJ and strongly believe in them. We need doctors, scientists and innovative people in society. My former classmates are doing great things. Why should people lose the option to attend gifted schools? (And I also don’t think my kids would make it into TJ)

The revised admissions criteria at TJ is not a lottery. A lottery was considered and rejected.

Instead, FCPS now sets aside a certain number of seats for students at every middle school in FCPS who meet certain requirements, with other seats set aside for students at other participating jurisdictions, and the remaining candidates drawn from a residual pool. However, students no longer have to take a rigorous STEM-focused admissions test, the new process requires far more time by FCPS employees to perform a "holistic" review of all the eligible students, and students get a boost based on "experience factors" such as being economically disadvantaged or attending a middle school that historically has sent fewer kids to TJ.

One of the results of these changes is that FCPS will now end up spending even more time and money focusing on who attends a single high school - TJ - and less time addressing the needs of students at all the other high schools in the county, many of which have pressing and unmet needs. For a school system that claims to prioritize equity, FCPS is now fetishizing the importance of TJ more than ever before.

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Is there anything Democrats can't f-up? The ineptitude is staggering.

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Anonymous wrote:There is more than one poster who can see obvious threat Republicans pose yo our democracy. If you can’t see it, you are not paying attention to the current Republican party.

Sure, Jan. I mean - sure, gaslighter.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes - but it’s not a dilemma for me any longer. Definitely voting Youngkin to send the local Democrats a message that they had better start cleaning up their giant mess. And I have always voted Democratic in state/local elections, except when Creigh Deeds ran for Governor (and, yes, I know McDonnell got into hot water but he was still better than Deeds would have been).

This is not the message you are sending by voting for a rich guy without a plan.

But, if you want to send the message that you are afraid of teaching history with any accuracy and want more charter schools, go for it.

DP. "A rich guy without a plan"? You mean McAuliffe? Get a grip. Youngkin has a plan. As for teaching history with "any accuracy" - please do detail what is not being taught in history classes to your liking. Would you prefer your alternative history? No more facts?

Yes, his plan is take away abortion righrs, make voting more difficult, oh and outlaw "CRT". LOL

Reading this thread, makes me feel like i fell asleep and woke up in Texas....

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Anonymous wrote:We’ve reached the point that my kid’s AP Psychology exam was cancelled— because it falls on an O Day. If she wants to sit for it, she has to do so during makeup days, which are a week before she graduates mood luck with that.

Once a public school system has decided not to allow any kids in the system to sit for a national exam because some kids from one religion might have to use makeup days as accommodations, it’s gotten out of hand.

I also have a TJ alum and am furious at the new admissions standards— or lack thereof.

Not voting for more of the same. I voted for Youngkin today. And you can do the “you were never a Dem to being with” thing. But, this is my first R vote in a general election (I’ve taken the R ballot a couple of times in primaries, for example to vote against Trump).

I have written members, attended townhall, watched SB meeting, signed petitions and carried signs. And it has made no difference. We can’t keep going like this.

And no. I’m not a moron. I’m pretty clear eyed about who Youngkin is. But, I also know that McAuliffe is in bed with teachers unions, and they are the ones who kept school closed last year.

Sure. We believe you. *eye roll*

You know, it’s McAuliffe, the SB, Brabrand, et al.’s eye rolling at parents with very legitimate concerns about things like TJ admissions, VMPI, mask and xpvaxx policies, closed schools, cancelling AP exams for O Days, lack of instruction on O Days, Zoom in a Room last year, athletics returning last year but fine arts still being restricted, the awfulness of the situation for SN kids, lack of summer school planning, school renaming when kids weren’t even allowed in the buildings they renamed, etc., etc. that got McAuliffe into the position of possibly losing what should be an very easy win.

Parents have legitimate concerns. Real concerns, not CRT and a porno book in the Hs library astroturfed concerns. Thee McAuliffe crew rolls their eyes, calls parents who raise issues about TJ or VMPI or loss of instructional time on O days or similar issues morons and says people who question the wisdom of moving AP exams because a religious minority would have to use the makeup days must be Trumpkins. Not only are Dems not listening to parents concerns— they are dismissing or outright mocking them.

Why would I vote for someone whose surrogates think I’m a moron because I’m concerned about teacher collective bargaining or VMPI or other statewide issues.

Keep dismissing parents concerns, and parents will keep voting for not McAuliffe.

Well said. I had actually forgotten about FCPS allowing sports - even indoor, unmasked *wrestling* - but not allowing in-person academic and arts clubs to meet. Such hypocritical fools.

How would Youngkin fix that?

Yes, we know the governor doesn't have sway with local school boards. You don't have to keep repeating your "gotcha" questions. A vote for Youngkin is a way to express disgust with the current all Democratic SB. It's a message. A message that you clearly don't comprehend.

That’s not what anyone is going to “hear”.

In reality:
It’s a message that you accept GOP lies about the election, CRT, and all of the other BS Youngkin is pushing.

It’s a message that you accept whatever nutso legislation the GOP may try to push in the future.


If you have an issue with the SB, take action to change it. Not this irrational, ineffective “message” that won’t do anything.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you choose to vote for Youngkin because of FCPS then you are letting FOX win as you are buying their soundbites.

Don't cut off your nose to spite your face.

Vote out the schoolboard on the next election, they are our problem, but voting for Youngkin is not going to help the situation.

Is there just one liberal troll here who keeps repeating the same talking points? Go away. People who are no doubt far more educated than you prefer Youngkin. I guess you'll have to see your way clear to realizing this.

Pretty sure this is the same poster who said “Youngkin means death to democracy.” He’s been nonstop with the unhinged posts.

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I doubt Youngkin will pull off a win, but if he does, we're going to have a replay of Nov. 2016. Tantrums galore.

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That thought alone is worth a vote for Youngkin

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Anonymous wrote:So you all care about your kid's chances of getting into TJ more than you care about other people's human rights. Got it.

Do these other people care about the kid's chance to get into TJ?

None of my kids ever went to TJ and I still think the admissions criteria should not be a lottery. There's a reason it's one of the best schools in the country.
DP

Same. I went to a very highly ranked high school like TJ and strongly believe in them. We need doctors, scientists and innovative people in society. My former classmates are doing great things. Why should people lose the option to attend gifted schools? (And I also don’t think my kids would make it into TJ)

The revised admissions criteria at TJ is not a lottery. A lottery was considered and rejected.

Instead, FCPS now sets aside a certain number of seats for students at every middle school in FCPS who meet certain requirements, with other seats set aside for students at other participating jurisdictions, and the remaining candidates drawn from a residual pool. However, students no longer have to take a rigorous STEM-focused admissions test, the new process requires far more time by FCPS employees to perform a "holistic" review of all the eligible students, and students get a boost based on "experience factors" such as being economically disadvantaged or attending a middle school that historically has sent fewer kids to TJ.

One of the results of these changes is that FCPS will now end up spending even more time and money focusing on who attends a single high school - TJ - and less time addressing the needs of students at all the other high schools in the county, many of which have pressing and unmet needs. For a school system that claims to prioritize equity, FCPS is now fetishizing the importance of TJ more than ever before.

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Is there anything Democrats can't f-up? The ineptitude is staggering.

With this School Board, it's often difficult to tell which is worse - the intended consequences of their decisions or the unintended consequences.

We all know just how bad they have been. But we also need someone in Richmond in a position to rein them in, or at least call them out.

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Anonymous wrote:We’ve reached the point that my kid’s AP Psychology exam was cancelled— because it falls on an O Day. If she wants to sit for it, she has to do so during makeup days, which are a week before she graduates mood luck with that.

Once a public school system has decided not to allow any kids in the system to sit for a national exam because some kids from one religion might have to use makeup days as accommodations, it’s gotten out of hand.

I also have a TJ alum and am furious at the new admissions standards— or lack thereof.

Not voting for more of the same. I voted for Youngkin today. And you can do the “you were never a Dem to being with” thing. But, this is my first R vote in a general election (I’ve taken the R ballot a couple of times in primaries, for example to vote against Trump).

I have written members, attended townhall, watched SB meeting, signed petitions and carried signs. And it has made no difference. We can’t keep going like this.

And no. I’m not a moron. I’m pretty clear eyed about who Youngkin is. But, I also know that McAuliffe is in bed with teachers unions, and they are the ones who kept school closed last year.

Sure. We believe you. *eye roll*

DP here.

Granted this is an anonymous board, but telling someone whose beef is that their concerns have fallen on deaf ears that they aren't credible is not going to help the Democrats in this or future elections. The consistent message from local Democrats in recent years has been that they only deign to listen when people say what they already want to hear.

There are only so many conspiracy theories one can tolerate before they all become a big blur.

If you want people to listen to you maybe rejoin us in reality first.

Renaming schools and redoing TJ admissions at the height of the pandemic
Making it so TJ Admissions are not merit based
Giving up the Carson site for the Western Co HS and using Hutchinson
VMPI
14 day quarantines, while all counties around us are making 7 days plus a negative PCR a work
Zoom in a Room and class monitors last year
2 DOJ lawsuits against FCPS on FAPE violations
Equity everything
Stopping all education for 11 days this year so that we can celebrate religious holidays. In a public school
Cancelling AP Psych and EnvironScience Exams because they fall on O Days and telling kids if they want to take them, they have to use the makeup block. U
The W. Potomac expansion
5 Eastern Co IB sites that struggle to graduate 40 full diploma candidates a year between them
And the entire foster luck of last year, starting with BB crashing, and going through not opening school in August not because it was unsafe,but because Brabrand gave all the teachers ADAs

Show me the conspiracy theory.

Show me which of these concerns are not grounded in reality.

Because every time you tell me these concerns are not valid, I become less inclined to vote D.

TRUTH.

This! I'm a dem and won't vote for Youngkin cause yeah anyone still slurping Trump is a hard NO for me, but I will not vote for Dems for school board anymore. FCPS has shown time it doesn't really care about education.

Same

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Anonymous wrote:If you choose to vote for Youngkin because of FCPS then you are letting FOX win as you are buying their soundbites.

Don't cut off your nose to spite your face.

Vote out the schoolboard on the next election, they are our problem, but voting for Youngkin is not going to help the situation.

Is there just one liberal troll here who keeps repeating the same talking points? Go away. People who are no doubt far more educated than you prefer Youngkin. I guess you'll have to see your way clear to realizing this.

Pretty sure this is the same poster who said “Youngkin means death to democracy.” He’s been nonstop with the unhinged posts.

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I doubt Youngkin will pull off a win, but if he does, we're going to have a replay of Nov. 2016. Tantrums galore.

That thought alone is worth a vote for Youngkin

And if Youngkin loses will the GOP violently storm the VA State Capitol?

How many people will die?

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Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of things that need addressing beyond a few school related matters. It's about the bigger picture which is where Youngkin will destroy VA and send it back to the deep south. Remember, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

Are you seriously trying to suggest McAuliffe has some compelling vision? I don't see it. You are fear-mongering about what Youngkin would do in office and it's not persuasive.

A Republican governor and a Democratic state legislature and/or attorney general are fine. Force them to work together. If not, better preserving the status quo than Democrats positioned to impose an agenda on the state that continues to move further left.

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Well said. And I find it funny that one of the PPs keeps suggesting Republicans are "astroturfing" VA. If anything, that's exactly what Democrats are doing with their constant fear-mongering and insistence that a vote for Youngkin equals the downfall of VA. Ridiculous. I wonder who, if anyone, takes these twits seriously.

Sounds like you don’t know what astroturfing means.

Read up, grasshopper.
https://apnews.com/article/business-health-coronavirus-pandemic-3157002e9d011e5283f55886b1c7078a

Sounds like you can't quite comprehend just how many parents have had it with their leftist school boards. Good for any organization helping them in their efforts. Sorry it triggers you, but that's life.

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Anonymous wrote:We’ve reached the point that my kid’s AP Psychology exam was cancelled— because it falls on an O Day. If she wants to sit for it, she has to do so during makeup days, which are a week before she graduates mood luck with that.

Once a public school system has decided not to allow any kids in the system to sit for a national exam because some kids from one religion might have to use makeup days as accommodations, it’s gotten out of hand.

I also have a TJ alum and am furious at the new admissions standards— or lack thereof.

Not voting for more of the same. I voted for Youngkin today. And you can do the “you were never a Dem to being with” thing. But, this is my first R vote in a general election (I’ve taken the R ballot a couple of times in primaries, for example to vote against Trump).

I have written members, attended townhall, watched SB meeting, signed petitions and carried signs. And it has made no difference. We can’t keep going like this.

And no. I’m not a moron. I’m pretty clear eyed about who Youngkin is. But, I also know that McAuliffe is in bed with teachers unions, and they are the ones who kept school closed last year.

Sure. We believe you. *eye roll*

DP here.

Granted this is an anonymous board, but telling someone whose beef is that their concerns have fallen on deaf ears that they aren't credible is not going to help the Democrats in this or future elections. The consistent message from local Democrats in recent years has been that they only deign to listen when people say what they already want to hear.

There are only so many conspiracy theories one can tolerate before they all become a big blur.

If you want people to listen to you maybe rejoin us in reality first.

Renaming schools and redoing TJ admissions at the height of the pandemic
Making it so TJ Admissions are not merit based
Giving up the Carson site for the Western Co HS and using Hutchinson
VMPI
14 day quarantines, while all counties around us are making 7 days plus a negative PCR a work
Zoom in a Room and class monitors last year
2 DOJ lawsuits against FCPS on FAPE violations
Equity everything
Stopping all education for 11 days this year so that we can celebrate religious holidays. In a public school
Cancelling AP Psych and EnvironScience Exams because they fall on O Days and telling kids if they want to take them, they have to use the makeup block. U
The W. Potomac expansion
5 Eastern Co IB sites that struggle to graduate 40 full diploma candidates a year between them
And the entire foster luck of last year, starting with BB crashing, and going through not opening school in August not because it was unsafe,but because Brabrand gave all the teachers ADAs

Show me the conspiracy theory.

Show me which of these concerns are not grounded in reality.

Because every time you tell me these concerns are not valid, I become less inclined to vote D.

TRUTH.

This! I'm a dem and won't vote for Youngkin cause yeah anyone still slurping Trump is a hard NO for me, but I will not vote for Dems for school board anymore. FCPS has shown time it doesn't really care about education.

Same

Elect McAuliffe and one-party rule gathers further steam over the next two years. Then you'll have fewer candidates to choose from 2023 who aren't carbon copies of disasters like Omeish, Cohen, Frisch, Keys Gamarra, Tholen, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Just saw another post by Melanie Meren boasting about her appearance at a Terry McAuliffe rally. This is what the School Board members in NoVa, who are supposed to be non-partisan by law, have been doing for many months, if not years.

When local School Board officials are this vocal about their unfettered allegiance to the political party that dominates local politics, it's not surprising that others - who don't want to antagonize the people vested with making decisions that affect their kids, their schools, and their communities - are often reluctant to publicly announce their support for Republican candidates. It's not like these folks haven't shown over the years that they keep score, reward their friends, and screw over their adversaries.

So that apparent lack of transparency sometimes gets recast as "astroturfing," when it's really more about self-preservation. It doesn't mean that there aren't plenty of Youngkin supporters locally in this election; it's just that there's a higher potential cost associated with publicly challenging those now in power than there is with proclaiming how much McAuliffe and all the local Democrats now in office deserve our total and complete support.

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Can you imagine the outrage from the left if a SB member actually showed up at a Republican's campaign event? But apparently it's all good when they campaign with Democrats. Because the FCPS SB is a PARTISAN DEMOCRATIC BODY. Sickening.

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Anonymous wrote:Just saw another post by Melanie Meren boasting about her appearance at a Terry McAuliffe rally. This is what the School Board members in NoVa, who are supposed to be non-partisan by law, have been doing for many months, if not years.

When local School Board officials are this vocal about their unfettered allegiance to the political party that dominates local politics, it's not surprising that others - who don't want to antagonize the people vested with making decisions that affect their kids, their schools, and their communities - are often reluctant to publicly announce their support for Republican candidates. It's not like these folks haven't shown over the years that they keep score, reward their friends, and screw over their adversaries.

So that apparent lack of transparency sometimes gets recast as "astroturfing," when it's really more about self-preservation. It doesn't mean that there aren't plenty of Youngkin supporters locally in this election; it's just that there's a higher potential cost associated with publicly challenging those now in power than there is with proclaiming how much McAuliffe and all the local Democrats now in office deserve our total and complete support.

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Can you imagine the outrage from the left if a SB member actually showed up at a Republican's campaign event? But apparently it's all good when they campaign with Democrats. Because the FCPS SB is a PARTISAN DEMOCRATIC BODY. Sickening.

Yes, D and R candidates for school boards both seek endorsements from local party organizations.

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Anonymous wrote:If you choose to vote for Youngkin because of FCPS then you are letting FOX win as you are buying their soundbites.

Don't cut off your nose to spite your face.

Vote out the schoolboard on the next election, they are our problem, but voting for Youngkin is not going to help the situation.

Is there just one liberal troll here who keeps repeating the same talking points? Go away. People who are no doubt far more educated than you prefer Youngkin. I guess you'll have to see your way clear to realizing this.

Pretty sure this is the same poster who said “Youngkin means death to democracy.” He’s been nonstop with the unhinged posts.

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I doubt Youngkin will pull off a win, but if he does, we're going to have a replay of Nov. 2016. Tantrums galore.

That thought alone is worth a vote for Youngkin

Agreed. But notice how Republicans are pragmatic about Youngkin's prospects? Democrats continue to arrogantly insist McAuliffe will win. And if he loses, they'll be the first to scream, gnash their teeth, and rend their garments. So predictable.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes - but it’s not a dilemma for me any longer. Definitely voting Youngkin to send the local Democrats a message that they had better start cleaning up their giant mess. And I have always voted Democratic in state/local elections, except when Creigh Deeds ran for Governor (and, yes, I know McDonnell got into hot water but he was still better than Deeds would have been).

This is not the message you are sending by voting for a rich guy without a plan.

But, if you want to send the message that you are afraid of teaching history with any accuracy and want more charter schools, go for it.

DP. "A rich guy without a plan"? You mean McAuliffe? Get a grip. Youngkin has a plan. As for teaching history with "any accuracy" - please do detail what is not being taught in history classes to your liking. Would you prefer your alternative history? No more facts?

Yes, his plan is take away abortion righrs, make voting more difficult, oh and outlaw "CRT". LOL

Reading this thread, makes me feel like i fell asleep and woke up in Texas....

Links for the first two? As for "CRT," go Glenn go. He's got my vote.