Hmmm have to disagree with that. Private schools aren’t usually the best in STEM fields. Again, can you not read? Most Americans can’t afford going to a private school or don’t even bother applying to one in the first place because they don’t have the means or the know-how. I’m surprised they didn’t teach you the reading or conversation skills at your prestigious private school. |
These schools including Duke are pretty much the same |
Brown is ranked #6. E cause of outstanding academics! |
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All schools on WSJ list are private...go figure ![]() |
Georgetown released it's 20 year ROI analysis of colleges in America, all of the schools you mentioned and a few others like Emory do very well and have better ROI than most public schools. Here's the link https://cew.georgetown.edu/cew-reports/collegeroi/ For example USC's 20 year ROI is $690,000 vs UCLAs $618,000. |
10% more isn't significantly higher. On the other hand, Stanford and Harvard both have a 20-year ROI of around 1 million. That's 50% more. Columbia, Penn, Yale, Duke, Princeton all have ROI of over $800,000, around 30% more than UCLA and Berkeley, the highest ranked public schools in the country. Vanderbilt, Johns Hopkins, UChicago all have similar ROI to Berkeley, which is $656,000. The difference is even lower. I could have spent that money going to UCLA or Berkeley instead, to be honest, and if I were in-state, going to Berkeley is really a no-brainer. |
I looked up the stats for Georgia, Georgia Tech has a higher ROI than Emory. That's if you want to study STEM, of course. Still a better deal than going to UGA. |
Gatech grads are engineers... Emory doesn't have that. If Gatech wasn't higher, it would be embarrassing for them. |
You're purposefully missing the point. Cost of attendance is taken into account in ROI, so if you can afford a private school, and all it's advantages like small classes and guidance you should go because the return on investment is the same if not better. Why suffer at overcrowded and dirty UC Berkeley of you don't have to? |
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40-year ROI tiers:
$2 million: Stanford, MIT $1.9 million: Harvard, Babson, Georgetown $1.8 million: Harvey Mudd, Penn, Caltech $1.7 million: Yale, Columbia, Duke, CMU, Georgia Tech $1.6 million: Lehigh, Princeton, Notre Dame, Cornell $1.5 million: Washington & Lee, Villanova, Dartmouth, Tufts, USC, Case Western, Claremont McKenna, JHU $1.4 million: BC, Vanderbilt, Northwestern, Holy Cross, UChicago, GWU, Bucknell, Cal Poly, Lafayette $1.3 million: Rice, Northeastern, Berkeley, Brown, Drexel, Emory, Michigan, Bowdoin, Amherst, Trinity, UMD, Colgate, Union, U of Richmond, Virginia Tech, Pepperdine, UCLA $1.2 million: UIUC, BU, UVA, Wake Forest, Baruch, UCSD, BYU, UWashington, Wellesley, George Mason, UC Irvine, Hamilton, Syracuse, UT-Austin, Pomona, UC Davis, SMU, Rochester, Davidson, William & Mary, Stony Brook, UConn, Texas A&M, UMiami, Colby, Haverford, Williams, Delaware, Rutgers, U of Baltimore, NYU, Florida, Bates, Barnard $1.1 million: AU, Franklin and Marshall, Middlebury, UNC, Purdue, James Madison, Wisconsin-Madison, Fordham, Swarthmore, UC Santa Barbara, Dickinson, UIC, Brandeis, Yeshiva, Gettysburg, Utah, Michigan State, Bryn Mawr, Clemson, Vassar $1 million: U of Rhode Island, Minnesota, Connecticut College, Wesleyan, U of New Hampshire, Carleton, Georgia, UPitt, UMass-Amherst, Colorado-Boulder, Temple, CCNY, Wofford, Furman, Hampden-Sydney, Indiana-Bloomington, U of Kansas, Elon, Occidental, Baylor 900k: Howard, Arizona, Auburn, Skidmore, Grinnell, Denison, Oklahoma State, Kalamazoo, U of Vermont, U of Nevada-Las Vegas Again, second-rate private schools and LACs aren't really THAT better (as claimed by some DCUM prestige wh*res) than some of the flagship state universities that I have not listed in their entirety. |
Unless it's the Ivy League, Stanford, MIT, or some top-ranked private engineering school, it really doesn't make that big of a difference as you make out to be. Berkeley and UCLA have a higher ROI than most privates and are much more well-known schools. Plus, you are not really worried about paying back your student loans immediately after college if you're in-state, as opposed doling out 200k for a USC degree, which isn't that great of a school either. You picked the wrong fight, hon. |
The public schools actually aren't doing great. Especially ones like Umich that aren't really economically diverse. Umich is 50 oos students, they can afford private schools no problem. Also publics are tech/stem power houses...right?!. UCB is in Silicon Valley yet can't beat schools like Emory, Brown, Amherst, Georgetown that don't have engineering at all. The privates you call second rate (they aren't BTW) are still better than the best publics. |