ICE Shooting in Minneapolis

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"F--king b---h."

Those words seemed to come pretty easy on his tongue. Jonathan Ross.

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“Drive, baby drive” shouted as the agent was in front of the vehicle. He feared for his life and made a fateful decision. Very tragic for all but I have empathy for law enforcement who put their lives on the line and make split second decisions that can have such devastating consequences.

This is why taunting and provoking officers is never a good idea. Pure stupidity or maybe just naïveté on the part of the protesters, imo.

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Anonymous wrote:I just finished reading an article on the ICE agent’s background. He was based in Minneapolis, so not someone unfamiliar with the area or the cultural values.

He was also highly trained, which makes it even more curious that he had such little impulse control and lacked discipline in the field. From the article:

Ross said he has served as a deportation officer based in Minnesota since he joined ICE in 2015. He is assigned to fugitive operations, seeking to arrest “higher value targets” in the ICE region that includes Minneapolis, he testified last month. He said that he was also a team leader with the FBI’s Joint Terrorism Task Force.

“So I develop the targets, create a target package, surveillance, and then develop a plan to execute the arrest warrant,” he said.

Ross said that he was also a firearms instructor, an active shooter instructor, a field intelligence officer and member of the SWAT team. He said that he attended the Border Patrol’s academy in New Mexico, where he learned to speak Spanish.

https://www.wbur.org/news/2026/01/09/johnathan-ross-ice-killing-renee-good-minneapolis-background

And just ruined the rest of his life.

What did he ruin? He becomes a MAGA hero.

He’ll never live a normal life again. He’s already abandoned his home.

Nor should he. He is a murderer and should be behind bars. But I do feel sorry for his children and his wife.

I think it's very likely that a man who said "f'ing bit**" right after shooting a woman in the head is not an ideal husband. As a woman, if I ever heard my husband or father use words like that, I would never feel the same about them. It's not like they've never sworn, but it was never something demeaning to women or even men.

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Anonymous wrote:Would you tell your own child to follow and harass the police for hours, then block traffic and then drive away once confronted by the police?

Would you tell your child to shoot someone in the face three times for blocking the road?

If after they blocked the road and then tried to run me over, yes.

Do you know the first thing an officer tells a drunk as they are pleading to be let go and they’ll take an uber? They say, in your condition we have no idea what harm you may have caused tonight in your condition. We are doing this for everyone’s safety.

In Renee’s case, it was her own safety she sacrificed, and for what.

Would you tell your daughter to get out of the vehicle and go with the unidentified masked men screaming in her face and pointing a gun at her? Or would you tell her to drive away?

I would advise her to not participate.

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Anonymous wrote:Would you tell your own child to follow and harass the police for hours, then block traffic and then drive away once confronted by the police?

Would you tell your child to shoot someone in the face three times for blocking the road?

If after they blocked the road and then tried to run me over, yes.

Do you know the first thing an officer tells a drunk as they are pleading to be let go and they’ll take an uber? They say, in your condition we have no idea what harm you may have caused tonight in your condition. We are doing this for everyone’s safety.

In Renee’s case, it was her own safety she sacrificed, and for what.

Would you tell your daughter to get out of the vehicle and go with the unidentified masked men screaming in her face and pointing a gun at her? Or would you tell her to drive away?

I would tell my daughter not to disrupt a lawful proceeding and to obey the people she knows are police. In the victim's case, she brought a car to a gun fight.

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Anonymous wrote:“Drive, baby drive” shouted as the agent was in front of the vehicle. He feared for his life and made a fateful decision. Very tragic for all but I have empathy for law enforcement who put their lives on the line and make split second decisions that can have such devastating consequences.

This is why taunting and provoking officers is never a good idea. Pure stupidity or maybe just naïveté on the part of the protesters, imo.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:Can somebody who shares the viewpoint and values of the woman and her wife answer this - how were they hoping that the interaction would end?

I'm sure they would have been okay with getting a ticket, maybe having to pay a fine. Maybe spend some time in jail. Those are the normal consequences for civil disobedience, not getting killed.

If the car had stayed in park, that’s probably all that would have happened.

"If she had kept quiet, her husband wouldn't have had to break her arm."

Poor analogy. Obey laws.

Would you be saying the same thing with 2000 dead J6ers strewn across the Capital grounds?

PP here. Yes, I would. I'm sick snd tired of belligerent, in your face, taunting, horn honking protests and folks who think they have the right to block streets and buildingss, enter federal buildings, destroy property, disobey laws, steal ftom stores, start fires, and disrupt people's everyday going to work lives. FWIW, the J 6ers belong in jail.

So you mean the armed, masked vigilantes harassing and kidnapping brown people? You’re sick and tired of that? Good. So are we.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Would you tell your own child to follow and harass the police for hours, then block traffic and then drive away once confronted by the police?

Would you tell your child to shoot someone in the face three times for blocking the road?

If after they blocked the road and then tried to run me over, yes.

Do you know the first thing an officer tells a drunk as they are pleading to be let go and they’ll take an uber? They say, in your condition we have no idea what harm you may have caused tonight in your condition. We are doing this for everyone’s safety.

In Renee’s case, it was her own safety she sacrificed, and for what.

Would you tell your daughter to get out of the vehicle and go with the unidentified masked men screaming in her face and pointing a gun at her? Or would you tell her to drive away?

I would tell my daughter not to disrupt a lawful proceeding and to obey the people she knows are police. In the victim's case, she brought a car to a gun fight.

+1

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Here's what they were doing: They were engaging in performance theater, hence the filming of themselves. They were behaving in a way intended to provoke a confrontation. While the death of one of the pair was likely an unintended consequence, it was also the result of foolish choices, self-aggrandizing behavior, and a wanton disregard for the risks they posed to themselves and to others by trying to attract law enforcement attention and then trying to evade it in what can be a deadly weapon when operated recklessly and in contravention of law enforcement instructions. Tragic, but self-inflicted.

This is an un-American take. Americans have the right to peaceful protest, including performative protest; including non-violent civil disobedience. In fact, we have a long history of it.

Why do you have America?

How many Minnesota politicians are on video urging residents to “fight back”, “put your body on the line”, “have to go through me.” They are not calling for peaceful resistance and we are not witnessing peaceful resistance.

Zero politicians in Minnesota have called for violence. Zero. Fight is used metaphorically, give me a break. The rest of the words are perfect examples of peaceful resistance to injustice.

These politicians are using inflammatory words to radicalize their base against law enforcement. The right to protest does not include obstructing, impeding and attacking law enforcement officers in the course of their duties. A lot of the actions of the so called “protestors” I’ve see have been unlawful. And what is the injustice? People who knowingly came here illegally are being removed. What is the injustice in that?

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can somebody who shares the viewpoint and values of the woman and her wife answer this - how were they hoping that the interaction would end?

I'm sure they would have been okay with getting a ticket, maybe having to pay a fine. Maybe spend some time in jail. Those are the normal consequences for civil disobedience, not getting killed.

If the car had stayed in park, that’s probably all that would have happened.

"If she had kept quiet, her husband wouldn't have had to break her arm."

Poor analogy. Obey laws.

Would you be saying the same thing with 2000 dead J6ers strewn across the Capital grounds?

PP here. Yes, I would. I'm sick snd tired of belligerent, in your face, taunting, horn honking protests and folks who think they have the right to block streets and buildingss, enter federal buildings, destroy property, disobey laws, steal ftom stores, start fires, and disrupt people's everyday going to work lives. FWIW, the J 6ers belong in jail.

So you mean the armed, masked vigilantes harassing and kidnapping brown people? You’re sick and tired of that? Good. So are we.

Sick of university protestors, too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“Drive, baby drive” shouted as the agent was in front of the vehicle. He feared for his life and made a fateful decision. Very tragic for all but I have empathy for law enforcement who put their lives on the line and make split second decisions that can have such devastating consequences.

This is why taunting and provoking officers is never a good idea. Pure stupidity or maybe just naïveté on the part of the protesters, imo.

"He feared for his life?" Really? Both instinct and training should have told him to back up, not step forward and lean into a moving car, and not to shoot someone in the head whose foot was on the pedal.

Instinct tells you to do that, without any training. He was supposed to ALSO follow training that told him not to do that. But he overcame instinct and training to shut up the "f**king b***h" anyway.

That's not fearing for your life. That's being pissed off and unable to do what he was supposed to do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Here's what they were doing: They were engaging in performance theater, hence the filming of themselves. They were behaving in a way intended to provoke a confrontation. While the death of one of the pair was likely an unintended consequence, it was also the result of foolish choices, self-aggrandizing behavior, and a wanton disregard for the risks they posed to themselves and to others by trying to attract law enforcement attention and then trying to evade it in what can be a deadly weapon when operated recklessly and in contravention of law enforcement instructions. Tragic, but self-inflicted.

This is an un-American take. Americans have the right to peaceful protest, including performative protest; including non-violent civil disobedience. In fact, we have a long history of it.

Why do you have America?

How many Minnesota politicians are on video urging residents to “fight back”, “put your body on the line”, “have to go through me.” They are not calling for peaceful resistance and we are not witnessing peaceful resistance.

Zero politicians in Minnesota have called for violence. Zero. Fight is used metaphorically, give me a break. The rest of the words are perfect examples of peaceful resistance to injustice.

These politicians are using inflammatory words to radicalize their base against law enforcement. The right to protest does not include obstructing, impeding and attacking law enforcement officers in the course of their duties. A lot of the actions of the so called “protestors” I’ve see have been unlawful. And what is the injustice? People who knowingly came here illegally are being removed. What is the injustice in that?

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“Drive, baby drive” shouted as the agent was in front of the vehicle. He feared for his life and made a fateful decision. Very tragic for all but I have empathy for law enforcement who put their lives on the line and make split second decisions that can have such devastating consequences.

This is why taunting and provoking officers is never a good idea. Pure stupidity or maybe just naïveté on the part of the protesters, imo.

Couldn't we just stop stop scraping the bottom of the barrel for ICE officers and have them stop breaking the law?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Would you tell your own child to follow and harass the police for hours, then block traffic and then drive away once confronted by the police?

Would you tell your child to shoot someone in the face three times for blocking the road?

If after they blocked the road and then tried to run me over, yes.

Do you know the first thing an officer tells a drunk as they are pleading to be let go and they’ll take an uber? They say, in your condition we have no idea what harm you may have caused tonight in your condition. We are doing this for everyone’s safety.

In Renee’s case, it was her own safety she sacrificed, and for what.

Would you tell your daughter to get out of the vehicle and go with the unidentified masked men screaming in her face and pointing a gun at her? Or would you tell her to drive away?

I would tell my daughter not to disrupt a lawful proceeding and to obey the people she knows are police. In the victim's case, she brought a car to a gun fight.

+1000

The liberals in this site keep saying this shooting means the public should be afraid of ICE agents shooting us when most of us would never put ourselves in the situation that woman did. We would never have the arrogance to believe we could disrupt and obstruct law enforcement officers or ignore their instructions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can somebody who shares the viewpoint and values of the woman and her wife answer this - how were they hoping that the interaction would end?

I'm sure they would have been okay with getting a ticket, maybe having to pay a fine. Maybe spend some time in jail. Those are the normal consequences for civil disobedience, not getting killed.

If the car had stayed in park, that’s probably all that would have happened.

"If she had kept quiet, her husband wouldn't have had to break her arm."

Poor analogy. Obey laws.

Would you be saying the same thing with 2000 dead J6ers strewn across the Capital grounds?

PP here. Yes, I would. I'm sick snd tired of belligerent, in your face, taunting, horn honking protests and folks who think they have the right to block streets and buildingss, enter federal buildings, destroy property, disobey laws, steal ftom stores, start fires, and disrupt people's everyday going to work lives. FWIW, the J 6ers belong in jail.

So you mean the armed, masked vigilantes harassing and kidnapping brown people? You’re sick and tired of that? Good. So are we.

Sick of university protestors, too.

How would MAGAs encounter those?