ICE Shooting in Minneapolis

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can somebody who shares the viewpoint and values of the woman and her wife answer this - how were they hoping that the interaction would end?

I'm sure they would have been okay with getting a ticket, maybe having to pay a fine. Maybe spend some time in jail. Those are the normal consequences for civil disobedience, not getting killed.

If the car had stayed in park, that’s probably all that would have happened.

"If she had kept quiet, her husband wouldn't have had to break her arm."

Poor analogy. Obey laws.

Would you be saying the same thing with 2000 dead J6ers strewn across the Capital grounds?

PP here. Yes, I would. I'm sick snd tired of belligerent, in your face, taunting, horn honking protests and folks who think they have the right to block streets and buildingss, enter federal buildings, destroy property, disobey laws, steal ftom stores, start fires, and disrupt people's everyday going to work lives. FWIW, the J 6ers belong in jail.

America is not the place for you if you don’t like protests.

What I described.is.not peaceful.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Would you tell your own child to follow and harass the police for hours, then block traffic and then drive away once confronted by the police?

That's not what they were doing.

Here's what they were doing: They were engaging in performance theater, hence the filming of themselves. They were behaving in a way intended to provoke a confrontation. While the death of one of the pair was likely an unintended consequence, it was also the result of foolish choices, self-aggrandizing behavior, and a wanton disregard for the risks they posed to themselves and to others by trying to attract law enforcement attention and then trying to evade it in what can be a deadly weapon when operated recklessly and in contravention of law enforcement instructions. Tragic, but self-inflicted.

If you actually believed the one relevant detail (the "deadly weapon" threat), you wouldn't have to write the rest of the paragraph. Even if the rest were true, it is totally irrelevant. "Self-aggrandizing behavior" is not a capital offense. There is nothing self-inflected here. An out of control ICE officer murdered a woman and has now gone into hiding to avoid vigilante justice.

Fixed it for you

You know, when you don’t provide regular justice….

Anyway, he could have avoided all this by not being a murderer. Too bad so sad.

The Democrats will get back the House in 2026 and the Presidency in 2028. His career trajectory with DHS is over.

[Anonymous]

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Here's what they were doing: They were engaging in performance theater, hence the filming of themselves. They were behaving in a way intended to provoke a confrontation. While the death of one of the pair was likely an unintended consequence, it was also the result of foolish choices, self-aggrandizing behavior, and a wanton disregard for the risks they posed to themselves and to others by trying to attract law enforcement attention and then trying to evade it in what can be a deadly weapon when operated recklessly and in contravention of law enforcement instructions. Tragic, but self-inflicted.

This is an un-American take. Americans have the right to peaceful protest, including performative protest; including non-violent civil disobedience. In fact, we have a long history of it.

Why do you have America?

How many Minnesota politicians are on video urging residents to “fight back”, “put your body on the line”, “have to go through me.” They are not calling for peaceful resistance and we are not witnessing peaceful resistance.

Zero politicians in Minnesota have called for violence. Zero. Fight is used metaphorically, give me a break. The rest of the words are perfect examples of peaceful resistance to injustice.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can somebody who shares the viewpoint and values of the woman and her wife answer this - how were they hoping that the interaction would end?

I'm sure they would have been okay with getting a ticket, maybe having to pay a fine. Maybe spend some time in jail. Those are the normal consequences for civil disobedience, not getting killed.

If the car had stayed in park, that’s probably all that would have happened.

"If she had kept quiet, her husband wouldn't have had to break her arm."

Poor analogy. Obey laws.

Would you be saying the same thing with 2000 dead J6ers strewn across the Capital grounds?

PP here. Yes, I would. I'm sick snd tired of belligerent, in your face, taunting, horn honking protests and folks who think they have the right to block streets and buildingss, enter federal buildings, destroy property, disobey laws, steal ftom stores, start fires, and disrupt people's everyday going to work lives. FWIW, the J 6ers belong in jail.

America is not the place for you if you don’t like protests.

What I described.is.not peaceful.

It also isn't what she was doing. Or almost anyone else. The protests since the beginning of the Trump presidency have been large and overwhelmingly peaceful. If you don't like chanting or honking, stay home.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Here's what they were doing: They were engaging in performance theater, hence the filming of themselves. They were behaving in a way intended to provoke a confrontation. While the death of one of the pair was likely an unintended consequence, it was also the result of foolish choices, self-aggrandizing behavior, and a wanton disregard for the risks they posed to themselves and to others by trying to attract law enforcement attention and then trying to evade it in what can be a deadly weapon when operated recklessly and in contravention of law enforcement instructions. Tragic, but self-inflicted.

This is an un-American take. Americans have the right to peaceful protest, including performative protest; including non-violent civil disobedience. In fact, we have a long history of it.

Why do you have America?

How many Minnesota politicians are on video urging residents to “fight back”, “put your body on the line”, “have to go through me.” They are not calling for peaceful resistance and we are not witnessing peaceful resistance.

Zero politicians in Minnesota have called for violence. Zero. Fight is used metaphorically, give me a break. The rest of the words are perfect examples of peaceful resistance to injustice.

“War”, “fight”, “put your body on the line.” Haven’t heard the word “peaceful” once.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just finished reading an article on the ICE agent’s background. He was based in Minneapolis, so not someone unfamiliar with the area or the cultural values.

He was also highly trained, which makes it even more curious that he had such little impulse control and lacked discipline in the field. From the article:

Ross said he has served as a deportation officer based in Minnesota since he joined ICE in 2015. He is assigned to fugitive operations, seeking to arrest “higher value targets” in the ICE region that includes Minneapolis, he testified last month. He said that he was also a team leader with the FBI’s Joint Terrorism Task Force.

“So I develop the targets, create a target package, surveillance, and then develop a plan to execute the arrest warrant,” he said.

Ross said that he was also a firearms instructor, an active shooter instructor, a field intelligence officer and member of the SWAT team. He said that he attended the Border Patrol’s academy in New Mexico, where he learned to speak Spanish.

https://www.wbur.org/news/2026/01/09/johnathan-ross-ice-killing-renee-good-minneapolis-background

And just ruined the rest of his life.

What did he ruin? He becomes a MAGA hero.

He’ll never live a normal life again. He’s already abandoned his home.

Nor should he. He is a murderer and should be behind bars. But I do feel sorry for his children and his wife.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Here's what they were doing: They were engaging in performance theater, hence the filming of themselves. They were behaving in a way intended to provoke a confrontation. While the death of one of the pair was likely an unintended consequence, it was also the result of foolish choices, self-aggrandizing behavior, and a wanton disregard for the risks they posed to themselves and to others by trying to attract law enforcement attention and then trying to evade it in what can be a deadly weapon when operated recklessly and in contravention of law enforcement instructions. Tragic, but self-inflicted.

This is an un-American take. Americans have the right to peaceful protest, including performative protest; including non-violent civil disobedience. In fact, we have a long history of it.

Why do you have America?

How many Minnesota politicians are on video urging residents to “fight back”, “put your body on the line”, “have to go through me.” They are not calling for peaceful resistance and we are not witnessing peaceful resistance.

Zero politicians in Minnesota have called for violence. Zero. Fight is used metaphorically, give me a break. The rest of the words are perfect examples of peaceful resistance to injustice.

“War”, “fight”, “put your body on the line.” Haven’t heard the word “peaceful” once.

Who are you quoting?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Here's what they were doing: They were engaging in performance theater, hence the filming of themselves. They were behaving in a way intended to provoke a confrontation. While the death of one of the pair was likely an unintended consequence, it was also the result of foolish choices, self-aggrandizing behavior, and a wanton disregard for the risks they posed to themselves and to others by trying to attract law enforcement attention and then trying to evade it in what can be a deadly weapon when operated recklessly and in contravention of law enforcement instructions. Tragic, but self-inflicted.

This is an un-American take. Americans have the right to peaceful protest, including performative protest; including non-violent civil disobedience. In fact, we have a long history of it.

Why do you have America?

How many Minnesota politicians are on video urging residents to “fight back”, “put your body on the line”, “have to go through me.” They are not calling for peaceful resistance and we are not witnessing peaceful resistance.

Zero politicians in Minnesota have called for violence. Zero. Fight is used metaphorically, give me a break. The rest of the words are perfect examples of peaceful resistance to injustice.

“War”, “fight”, “put your body on the line.” Haven’t heard the word “peaceful” once.

What in the world are you talking about? Have you been to any rallies? You sound like you hate America.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Here's what they were doing: They were engaging in performance theater, hence the filming of themselves. They were behaving in a way intended to provoke a confrontation. While the death of one of the pair was likely an unintended consequence, it was also the result of foolish choices, self-aggrandizing behavior, and a wanton disregard for the risks they posed to themselves and to others by trying to attract law enforcement attention and then trying to evade it in what can be a deadly weapon when operated recklessly and in contravention of law enforcement instructions. Tragic, but self-inflicted.

This is an un-American take. Americans have the right to peaceful protest, including performative protest; including non-violent civil disobedience. In fact, we have a long history of it.

Why do you have America?

How many Minnesota politicians are on video urging residents to “fight back”, “put your body on the line”, “have to go through me.” They are not calling for peaceful resistance and we are not witnessing peaceful resistance.

Zero politicians in Minnesota have called for violence. Zero. Fight is used metaphorically, give me a break. The rest of the words are perfect examples of peaceful resistance to injustice.

“War”, “fight”, “put your body on the line.” Haven’t heard the word “peaceful” once.

Feel free to link to what you're seeing. Those of us who are not MAGA don't read MAGA news sources. Link and we can read and evaluate the tone for ourselves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can somebody who shares the viewpoint and values of the woman and her wife answer this - how were they hoping that the interaction would end?

I'm sure they would have been okay with getting a ticket, maybe having to pay a fine. Maybe spend some time in jail. Those are the normal consequences for civil disobedience, not getting killed.

If the car had stayed in park, that’s probably all that would have happened.

"If she had kept quiet, her husband wouldn't have had to break her arm."

Poor analogy. Obey laws.

Would you be saying the same thing with 2000 dead J6ers strewn across the Capital grounds?

PP here. Yes, I would. I'm sick snd tired of belligerent, in your face, taunting, horn honking protests and folks who think they have the right to block streets and buildingss, enter federal buildings, destroy property, disobey laws, steal ftom stores, start fires, and disrupt people's everyday going to work lives. FWIW, the J 6ers belong in jail.

America is not the place for you if you don’t like protests.

What I described.is.not peaceful.

Peaceful is about whether people get hurt. If you are familiar with American culture, "sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me." WOrds don't count here. You're supposed to be able to face words. The getting shot in the face, not so much -- that's the violent part.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just finished reading an article on the ICE agent’s background. He was based in Minneapolis, so not someone unfamiliar with the area or the cultural values.

He was also highly trained, which makes it even more curious that he had such little impulse control and lacked discipline in the field. From the article:

Ross said he has served as a deportation officer based in Minnesota since he joined ICE in 2015. He is assigned to fugitive operations, seeking to arrest “higher value targets” in the ICE region that includes Minneapolis, he testified last month. He said that he was also a team leader with the FBI’s Joint Terrorism Task Force.

“So I develop the targets, create a target package, surveillance, and then develop a plan to execute the arrest warrant,” he said.

Ross said that he was also a firearms instructor, an active shooter instructor, a field intelligence officer and member of the SWAT team. He said that he attended the Border Patrol’s academy in New Mexico, where he learned to speak Spanish.

https://www.wbur.org/news/2026/01/09/johnathan-ross-ice-killing-renee-good-minneapolis-background

And just ruined the rest of his life.

What did he ruin? He becomes a MAGA hero.

He’ll never live a normal life again. He’s already abandoned his home.

Nor should he. He is a murderer and should be behind bars. But I do feel sorry for his children and his wife.

Statistics would indicate there might well be other reasons to feel sorry for them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Would you tell your own child to follow and harass the police for hours, then block traffic and then drive away once confronted by the police?

Would you tell your child to shoot someone in the face three times for blocking the road?

If after they blocked the road and then tried to run me over, yes.

Do you know the first thing an officer tells a drunk as they are pleading to be let go and they’ll take an uber? They say, in your condition we have no idea what harm you may have caused tonight in your condition. We are doing this for everyone’s safety.

In Renee’s case, it was her own safety she sacrificed, and for what.

Would you tell your daughter to get out of the vehicle and go with the unidentified masked men screaming in her face and pointing a gun at her? Or would you tell her to drive away?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Peaceful protesting would have been standing on the sidewalk with a sign or chanting. She could have made her point and still would be alive.

Exactly. I found the women’s demeanor bizarre— like they were enjoying themselves and doing this as a lark.

Do you find it bizarre that a grown man shot an unarmed woman in the face because her wife hurt his feelings?

I think it’s sad a life was lost and a career ruined.

A life wasn’t “lost” - an innocent, unarmed, non-violent woman was MURDERED in cold blood.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just finished reading an article on the ICE agent’s background. He was based in Minneapolis, so not someone unfamiliar with the area or the cultural values.

He was also highly trained, which makes it even more curious that he had such little impulse control and lacked discipline in the field. From the article:

Ross said he has served as a deportation officer based in Minnesota since he joined ICE in 2015. He is assigned to fugitive operations, seeking to arrest “higher value targets” in the ICE region that includes Minneapolis, he testified last month. He said that he was also a team leader with the FBI’s Joint Terrorism Task Force.

“So I develop the targets, create a target package, surveillance, and then develop a plan to execute the arrest warrant,” he said.

Ross said that he was also a firearms instructor, an active shooter instructor, a field intelligence officer and member of the SWAT team. He said that he attended the Border Patrol’s academy in New Mexico, where he learned to speak Spanish.

https://www.wbur.org/news/2026/01/09/johnathan-ross-ice-killing-renee-good-minneapolis-background

And just ruined the rest of his life.

What did he ruin? He becomes a MAGA hero.

He’ll never live a normal life again. He’s already abandoned his home.

Nor should he. He is a murderer and should be behind bars. But I do feel sorry for his children and his wife.

His wife is going to end up divorcing him just like Chauvin’s wife dumped him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can somebody who shares the viewpoint and values of the woman and her wife answer this - how were they hoping that the interaction would end?

I'm sure they would have been okay with getting a ticket, maybe having to pay a fine. Maybe spend some time in jail. Those are the normal consequences for civil disobedience, not getting killed.

If the car had stayed in park, that’s probably all that would have happened.

"If she had kept quiet, her husband wouldn't have had to break her arm."

Poor analogy. Obey laws.

Would you be saying the same thing with 2000 dead J6ers strewn across the Capital grounds?

PP here. Yes, I would. I'm sick snd tired of belligerent, in your face, taunting, horn honking protests and folks who think they have the right to block streets and buildingss, enter federal buildings, destroy property, disobey laws, steal ftom stores, start fires, and disrupt people's everyday going to work lives. FWIW, the J 6ers belong in jail.

America is not the place for you if you don’t like protests.

What I described.is.not peaceful.

It also isn't what she was doing. Or almost anyone else. The protests since the beginning of the Trump presidency have been large and overwhelmingly peaceful. If you don't like chanting or honking, stay home.

I was describing all kinds of.protests-- not saying this one.included all those things. I do feel for.the people.living there who had to endure the noise and disruptions.