ICE Shooting in Minneapolis

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He's a weak and angry little baby man who never should have had access to a gun.

How many mothers have had to put up with getting called names by children having a tantrum, and he loses control like this? Doesn't even have the mental strength of the average woman.

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Anonymous wrote:“Drive, baby drive” shouted as the agent was in front of the vehicle. He feared for his life and made a fateful decision. Very tragic for all but I have empathy for law enforcement who put their lives on the line and make split second decisions that can have such devastating consequences.

This is why taunting and provoking officers is never a good idea. Pure stupidity or maybe just naïveté on the part of the protesters, imo.

I'm a liberal and agree. I certainly wouldn't do it, mostly because it's unproductive. At the same time, "taunting and provoking" officers is never a good reason to be executed by one. The officers, as trained ARMED individuals have an ethical duty to use those arms judiciously. They need to have better self control than citizens, in my opinion, especially unarmed ones.

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Here's what they were doing: They were engaging in performance theater, hence the filming of themselves. They were behaving in a way intended to provoke a confrontation. While the death of one of the pair was likely an unintended consequence, it was also the result of foolish choices, self-aggrandizing behavior, and a wanton disregard for the risks they posed to themselves and to others by trying to attract law enforcement attention and then trying to evade it in what can be a deadly weapon when operated recklessly and in contravention of law enforcement instructions. Tragic, but self-inflicted.

This is an un-American take. Americans have the right to peaceful protest, including performative protest; including non-violent civil disobedience. In fact, we have a long history of it.

Why do you have America?

How many Minnesota politicians are on video urging residents to “fight back”, “put your body on the line”, “have to go through me.” They are not calling for peaceful resistance and we are not witnessing peaceful resistance.

Zero politicians in Minnesota have called for violence. Zero. Fight is used metaphorically, give me a break. The rest of the words are perfect examples of peaceful resistance to injustice.

These politicians are using inflammatory words to radicalize their base against law enforcement. The right to protest does not include obstructing, impeding and attacking law enforcement officers in the course of their duties. A lot of the actions of the so called “protestors” I’ve see have been unlawful. And what is the injustice? People who knowingly came here illegally are being removed. What is the injustice in that?

They still can’t murder people for hurting their fee fees.

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Anonymous wrote:“Drive, baby drive” shouted as the agent was in front of the vehicle. He feared for his life and made a fateful decision. Very tragic for all but I have empathy for law enforcement who put their lives on the line and make split second decisions that can have such devastating consequences.

This is why taunting and provoking officers is never a good idea. Pure stupidity or maybe just naïveté on the part of the protesters, imo.

It’s beyond clownish to still be saying he feared for his life. Have you ever walked in a parking lot?

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Anonymous wrote:Would you tell your own child to follow and harass the police for hours, then block traffic and then drive away once confronted by the police?

Would you tell your child to shoot someone in the face three times for blocking the road?

If after they blocked the road and then tried to run me over, yes.

Do you know the first thing an officer tells a drunk as they are pleading to be let go and they’ll take an uber? They say, in your condition we have no idea what harm you may have caused tonight in your condition. We are doing this for everyone’s safety.

In Renee’s case, it was her own safety she sacrificed, and for what.

Would you tell your daughter to get out of the vehicle and go with the unidentified masked men screaming in her face and pointing a gun at her? Or would you tell her to drive away?

I would tell my daughter not to disrupt a lawful proceeding and to obey the people she knows are police. In the victim's case, she brought a car to a gun fight.

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The liberals in this site keep saying this shooting means the public should be afraid of ICE agents shooting us when most of us would never put ourselves in the situation that woman did. We would never have the arrogance to believe we could disrupt and obstruct law enforcement officers or ignore their instructions.

She got conflicting instructions.

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Anonymous wrote:Can somebody who shares the viewpoint and values of the woman and her wife answer this - how were they hoping that the interaction would end?

I'm sure they would have been okay with getting a ticket, maybe having to pay a fine. Maybe spend some time in jail. Those are the normal consequences for civil disobedience, not getting killed.

If the car had stayed in park, that’s probably all that would have happened.

"If she had kept quiet, her husband wouldn't have had to break her arm."

Poor analogy. Obey laws.

Would you be saying the same thing with 2000 dead J6ers strewn across the Capital grounds?

PP here. Yes, I would. I'm sick snd tired of belligerent, in your face, taunting, horn honking protests and folks who think they have the right to block streets and buildingss, enter federal buildings, destroy property, disobey laws, steal ftom stores, start fires, and disrupt people's everyday going to work lives. FWIW, the J 6ers belong in jail.

So you mean the armed, masked vigilantes harassing and kidnapping brown people? You’re sick and tired of that? Good. So are we.

Sick of university protestors, too.

I'm pretty sure you've never been anywhere near a university.

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Anonymous wrote:I just finished reading an article on the ICE agent’s background. He was based in Minneapolis, so not someone unfamiliar with the area or the cultural values.

He was also highly trained, which makes it even more curious that he had such little impulse control and lacked discipline in the field. From the article:

Ross said he has served as a deportation officer based in Minnesota since he joined ICE in 2015. He is assigned to fugitive operations, seeking to arrest “higher value targets” in the ICE region that includes Minneapolis, he testified last month. He said that he was also a team leader with the FBI’s Joint Terrorism Task Force.

“So I develop the targets, create a target package, surveillance, and then develop a plan to execute the arrest warrant,” he said.

Ross said that he was also a firearms instructor, an active shooter instructor, a field intelligence officer and member of the SWAT team. He said that he attended the Border Patrol’s academy in New Mexico, where he learned to speak Spanish.

https://www.wbur.org/news/2026/01/09/johnathan-ross-ice-killing-renee-good-minneapolis-background

And just ruined the rest of his life.

What did he ruin? He becomes a MAGA hero.

He’ll never live a normal life again. He’s already abandoned his home.

Nor should he. He is a murderer and should be behind bars. But I do feel sorry for his children and his wife.

They’ll be better off with him locked up. I’d be willing to bet he is violent at home.

[Anonymous]

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He's a weak and angry little baby man who never should have had access to a gun.

How many mothers have had to put up with getting called names by children having a tantrum, and he loses control like this? Doesn't even have the mental strength of the average woman.

Honestly, have you seen how these I E clowns deal with the public?

They is no shortage of videos showing how insulting they are.

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Anonymous wrote:Would you tell your own child to follow and harass the police for hours, then block traffic and then drive away once confronted by the police?

Would you tell your child to shoot someone in the face three times for blocking the road?

If after they blocked the road and then tried to run me over, yes.

Do you know the first thing an officer tells a drunk as they are pleading to be let go and they’ll take an uber? They say, in your condition we have no idea what harm you may have caused tonight in your condition. We are doing this for everyone’s safety.

In Renee’s case, it was her own safety she sacrificed, and for what.

Would you tell your daughter to get out of the vehicle and go with the unidentified masked men screaming in her face and pointing a gun at her? Or would you tell her to drive away?

I would advise her to not participate.

You didn’t answer the question. Would you tell your daughter to get out of her car when she is being yelled at, pawed at, and threatened with firearms by unidentified masked men?

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Anonymous wrote:I just finished reading an article on the ICE agent’s background. He was based in Minneapolis, so not someone unfamiliar with the area or the cultural values.

He was also highly trained, which makes it even more curious that he had such little impulse control and lacked discipline in the field. From the article:

Ross said he has served as a deportation officer based in Minnesota since he joined ICE in 2015. He is assigned to fugitive operations, seeking to arrest “higher value targets” in the ICE region that includes Minneapolis, he testified last month. He said that he was also a team leader with the FBI’s Joint Terrorism Task Force.

“So I develop the targets, create a target package, surveillance, and then develop a plan to execute the arrest warrant,” he said.

Ross said that he was also a firearms instructor, an active shooter instructor, a field intelligence officer and member of the SWAT team. He said that he attended the Border Patrol’s academy in New Mexico, where he learned to speak Spanish.

https://www.wbur.org/news/2026/01/09/johnathan-ross-ice-killing-renee-good-minneapolis-background

And just ruined the rest of his life.

What did he ruin? He becomes a MAGA hero.

He’ll never live a normal life again. He’s already abandoned his home.

Nor should he. He is a murderer and should be behind bars. But I do feel sorry for his children and his wife.

They’ll be better off with him locked up. I’d be willing to bet he is violent at home.

They are probably very relieved.

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Anonymous wrote:Former law enforcement officer, Kramer Hammy:

"It is clear that US citizens' ignorance of federal laws and law enforcement duties, procedures, and limits of authority is getting to the point where it is deadly. I spent probably 3 hours watching and re-watching, and finding every single video and angle I could of the situation in Minnesota yesterday and came to one immovable conclusion based off of what I saw and what I know from a professional standpoint. This is long, but please give it a read.

"As a former officer, let me make something clear: ICE agents ARE NOT police officers, deputy sheriffs, or troopers. They are not local/state law enforcement. They are not federal criminal law enforcement. They have an INCREDIBLY limited scope of authority, and that scope of authority exists in detaining and arresting with probable cause and/or SIGNED WARRANTS those investigated and suspected of being in the US illegally.

"They cannot just pull anyone over for a traffic violation or because their car is in a place they don't want it. They have NO authority to pull people over for ANYTHING other than immigration enforcement- and even then that involves probable cause, such as a known vehicle of someone they have been tracking, or a warrant. On very rare occasions they have the legal authority to pull someone over if they are threatening the lives of others, but that was not happening in this case. They do not have the training nor the authority to pull ANYONE else over. They cannot arrest legal citizens. They cannot detain legal citizens without probable cause to believe they might not be legal. They have ZERO authority to be attempting to force entry into a vehicle- without even identifying themselves, without a warrant, without exigent circumstances such as a life being directly threatened- that is trying to drive down the street without probable cause in relation to IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT.

"This ENTIRE situation in Minnesota was outside of the scope of legal authority from the get go. None of it was done within the scope of authority of ICE. Every single behavior those agents made was procedurally incorrect, done without proper authority, and was based off of intimidation and the assumption that people do not understand the law and their rights in regards to interactions with ICE.

"On no planet should an officer, agent, or any human being ever step in front of a car in 'drive' that is actively trying to leave and use their body as a shield to prevent a person from LEGALLY LEAVING a situation in which they are not legally being detained. It takes maybe a week of any kind of actual law enforcement training to understand that under NO CIRCUMSTANCES do you ever place yourself in front of a vehicle in 'drive.' That agent had every single opportunity to simply take two steps to the right and not be standing directly in front of a vehicle attempting to conduct their legal right to drive away.

"You can see the wheels are turned, [Renee] backed up and turned them to the right, moved forward a bit to leave, couldn't because an agent was standing in front of her, and continued to try to leave by TURNING HER WHEELS TO THE RIGHT and moving forward. He continually chose to stand there and not allow her to legally leave as she had every single right to do.

The officer pulling on her door and banging on her window and swearing at her had ZERO authority to order her out of her vehicle or attempt to make entry into her vehicle. NONE. A single day of actual training of the legal scope of authority and the LAW would've prevented that from happening.

"You now have a frightened citizen being blockaded by immigration agents (with another person in her vehicle) who had zero obligation to follow legally invalid orders from that agent, being blocked in and having a fully grown, masked man attempting to make entry into her car. If this were reversed, every single person would immediately feel she had every reasonable expectation to fear for her safety. It doesn't matter if she knew it was ICE because the agents weren't even acting in their scope of authority anyway.

"Whether or not she made the right decision by very CLEARLY- based off of how hard her wheels were turned and how low and to the driver corner windshield that shot was fired- trying to drive to the left of that agent is IRRELEVANT in the picture as a whole.

None of this would have happened if those agents had done even one single thing correctly. Not just correctly, but within their legal scope of authority. Every single moment of that interaction was escalated by untrained, unprofessional, procedurally inept "agents" who not only had zero control of themselves but everything around them. And not because they are helpless, but because their actions that did not fall under their scope of power CAUSED this. Their tempers, lack of training, and the knowledge that they can get away with violating their own scope of authority caused this.

"I will always be the first to defend law enforcement when lethal force very clearly is required. But this was not even remotely the case, and as an actual TRAINED professional in that field with experience and understanding of both the law and procedures, there is no justification for this- and it would benefit EVERYONE to actually read up on the laws, scope of authority, and use a single shred of common sense to see that this situation was started, escalated, and caused by the ICE agents involved. I have zero respect for those in power who are ignorant of the scope of their authority and abuse it at the cost of lives around them."

This makes total sense. Renee is a citizen and not a target of ice enforcement. They have no business to ask her to get out of her car in her own neighborhood. Ross should not block her from leaving legally. Shooting her dead is murder.

Ice should work with local enforcement and let them handle traffic and protests.

Congress and the Supreme Court, please do something about the federal executive branch overreach.

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Anonymous wrote:Would you tell your own child to follow and harass the police for hours, then block traffic and then drive away once confronted by the police?

Would you tell your child to shoot someone in the face three times for blocking the road?

If after they blocked the road and then tried to run me over, yes.

Do you know the first thing an officer tells a drunk as they are pleading to be let go and they’ll take an uber? They say, in your condition we have no idea what harm you may have caused tonight in your condition. We are doing this for everyone’s safety.

In Renee’s case, it was her own safety she sacrificed, and for what.

Would you tell your daughter to get out of the vehicle and go with the unidentified masked men screaming in her face and pointing a gun at her? Or would you tell her to drive away?

I would tell my daughter not to disrupt a lawful proceeding and to obey the people she knows are police. In the victim's case, she brought a car to a gun fight.

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The liberals in this site keep saying this shooting means the public should be afraid of ICE agents shooting us when most of us would never put ourselves in the situation that woman did. We would never have the arrogance to believe we could disrupt and obstruct law enforcement officers or ignore their instructions.

She got conflicting instructions.

She should have listened to law enforcement and not her wife.

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Anonymous wrote:Would you tell your own child to follow and harass the police for hours, then block traffic and then drive away once confronted by the police?

Would you tell your child to shoot someone in the face three times for blocking the road?

If after they blocked the road and then tried to run me over, yes.

Do you know the first thing an officer tells a drunk as they are pleading to be let go and they’ll take an uber? They say, in your condition we have no idea what harm you may have caused tonight in your condition. We are doing this for everyone’s safety.

In Renee’s case, it was her own safety she sacrificed, and for what.

Would you tell your daughter to get out of the vehicle and go with the unidentified masked men screaming in her face and pointing a gun at her? Or would you tell her to drive away?

I would tell my daughter not to disrupt a lawful proceeding and to obey the people she knows are police. In the victim's case, she brought a car to a gun fight.

1. She did not disrupt anything.
2. ICE has no authority to enforce traffic laws (i.e. nothing lawful about their behavior)
3. They are NOT the police
4. Even if they were, how could she know when they haven’t shown her their faces and badges?

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Anonymous wrote:Would you tell your own child to follow and harass the police for hours, then block traffic and then drive away once confronted by the police?

Would you tell your child to shoot someone in the face three times for blocking the road?

If after they blocked the road and then tried to run me over, yes.

Do you know the first thing an officer tells a drunk as they are pleading to be let go and they’ll take an uber? They say, in your condition we have no idea what harm you may have caused tonight in your condition. We are doing this for everyone’s safety.

In Renee’s case, it was her own safety she sacrificed, and for what.

Would you tell your daughter to get out of the vehicle and go with the unidentified masked men screaming in her face and pointing a gun at her? Or would you tell her to drive away?

I would tell my daughter not to disrupt a lawful proceeding and to obey the people she knows are police. In the victim's case, she brought a car to a gun fight.

+1000

The liberals in this site keep saying this shooting means the public should be afraid of ICE agents shooting us when most of us would never put ourselves in the situation that woman did. We would never have the arrogance to believe we could disrupt and obstruct law enforcement officers or ignore their instructions.

She got conflicting instructions.

She should have listened to law enforcement and not her wife.

She was told by ICE to leave AND to get out of the car.

PS - ICE is not law enforcement

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Anonymous wrote:Would you tell your own child to follow and harass the police for hours, then block traffic and then drive away once confronted by the police?

Would you tell your child to shoot someone in the face three times for blocking the road?

If after they blocked the road and then tried to run me over, yes.

Do you know the first thing an officer tells a drunk as they are pleading to be let go and they’ll take an uber? They say, in your condition we have no idea what harm you may have caused tonight in your condition. We are doing this for everyone’s safety.

In Renee’s case, it was her own safety she sacrificed, and for what.

Would you tell your daughter to get out of the vehicle and go with the unidentified masked men screaming in her face and pointing a gun at her? Or would you tell her to drive away?

I would tell my daughter not to disrupt a lawful proceeding and to obey the people she knows are police. In the victim's case, she brought a car to a gun fight.

+1000

The liberals in this site keep saying this shooting means the public should be afraid of ICE agents shooting us when most of us would never put ourselves in the situation that woman did. We would never have the arrogance to believe we could disrupt and obstruct law enforcement officers or ignore their instructions.

I hope you piss off ICE soon, Comrade. Maybe they can take out their impotent rage on their fascist apologists and leave the rest of us alone.