Western High School Boundary Map options (A/B/C/D)

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Herndon has nothing to do with Western. Neither Coates or McNair are going to be moved to Herndon, that would further increase the FARMs rates and create more issues. There is 0 reason to be discussing Herndon when talking about who is moving to Western. We don’t need that drama in this threaad.

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Anonymous wrote:Herndon has nothing to do with Western. Neither Coates or McNair are going to be moved to Herndon, that would further increase the FARMs rates and create more issues. There is 0 reason to be discussing Herndon when talking about who is moving to Western. We don’t need that drama in this threaad.

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Anonymous wrote:Why won’t Reid include Crossfield or Fox Mill when they are closer to Western than their current Pyramid Schools?

Is she planning to leave Oak Hill at Chantilly Next?

Not necessarily true for Fox Mill. Half are absolutely closer to South Lakes.

Not true.

DP. Close enough to half. Half is equidistant and some are closer to South Lakes.

From Fox Mill ES to SLHS: 3.6 miles
From Fox Mill ES to Western (KAA): 3.3 miles

Fox Mill school itself is located on the eastern side of the Fox Mill boundary. There are a sizable number of houses (Monterey Estates, Bradley Farm, and a small portion of Fox Mill Estates) west of Route 286, and they are very close to Western.

I would say about 2/3 are roughly equidistant and 1/3 is much closer to Western. Very few are closer to South Lakes.

Not enough distance to make a difference. A mile difference at most. On the other hand, Crossfield kids are not even close to equidistant to Oakton.

+1. That’s going to be the problem with Fox Mills argument.

Most of Fox Mills is closer. That's all anyone has said. No one is claiming Fox Mills currently has a long bus ride. There's not a "problem" in anyone's "argument."

If Crossfield doesn't end up at Western, it's because of Crossfield parents who want to stay at Oakton, not because of FM.

The Crossfield parents who want to move, should email and speak up. They'd find support.

Exactly.

The PP claimed half of Fox Mill is “absolutely closer to South Lakes”, which is just not true.

If Crossfield doesn't end up at the Western high school, it's because of RIO parents.

If Fox Mill is not going to Western, it’s because of Meren.

It’s that simple.

No it’s not. Space constraints likely mean either Fox Mill or Crossfield, not both. There’s no excuse for wasting more money on Western beyond that needed to operate with about 2000 seats. Some in western Fairfax are pigs who seem to think they are entitled to every last penny in the county.

Western Fairfax has long needed a community high school.

No one said the new school should take more than 2,000 kids.

As far as I know, there is no organized group lobbying for their group to be included in the boundary. The RIO parents are literally lobbying to be excluded.

Tell us how many seats Western would need to accommodate six full feeders, how much additional money that will cost, how many surplus seats would then exist in western Fairfax, and how many other capital projects would be delayed.

You’re getting the additional high school even though Herndon is sitting there with over 600 empty seats. It’s a done deal, so let’s set some reasonable boundaries for a school with enough kids to thrive. Just don’t keep implying FCPS needs to turn Western into a mega-HS just like Carson was a mega-AAP center for so many years.

Are you dense? No one said the new school should accomodate six elementary schools.

Crossfield has a long commute so it makes sense to assign them to Western. If it doesn’t happen, that would be because of the RIO campaign.

If Crossfield is not going to Western, Fox Mill has a case for Western. If that doesn’t happen, that would be because of Meren.

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Anonymous wrote:Herndon has nothing to do with Western. Neither Coates or McNair are going to be moved to Herndon, that would further increase the FARMs rates and create more issues. There is 0 reason to be discussing Herndon when talking about who is moving to Western. We don’t need that drama in this threaad.

As far as we’re concerned, we don’t know what will happen when it opens under what map it is given.

With Option C plus discovery, western would have 2207 students.

Minus Fox Mill Woods (who would still want to stay at South Lakes), the number of students at western would be 2,169.

Not bad if they build it to 2,500 students.

Just realise that opening a new high school creates a big ripple effect across the part of the county/ school district it will inevitably serve.

Pair that with a comprehensive boundary review program and other high schools will be touched.

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Anonymous wrote:Why won’t Reid include Crossfield or Fox Mill when they are closer to Western than their current Pyramid Schools?

Is she planning to leave Oak Hill at Chantilly Next?

Not necessarily true for Fox Mill. Half are absolutely closer to South Lakes.

Not true.

DP. Close enough to half. Half is equidistant and some are closer to South Lakes.

From Fox Mill ES to SLHS: 3.6 miles
From Fox Mill ES to Western (KAA): 3.3 miles

Fox Mill school itself is located on the eastern side of the Fox Mill boundary. There are a sizable number of houses (Monterey Estates, Bradley Farm, and a small portion of Fox Mill Estates) west of Route 286, and they are very close to Western.

I would say about 2/3 are roughly equidistant and 1/3 is much closer to Western. Very few are closer to South Lakes.

Not enough distance to make a difference. A mile difference at most. On the other hand, Crossfield kids are not even close to equidistant to Oakton.

+1. That’s going to be the problem with Fox Mills argument.

Most of Fox Mills is closer. That's all anyone has said. No one is claiming Fox Mills currently has a long bus ride. There's not a "problem" in anyone's "argument."

If Crossfield doesn't end up at Western, it's because of Crossfield parents who want to stay at Oakton, not because of FM.

The Crossfield parents who want to move, should email and speak up. They'd find support.

Exactly.

The PP claimed half of Fox Mill is “absolutely closer to South Lakes”, which is just not true.

If Crossfield doesn't end up at the Western high school, it's because of RIO parents.

If Fox Mill is not going to Western, it’s because of Meren.

It’s that simple.

No it’s not. Space constraints likely mean either Fox Mill or Crossfield, not both. There’s no excuse for wasting more money on Western beyond that needed to operate with about 2000 seats. Some in western Fairfax are pigs who seem to think they are entitled to every last penny in the county.

Western Fairfax has long needed a community high school.

No one said the new school should take more than 2,000 kids.

As far as I know, there is no organized group lobbying for their group to be included in the boundary. The RIO parents are literally lobbying to be excluded.

Tell us how many seats Western would need to accommodate six full feeders, how much additional money that will cost, how many surplus seats would then exist in western Fairfax, and how many other capital projects would be delayed.

You’re getting the additional high school even though Herndon is sitting there with over 600 empty seats. It’s a done deal, so let’s set some reasonable boundaries for a school with enough kids to thrive. Just don’t keep implying FCPS needs to turn Western into a mega-HS just like Carson was a mega-AAP center for so many years.

Are you dense? No one said the new school should accomodate six elementary schools.

Crossfield has a long commute so it makes sense to assign them to Western. If it doesn’t happen, that would be because of the RIO campaign.

If Crossfield is not going to Western, Fox Mill has a case for Western. If that doesn’t happen, that would be because of Meren.

Try to keep up. Some are definitely arguing for FCPS to expand Western enough to take Coates, McNair, Floris, Oak Hill, Fox Mill, AND Crossfield. They don’t care how much it would cost or how long it would delay other projects.

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Anonymous wrote:Herndon has nothing to do with Western. Neither Coates or McNair are going to be moved to Herndon, that would further increase the FARMs rates and create more issues. There is 0 reason to be discussing Herndon when talking about who is moving to Western. We don’t need that drama in this threaad.

As far as we’re concerned, we don’t know what will happen when it opens under what map it is given.

With Option C plus discovery, western would have 2207 students.

Minus Fox Mill Woods (who would still want to stay at South Lakes), the number of students at western would be 2,169.

Not bad if they build it to 2,500 students.

Just realise that opening a new high school creates a big ripple effect across the part of the county/ school district it will inevitably serve.

Pair that with a comprehensive boundary review program and other high schools will be touched.

No reason to expand to 2500 students when there are so many empty seats at Herndon.

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Anonymous wrote:Herndon has nothing to do with Western. Neither Coates or McNair are going to be moved to Herndon, that would further increase the FARMs rates and create more issues. There is 0 reason to be discussing Herndon when talking about who is moving to Western. We don’t need that drama in this threaad.

As far as we’re concerned, we don’t know what will happen when it opens under what map it is given.

With Option C plus discovery, western would have 2207 students.

Minus Fox Mill Woods (who would still want to stay at South Lakes), the number of students at western would be 2,169.

Not bad if they build it to 2,500 students.

Just realise that opening a new high school creates a big ripple effect across the part of the county/ school district it will inevitably serve.

Pair that with a comprehensive boundary review program and other high schools will be touched.

No reason to expand to 2500 students when there are so many empty seats at Herndon.

Stop mentioning Herndon.

Nobody cares about their 400+ empty seats.

[Anonymous]

Whoever this Herndon troll is needs to lay off!

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Anonymous wrote:Herndon has nothing to do with Western. Neither Coates or McNair are going to be moved to Herndon, that would further increase the FARMs rates and create more issues. There is 0 reason to be discussing Herndon when talking about who is moving to Western. We don’t need that drama in this threaad.

As far as we’re concerned, we don’t know what will happen when it opens under what map it is given.

With Option C plus discovery, western would have 2207 students.

Minus Fox Mill Woods (who would still want to stay at South Lakes), the number of students at western would be 2,169.

Not bad if they build it to 2,500 students.

Just realise that opening a new high school creates a big ripple effect across the part of the county/ school district it will inevitably serve.

Pair that with a comprehensive boundary review program and other high schools will be touched.

No reason to expand to 2500 students when there are so many empty seats at Herndon.

Stop mentioning Herndon.

Nobody cares about their 400+ empty seats.

It's 700 empty seats, not 400, and before FCPS plows tens of millions more into Western the School Board has a fiduciary duty to make appropriate use of those seats. We were told Western was basically ready to go only to later be told it can only handle 1000 kids. Expand it to 2000 so it's viable but beyond that no more money should be spent on Western when there are empty seats nearby to the north.

That's not trolling, it's common sense.

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Anonymous wrote:Herndon has nothing to do with Western. Neither Coates or McNair are going to be moved to Herndon, that would further increase the FARMs rates and create more issues. There is 0 reason to be discussing Herndon when talking about who is moving to Western. We don’t need that drama in this threaad.

As far as we’re concerned, we don’t know what will happen when it opens under what map it is given.

With Option C plus discovery, western would have 2207 students.

Minus Fox Mill Woods (who would still want to stay at South Lakes), the number of students at western would be 2,169.

Not bad if they build it to 2,500 students.

Just realise that opening a new high school creates a big ripple effect across the part of the county/ school district it will inevitably serve.

Pair that with a comprehensive boundary review program and other high schools will be touched.

No reason to expand to 2500 students when there are so many empty seats at Herndon.

Stop mentioning Herndon.

Nobody cares about their 400+ empty seats.

It's 700 empty seats, not 400, and before FCPS plows tens of millions more into Western the School Board has a fiduciary duty to make appropriate use of those seats. We were told Western was basically ready to go only to later be told it can only handle 1000 kids. Expand it to 2000 so it's viable but beyond that no more money should be spent on Western when there are empty seats nearby to the north.

That's not trolling, it's common sense.

There are lots of students to fit those empty seats to the North of Herndon. They are much closer than the kids slated for Western.

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Anonymous wrote:Herndon has nothing to do with Western. Neither Coates or McNair are going to be moved to Herndon, that would further increase the FARMs rates and create more issues. There is 0 reason to be discussing Herndon when talking about who is moving to Western. We don’t need that drama in this threaad.

As far as we’re concerned, we don’t know what will happen when it opens under what map it is given.

With Option C plus discovery, western would have 2207 students.

Minus Fox Mill Woods (who would still want to stay at South Lakes), the number of students at western would be 2,169.

Not bad if they build it to 2,500 students.

Just realise that opening a new high school creates a big ripple effect across the part of the county/ school district it will inevitably serve.

Pair that with a comprehensive boundary review program and other high schools will be touched.

No reason to expand to 2500 students when there are so many empty seats at Herndon.

Stop mentioning Herndon.

Nobody cares about their 400+ empty seats.

It's 700 empty seats, not 400, and before FCPS plows tens of millions more into Western the School Board has a fiduciary duty to make appropriate use of those seats. We were told Western was basically ready to go only to later be told it can only handle 1000 kids. Expand it to 2000 so it's viable but beyond that no more money should be spent on Western when there are empty seats nearby to the north.

That's not trolling, it's common sense.

And it has nothing to do with the Western Boundaries. Herndon is not in the picture at all. There is an entire topic to discuss the larger boundary issues. This topic is specific to Western because it is a new school and the boundaries won’t be set until June. There are many ways to fill those Herndon seats but none involve the Western HS.

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Anonymous wrote:Herndon has nothing to do with Western. Neither Coates or McNair are going to be moved to Herndon, that would further increase the FARMs rates and create more issues. There is 0 reason to be discussing Herndon when talking about who is moving to Western. We don’t need that drama in this threaad.

As far as we’re concerned, we don’t know what will happen when it opens under what map it is given.

With Option C plus discovery, western would have 2207 students.

Minus Fox Mill Woods (who would still want to stay at South Lakes), the number of students at western would be 2,169.

Not bad if they build it to 2,500 students.

Just realise that opening a new high school creates a big ripple effect across the part of the county/ school district it will inevitably serve.

Pair that with a comprehensive boundary review program and other high schools will be touched.

No reason to expand to 2500 students when there are so many empty seats at Herndon.

Stop mentioning Herndon.

Nobody cares about their 400+ empty seats.

It's 700 empty seats, not 400, and before FCPS plows tens of millions more into Western the School Board has a fiduciary duty to make appropriate use of those seats. We were told Western was basically ready to go only to later be told it can only handle 1000 kids. Expand it to 2000 so it's viable but beyond that no more money should be spent on Western when there are empty seats nearby to the north.

That's not trolling, it's common sense.

And it has nothing to do with the Western Boundaries. Herndon is not in the picture at all. There is an entire topic to discuss the larger boundary issues. This topic is specific to Western because it is a new school and the boundaries won’t be set until June. There are many ways to fill those Herndon seats but none involve the Western HS.

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Anonymous wrote:Herndon has nothing to do with Western. Neither Coates or McNair are going to be moved to Herndon, that would further increase the FARMs rates and create more issues. There is 0 reason to be discussing Herndon when talking about who is moving to Western. We don’t need that drama in this threaad.

As far as we’re concerned, we don’t know what will happen when it opens under what map it is given.

With Option C plus discovery, western would have 2207 students.

Minus Fox Mill Woods (who would still want to stay at South Lakes), the number of students at western would be 2,169.

Not bad if they build it to 2,500 students.

Just realise that opening a new high school creates a big ripple effect across the part of the county/ school district it will inevitably serve.

Pair that with a comprehensive boundary review program and other high schools will be touched.

No reason to expand to 2500 students when there are so many empty seats at Herndon.

Stop mentioning Herndon.

Nobody cares about their 400+ empty seats.

It's 700 empty seats, not 400, and before FCPS plows tens of millions more into Western the School Board has a fiduciary duty to make appropriate use of those seats. We were told Western was basically ready to go only to later be told it can only handle 1000 kids. Expand it to 2000 so it's viable but beyond that no more money should be spent on Western when there are empty seats nearby to the north.

That's not trolling, it's common sense.

What are you considering nearby? It seems you are unaware Herndon is a large area encompassing more than one zip code. Most children in the Western conversation would have their commute times substantially increased if they moved to HHS and therefore costing the county more money. Few people are advocating for the inclusion of six elementary schools. The county can make use of the seats with people that are not in many cases 5-7 miles away.

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Anonymous wrote:Herndon has nothing to do with Western. Neither Coates or McNair are going to be moved to Herndon, that would further increase the FARMs rates and create more issues. There is 0 reason to be discussing Herndon when talking about who is moving to Western. We don’t need that drama in this threaad.

As far as we’re concerned, we don’t know what will happen when it opens under what map it is given.

With Option C plus discovery, western would have 2207 students.

Minus Fox Mill Woods (who would still want to stay at South Lakes), the number of students at western would be 2,169.

Not bad if they build it to 2,500 students.

Just realise that opening a new high school creates a big ripple effect across the part of the county/ school district it will inevitably serve.

Pair that with a comprehensive boundary review program and other high schools will be touched.

No reason to expand to 2500 students when there are so many empty seats at Herndon.

Stop mentioning Herndon.

Nobody cares about their 400+ empty seats.

It's 700 empty seats, not 400, and before FCPS plows tens of millions more into Western the School Board has a fiduciary duty to make appropriate use of those seats. We were told Western was basically ready to go only to later be told it can only handle 1000 kids. Expand it to 2000 so it's viable but beyond that no more money should be spent on Western when there are empty seats nearby to the north.

That's not trolling, it's common sense.

What are you considering nearby? It seems you are unaware Herndon is a large area encompassing more than one zip code. Most children in the Western conversation would have their commute times substantially increased if they moved to HHS and therefore costing the county more money. Few people are advocating for the inclusion of six elementary schools. The county can make use of the seats with people that are not in many cases 5-7 miles away.

You mean like the ones that are 2 miles from Herndon and 12 -14 miles from Langley?

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Anonymous wrote:Herndon has nothing to do with Western. Neither Coates or McNair are going to be moved to Herndon, that would further increase the FARMs rates and create more issues. There is 0 reason to be discussing Herndon when talking about who is moving to Western. We don’t need that drama in this threaad.

It won't be relevant for another 5 years, when it's time for the next comprehensive boundary review.