Boundary Review Meetings

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unrelated to boundaries, but it looks like Sangster was just rated the #1 Elementary School in Fairfax County and #2 in all of VA.

Sangster darn well better be rated as one of the best. They have the lowest ELL population in the county, even less than Great Falls ES, and equally low FARMs. Anything less than peak SOL scores would be a shameful result.

They're also the local AAP center for several elementaries so of course their scores are going to be higher.

Agree.

The 3 middle schools they take rhe top scoring kids from, CR, HV and OH all still score quite high, even with the highest scorers transferring to Sangster.

All 4 of those schools would rank fairly equally if one wasn't a center school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unrelated to boundaries, but it looks like Sangster was just rated the #1 Elementary School in Fairfax County and #2 in all of VA.

Sangster darn well better be rated as one of the best. They have the lowest ELL population in the county, even less than Great Falls ES, and equally low FARMs. Anything less than peak SOL scores would be a shameful result.

Sangster is actually one of the wealthiest elementary schools in FCPS


Ooh, what if to keep that Sangster neighborhood at WSHS, they move some Orange Hunt kids to Rolling Valley, and move that Sangster neighborhood into Orange Hunt Elementary,?

They keep saying that their Sangster classmates who attend Lake Braddock are not their community, that the West Springfield schools and kids are their community.

Moving them out of Sangster would solve all those issues, by moving them away from the LB zoned students who are not their community, and into a WSHS zoned elementary school instead. The townhomes across from Sangster and the Reservation houses could stay at Sangster and LB, but the other half of that neighborhood could all move away from Sangster, since they don't feel a connection to that community the way they feel a connection to the WSHS neighborhoods and students

That would fix the Sangster split feeder and move that neighborhood away from Sangster and over to their friends and community.

[Anonymous]

We are a Rolling Valley family and have adored our school, but I bet there would be some pushback from Orange Hunt families if they got moved to our "4/10 on great schools" school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unrelated to boundaries, but it looks like Sangster was just rated the #1 Elementary School in Fairfax County and #2 in all of VA.

Sangster darn well better be rated as one of the best. They have the lowest ELL population in the county, even less than Great Falls ES, and equally low FARMs. Anything less than peak SOL scores would be a shameful result.

Sangster is actually one of the wealthiest elementary schools in FCPS


Ooh, what if to keep that Sangster neighborhood at WSHS, they move some Orange Hunt kids to Rolling Valley, and move that Sangster neighborhood into Orange Hunt Elementary,?

They keep saying that their Sangster classmates who attend Lake Braddock are not their community, that the West Springfield schools and kids are their community.

Moving them out of Sangster would solve all those issues, by moving them away from the LB zoned students who are not their community, and into a WSHS zoned elementary school instead. The townhomes across from Sangster and the Reservation houses could stay at Sangster and LB, but the other half of that neighborhood could all move away from Sangster, since they don't feel a connection to that community the way they feel a connection to the WSHS neighborhoods and students

That would fix the Sangster split feeder and move that neighborhood away from Sangster and over to their friends and community.

I’m in that neighborhood and would happily move to OH. The problem is we are walkers to Sangster and would bussed to oh which doesn’t help their transportation argument and OH is over crowded even with that small switch. Another option would be move the townhouses near the lake, the homes on the left side of the parkway to Sangster. And move some of the further away homes to Halley (across 123) and cherry run (near lee chapel). The elem boundaries honestly need a drastic shift - but it would cause an uproar

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unrelated to boundaries, but it looks like Sangster was just rated the #1 Elementary School in Fairfax County and #2 in all of VA.

Sangster darn well better be rated as one of the best. They have the lowest ELL population in the county, even less than Great Falls ES, and equally low FARMs. Anything less than peak SOL scores would be a shameful result.

Sangster is actually one of the wealthiest elementary schools in FCPS


Ooh, what if to keep that Sangster neighborhood at WSHS, they move some Orange Hunt kids to Rolling Valley, and move that Sangster neighborhood into Orange Hunt Elementary,?

They keep saying that their Sangster classmates who attend Lake Braddock are not their community, that the West Springfield schools and kids are their community.

Moving them out of Sangster would solve all those issues, by moving them away from the LB zoned students who are not their community, and into a WSHS zoned elementary school instead. The townhomes across from Sangster and the Reservation houses could stay at Sangster and LB, but the other half of that neighborhood could all move away from Sangster, since they don't feel a connection to that community the way they feel a connection to the WSHS neighborhoods and students

That would fix the Sangster split feeder and move that neighborhood away from Sangster and over to their friends and community.

I think you are talking about one or two vocal posters.
Also not sure why people spend hours on here coming up with their own scenarios

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unrelated to boundaries, but it looks like Sangster was just rated the #1 Elementary School in Fairfax County and #2 in all of VA.

Sangster darn well better be rated as one of the best. They have the lowest ELL population in the county, even less than Great Falls ES, and equally low FARMs. Anything less than peak SOL scores would be a shameful result.

Sangster is actually one of the wealthiest elementary schools in FCPS


Ooh, what if to keep that Sangster neighborhood at WSHS, they move some Orange Hunt kids to Rolling Valley, and move that Sangster neighborhood into Orange Hunt Elementary,?

They keep saying that their Sangster classmates who attend Lake Braddock are not their community, that the West Springfield schools and kids are their community.

Moving them out of Sangster would solve all those issues, by moving them away from the LB zoned students who are not their community, and into a WSHS zoned elementary school instead. The townhomes across from Sangster and the Reservation houses could stay at Sangster and LB, but the other half of that neighborhood could all move away from Sangster, since they don't feel a connection to that community the way they feel a connection to the WSHS neighborhoods and students

That would fix the Sangster split feeder and move that neighborhood away from Sangster and over to their friends and community.

I think you are talking about one or two vocal posters.
Also not sure why people spend hours on here coming up with their own scenarios

What is even more curious is those that join threads to tell others to stop talking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unrelated to boundaries, but it looks like Sangster was just rated the #1 Elementary School in Fairfax County and #2 in all of VA.

Sangster darn well better be rated as one of the best. They have the lowest ELL population in the county, even less than Great Falls ES, and equally low FARMs. Anything less than peak SOL scores would be a shameful result.

Sangster is actually one of the wealthiest elementary schools in FCPS


Ooh, what if to keep that Sangster neighborhood at WSHS, they move some Orange Hunt kids to Rolling Valley, and move that Sangster neighborhood into Orange Hunt Elementary,?

They keep saying that their Sangster classmates who attend Lake Braddock are not their community, that the West Springfield schools and kids are their community.

Moving them out of Sangster would solve all those issues, by moving them away from the LB zoned students who are not their community, and into a WSHS zoned elementary school instead. The townhomes across from Sangster and the Reservation houses could stay at Sangster and LB, but the other half of that neighborhood could all move away from Sangster, since they don't feel a connection to that community the way they feel a connection to the WSHS neighborhoods and students

That would fix the Sangster split feeder and move that neighborhood away from Sangster and over to their friends and community.

I think you are talking about one or two vocal posters.
Also not sure why people spend hours on here coming up with their own scenarios

Because it is better to have a solution than just whine about a problem. They probably aren’t spending hours anyway. If you drive these roads everyday it can be fairly easy to think about it.

[Anonymous]

Are the other Sangster families offended, puzzled or amused by the whole the Sangster kids who go to Lake Braddock aren't our community argument?

There is definitely talk in surrounding communities about that angle, not about the kids at Irving but the families without kids at Irving.

One LB parent spoke up 2 meetings ago about that argument, and she did seem a bit offended and a little befuddled.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are the other Sangster families offended, puzzled or amused by the whole the Sangster kids who go to Lake Braddock aren't our community argument?

There is definitely talk in surrounding communities about that angle, not about the kids at Irving but the families without kids at Irving.

One LB parent spoke up 2 meetings ago about that argument, and she did seem a bit offended and a little befuddled.

Why would you consider kids who went to school with your kid for 6+ years to be part of your community? One kid spoke at the Irving meeting about how he desperately didn't want to lose all of the new friends he's met (in one quarter of school) this year at Irving and pleaded to stay there instead of being sent to LBSS, where his former Sangster classmates of seven years went.

[Anonymous]

Madison/McLean meeting taken over early by Madison parents getting assurances from Reid they won't be moved to Marshall and some Marshall parents at Wolftrap worried they won't be moved to Madison as proposed in Scenario 4.

Kilmer and Marshall will not emerge stronger from this process.

[Anonymous]

The neighborhoods in question did go to Orange hunt decades ago. Sangster was initially slated to be built across the parkway. And the parkway was to be the boundary. But the land in Orange hunt estates was ready and bigger. The deal/agreement was that the neighborhoods surrounding Sangster would still go to WSHS as they always had. I understand this was decades ago, but it’s clear that they have always had this conversation and desire to stay together. The same discussion happened 20 years ago when they tried to switch boundaries

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The neighborhoods in question did go to Orange hunt decades ago. Sangster was initially slated to be built across the parkway. And the parkway was to be the boundary. But the land in Orange hunt estates was ready and bigger. The deal/agreement was that the neighborhoods surrounding Sangster would still go to WSHS as they always had. I understand this was decades ago, but it’s clear that they have always had this conversation and desire to stay together. The same discussion happened 20 years ago when they tried to switch boundaries

Non-binding agreements made more than 50 years ago with now defunct developers are hardly a solid basis for permanent boundaries. No one else in the county gets that.

[Anonymous]

No one is using that argument. I’m just giving some historical perspective as someone who grew up here and how they have always seen themselves as one community.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are the other Sangster families offended, puzzled or amused by the whole the Sangster kids who go to Lake Braddock aren't our community argument?

There is definitely talk in surrounding communities about that angle, not about the kids at Irving but the families without kids at Irving.

One LB parent spoke up 2 meetings ago about that argument, and she did seem a bit offended and a little befuddled.

Why would you consider kids who went to school with your kid for 6+ years to be part of your community? One kid spoke at the Irving meeting about how he desperately didn't want to lose all of the new friends he's met (in one quarter of school) this year at Irving and pleaded to stay there instead of being sent to LBSS, where his former Sangster classmates of seven years went.

Everyone there agreed heartily with the Irving Sangster kids, whether they think the Sangster split feeder should go to WSHS or to LBSS.

There was not one person in the room that was not part of fcps leadership who disagreed with those Irving kids.

But the Sangster people wifh younger kids repeatedly saying that their Sangster classmates are not their community, were a little bit much and quite a bit surprising. It felt very dismissive of all their classmates at Sangster.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The neighborhoods in question did go to Orange hunt decades ago. Sangster was initially slated to be built across the parkway. And the parkway was to be the boundary. But the land in Orange hunt estates was ready and bigger. The deal/agreement was that the neighborhoods surrounding Sangster would still go to WSHS as they always had. I understand this was decades ago, but it’s clear that they have always had this conversation and desire to stay together. The same discussion happened 20 years ago when they tried to switch boundaries

Non-binding agreements made more than 50 years ago with now defunct developers are hardly a solid basis for permanent boundaries. No one else in the county gets that.

I agree.