GDS Student Newspaper posts about the horrible incident

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No parent that we know despises Russell. We think he's been a strong leader of the school.

Anonymous wrote:GDS parent here.

No parent that we know despises Russell. We think he's been a strong leader of the school.


Strong leader? The guy was intent on sweeping all this under the rug and had the parents never spoken up and asked for help no one would have ever even been aware this even happened. It would have been buried in the dungeons of GDS where they would have preferred it.

Do you not see the problem? They are playing this PR caring defense nonsense after the fact, they never had intention to play offensive. They never had any proactive intentions to actually do what their PR generated letter says. They had plenty of opportunities to alert people last year, summer, fall. MPD does not tell people that they can not talk about a crime because it will interfere with an investigation, that is complete garbage coverup. Just imagine, the police telling Ms. Guthrie, we the police want you to not alert anyone about the crime of your mother because it not allow us to do an investigation and figure out the criminals.  If this pathetic letter Russel sent was genuine it would have been sent in the spring 2025, Summer 20025 latest.

Russell was betting it would blow over with the student leaving and all would be forgiven. He was betting with the well-being of your child. So wakeup a little. 

The guy is basically a scammer and he is in charge of the school who is educating your kid and others. He is playing the Scammer Fake News game. This is 10x worse than anything Donald Trump is doing because it is with kids.  This is how people learn to become fraudsters when they grow up. 


DP. I don’t think there is any obligation to alert the entire school of a false allegation. If anything that threatens the privacy of the child who made the allegation.



It is wrong to say false allegation here. It is still an allegation.


Fine. Unsubstantiated allegation. Same result. Why would the school email about that?



The investigation seemed minimal. Why not ask anyone with info to come forward? Alert the school community and ask anyone who knows anything to help out. Otherwise, it seems like a pretty weak investigation. I would say without a public request like this, they really didn’t do much at all.


How many crime investigations involve a general ask to the community at large? Not many.


It happens all the time. Savannah Guthrie's mom is one example.
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And people wonder why sexual assault is so devastatingly universal and grossly under reported. The victim's testimony isn't counted as 'evidence' by half the posters here.
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I also have an 11 year old boy and can’t imagine him making this up or carrying on for this long if it wasn’t true. Something clearly happened there. I can see why any parent at the school would be worried about the alleged perps still being at the school.
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Anonymous wrote:If I were a GDS parent I would support the school in denying any wrongdoing in order to h avoid any liability and avoid paying the family compensation for the incident. Specially if there is no hard evidence.


You have it backwards. If there were any hint of this actually having happened the school would have paid (its insurance actually) asap. The blunt fact is that this attack was fabricated by the child and then magnified by the parent/s. There are so many examples of this (Washington Hebrew for one). The rape never happened - this is obvious.



You really don’t know enough to conclude that. You just don’t want to believe the victim.


I think it’s pretty clear. And no, I don’t think an abstraction like “believe victims” should be used to assess situations like this. It sounds like they believed the victim to an appropriate degree (ie open an investigation) and found nothing credible. Purported victims don’t have some kind of never-ending presumption of credibility in all cases.


I agree with that, but a the same time the school doesn’t seem to have much empathy with the incident or intentions to reinforce protocol to prevent a similar scenario in the future. Family is wrong school is right.


The incident being a false allegation? Yes I imagine the school is now going to install cameras to protect itself.



Would you stop gaslighting? The victim was a small child.


The child clearly has some needs but no reason to believe anything like a rape happened at GDS.



You are in no position to conclude that. Shame on you.


Sure I am. I am in much more of a position to conclude that than you are that something actually happened based on no more than your belief that all alleged victims are truthful.

Now can I believe GDS may have mishandled the allegation, communications with the school community, not have taken every prevention, may need to supervise bathrooms better? Sure of course.


We already have the conclusion from the MPD and the independent investigator. The allegation seems credible but there is a lack of evidence to move forward. This is easily explained by the timeline.


I think you misunderstand what “credible” means here. “Credible” just means there was enough to investigate - ie that the child didn’t say something like “an alien came in a UFO and did it.” The subsequent lack of evidence indicates it never actually happened.


What you are insinuating is horrible. So unless someone films the rape, it did not happen? Are you serious? Shame on you!
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GDS is negligent for

1.failure to properly have security personnel in the hall actually doing their job
2.failure to properly have security cameras at key entrances. Not having a camera pointed at the bathroom entrance where most bad things can happen is completely negligent. If there is one place you need to have a camera pointed at it is at the bathroom entrances because that's where most misdeeds happen and you need to have eyes on that at all times. They are selling an overpriced education and then they cheap out on cameras, unbelievable, no excuses for that.
3. failure to save footage 6 months plus of camera video. They should have saved a longer time frame, an unforgivable failure. Sometimes crime takes longer to surface after it is done.
4. failure to make any effort to retrieve lost footage from any camera in that area. It can be done if you try hard enough and know who to ask for help. Just imagine if they would have given up so easily as GDS did in the current Guthrie case and just accepted that there was no video evidence.

GDS, there was no evidence because you failed to get good camera placement, secure what footage you took, or try everything in your power to retrieve past footage. You add that with the lazy guys at DC MPD that don't want to work a case with all the best evidence and you have nightmares like this where you get this slimeball Head play fake new GDS was the source of all the failures and negligence. Even their own security report audit showed they lack things that they need to address, they paid someone to point out there own failures and then made it public so they can I guess tell everyone how they failed.
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Anonymous wrote:GDS parent here.

No parent that we know despises Russell. We think he's been a strong leader of the school.

Anonymous wrote:GDS parent here.

No parent that we know despises Russell. We think he's been a strong leader of the school.


Strong leader? The guy was intent on sweeping all this under the rug and had the parents never spoken up and asked for help no one would have ever even been aware this even happened. It would have been buried in the dungeons of GDS where they would have preferred it.

Do you not see the problem? They are playing this PR caring defense nonsense after the fact, they never had intention to play offensive. They never had any proactive intentions to actually do what their PR generated letter says. They had plenty of opportunities to alert people last year, summer, fall. MPD does not tell people that they can not talk about a crime because it will interfere with an investigation, that is complete garbage coverup. Just imagine, the police telling Ms. Guthrie, we the police want you to not alert anyone about the crime of your mother because it not allow us to do an investigation and figure out the criminals.  If this pathetic letter Russel sent was genuine it would have been sent in the spring 2025, Summer 20025 latest.

Russell was betting it would blow over with the student leaving and all would be forgiven. He was betting with the well-being of your child. So wakeup a little. 

The guy is basically a scammer and he is in charge of the school who is educating your kid and others. He is playing the Scammer Fake News game. This is 10x worse than anything Donald Trump is doing because it is with kids.  This is how people learn to become fraudsters when they grow up. 


DP. I don’t think there is any obligation to alert the entire school of a false allegation. If anything that threatens the privacy of the child who made the allegation.



It is wrong to say false allegation here. It is still an allegation.


Fine. Unsubstantiated allegation. Same result. Why would the school email about that?



The investigation seemed minimal. Why not ask anyone with info to come forward? Alert the school community and ask anyone who knows anything to help out. Otherwise, it seems like a pretty weak investigation. I would say without a public request like this, they really didn’t do much at all.


How many crime investigations involve a general ask to the community at large? Not many.


Are you not signed up for DC Alerts? I get requests to the general public regularly.


When they have an actual suspect or someone got shot!
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Anonymous wrote:I also have an 11 year old boy and can’t imagine him making this up or carrying on for this long if it wasn’t true. Something clearly happened there. I can see why any parent at the school would be worried about the alleged perps still being at the school.


Seriously. An 11 year old boy claiming that they were anally raped is not something that would normally be in the realm of false accusation.

The social stigma alone, even at GDS, would make such a claim unlikely to be 100% false. Something happened.

Whether there is criminal proof of what happened, at a school in which the potential perpetrators are likely connected and capable of fighting back, is a completely different matter.
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Anonymous wrote:If I were a GDS parent I would support the school in denying any wrongdoing in order to h avoid any liability and avoid paying the family compensation for the incident. Specially if there is no hard evidence.


You have it backwards. If there were any hint of this actually having happened the school would have paid (its insurance actually) asap. The blunt fact is that this attack was fabricated by the child and then magnified by the parent/s. There are so many examples of this (Washington Hebrew for one). The rape never happened - this is obvious.



You really don’t know enough to conclude that. You just don’t want to believe the victim.


I think it’s pretty clear. And no, I don’t think an abstraction like “believe victims” should be used to assess situations like this. It sounds like they believed the victim to an appropriate degree (ie open an investigation) and found nothing credible. Purported victims don’t have some kind of never-ending presumption of credibility in all cases.


I agree with that, but a the same time the school doesn’t seem to have much empathy with the incident or intentions to reinforce protocol to prevent a similar scenario in the future. Family is wrong school is right.


The incident being a false allegation? Yes I imagine the school is now going to install cameras to protect itself.



Would you stop gaslighting? The victim was a small child.


The child clearly has some needs but no reason to believe anything like a rape happened at GDS.



You are in no position to conclude that. Shame on you.


Sure I am. I am in much more of a position to conclude that than you are that something actually happened based on no more than your belief that all alleged victims are truthful.

Now can I believe GDS may have mishandled the allegation, communications with the school community, not have taken every prevention, may need to supervise bathrooms better? Sure of course.


We already have the conclusion from the MPD and the independent investigator. The allegation seems credible but there is a lack of evidence to move forward. This is easily explained by the timeline.


I think you misunderstand what “credible” means here. “Credible” just means there was enough to investigate - ie that the child didn’t say something like “an alien came in a UFO and did it.” The subsequent lack of evidence indicates it never actually happened.


What you are insinuating is horrible. So unless someone films the rape, it did not happen? Are you serious? Shame on you!


+1000
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I am not part of the school community, but as an administrator at another independent school I want to say that it is critical that schools response to these kinds of allegations is to refer them to outside authorities and investigators, and then to step back and let those authorities investigate.

It has been shown over and over that schools and colleges who investigate bring bias to that investigation.

GDS might or might not have done the right thing here, but the decision to let MPD take the lead is the right one.
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Anonymous wrote:I also have an 11 year old boy and can’t imagine him making this up or carrying on for this long if it wasn’t true. Something clearly happened there. I can see why any parent at the school would be worried about the alleged perps still being at the school.


Seriously. An 11 year old boy claiming that they were anally raped is not something that would normally be in the realm of false accusation.

The social stigma alone, even at GDS, would make such a claim unlikely to be 100% false. Something happened.

Whether there is criminal proof of what happened, at a school in which the potential perpetrators are likely connected and capable of fighting back, is a completely different matter.


Nobody knows if it was the kid or the parent who made the allegation. And false allegations happen. They really do.

If there was any hint this actually happened the school would have been all over it. I just don’t for a second believe that a school would sweep a rape during school of an 11 year old under the rug.
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Anonymous wrote:If I were a GDS parent I would support the school in denying any wrongdoing in order to h avoid any liability and avoid paying the family compensation for the incident. Specially if there is no hard evidence.


You have it backwards. If there were any hint of this actually having happened the school would have paid (its insurance actually) asap. The blunt fact is that this attack was fabricated by the child and then magnified by the parent/s. There are so many examples of this (Washington Hebrew for one). The rape never happened - this is obvious.



You really don’t know enough to conclude that. You just don’t want to believe the victim.


I think it’s pretty clear. And no, I don’t think an abstraction like “believe victims” should be used to assess situations like this. It sounds like they believed the victim to an appropriate degree (ie open an investigation) and found nothing credible. Purported victims don’t have some kind of never-ending presumption of credibility in all cases.


I agree with that, but a the same time the school doesn’t seem to have much empathy with the incident or intentions to reinforce protocol to prevent a similar scenario in the future. Family is wrong school is right.


The incident being a false allegation? Yes I imagine the school is now going to install cameras to protect itself.



Would you stop gaslighting? The victim was a small child.


The child clearly has some needs but no reason to believe anything like a rape happened at GDS.



You are in no position to conclude that. Shame on you.


Sure I am. I am in much more of a position to conclude that than you are that something actually happened based on no more than your belief that all alleged victims are truthful.

Now can I believe GDS may have mishandled the allegation, communications with the school community, not have taken every prevention, may need to supervise bathrooms better? Sure of course.


We already have the conclusion from the MPD and the independent investigator. The allegation seems credible but there is a lack of evidence to move forward. This is easily explained by the timeline.


I think you misunderstand what “credible” means here. “Credible” just means there was enough to investigate - ie that the child didn’t say something like “an alien came in a UFO and did it.” The subsequent lack of evidence indicates it never actually happened.


What you are insinuating is horrible. So unless someone films the rape, it did not happen? Are you serious? Shame on you!


+1000


You sound like you want this to be true, which is it’s own kind of twisted ness.
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Anonymous wrote:If I were a GDS parent I would support the school in denying any wrongdoing in order to h avoid any liability and avoid paying the family compensation for the incident. Specially if there is no hard evidence.


You have it backwards. If there were any hint of this actually having happened the school would have paid (its insurance actually) asap. The blunt fact is that this attack was fabricated by the child and then magnified by the parent/s. There are so many examples of this (Washington Hebrew for one). The rape never happened - this is obvious.



You really don’t know enough to conclude that. You just don’t want to believe the victim.


I think it’s pretty clear. And no, I don’t think an abstraction like “believe victims” should be used to assess situations like this. It sounds like they believed the victim to an appropriate degree (ie open an investigation) and found nothing credible. Purported victims don’t have some kind of never-ending presumption of credibility in all cases.


I agree with that, but a the same time the school doesn’t seem to have much empathy with the incident or intentions to reinforce protocol to prevent a similar scenario in the future. Family is wrong school is right.


The incident being a false allegation? Yes I imagine the school is now going to install cameras to protect itself.



Would you stop gaslighting? The victim was a small child.


The child clearly has some needs but no reason to believe anything like a rape happened at GDS.



You are in no position to conclude that. Shame on you.


Sure I am. I am in much more of a position to conclude that than you are that something actually happened based on no more than your belief that all alleged victims are truthful.

Now can I believe GDS may have mishandled the allegation, communications with the school community, not have taken every prevention, may need to supervise bathrooms better? Sure of course.


We already have the conclusion from the MPD and the independent investigator. The allegation seems credible but there is a lack of evidence to move forward. This is easily explained by the timeline.


I think you misunderstand what “credible” means here. “Credible” just means there was enough to investigate - ie that the child didn’t say something like “an alien came in a UFO and did it.” The subsequent lack of evidence indicates it never actually happened.


What you are insinuating is horrible. So unless someone films the rape, it did not happen? Are you serious? Shame on you!


+1000


You sound like you want this to be true, which is it’s own kind of twisted ness.


No, I simply believe a traumatized 11 year old and his family. You stick with the rapists
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Anonymous wrote:Wow you seem unhinged. Instead of talking to the top 40 universities you might try exercise, therapy, talking to friends. Curious what the university presidents had to say about a random school in DC and your kids experience there.


Wow, you sound like Russell himself. Everyone I spoke with agreed that it is risky to take people from a random school in DC that sells it as the top school in the region. Who wouldn't want to roll the dice and infect their communities with students groomed in a culture of bullying by bullies raised by self absorbed parents like yourself allowed to flourish in the GDS breeding ground. A place where two unaccounted rapists get to be groomed because of the negligence of the administration. It's parents like you that enabled this culture and teach your kid to be a bully with th name calling others. We get it, you have no problem and put education and money before your child's wellbeing and have no problem rolling the dice at GDS.
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So what happens next? Assuming no new information is brought forward the school just hopes this goes away? Case closed? What a black cloud to hang over a whole school.
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Anonymous wrote:If I were a GDS parent I would support the school in denying any wrongdoing in order to h avoid any liability and avoid paying the family compensation for the incident. Specially if there is no hard evidence.


You have it backwards. If there were any hint of this actually having happened the school would have paid (its insurance actually) asap. The blunt fact is that this attack was fabricated by the child and then magnified by the parent/s. There are so many examples of this (Washington Hebrew for one). The rape never happened - this is obvious.



You really don’t know enough to conclude that. You just don’t want to believe the victim.


I think it’s pretty clear. And no, I don’t think an abstraction like “believe victims” should be used to assess situations like this. It sounds like they believed the victim to an appropriate degree (ie open an investigation) and found nothing credible. Purported victims don’t have some kind of never-ending presumption of credibility in all cases.


I agree with that, but a the same time the school doesn’t seem to have much empathy with the incident or intentions to reinforce protocol to prevent a similar scenario in the future. Family is wrong school is right.


The incident being a false allegation? Yes I imagine the school is now going to install cameras to protect itself.



Would you stop gaslighting? The victim was a small child.


The child clearly has some needs but no reason to believe anything like a rape happened at GDS.



You are in no position to conclude that. Shame on you.


Sure I am. I am in much more of a position to conclude that than you are that something actually happened based on no more than your belief that all alleged victims are truthful.

Now can I believe GDS may have mishandled the allegation, communications with the school community, not have taken every prevention, may need to supervise bathrooms better? Sure of course.


We already have the conclusion from the MPD and the independent investigator. The allegation seems credible but there is a lack of evidence to move forward. This is easily explained by the timeline.


I think you misunderstand what “credible” means here. “Credible” just means there was enough to investigate - ie that the child didn’t say something like “an alien came in a UFO and did it.” The subsequent lack of evidence indicates it never actually happened.


What you are insinuating is horrible. So unless someone films the rape, it did not happen? Are you serious? Shame on you!


+1000


You sound like you want this to be true, which is it’s own kind of twisted ness.


No, I simply believe a traumatized 11 year old and his family. You stick with the rapists


Do you realize how dumb it sounds to say that your criteria for believing something is that somebody said it?
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