GDS Student Newspaper posts about the horrible incident

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In typical fashion for this forum, the conversation has devolved into vitriol among anonymous people mostly because of semantics. I believe all of us can agree that this is a horrible story on many levels. The family has every reason to believe this happened, and it is a trauma no child or parent should have to endure. I can understand their anger with the school and disappointment with the police. Without evidence, the police cannot identify a suspect. And due to privacy laws the school could not publicize this or expel a perpetrator. And yes, it’s horrible that- assuming this happened- the perpetrators are still there.

The school could expel the perpetrators (if they exist). Not sure why you say they couldn’t. Private schools expel kids all the time and the notion that GDS has identified perpetrators and done nothing just defies belief. If it is a more complicated situation (like the child was being bullied and the kids followed him into the bathroom but dispute what actually happened) then everyone in the school would know who the suspects are.

You misunderstood me and maybe I didn’t state mysely clearly. I said they couldn’t expel a perpetrator only because I didn’t think they had any idea who the alleged perpetrators were but are you telling me you think GDS does know who the alleged perpetrators are? Listen, if there are suspects and those suspects have been interviewed by police and administration and no charges or expulsion have come, there is clearly a lot that nobody here can possibly understand just through reading this thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:GDS parent here.

No parent that we know despises Russell. We think he's been a strong leader of the school.

Anonymous wrote:GDS parent here.

No parent that we know despises Russell. We think he's been a strong leader of the school.

Strong leader? The guy was intent on sweeping all this under the rug and had the parents never spoken up and asked for help no one would have ever even been aware this even happened. It would have been buried in the dungeons of GDS where they would have preferred it.

Do you not see the problem? They are playing this PR caring defense nonsense after the fact, they never had intention to play offensive. They never had any proactive intentions to actually do what their PR generated letter says. They had plenty of opportunities to alert people last year, summer, fall. MPD does not tell people that they can not talk about a crime because it will interfere with an investigation, that is complete garbage coverup. Just imagine, the police telling Ms. Guthrie, we the police want you to not alert anyone about the crime of your mother because it not allow us to do an investigation and figure out the criminals.  If this pathetic letter Russel sent was genuine it would have been sent in the spring 2025, Summer 20025 latest.

Russell was betting it would blow over with the student leaving and all would be forgiven. He was betting with the well-being of your child. So wakeup a little. 

The guy is basically a scammer and he is in charge of the school who is educating your kid and others. He is playing the Scammer Fake News game. This is 10x worse than anything Donald Trump is doing because it is with kids.  This is how people learn to become fraudsters when they grow up. 

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Something may or may not have happened to this child. Generally, I would say you believe a kid when they tell you something happens. But The school, police, investigators, etc. need some evidence to accuse someone and it seems pretty clear there is no evidence. Whether that’s because the victim waited too long and video footage was erased or the incident did not happen as the child said, the result is the same. As a parent with multiple kids in the school, I think the school handled this as they should have and feel that the family choosing to send out this email was inappropriate.

But they have to PURSUE evidence and it’s pretty clear they interviewed no students or faculty in their “investigation”. You can in good faith say there’s no evidence when you don’t look for it under the guise of confidentiality.

Is that clear? I don’t think it is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Something may or may not have happened to this child. Generally, I would say you believe a kid when they tell you something happens. But The school, police, investigators, etc. need some evidence to accuse someone and it seems pretty clear there is no evidence. Whether that’s because the victim waited too long and video footage was erased or the incident did not happen as the child said, the result is the same. As a parent with multiple kids in the school, I think the school handled this as they should have and feel that the family choosing to send out this email was inappropriate.

But they have to PURSUE evidence and it’s pretty clear they interviewed no students or faculty in their “investigation”. You can in good faith say there’s no evidence when you don’t look for it under the guise of confidentiality.

Why do you think they didn’t talk to faculty? What evidence do you have to suggest that is the case? Do you honestly believe that the school, MPD and a third party investigator just sat on their hand and did nothing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In typical fashion for this forum, the conversation has devolved into vitriol among anonymous people mostly because of semantics. I believe all of us can agree that this is a horrible story on many levels. The family has every reason to believe this happened, and it is a trauma no child or parent should have to endure. I can understand their anger with the school and disappointment with the police. Without evidence, the police cannot identify a suspect. And due to privacy laws the school could not publicize this or expel a perpetrator. And yes, it’s horrible that- assuming this happened- the perpetrators are still there.

The school could expel the perpetrators (if they exist). Not sure why you say they couldn’t. Private schools expel kids all the time and the notion that GDS has identified perpetrators and done nothing just defies belief. If it is a more complicated situation (like the child was being bullied and the kids followed him into the bathroom but dispute what actually happened) then everyone in the school would know who the suspects are.

You misunderstood me and maybe I didn’t state mysely clearly. I said they couldn’t expel a perpetrator only because I didn’t think they had any idea who the alleged perpetrators were but are you telling me you think GDS does know who the alleged perpetrators are? Listen, if there are suspects and those suspects have been interviewed by police and administration and no charges or expulsion have come, there is clearly a lot that nobody here can possibly understand just through reading this thread.

All I’m saying is that if there were any suspects, everyone would know about it, and the school would have taken some kind of action. The fact that there are no suspects speaks for itself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:GDS parent here.

No parent that we know despises Russell. We think he's been a strong leader of the school.

Anonymous wrote:GDS parent here.

No parent that we know despises Russell. We think he's been a strong leader of the school.

Strong leader? The guy was intent on sweeping all this under the rug and had the parents never spoken up and asked for help no one would have ever even been aware this even happened. It would have been buried in the dungeons of GDS where they would have preferred it.

Do you not see the problem? They are playing this PR caring defense nonsense after the fact, they never had intention to play offensive. They never had any proactive intentions to actually do what their PR generated letter says. They had plenty of opportunities to alert people last year, summer, fall. MPD does not tell people that they can not talk about a crime because it will interfere with an investigation, that is complete garbage coverup. Just imagine, the police telling Ms. Guthrie, we the police want you to not alert anyone about the crime of your mother because it not allow us to do an investigation and figure out the criminals.  If this pathetic letter Russel sent was genuine it would have been sent in the spring 2025, Summer 20025 latest.

Russell was betting it would blow over with the student leaving and all would be forgiven. He was betting with the well-being of your child. So wakeup a little. 

The guy is basically a scammer and he is in charge of the school who is educating your kid and others. He is playing the Scammer Fake News game. This is 10x worse than anything Donald Trump is doing because it is with kids.  This is how people learn to become fraudsters when they grow up. 

DP. I don’t think there is any obligation to alert the entire school of a false allegation. If anything that threatens the privacy of the child who made the allegation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:GDS parent here.

No parent that we know despises Russell. We think he's been a strong leader of the school.

Anonymous wrote:GDS parent here.

No parent that we know despises Russell. We think he's been a strong leader of the school.

Strong leader? The guy was intent on sweeping all this under the rug and had the parents never spoken up and asked for help no one would have ever even been aware this even happened. It would have been buried in the dungeons of GDS where they would have preferred it.

Do you not see the problem? They are playing this PR caring defense nonsense after the fact, they never had intention to play offensive. They never had any proactive intentions to actually do what their PR generated letter says. They had plenty of opportunities to alert people last year, summer, fall. MPD does not tell people that they can not talk about a crime because it will interfere with an investigation, that is complete garbage coverup. Just imagine, the police telling Ms. Guthrie, we the police want you to not alert anyone about the crime of your mother because it not allow us to do an investigation and figure out the criminals.  If this pathetic letter Russel sent was genuine it would have been sent in the spring 2025, Summer 20025 latest.

Russell was betting it would blow over with the student leaving and all would be forgiven. He was betting with the well-being of your child. So wakeup a little. 

The guy is basically a scammer and he is in charge of the school who is educating your kid and others. He is playing the Scammer Fake News game. This is 10x worse than anything Donald Trump is doing because it is with kids.  This is how people learn to become fraudsters when they grow up. 

DP. I don’t think there is any obligation to alert the entire school of a false allegation. If anything that threatens the privacy of the child who made the allegation.

It is wrong to say false allegation here. It is still an allegation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is the head of school going to resign? What about the pattern of kids getting ambushed in the bathroom?

Is this a regular thing ? Is there physical aggression involved? I don’t know the answer that’s why I am asking .

um GDS bathrooms are notoriously worse then public schools. My kids first day in 9th he was asked to vape.

lol you sweet summer child.

X 2

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Something may or may not have happened to this child. Generally, I would say you believe a kid when they tell you something happens. But The school, police, investigators, etc. need some evidence to accuse someone and it seems pretty clear there is no evidence. Whether that’s because the victim waited too long and video footage was erased or the incident did not happen as the child said, the result is the same. As a parent with multiple kids in the school, I think the school handled this as they should have and feel that the family choosing to send out this email was inappropriate.

But they have to PURSUE evidence and it’s pretty clear they interviewed no students or faculty in their “investigation”. You can in good faith say there’s no evidence when you don’t look for it under the guise of confidentiality.

Oh, good! Someone who has actually seen the reports! You speak so confidently that no one was interviewed so you must have inside information. You wouldn’t just base something so inflammatory on your feelings?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:GDS parent here.

No parent that we know despises Russell. We think he's been a strong leader of the school.

Anonymous wrote:GDS parent here.

No parent that we know despises Russell. We think he's been a strong leader of the school.

Strong leader? The guy was intent on sweeping all this under the rug and had the parents never spoken up and asked for help no one would have ever even been aware this even happened. It would have been buried in the dungeons of GDS where they would have preferred it.

Do you not see the problem? They are playing this PR caring defense nonsense after the fact, they never had intention to play offensive. They never had any proactive intentions to actually do what their PR generated letter says. They had plenty of opportunities to alert people last year, summer, fall. MPD does not tell people that they can not talk about a crime because it will interfere with an investigation, that is complete garbage coverup. Just imagine, the police telling Ms. Guthrie, we the police want you to not alert anyone about the crime of your mother because it not allow us to do an investigation and figure out the criminals.  If this pathetic letter Russel sent was genuine it would have been sent in the spring 2025, Summer 20025 latest.

Russell was betting it would blow over with the student leaving and all would be forgiven. He was betting with the well-being of your child. So wakeup a little. 

The guy is basically a scammer and he is in charge of the school who is educating your kid and others. He is playing the Scammer Fake News game. This is 10x worse than anything Donald Trump is doing because it is with kids.  This is how people learn to become fraudsters when they grow up. 

DP. I don’t think there is any obligation to alert the entire school of a false allegation. If anything that threatens the privacy of the child who made the allegation.

It is wrong to say false allegation here. It is still an allegation.

Fine. Unsubstantiated allegation. Same result. Why would the school email about that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:GDS parent here.

No parent that we know despises Russell. We think he's been a strong leader of the school.

Anonymous wrote:GDS parent here.

No parent that we know despises Russell. We think he's been a strong leader of the school.

Strong leader? The guy was intent on sweeping all this under the rug and had the parents never spoken up and asked for help no one would have ever even been aware this even happened. It would have been buried in the dungeons of GDS where they would have preferred it.

Do you not see the problem? They are playing this PR caring defense nonsense after the fact, they never had intention to play offensive. They never had any proactive intentions to actually do what their PR generated letter says. They had plenty of opportunities to alert people last year, summer, fall. MPD does not tell people that they can not talk about a crime because it will interfere with an investigation, that is complete garbage coverup. Just imagine, the police telling Ms. Guthrie, we the police want you to not alert anyone about the crime of your mother because it not allow us to do an investigation and figure out the criminals.  If this pathetic letter Russel sent was genuine it would have been sent in the spring 2025, Summer 20025 latest.

Russell was betting it would blow over with the student leaving and all would be forgiven. He was betting with the well-being of your child. So wakeup a little. 

The guy is basically a scammer and he is in charge of the school who is educating your kid and others. He is playing the Scammer Fake News game. This is 10x worse than anything Donald Trump is doing because it is with kids.  This is how people learn to become fraudsters when they grow up. 

DP. I don’t think there is any obligation to alert the entire school of a false allegation. If anything that threatens the privacy of the child who made the allegation.

It is wrong to say false allegation here. It is still an allegation.

Fine. Unsubstantiated allegation. Same result. Why would the school email about that?

The investigation seemed minimal. Why not ask anyone with info to come forward? Alert the school community and ask anyone who knows anything to help out. Otherwise, it seems like a pretty weak investigation. I would say without a public request like this, they really didn’t do much at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:GDS parent here.

No parent that we know despises Russell. We think he's been a strong leader of the school.

Anonymous wrote:GDS parent here.

No parent that we know despises Russell. We think he's been a strong leader of the school.

Strong leader? The guy was intent on sweeping all this under the rug and had the parents never spoken up and asked for help no one would have ever even been aware this even happened. It would have been buried in the dungeons of GDS where they would have preferred it.

Do you not see the problem? They are playing this PR caring defense nonsense after the fact, they never had intention to play offensive. They never had any proactive intentions to actually do what their PR generated letter says. They had plenty of opportunities to alert people last year, summer, fall. MPD does not tell people that they can not talk about a crime because it will interfere with an investigation, that is complete garbage coverup. Just imagine, the police telling Ms. Guthrie, we the police want you to not alert anyone about the crime of your mother because it not allow us to do an investigation and figure out the criminals.  If this pathetic letter Russel sent was genuine it would have been sent in the spring 2025, Summer 20025 latest.

Russell was betting it would blow over with the student leaving and all would be forgiven. He was betting with the well-being of your child. So wakeup a little. 

The guy is basically a scammer and he is in charge of the school who is educating your kid and others. He is playing the Scammer Fake News game. This is 10x worse than anything Donald Trump is doing because it is with kids.  This is how people learn to become fraudsters when they grow up. 

DP. I don’t think there is any obligation to alert the entire school of a false allegation. If anything that threatens the privacy of the child who made the allegation.

It is wrong to say false allegation here. It is still an allegation.

Fine. Unsubstantiated allegation. Same result. Why would the school email about that?

The investigation seemed minimal. Why not ask anyone with info to come forward? Alert the school community and ask anyone who knows anything to help out. Otherwise, it seems like a pretty weak investigation. I would say without a public request like this, they really didn’t do much at all.

Can you share the evidence that you relied upon to come to that conclusion? I haven’t seen anything that would provide an outsider a clear view as to the depth of the investigation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:GDS parent here.

No parent that we know despises Russell. We think he's been a strong leader of the school.

Anonymous wrote:GDS parent here.

No parent that we know despises Russell. We think he's been a strong leader of the school.

Strong leader? The guy was intent on sweeping all this under the rug and had the parents never spoken up and asked for help no one would have ever even been aware this even happened. It would have been buried in the dungeons of GDS where they would have preferred it.

Do you not see the problem? They are playing this PR caring defense nonsense after the fact, they never had intention to play offensive. They never had any proactive intentions to actually do what their PR generated letter says. They had plenty of opportunities to alert people last year, summer, fall. MPD does not tell people that they can not talk about a crime because it will interfere with an investigation, that is complete garbage coverup. Just imagine, the police telling Ms. Guthrie, we the police want you to not alert anyone about the crime of your mother because it not allow us to do an investigation and figure out the criminals.  If this pathetic letter Russel sent was genuine it would have been sent in the spring 2025, Summer 20025 latest.

Russell was betting it would blow over with the student leaving and all would be forgiven. He was betting with the well-being of your child. So wakeup a little. 

The guy is basically a scammer and he is in charge of the school who is educating your kid and others. He is playing the Scammer Fake News game. This is 10x worse than anything Donald Trump is doing because it is with kids.  This is how people learn to become fraudsters when they grow up. 

DP. I don’t think there is any obligation to alert the entire school of a false allegation. If anything that threatens the privacy of the child who made the allegation.

It is wrong to say false allegation here. It is still an allegation.

Fine. Unsubstantiated allegation. Same result. Why would the school email about that?

The investigation seemed minimal. Why not ask anyone with info to come forward? Alert the school community and ask anyone who knows anything to help out. Otherwise, it seems like a pretty weak investigation. I would say without a public request like this, they really didn’t do much at all.

How many crime investigations involve a general ask to the community at large? Not many.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is the head of school going to resign? What about the pattern of kids getting ambushed in the bathroom?

Is this a regular thing ? Is there physical aggression involved? I don’t know the answer that’s why I am asking .

um GDS bathrooms are notoriously worse then public schools. My kids first day in 9th he was asked to vape.

lol you sweet summer child.

X 2

np - My kid in public high school has *not* had that experience, so I think the naive people may be the PPs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is the head of school going to resign? What about the pattern of kids getting ambushed in the bathroom?

Is this a regular thing ? Is there physical aggression involved? I don’t know the answer that’s why I am asking .

um GDS bathrooms are notoriously worse then public schools. My kids first day in 9th he was asked to vape.

lol you sweet summer child.

X 2

np - My kid in public high school has *not* had that experience, so I think the naive people may be the PPs.

Nobody in your kids HS vapes in the bathroom?