War with Iran Part II

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:WELKER: Will any deal you make include the release of Americans who are being held by Iran?

TRUMP: We'll see. Nobody has an accurate list of who they are or if they're being held

WELKER: Are you demanding a list?

TRUMP: No



So basically ignore the hostages and they aren't an issue. I mean, Benghazi? Biden and Afghanistan? But we are just gonna let this slide?

Why isn’t it all over the news constantly that there are Americans imprisoned in Iran? I had no idea.

[Anonymous]

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The lunatic here still rants. How interesting that Iran's peace with the U.S. depends on Hezbollah. Why? I mean, that is between Lebanon, Israel, and Hezbollah. If Iran did not finance all of the attacks on Israel, where would we be now? But all is Israel's fault, according to crazy pp.

You are such a colossal loser.

Awwwww, poor Iz-why-el just sittin' there all innocent. Won't someone please think of the baby-killers???

DP. And you wonder why you're referred to as a lunatic...

Sane people view extremist Zionists, extremist “Christians”, and extremist Islamists as the lunatics.

Wish we could find a solution for them.

Plop them all in the Sahel desert and let them devolve naturally.

Thunderdome, except no man leaves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump isn't just negotiating from a position of weakness, he is now desperate and is throwing netanyahu under the bus because he has NO control or leverage with ANY of the parties.

He is not negotiating with anyone. The US last met with the Iranians on April 11. This is not for a peace deal but to open the strait so peace talks can start.

This is a disaster.

Yup

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:FT is reporting Trump says he is in charge and Israel will not attack Iran.

“ Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu will have no choice but to accept any deal the US negotiates with Iran, Donald Trump said, because the US president “calls the shots”.

“He won’t have any choice,” Trump told the FT in a telephone interview. “I call the shots. I call all the shots. He [Netanyahu] doesn’t call the shots.”

Trump spoke shortly after Iran launched a salvo of ballistic missiles at Israel in the most serious breach of the ceasefire that was struck in early April.”


Lot of big talk from Trump.

He's delusion. Israel controls our government and calls the shots. Trump alone cannot defy him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FT is reporting Trump says he is in charge and Israel will not attack Iran.

“ Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu will have no choice but to accept any deal the US negotiates with Iran, Donald Trump said, because the US president “calls the shots”.

“He won’t have any choice,” Trump told the FT in a telephone interview. “I call the shots. I call all the shots. He [Netanyahu] doesn’t call the shots.”

Trump spoke shortly after Iran launched a salvo of ballistic missiles at Israel in the most serious breach of the ceasefire that was struck in early April.”


Lot of big talk from Trump.

He's delusion. Israel controls our government and calls the shots. Trump alone cannot defy him.

Israel? I heard it was martians that controlled our country!

[Anonymous]

In this insightful analysis piece, the Guardian’s diplomatic editor, Patrick Wintour, sums up the state of US-Iran negotiations and nods at how Tehran’s grip on the strait of Hormuz puts them in a relatively strong position going forward despite the country’s economy suffering heavily from the war. Here is an extract:

“Iran’s negotiating demands have been remarkably consistent: a ceasefire in Lebanon including the withdrawal of Israel forces and the unfreezing of half of Iran’s frozen assets, about $12bn; a form of Iranian management over the strait of Hormuz; and detailed discussions later about how Tehran assures the US it is not seeking a nuclear weapon, including the down-blending of its highly enriched uranium stockpile.
Trump has been very close to agreeing these terms, but is trying to find ways to phrase them to make them more palatable to his domestic audience.
That is because on balance, the battle of blockades in the strait of Hormuz is trending in Iran’s favour. World oil inventories slowly running out, crashing the global economy from Japan to Brazil, seems more dangerous than Iran running out of cash and oil exports. The democratic west’s capacity to absorb economic pain does not match that of the Iranian regime.“

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In this insightful analysis piece, the Guardian’s diplomatic editor, Patrick Wintour, sums up the state of US-Iran negotiations and nods at how Tehran’s grip on the strait of Hormuz puts them in a relatively strong position going forward despite the country’s economy suffering heavily from the war. Here is an extract:

“Iran’s negotiating demands have been remarkably consistent: a ceasefire in Lebanon including the withdrawal of Israel forces and the unfreezing of half of Iran’s frozen assets, about $12bn; a form of Iranian management over the strait of Hormuz; and detailed discussions later about how Tehran assures the US it is not seeking a nuclear weapon, including the down-blending of its highly enriched uranium stockpile.
Trump has been very close to agreeing these terms, but is trying to find ways to phrase them to make them more palatable to his domestic audience.
That is because on balance, the battle of blockades in the strait of Hormuz is trending in Iran’s favour. World oil inventories slowly running out, crashing the global economy from Japan to Brazil, seems more dangerous than Iran running out of cash and oil exports. The democratic west’s capacity to absorb economic pain does not match that of the Iranian regime.“

It seems to miss the quite obvious point that Iran and the US and the global economy would benefit from peace but that's not practical because of Israel's desires.

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In this insightful analysis piece, the Guardian’s diplomatic editor, Patrick Wintour, sums up the state of US-Iran negotiations and nods at how Tehran’s grip on the strait of Hormuz puts them in a relatively strong position going forward despite the country’s economy suffering heavily from the war. Here is an extract:

“Iran’s negotiating demands have been remarkably consistent: a ceasefire in Lebanon including the withdrawal of Israel forces and the unfreezing of half of Iran’s frozen assets, about $12bn; a form of Iranian management over the strait of Hormuz; and detailed discussions later about how Tehran assures the US it is not seeking a nuclear weapon, including the down-blending of its highly enriched uranium stockpile.
Trump has been very close to agreeing these terms, but is trying to find ways to phrase them to make them more palatable to his domestic audience.
That is because on balance, the battle of blockades in the strait of Hormuz is trending in Iran’s favour. World oil inventories slowly running out, crashing the global economy from Japan to Brazil, seems more dangerous than Iran running out of cash and oil exports. The democratic west’s capacity to absorb economic pain does not match that of the Iranian regime.“

It seems to miss the quite obvious point that Iran and the US and the global economy would benefit from peace but that's not practical because of Israel's desires.

His mental illness prevents him from accepting a deal that’s worse than Obama’s JCPOA, and every deal he’s going to get offered is a lot worse than the JCPOA. So here we are.

And Jared and Witkoff aren’t working very hard on the deal since they’re both at the Knicks game tonight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In this insightful analysis piece, the Guardian’s diplomatic editor, Patrick Wintour, sums up the state of US-Iran negotiations and nods at how Tehran’s grip on the strait of Hormuz puts them in a relatively strong position going forward despite the country’s economy suffering heavily from the war. Here is an extract:

“Iran’s negotiating demands have been remarkably consistent: a ceasefire in Lebanon including the withdrawal of Israel forces and the unfreezing of half of Iran’s frozen assets, about $12bn; a form of Iranian management over the strait of Hormuz; and detailed discussions later about how Tehran assures the US it is not seeking a nuclear weapon, including the down-blending of its highly enriched uranium stockpile.
Trump has been very close to agreeing these terms, but is trying to find ways to phrase them to make them more palatable to his domestic audience.
That is because on balance, the battle of blockades in the strait of Hormuz is trending in Iran’s favour. World oil inventories slowly running out, crashing the global economy from Japan to Brazil, seems more dangerous than Iran running out of cash and oil exports. The democratic west’s capacity to absorb economic pain does not match that of the Iranian regime.“

It seems to miss the quite obvious point that Iran and the US and the global economy would benefit from peace but that's not practical because of Israel's desires.

People are finally figuring this out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In this insightful analysis piece, the Guardian’s diplomatic editor, Patrick Wintour, sums up the state of US-Iran negotiations and nods at how Tehran’s grip on the strait of Hormuz puts them in a relatively strong position going forward despite the country’s economy suffering heavily from the war. Here is an extract:

“Iran’s negotiating demands have been remarkably consistent: a ceasefire in Lebanon including the withdrawal of Israel forces and the unfreezing of half of Iran’s frozen assets, about $12bn; a form of Iranian management over the strait of Hormuz; and detailed discussions later about how Tehran assures the US it is not seeking a nuclear weapon, including the down-blending of its highly enriched uranium stockpile.
Trump has been very close to agreeing these terms, but is trying to find ways to phrase them to make them more palatable to his domestic audience.
That is because on balance, the battle of blockades in the strait of Hormuz is trending in Iran’s favour. World oil inventories slowly running out, crashing the global economy from Japan to Brazil, seems more dangerous than Iran running out of cash and oil exports. The democratic west’s capacity to absorb economic pain does not match that of the Iranian regime.“

It seems to miss the quite obvious point that Iran and the US and the global economy would benefit from peace but that's not practical because of Israel's desires.

People are finally figuring this out.

I don’t think it’s that Americans sympathize with Palestinians. It’s just that Israelis are so unlikable and greedy. They act like we owe them something. They owe us something. In contrast, the Arab countries financially donate to lots of Us universities and finance the Us economy via the petrodollar and they don’t ask for much except the right to live in dignity and away from Israeli tyranny which is not a big ask

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In this insightful analysis piece, the Guardian’s diplomatic editor, Patrick Wintour, sums up the state of US-Iran negotiations and nods at how Tehran’s grip on the strait of Hormuz puts them in a relatively strong position going forward despite the country’s economy suffering heavily from the war. Here is an extract:

“Iran’s negotiating demands have been remarkably consistent: a ceasefire in Lebanon including the withdrawal of Israel forces and the unfreezing of half of Iran’s frozen assets, about $12bn; a form of Iranian management over the strait of Hormuz; and detailed discussions later about how Tehran assures the US it is not seeking a nuclear weapon, including the down-blending of its highly enriched uranium stockpile.
Trump has been very close to agreeing these terms, but is trying to find ways to phrase them to make them more palatable to his domestic audience.
That is because on balance, the battle of blockades in the strait of Hormuz is trending in Iran’s favour. World oil inventories slowly running out, crashing the global economy from Japan to Brazil, seems more dangerous than Iran running out of cash and oil exports. The democratic west’s capacity to absorb economic pain does not match that of the Iranian regime.“

It seems to miss the quite obvious point that Iran and the US and the global economy would benefit from peace but that's not practical because of Israel's desires.

His mental illness prevents him from accepting a deal that’s worse than Obama’s JCPOA, and every deal he’s going to get offered is a lot worse than the JCPOA. So here we are.

And Jared and Witkoff aren’t working very hard on the deal since they’re both at the Knicks game tonight.

Well put

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In this insightful analysis piece, the Guardian’s diplomatic editor, Patrick Wintour, sums up the state of US-Iran negotiations and nods at how Tehran’s grip on the strait of Hormuz puts them in a relatively strong position going forward despite the country’s economy suffering heavily from the war. Here is an extract:

“Iran’s negotiating demands have been remarkably consistent: a ceasefire in Lebanon including the withdrawal of Israel forces and the unfreezing of half of Iran’s frozen assets, about $12bn; a form of Iranian management over the strait of Hormuz; and detailed discussions later about how Tehran assures the US it is not seeking a nuclear weapon, including the down-blending of its highly enriched uranium stockpile.
Trump has been very close to agreeing these terms, but is trying to find ways to phrase them to make them more palatable to his domestic audience.
That is because on balance, the battle of blockades in the strait of Hormuz is trending in Iran’s favour. World oil inventories slowly running out, crashing the global economy from Japan to Brazil, seems more dangerous than Iran running out of cash and oil exports. The democratic west’s capacity to absorb economic pain does not match that of the Iranian regime.“

It seems to miss the quite obvious point that Iran and the US and the global economy would benefit from peace but that's not practical because of Israel's desires.

People are finally figuring this out.

“Yesterday, Rep. Thomas Massie spoke in the U.S. House of Representatives on the anniversary of Israel’s attack on the USS Liberty.

He released classified information about Israel’s crimes during the attack.”

Ethan Levins @EthanLevins2
X.com
“Thomas Massie CONFIRMS Israel used
NAPALM on the USS Liberty.
34 Americans were burned alive, skin boiling from their bodies, after the IDF dropped Napalm on the unarmed ship.
He confirmed this yesterday in the U.S.
Congress.“

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In this insightful analysis piece, the Guardian’s diplomatic editor, Patrick Wintour, sums up the state of US-Iran negotiations and nods at how Tehran’s grip on the strait of Hormuz puts them in a relatively strong position going forward despite the country’s economy suffering heavily from the war. Here is an extract:

“Iran’s negotiating demands have been remarkably consistent: a ceasefire in Lebanon including the withdrawal of Israel forces and the unfreezing of half of Iran’s frozen assets, about $12bn; a form of Iranian management over the strait of Hormuz; and detailed discussions later about how Tehran assures the US it is not seeking a nuclear weapon, including the down-blending of its highly enriched uranium stockpile.
Trump has been very close to agreeing these terms, but is trying to find ways to phrase them to make them more palatable to his domestic audience.
That is because on balance, the battle of blockades in the strait of Hormuz is trending in Iran’s favour. World oil inventories slowly running out, crashing the global economy from Japan to Brazil, seems more dangerous than Iran running out of cash and oil exports. The democratic west’s capacity to absorb economic pain does not match that of the Iranian regime.“

It seems to miss the quite obvious point that Iran and the US and the global economy would benefit from peace but that's not practical because of Israel's desires.

People are finally figuring this out.

“Yesterday, Rep. Thomas Massie spoke in the U.S. House of Representatives on the anniversary of Israel’s attack on the USS Liberty.

He released classified information about Israel’s crimes during the attack.”

Ethan Levins @EthanLevins2
X.com
“Thomas Massie CONFIRMS Israel used
NAPALM on the USS Liberty.
34 Americans were burned alive, skin boiling from their bodies, after the IDF dropped Napalm on the unarmed ship.
He confirmed this yesterday in the U.S.
Congress.“

Always wondered why LBJ handled this incident the way he did.

[Anonymous]

Another helicopter "crashed" over there, and I am wondering about the pilots and crew. We never got any definitive info on the earlier pilot who crashed https://nypost.com/2026/06/02/world-news/us-pilot-shot-over-iran-had-been-downed-before-at-the-start-of-war-report/