DCPS students shafted again - sign petition to keep Jelleff field public

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hardy seems to be the school that seems out of touch here. They basically can use the Ellington field at nearly any time, but they turn up their noses because it isn’t exactly Jelleff (which Maret paid to improve). But Hardy looks fussy and silly because Ellington seems just fine for various Georgetown University teams that use it.

1) Many more schools than Hardy want to use Jelleff. Including Eaton, Hyde-Addison, Mann, and Stoddert plus community groups like the Boys and Girls Club of Washington who has kids in a basement because they can't use Jelleff field. Numerous people have explained that, but because Maret doesn't have a way to defend its actions, it likes to pretend the rest of the DC community doesn't exist.
2) Hardy can't use the Ellington field nearly any time-their use is restricted. Numerous people have explained that, but because Maret doesn't have a way to defend its actions, it likes to make stuff up.


Why is Maret paying just $95,000/year for a facility that DC is putting $50,000,000 into? Why does it not have the funds to buy or lease a private market rate field despite taking in $45,000 in tuition per year.

Boys and Girls Club is a service provider/user just like Stoddert, the British School and Maret. (Actually, the “British” (Chinese owned) School is not 591c3 but rather a for-profit). Who gave B&GC a halo? They have a lot better rights than most users to the facilities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hardy seems to be the school that seems out of touch here. They basically can use the Ellington field at nearly any time, but they turn up their noses because it isn’t exactly Jelleff (which Maret paid to improve). But Hardy looks fussy and silly because Ellington seems just fine for various Georgetown University teams that use it.

1) Many more schools than Hardy want to use Jelleff. Including Eaton, Hyde-Addison, Mann, and Stoddert plus community groups like the Boys and Girls Club of Washington who has kids in a basement because they can't use Jelleff field. Numerous people have explained that, but because Maret doesn't have a way to defend its actions, it likes to pretend the rest of the DC community doesn't exist.
2) Hardy can't use the Ellington field nearly any time-their use is restricted. Numerous people have explained that, but because Maret doesn't have a way to defend its actions, it likes to make stuff up.


Why is Maret paying just $95,000/year for a facility that DC is putting $50,000,000 into? Why does it not have the funds to buy or lease a private market rate field despite taking in $45,000 in tuition per year.

Boys and Girls Club is a service provider/user just like Stoddert, the British School and Maret. (Actually, the “British” (Chinese owned) School is not 591c3 but rather a for-profit). Who gave B&GC a halo? They have a lot better rights than most users to the facilities.

I see you avoided the question of why a school receiving $45,000/year per student is paying only $95,000 a year for a field in which DC is spending millions. Perhaps Maret’s real estate developer parents have the answer about whose palms were greased in DC government.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hardy seems to be the school that seems out of touch here. They basically can use the Ellington field at nearly any time, but they turn up their noses because it isn’t exactly Jelleff (which Maret paid to improve). But Hardy looks fussy and silly because Ellington seems just fine for various Georgetown University teams that use it.

1) Many more schools than Hardy want to use Jelleff. Including Eaton, Hyde-Addison, Mann, and Stoddert plus community groups like the Boys and Girls Club of Washington who has kids in a basement because they can't use Jelleff field. Numerous people have explained that, but because Maret doesn't have a way to defend its actions, it likes to pretend the rest of the DC community doesn't exist.
2) Hardy can't use the Ellington field nearly any time-their use is restricted. Numerous people have explained that, but because Maret doesn't have a way to defend its actions, it likes to make stuff up.


Why is Maret paying just $95,000/year for a facility that DC is putting $50,000,000 into? Why does it not have the funds to buy or lease a private market rate field despite taking in $45,000 in tuition per year.

Boys and Girls Club is a service provider/user just like Stoddert, the British School and Maret. (Actually, the “British” (Chinese owned) School is not 591c3 but rather a for-profit). Who gave B&GC a halo? They have a lot better rights than most users to the facilities.

B&GC is what's called a "programmatic partner" of DPR. Programmatic partners provide programming at no or low cost to DC residents. They provide the programming that DPR wishes it could provide. DPR provides after-school programming at just about every rec center that is near a DCPS school. Programmatic partners get priority at DPR facilities. If an organization provides both partner and non-partner programming -- i.e. Stoddert Soccer provides free programming at some rec centers but also charges for many of its programs -- the priority is only for the partner programs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hardy seems to be the school that seems out of touch here. They basically can use the Ellington field at nearly any time, but they turn up their noses because it isn’t exactly Jelleff (which Maret paid to improve). But Hardy looks fussy and silly because Ellington seems just fine for various Georgetown University teams that use it.

1) Many more schools than Hardy want to use Jelleff. Including Eaton, Hyde-Addison, Mann, and Stoddert plus community groups like the Boys and Girls Club of Washington who has kids in a basement because they can't use Jelleff field. Numerous people have explained that, but because Maret doesn't have a way to defend its actions, it likes to pretend the rest of the DC community doesn't exist.
2) Hardy can't use the Ellington field nearly any time-their use is restricted. Numerous people have explained that, but because Maret doesn't have a way to defend its actions, it likes to make stuff up.


Why is Maret paying just $95,000/year for a facility that DC is putting $50,000,000 into? Why does it not have the funds to buy or lease a private market rate field despite taking in $45,000 in tuition per year.

Boys and Girls Club is a service provider/user just like Stoddert, the British School and Maret. (Actually, the “British” (Chinese owned) School is not 591c3 but rather a for-profit). Who gave B&GC a halo? They have a lot better rights than most users to the facilities.

Er, Boys and Girls Club is the organization who owned the land previously and whose sale if said land gave Maret the opportunity to latch on as a faux white knight to DC’s purchase of it.

Meanwhile, Boys and Girls Club deserves a halo. All the Maret witnesses at the Jelleff hearing listed their resumes of charitable work as a board member of this and a occasional volunteer for that. BGC is living that work every day, serving children, especially low-income children.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not a Maret parent, but I would say that most parents who I know in Upper Northwest feel quire positively toward Maret. Maret has a reputation for being a nice, balanced academic environment. It is generally known that Maret spent a lot of money improving Jelleff for everyone and folks have no problem with Maret getting a reasonable benefit for its investment. Hardy was already facing an uphill battle in Upper NW to be taken seriously. People vaguely think that it has moved a bit although not far enough from the time a decade or more ago when “old Hardy” decidedly did not want to be “gentrified “ by more upper middle class families from Northwest. The campaign against Hardy has reopened old suspicions that the Hardy community is still a hostile, resentful place. It also hasn’t helped the school that some (hopefully few) loud “boosters” found it necessary to highlight how Hardy’s facilities are so lacking. People knew that the school wouldn’t be in Deal’s league academically for a while, if ever. It clearly can’t be in Deal’s league athletically, either.

Maret got a reasonable benefit, they got the ten years they agreed to.

What really irks me is the line of reasoning that we should be giving away valuable public real estate to private schools because they're "nice people." And that public school shouldn't get resources because they are "not nice people."

Especially since it's pretty clear that "nice" is code for "rich and powerful."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hardy seems to be the school that seems out of touch here. They basically can use the Ellington field at nearly any time, but they turn up their noses because it isn’t exactly Jelleff (which Maret paid to improve). But Hardy looks fussy and silly because Ellington seems just fine for various Georgetown University teams that use it.

1) Many more schools than Hardy want to use Jelleff. Including Eaton, Hyde-Addison, Mann, and Stoddert plus community groups like the Boys and Girls Club of Washington who has kids in a basement because they can't use Jelleff field. Numerous people have explained that, but because Maret doesn't have a way to defend its actions, it likes to pretend the rest of the DC community doesn't exist.
2) Hardy can't use the Ellington field nearly any time-their use is restricted. Numerous people have explained that, but because Maret doesn't have a way to defend its actions, it likes to make stuff up.


Why is Maret paying just $95,000/year for a facility that DC is putting $50,000,000 into? Why does it not have the funds to buy or lease a private market rate field despite taking in $45,000 in tuition per year.

Boys and Girls Club is a service provider/user just like Stoddert, the British School and Maret. (Actually, the “British” (Chinese owned) School is not 591c3 but rather a for-profit). Who gave B&GC a halo? They have a lot better rights than most users to the facilities.

I see you avoided the question of why a school receiving $45,000/year per student is paying only $95,000 a year for a field in which DC is spending millions. Perhaps Maret’s real estate developer parents have the answer about whose palms were greased in DC government.

If DC is spending all claim on the field — then no doubt the files will have to be closed for at least a season, if not a whole year. Then what happens to Maret? To the widows and orphans with noses pressed against the fence (or the dank basement window as the case may be) while Maret practices ? What if no one gets to play for a whole year?

[Anonymous]

Maret admits students from Deal from time to time. Who will bet that hell will probably freeze over before a Hardy student is admitted?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maret admits students from Deal from time to time. Who will bet that hell will probably freeze over before a Hardy student is admitted?

No big deal. DCPS parents value fairness and caring for the community, and won't want to expose their kids to Maret values.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maret admits students from Deal from time to time. Who will bet that hell will probably freeze over before a Hardy student is admitted?

No big deal. DCPS parents value fairness and caring for the community, and won't want to expose their kids to Maret values.

And most Maret kids are from VA and MD anyway--we DC taxpayers just fund them for the pure joy of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maret admits students from Deal from time to time. Who will bet that hell will probably freeze over before a Hardy student is admitted?

No big deal. DCPS parents value fairness and caring for the community, and won't want to expose their kids to Maret values.

And most Maret kids are from VA and MD anyway--we DC taxpayers just fund them for the pure joy of it.

Not most. 40 percent don’t live in DC. About the same as Duke Ellington where a lot of students resident in MD. Estimates are that 10 percent of Harsy - and Wilson students - are actually MD residents. Unlike these schools, at least the DC government isn’t paying for Maret students education, including for non-DC residents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maret admits students from Deal from time to time. Who will bet that hell will probably freeze over before a Hardy student is admitted?

No big deal. DCPS parents value fairness and caring for the community, and won't want to expose their kids to Maret values.

And most Maret kids are from VA and MD anyway--we DC taxpayers just fund them for the pure joy of it.

Not most. 40 percent don’t live in DC. About the same as Duke Ellington where a lot of students resident in MD. Estimates are that 10 percent of Harsy - and Wilson students - are actually MD residents. Unlike these schools, at least the DC government isn’t paying for Maret students education, including for non-DC residents.

1. Pls cite your source for the ten percent.

2. Forty percent of Maret students are not DC tax-paying residents. Cut those kids from the Maret teams practicing at Jelleff and free up that space for the other parties willing to share the space and you are on your way to a solution. Good thinking!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maret admits students from Deal from time to time. Who will bet that hell will probably freeze over before a Hardy student is admitted?

No big deal. DCPS parents value fairness and caring for the community, and won't want to expose their kids to Maret values.

And most Maret kids are from VA and MD anyway--we DC taxpayers just fund them for the pure joy of it.

Not most. 40 percent don’t live in DC. About the same as Duke Ellington where a lot of students resident in MD. Estimates are that 10 percent of Harsy - and Wilson students - are actually MD residents. Unlike these schools, at least the DC government isn’t paying for Maret students education, including for non-DC residents.

1. Pls cite your source for the ten percent.

2. Forty percent of Maret students are not DC tax-paying residents. Cut those kids from the Maret teams practicing at Jelleff and free up that space for the other parties willing to share the space and you are on your way to a solution. Good thinking!

+1 Name names of Duke Ellington students who don't live in DC rather than slandering them (which you can't do, because I bet you've never met a DCPS student, even though you like to disparage them anonymously.) Better yet, call OSSE rather than making up garbage because you're ashamed that rich Maret kids are being subsidized by DC taxpayers because its administration is too cheap and incompetent to find a field of its own.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maret admits students from Deal from time to time. Who will bet that hell will probably freeze over before a Hardy student is admitted?

No big deal. DCPS parents value fairness and caring for the community, and won't want to expose their kids to Maret values.

And most Maret kids are from VA and MD anyway--we DC taxpayers just fund them for the pure joy of it.

Not most. 40 percent don’t live in DC. About the same as Duke Ellington where a lot of students resident in MD. Estimates are that 10 percent of Harsy - and Wilson students - are actually MD residents. Unlike these schools, at least the DC government isn’t paying for Maret students education, including for non-DC residents.

1. Pls cite your source for the ten percent.

2. Forty percent of Maret students are not DC tax-paying residents. Cut those kids from the Maret teams practicing at Jelleff and free up that space for the other parties willing to share the space and you are on your way to a solution. Good thinking!

+1 Name names of Duke Ellington students who don't live in DC rather than slandering them (which you can't do, because I bet you've never met a DCPS student, even though you like to disparage them anonymously.) Better yet, call OSSE rather than making up garbage because you're ashamed that rich Maret kids are being subsidized by DC taxpayers because its administration is too cheap and incompetent to find a field of its own.

Crickets. The Maret community likes to sling mud at public school students, but they can't back up their slander with any facts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maret admits students from Deal from time to time. Who will bet that hell will probably freeze over before a Hardy student is admitted?

No big deal. DCPS parents value fairness and caring for the community, and won't want to expose their kids to Maret values.

And most Maret kids are from VA and MD anyway--we DC taxpayers just fund them for the pure joy of it.

How is that and who is we?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maret admits students from Deal from time to time. Who will bet that hell will probably freeze over before a Hardy student is admitted?

No big deal. DCPS parents value fairness and caring for the community, and won't want to expose their kids to Maret values.

And most Maret kids are from VA and MD anyway--we DC taxpayers just fund them for the pure joy of it.

How is that and who is we?

Tax-free facility (not for profit) and the Jelleff side deal.