FCPS comprehensive boundary review

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How is a boundary change messing with the free market? A perfect market already factors in the possibility that areas on the periphery of a school boundary in a county-wide system may be more susceptible to being rezoned to a less “desirable” school.

Of course, the art is properly calculating that possibility, and perhaps most have understood that there should be compelling reasons to redistrict based on severe overcrowding or under-enrollment. But in that case your stronger argument is that those conditions do not currently exist, not that FCPS is interfering with a free housing market. You are still completely free to buy and sell properties at market terms.


Please show me a real estate listing in Fairfax that mentions that caveat.

When a neighborhood is decades old and has been assigned to the same school since its existence, one can jump to the conclusion that it is "safe from redistricting." That is, unless it has UMC kids. Then, the SB eyes it with glee..


Absolutely. +100. Even now, unsuspecting families are buying homes in the school board’s crosshairs in part because they are advertising the sought after school districts in the mls listings.

All these caveat emptor posters really are something else.


Ethically, realtors and real estate listings are actually not able to speak to purported school performance – but the scores are allowed into the listings via Great Schools and people can read into that what they wish. Realtors and the actual listings have to be very objective, otherwise they can be violating Fair Housing laws.



People home shopping can just take the home address, plug it into FCPS boundary locator, and the school pops up.

They then just go to the school profile to get information about the school such as free lunch or ESOL stats.

Then, they go to the state of Virginia website with the school names, and get the accreditation info.

Great schools in convenient, but completely unnecessary to research before you buy.


Right, just not seeing how this process keys potential buyers into the very real redistricting threat, as the sb shills like to parrots.


As a threshold matter, a buyer in Fairfax County, should understand they are buying in a county that operates a county-wide school system, not a town-based one like in much of New England or the Mid-Atlantic.

Then, if they are checking out the specific assigned schools, the FCPS boundary locator states prominently "Please note that school boundaries may be adjusted by the School Board. FCPS provides no guarantee that any residential address will continually be served by the same elementary, middle, and/or high school(s) or AAP center(s)."

If they were to look at boundary maps, whether on the FCPS web site or real estate sites like Redfin, they can aksi see whether a house is on the periphery of a school boundary or close to the school.

None of this provides a roadmap as to whether a neighborhood will, in fact, be redistricted, but it provides enough information to put people on notice that their school assignments may change. That information, in turn, is reflected more generally in the prices for properties in a neighborhood. If the boundaries do change, it is not quite the bait-and-switch that posters who don't want to be redistricted (and we all get that, as people rarely want to be redistricted) are claiming it is.


LOL. It’s stated in obscure boiler plate language on a superfluous webpage that there is a possibility of boundary changes, a website that a potential purchaser wouldn’t need to go to (and likely wouldn’t visit) because the info is available on Zillow or Redfin, and that somehow puts the purchase on notice?

Did i get that right? How absurd.


The more excuses you make for your own stupidity, the more you make the case that you are very dumb, incredibly entitled, or both.


The more you go around calling people stupid and dumb online....the more you are probably that yourself


I’m not complaining every day about possibly getting redistricted or calling every other poster with a pulse an “equity warrior,” so a fair inference is that I made better choices than you did, or at least have found it easier to live with those choices. Hugs.


Lol I'm also not online every day calling people names....hugs sweetie!
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How is a boundary change messing with the free market? A perfect market already factors in the possibility that areas on the periphery of a school boundary in a county-wide system may be more susceptible to being rezoned to a less “desirable” school.

Of course, the art is properly calculating that possibility, and perhaps most have understood that there should be compelling reasons to redistrict based on severe overcrowding or under-enrollment. But in that case your stronger argument is that those conditions do not currently exist, not that FCPS is interfering with a free housing market. You are still completely free to buy and sell properties at market terms.


Please show me a real estate listing in Fairfax that mentions that caveat.

When a neighborhood is decades old and has been assigned to the same school since its existence, one can jump to the conclusion that it is "safe from redistricting." That is, unless it has UMC kids. Then, the SB eyes it with glee..


Absolutely. +100. Even now, unsuspecting families are buying homes in the school board’s crosshairs in part because they are advertising the sought after school districts in the mls listings.

All these caveat emptor posters really are something else.


Ethically, realtors and real estate listings are actually not able to speak to purported school performance – but the scores are allowed into the listings via Great Schools and people can read into that what they wish. Realtors and the actual listings have to be very objective, otherwise they can be violating Fair Housing laws.



People home shopping can just take the home address, plug it into FCPS boundary locator, and the school pops up.

They then just go to the school profile to get information about the school such as free lunch or ESOL stats.

Then, they go to the state of Virginia website with the school names, and get the accreditation info.

Great schools in convenient, but completely unnecessary to research before you buy.


Right, just not seeing how this process keys potential buyers into the very real redistricting threat, as the sb shills like to parrots.


As a threshold matter, a buyer in Fairfax County, should understand they are buying in a county that operates a county-wide school system, not a town-based one like in much of New England or the Mid-Atlantic.

Then, if they are checking out the specific assigned schools, the FCPS boundary locator states prominently "Please note that school boundaries may be adjusted by the School Board. FCPS provides no guarantee that any residential address will continually be served by the same elementary, middle, and/or high school(s) or AAP center(s)."

If they were to look at boundary maps, whether on the FCPS web site or real estate sites like Redfin, they can aksi see whether a house is on the periphery of a school boundary or close to the school.

None of this provides a roadmap as to whether a neighborhood will, in fact, be redistricted, but it provides enough information to put people on notice that their school assignments may change. That information, in turn, is reflected more generally in the prices for properties in a neighborhood. If the boundaries do change, it is not quite the bait-and-switch that posters who don't want to be redistricted (and we all get that, as people rarely want to be redistricted) are claiming it is.


LOL. It’s stated in obscure boiler plate language on a superfluous webpage that there is a possibility of boundary changes, a website that a potential purchaser wouldn’t need to go to (and likely wouldn’t visit) because the info is available on Zillow or Redfin, and that somehow puts the purchase on notice?

Did i get that right? How absurd.


The more excuses you make for your own stupidity, the more you make the case that you are very dumb, incredibly entitled, or both.


The more you go around calling people stupid and dumb online....the more you are probably that yourself


I’m not complaining every day about possibly getting redistricted or calling every other poster with a pulse an “equity warrior,” so a fair inference is that I made better choices than you did, or at least have found it easier to live with those choices. Hugs.


That was actually a different poster that you were responding to. Weird that you would think begging for “richer” kids to join your kids in school means that you’ve made better choices than me.

I’ve already got contingency plans lined up, so i feel pretty good with the choices I’ve made in life. Kisses.
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How is a boundary change messing with the free market? A perfect market already factors in the possibility that areas on the periphery of a school boundary in a county-wide system may be more susceptible to being rezoned to a less “desirable” school.

Of course, the art is properly calculating that possibility, and perhaps most have understood that there should be compelling reasons to redistrict based on severe overcrowding or under-enrollment. But in that case your stronger argument is that those conditions do not currently exist, not that FCPS is interfering with a free housing market. You are still completely free to buy and sell properties at market terms.


Please show me a real estate listing in Fairfax that mentions that caveat.

When a neighborhood is decades old and has been assigned to the same school since its existence, one can jump to the conclusion that it is "safe from redistricting." That is, unless it has UMC kids. Then, the SB eyes it with glee..


Absolutely. +100. Even now, unsuspecting families are buying homes in the school board’s crosshairs in part because they are advertising the sought after school districts in the mls listings.

All these caveat emptor posters really are something else.


Ethically, realtors and real estate listings are actually not able to speak to purported school performance – but the scores are allowed into the listings via Great Schools and people can read into that what they wish. Realtors and the actual listings have to be very objective, otherwise they can be violating Fair Housing laws.



People home shopping can just take the home address, plug it into FCPS boundary locator, and the school pops up.

They then just go to the school profile to get information about the school such as free lunch or ESOL stats.

Then, they go to the state of Virginia website with the school names, and get the accreditation info.

Great schools in convenient, but completely unnecessary to research before you buy.


Right, just not seeing how this process keys potential buyers into the very real redistricting threat, as the sb shills like to parrots.


As a threshold matter, a buyer in Fairfax County, should understand they are buying in a county that operates a county-wide school system, not a town-based one like in much of New England or the Mid-Atlantic.

Then, if they are checking out the specific assigned schools, the FCPS boundary locator states prominently "Please note that school boundaries may be adjusted by the School Board. FCPS provides no guarantee that any residential address will continually be served by the same elementary, middle, and/or high school(s) or AAP center(s)."

If they were to look at boundary maps, whether on the FCPS web site or real estate sites like Redfin, they can aksi see whether a house is on the periphery of a school boundary or close to the school.

None of this provides a roadmap as to whether a neighborhood will, in fact, be redistricted, but it provides enough information to put people on notice that their school assignments may change. That information, in turn, is reflected more generally in the prices for properties in a neighborhood. If the boundaries do change, it is not quite the bait-and-switch that posters who don't want to be redistricted (and we all get that, as people rarely want to be redistricted) are claiming it is.


LOL. It’s stated in obscure boiler plate language on a superfluous webpage that there is a possibility of boundary changes, a website that a potential purchaser wouldn’t need to go to (and likely wouldn’t visit) because the info is available on Zillow or Redfin, and that somehow puts the purchase on notice?

Did i get that right? How absurd.


The more excuses you make for your own stupidity, the more you make the case that you are very dumb, incredibly entitled, or both.


The more you go around calling people stupid and dumb online....the more you are probably that yourself


I’m not complaining every day about possibly getting redistricted or calling every other poster with a pulse an “equity warrior,” so a fair inference is that I made better choices than you did, or at least have found it easier to live with those choices. Hugs.


That was actually a different poster that you were responding to. Weird that you would think begging for “richer” kids to join your kids in school means that you’ve made better choices than me.

I’ve already got contingency plans lined up, so i feel pretty good with the choices I’ve made in life. Kisses.


Please tell us more. You’ve been regaling us about those “contingency plans” for months.

It would be more interesting than having to correct your false assumptions again.
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How is a boundary change messing with the free market? A perfect market already factors in the possibility that areas on the periphery of a school boundary in a county-wide system may be more susceptible to being rezoned to a less “desirable” school.

Of course, the art is properly calculating that possibility, and perhaps most have understood that there should be compelling reasons to redistrict based on severe overcrowding or under-enrollment. But in that case your stronger argument is that those conditions do not currently exist, not that FCPS is interfering with a free housing market. You are still completely free to buy and sell properties at market terms.


Please show me a real estate listing in Fairfax that mentions that caveat.

When a neighborhood is decades old and has been assigned to the same school since its existence, one can jump to the conclusion that it is "safe from redistricting." That is, unless it has UMC kids. Then, the SB eyes it with glee..


Absolutely. +100. Even now, unsuspecting families are buying homes in the school board’s crosshairs in part because they are advertising the sought after school districts in the mls listings.

All these caveat emptor posters really are something else.


Ethically, realtors and real estate listings are actually not able to speak to purported school performance – but the scores are allowed into the listings via Great Schools and people can read into that what they wish. Realtors and the actual listings have to be very objective, otherwise they can be violating Fair Housing laws.



People home shopping can just take the home address, plug it into FCPS boundary locator, and the school pops up.

They then just go to the school profile to get information about the school such as free lunch or ESOL stats.

Then, they go to the state of Virginia website with the school names, and get the accreditation info.

Great schools in convenient, but completely unnecessary to research before you buy.


Right, just not seeing how this process keys potential buyers into the very real redistricting threat, as the sb shills like to parrots.


As a threshold matter, a buyer in Fairfax County, should understand they are buying in a county that operates a county-wide school system, not a town-based one like in much of New England or the Mid-Atlantic.

Then, if they are checking out the specific assigned schools, the FCPS boundary locator states prominently "Please note that school boundaries may be adjusted by the School Board. FCPS provides no guarantee that any residential address will continually be served by the same elementary, middle, and/or high school(s) or AAP center(s)."

If they were to look at boundary maps, whether on the FCPS web site or real estate sites like Redfin, they can aksi see whether a house is on the periphery of a school boundary or close to the school.

None of this provides a roadmap as to whether a neighborhood will, in fact, be redistricted, but it provides enough information to put people on notice that their school assignments may change. That information, in turn, is reflected more generally in the prices for properties in a neighborhood. If the boundaries do change, it is not quite the bait-and-switch that posters who don't want to be redistricted (and we all get that, as people rarely want to be redistricted) are claiming it is.


LOL. It’s stated in obscure boiler plate language on a superfluous webpage that there is a possibility of boundary changes, a website that a potential purchaser wouldn’t need to go to (and likely wouldn’t visit) because the info is available on Zillow or Redfin, and that somehow puts the purchase on notice?

Did i get that right? How absurd.


The more excuses you make for your own stupidity, the more you make the case that you are very dumb, incredibly entitled, or both.


The more you go around calling people stupid and dumb online....the more you are probably that yourself


I’m not complaining every day about possibly getting redistricted or calling every other poster with a pulse an “equity warrior,” so a fair inference is that I made better choices than you did, or at least have found it easier to live with those choices. Hugs.


That was actually a different poster that you were responding to. Weird that you would think begging for “richer” kids to join your kids in school means that you’ve made better choices than me.

I’ve already got contingency plans lined up, so i feel pretty good with the choices I’ve made in life. Kisses.


Please tell us more. You’ve been regaling us about those “contingency plans” for months.

It would be more interesting than having to correct your false assumptions again.


I’m going to claim that my kids are homeless in the Hayfield pyramid. Reid allows it.
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How is a boundary change messing with the free market? A perfect market already factors in the possibility that areas on the periphery of a school boundary in a county-wide system may be more susceptible to being rezoned to a less “desirable” school.

Of course, the art is properly calculating that possibility, and perhaps most have understood that there should be compelling reasons to redistrict based on severe overcrowding or under-enrollment. But in that case your stronger argument is that those conditions do not currently exist, not that FCPS is interfering with a free housing market. You are still completely free to buy and sell properties at market terms.


Please show me a real estate listing in Fairfax that mentions that caveat.

When a neighborhood is decades old and has been assigned to the same school since its existence, one can jump to the conclusion that it is "safe from redistricting." That is, unless it has UMC kids. Then, the SB eyes it with glee..


Absolutely. +100. Even now, unsuspecting families are buying homes in the school board’s crosshairs in part because they are advertising the sought after school districts in the mls listings.

All these caveat emptor posters really are something else.


Ethically, realtors and real estate listings are actually not able to speak to purported school performance – but the scores are allowed into the listings via Great Schools and people can read into that what they wish. Realtors and the actual listings have to be very objective, otherwise they can be violating Fair Housing laws.



People home shopping can just take the home address, plug it into FCPS boundary locator, and the school pops up.

They then just go to the school profile to get information about the school such as free lunch or ESOL stats.

Then, they go to the state of Virginia website with the school names, and get the accreditation info.

Great schools in convenient, but completely unnecessary to research before you buy.


Right, just not seeing how this process keys potential buyers into the very real redistricting threat, as the sb shills like to parrots.


As a threshold matter, a buyer in Fairfax County, should understand they are buying in a county that operates a county-wide school system, not a town-based one like in much of New England or the Mid-Atlantic.

Then, if they are checking out the specific assigned schools, the FCPS boundary locator states prominently "Please note that school boundaries may be adjusted by the School Board. FCPS provides no guarantee that any residential address will continually be served by the same elementary, middle, and/or high school(s) or AAP center(s)."

If they were to look at boundary maps, whether on the FCPS web site or real estate sites like Redfin, they can aksi see whether a house is on the periphery of a school boundary or close to the school.

None of this provides a roadmap as to whether a neighborhood will, in fact, be redistricted, but it provides enough information to put people on notice that their school assignments may change. That information, in turn, is reflected more generally in the prices for properties in a neighborhood. If the boundaries do change, it is not quite the bait-and-switch that posters who don't want to be redistricted (and we all get that, as people rarely want to be redistricted) are claiming it is.


LOL. It’s stated in obscure boiler plate language on a superfluous webpage that there is a possibility of boundary changes, a website that a potential purchaser wouldn’t need to go to (and likely wouldn’t visit) because the info is available on Zillow or Redfin, and that somehow puts the purchase on notice?

Did i get that right? How absurd.


The more excuses you make for your own stupidity, the more you make the case that you are very dumb, incredibly entitled, or both.


The more you go around calling people stupid and dumb online....the more you are probably that yourself


I’m not complaining every day about possibly getting redistricted or calling every other poster with a pulse an “equity warrior,” so a fair inference is that I made better choices than you did, or at least have found it easier to live with those choices. Hugs.


That was actually a different poster that you were responding to. Weird that you would think begging for “richer” kids to join your kids in school means that you’ve made better choices than me.

I’ve already got contingency plans lined up, so i feel pretty good with the choices I’ve made in life. Kisses.


Please tell us more. You’ve been regaling us about those “contingency plans” for months.

It would be more interesting than having to correct your false assumptions again.


I’m going to claim that my kids are homeless in the Hayfield pyramid. Reid allows it.


Ha. That’s the one thing they’ll crack down on. Responding to yesterday’s crisis rather than anticipating tomorrow’s is their specialty.

You need a Plan B.
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How is a boundary change messing with the free market? A perfect market already factors in the possibility that areas on the periphery of a school boundary in a county-wide system may be more susceptible to being rezoned to a less “desirable” school.

Of course, the art is properly calculating that possibility, and perhaps most have understood that there should be compelling reasons to redistrict based on severe overcrowding or under-enrollment. But in that case your stronger argument is that those conditions do not currently exist, not that FCPS is interfering with a free housing market. You are still completely free to buy and sell properties at market terms.


Please show me a real estate listing in Fairfax that mentions that caveat.

When a neighborhood is decades old and has been assigned to the same school since its existence, one can jump to the conclusion that it is "safe from redistricting." That is, unless it has UMC kids. Then, the SB eyes it with glee..


Absolutely. +100. Even now, unsuspecting families are buying homes in the school board’s crosshairs in part because they are advertising the sought after school districts in the mls listings.

All these caveat emptor posters really are something else.


Ethically, realtors and real estate listings are actually not able to speak to purported school performance – but the scores are allowed into the listings via Great Schools and people can read into that what they wish. Realtors and the actual listings have to be very objective, otherwise they can be violating Fair Housing laws.



People home shopping can just take the home address, plug it into FCPS boundary locator, and the school pops up.

They then just go to the school profile to get information about the school such as free lunch or ESOL stats.

Then, they go to the state of Virginia website with the school names, and get the accreditation info.

Great schools in convenient, but completely unnecessary to research before you buy.


Right, just not seeing how this process keys potential buyers into the very real redistricting threat, as the sb shills like to parrots.


As a threshold matter, a buyer in Fairfax County, should understand they are buying in a county that operates a county-wide school system, not a town-based one like in much of New England or the Mid-Atlantic.

Then, if they are checking out the specific assigned schools, the FCPS boundary locator states prominently "Please note that school boundaries may be adjusted by the School Board. FCPS provides no guarantee that any residential address will continually be served by the same elementary, middle, and/or high school(s) or AAP center(s)."

If they were to look at boundary maps, whether on the FCPS web site or real estate sites like Redfin, they can aksi see whether a house is on the periphery of a school boundary or close to the school.

None of this provides a roadmap as to whether a neighborhood will, in fact, be redistricted, but it provides enough information to put people on notice that their school assignments may change. That information, in turn, is reflected more generally in the prices for properties in a neighborhood. If the boundaries do change, it is not quite the bait-and-switch that posters who don't want to be redistricted (and we all get that, as people rarely want to be redistricted) are claiming it is.


LOL. It’s stated in obscure boiler plate language on a superfluous webpage that there is a possibility of boundary changes, a website that a potential purchaser wouldn’t need to go to (and likely wouldn’t visit) because the info is available on Zillow or Redfin, and that somehow puts the purchase on notice?

Did i get that right? How absurd.


The more excuses you make for your own stupidity, the more you make the case that you are very dumb, incredibly entitled, or both.


We recently moved to Fairfax county. Just shortly before the school board changed 8130 and started this boundary review. We didn’t know anything about it. We bought in great falls after looking all over the county. We definitely paid a premium for Langley. I saw that boundaries are not guaranteed on the website but we are not right next to a boundary line. We are just as close to Langley if not closer than som of GFES and Colvin run. We thought if changes were made it would be a few streets on the edges of the boundaries. Or the addresses in Reston or Herndon zoned to Langley (as told to us by our agent). Never would have dreamed they would move an entire elementary. We looked at houses in Herndon, same specs, 1/2 a million cheaper than we paid. Had i known we could be rezoned within a year of moving we would have bought the cheaper house and just gone to private with the savings.
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https://mvonthemove.com/fcps-engages-with-families-from-region-3-on-school-boundary-review/

12/9/24 Region 3 - Edison, West Potomac, Mount Vernon. 300 attendees. Far different than Reid 's orchestration for Region 5. Note Reid + Dunne sticking in a new program only available for West Potomac pyramid rather than changing boundaries. https://mvonthemove.com/bucknell-elementary-decides-to-add-montessori-program-option-after-all/
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How is a boundary change messing with the free market? A perfect market already factors in the possibility that areas on the periphery of a school boundary in a county-wide system may be more susceptible to being rezoned to a less “desirable” school.

Of course, the art is properly calculating that possibility, and perhaps most have understood that there should be compelling reasons to redistrict based on severe overcrowding or under-enrollment. But in that case your stronger argument is that those conditions do not currently exist, not that FCPS is interfering with a free housing market. You are still completely free to buy and sell properties at market terms.


Please show me a real estate listing in Fairfax that mentions that caveat.

When a neighborhood is decades old and has been assigned to the same school since its existence, one can jump to the conclusion that it is "safe from redistricting." That is, unless it has UMC kids. Then, the SB eyes it with glee..


Absolutely. +100. Even now, unsuspecting families are buying homes in the school board’s crosshairs in part because they are advertising the sought after school districts in the mls listings.

All these caveat emptor posters really are something else.


Ethically, realtors and real estate listings are actually not able to speak to purported school performance – but the scores are allowed into the listings via Great Schools and people can read into that what they wish. Realtors and the actual listings have to be very objective, otherwise they can be violating Fair Housing laws.



People home shopping can just take the home address, plug it into FCPS boundary locator, and the school pops up.

They then just go to the school profile to get information about the school such as free lunch or ESOL stats.

Then, they go to the state of Virginia website with the school names, and get the accreditation info.

Great schools in convenient, but completely unnecessary to research before you buy.


Right, just not seeing how this process keys potential buyers into the very real redistricting threat, as the sb shills like to parrots.


As a threshold matter, a buyer in Fairfax County, should understand they are buying in a county that operates a county-wide school system, not a town-based one like in much of New England or the Mid-Atlantic.

Then, if they are checking out the specific assigned schools, the FCPS boundary locator states prominently "Please note that school boundaries may be adjusted by the School Board. FCPS provides no guarantee that any residential address will continually be served by the same elementary, middle, and/or high school(s) or AAP center(s)."

If they were to look at boundary maps, whether on the FCPS web site or real estate sites like Redfin, they can aksi see whether a house is on the periphery of a school boundary or close to the school.

None of this provides a roadmap as to whether a neighborhood will, in fact, be redistricted, but it provides enough information to put people on notice that their school assignments may change. That information, in turn, is reflected more generally in the prices for properties in a neighborhood. If the boundaries do change, it is not quite the bait-and-switch that posters who don't want to be redistricted (and we all get that, as people rarely want to be redistricted) are claiming it is.


LOL. It’s stated in obscure boiler plate language on a superfluous webpage that there is a possibility of boundary changes, a website that a potential purchaser wouldn’t need to go to (and likely wouldn’t visit) because the info is available on Zillow or Redfin, and that somehow puts the purchase on notice?

Did i get that right? How absurd.


The more excuses you make for your own stupidity, the more you make the case that you are very dumb, incredibly entitled, or both.


The more you go around calling people stupid and dumb online....the more you are probably that yourself


I’m not complaining every day about possibly getting redistricted or calling every other poster with a pulse an “equity warrior,” so a fair inference is that I made better choices than you did, or at least have found it easier to live with those choices. Hugs.


That was actually a different poster that you were responding to. Weird that you would think begging for “richer” kids to join your kids in school means that you’ve made better choices than me.

I’ve already got contingency plans lined up, so i feel pretty good with the choices I’ve made in life. Kisses.


Please tell us more. You’ve been regaling us about those “contingency plans” for months.

It would be more interesting than having to correct your false assumptions again.


I’m going to claim that my kids are homeless in the Hayfield pyramid. Reid allows it.

If filing fraudulent paperwork makes you feel better about yourself good for you.
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How is a boundary change messing with the free market? A perfect market already factors in the possibility that areas on the periphery of a school boundary in a county-wide system may be more susceptible to being rezoned to a less “desirable” school.

Of course, the art is properly calculating that possibility, and perhaps most have understood that there should be compelling reasons to redistrict based on severe overcrowding or under-enrollment. But in that case your stronger argument is that those conditions do not currently exist, not that FCPS is interfering with a free housing market. You are still completely free to buy and sell properties at market terms.


Please show me a real estate listing in Fairfax that mentions that caveat.

When a neighborhood is decades old and has been assigned to the same school since its existence, one can jump to the conclusion that it is "safe from redistricting." That is, unless it has UMC kids. Then, the SB eyes it with glee..


Absolutely. +100. Even now, unsuspecting families are buying homes in the school board’s crosshairs in part because they are advertising the sought after school districts in the mls listings.

All these caveat emptor posters really are something else.


Ethically, realtors and real estate listings are actually not able to speak to purported school performance – but the scores are allowed into the listings via Great Schools and people can read into that what they wish. Realtors and the actual listings have to be very objective, otherwise they can be violating Fair Housing laws.



People home shopping can just take the home address, plug it into FCPS boundary locator, and the school pops up.

They then just go to the school profile to get information about the school such as free lunch or ESOL stats.

Then, they go to the state of Virginia website with the school names, and get the accreditation info.

Great schools in convenient, but completely unnecessary to research before you buy.


Right, just not seeing how this process keys potential buyers into the very real redistricting threat, as the sb shills like to parrots.


As a threshold matter, a buyer in Fairfax County, should understand they are buying in a county that operates a county-wide school system, not a town-based one like in much of New England or the Mid-Atlantic.

Then, if they are checking out the specific assigned schools, the FCPS boundary locator states prominently "Please note that school boundaries may be adjusted by the School Board. FCPS provides no guarantee that any residential address will continually be served by the same elementary, middle, and/or high school(s) or AAP center(s)."

If they were to look at boundary maps, whether on the FCPS web site or real estate sites like Redfin, they can aksi see whether a house is on the periphery of a school boundary or close to the school.

None of this provides a roadmap as to whether a neighborhood will, in fact, be redistricted, but it provides enough information to put people on notice that their school assignments may change. That information, in turn, is reflected more generally in the prices for properties in a neighborhood. If the boundaries do change, it is not quite the bait-and-switch that posters who don't want to be redistricted (and we all get that, as people rarely want to be redistricted) are claiming it is.


LOL. It’s stated in obscure boiler plate language on a superfluous webpage that there is a possibility of boundary changes, a website that a potential purchaser wouldn’t need to go to (and likely wouldn’t visit) because the info is available on Zillow or Redfin, and that somehow puts the purchase on notice?

Did i get that right? How absurd.


The more excuses you make for your own stupidity, the more you make the case that you are very dumb, incredibly entitled, or both.


We recently moved to Fairfax county. Just shortly before the school board changed 8130 and started this boundary review. We didn’t know anything about it. We bought in great falls after looking all over the county. We definitely paid a premium for Langley. I saw that boundaries are not guaranteed on the website but we are not right next to a boundary line. We are just as close to Langley if not closer than som of GFES and Colvin run. We thought if changes were made it would be a few streets on the edges of the boundaries. Or the addresses in Reston or Herndon zoned to Langley (as told to us by our agent). Never would have dreamed they would move an entire elementary. We looked at houses in Herndon, same specs, 1/2 a million cheaper than we paid. Had i known we could be rezoned within a year of moving we would have bought the cheaper house and just gone to private with the savings.


So it goes. It's not like any proposals have even been made yet.

I assume you're talking about Forestville, and it's entirely possible they'll move some Forestville neighborhoods on the other side of Route 7 to other elementary schools and keep the remainder of Forestville at Langley. Otherwise Langley would only have four ES feeders (Great Falls, Colvin Run, Spring Hill, and Churchill Road). I don't think any HS in FCPS only has four ES feeders. Or do something else.
Anonymous
Lewis Pyramid Recommendations

If elementary AAP centers remain, move Saratoga AAP students to Springfield Estates. That would put all Lewis pyramid AAP center students in one school. After opening the Bush Hill (?) AAP center in the Edison pyramid there is room at Springfield Estates. It would be a bit of a bus ride, but if AAP is worth it the Saratoga parents should not mind.

If they continue to have middle school AAP all middle schools must offer it. No more AAP middle school centers. So, Key Middle School would offer AAP. Most of the AAP students who go to Lake Braddock and some of the Twain students never return to Lewis. Bringing those students back to Key is crucial.

At Lewis – drop IB and reinstate a full Advanced Placement (AP) program. The numbers for a long time have backed up dropping IB at Lewis. The county is just stubborn.

The students remaining at Lewis are not responsible for the drop in enrollment, which is partially due to a large cohort of pupil placements (mostly wealthier students with means to have their own transportation) and previous boundary changes that pulled too many students out of Lewis. Imagine you are an advanced student at Lewis who wants to take Calculus. But because the school is so small, due in part to those pupil placements that the county allows, the class can only be offered once a day. That student either goes without that class or makes other compromises in their schedule.

I propose that Lewis be staffed according to the number of attending students + the number of pupil placements out of the school + any supplement they currently get for the high ESOL population. Again, it is no fault of the students attending Lewis that the county is allowing many students to pupil place out. At least some of the extra staff should be dedicated to advanced students (ensuring, for example, that a class like Calculus can be offered more than once a day). If some classes are tiny (small teacher to student ratio), so be it. A low teacher to student ratio might bring back some students. Does this almost seem unfair to other schools? Maybe, but it does seem like the right thing to do. And since nobody seems to want to get rezoned to Lewis, it seems like a fair trade.

The trickiest problem is the language offering disparity. It is too easy for a student to pupil place for a language when the real reason is they are just trying to escape from a school. The only thing I can think of is to settle on a set of standard, popular languages and make the others available online. That is not ideal. But if there is not parity in languages, students will continue to pupil place.

Would West Springfield parents support such changes if it prevented their children from being sent to Lewis? My guess is yes.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Lewis Pyramid Recommendations

If elementary AAP centers remain, move Saratoga AAP students to Springfield Estates. That would put all Lewis pyramid AAP center students in one school. After opening the Bush Hill (?) AAP center in the Edison pyramid there is room at Springfield Estates. It would be a bit of a bus ride, but if AAP is worth it the Saratoga parents should not mind.

If they continue to have middle school AAP all middle schools must offer it. No more AAP middle school centers. So, Key Middle School would offer AAP. Most of the AAP students who go to Lake Braddock and some of the Twain students never return to Lewis. Bringing those students back to Key is crucial.

At Lewis – drop IB and reinstate a full Advanced Placement (AP) program. The numbers for a long time have backed up dropping IB at Lewis. The county is just stubborn.

The students remaining at Lewis are not responsible for the drop in enrollment, which is partially due to a large cohort of pupil placements (mostly wealthier students with means to have their own transportation) and previous boundary changes that pulled too many students out of Lewis. Imagine you are an advanced student at Lewis who wants to take Calculus. But because the school is so small, due in part to those pupil placements that the county allows, the class can only be offered once a day. That student either goes without that class or makes other compromises in their schedule.

I propose that Lewis be staffed according to the number of attending students + the number of pupil placements out of the school + any supplement they currently get for the high ESOL population. Again, it is no fault of the students attending Lewis that the county is allowing many students to pupil place out. At least some of the extra staff should be dedicated to advanced students (ensuring, for example, that a class like Calculus can be offered more than once a day). If some classes are tiny (small teacher to student ratio), so be it. A low teacher to student ratio might bring back some students. Does this almost seem unfair to other schools? Maybe, but it does seem like the right thing to do. And since nobody seems to want to get rezoned to Lewis, it seems like a fair trade.

The trickiest problem is the language offering disparity. It is too easy for a student to pupil place for a language when the real reason is they are just trying to escape from a school. The only thing I can think of is to settle on a set of standard, popular languages and make the others available online. That is not ideal. But if there is not parity in languages, students will continue to pupil place.

Would West Springfield parents support such changes if it prevented their children from being sent to Lewis? My guess is yes.


This aligns with what some others have been saying for some time. Create a superior carrot and perhaps the talk about a stick goes away.

Ignore the carrot, and your stick may turn out to be a weak twig.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:https://mvonthemove.com/fcps-engages-with-families-from-region-3-on-school-boundary-review/

12/9/24 Region 3 - Edison, West Potomac, Mount Vernon. 300 attendees. Far different than Reid 's orchestration for Region 5. Note Reid + Dunne sticking in a new program only available for West Potomac pyramid rather than changing boundaries. https://mvonthemove.com/bucknell-elementary-decides-to-add-montessori-program-option-after-all/


Am I reading this right in that both community reps come from Mt. Vernon and one of them no longer has kids in school??? Wowwwwww.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://mvonthemove.com/fcps-engages-with-families-from-region-3-on-school-boundary-review/

12/9/24 Region 3 - Edison, West Potomac, Mount Vernon. 300 attendees. Far different than Reid 's orchestration for Region 5. Note Reid + Dunne sticking in a new program only available for West Potomac pyramid rather than changing boundaries. https://mvonthemove.com/bucknell-elementary-decides-to-add-montessori-program-option-after-all/


Am I reading this right in that both community reps come from Mt. Vernon and one of them no longer has kids in school??? Wowwwwww.


Each pyramid has two reps so it appears the Mt. Vernon HS pyramid reps were present at the Region 3 meeting and introduced themselves. That doesn't mean West Potomac and Edison don't have reps as well.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://mvonthemove.com/fcps-engages-with-families-from-region-3-on-school-boundary-review/

12/9/24 Region 3 - Edison, West Potomac, Mount Vernon. 300 attendees. Far different than Reid 's orchestration for Region 5. Note Reid + Dunne sticking in a new program only available for West Potomac pyramid rather than changing boundaries. https://mvonthemove.com/bucknell-elementary-decides-to-add-montessori-program-option-after-all/


Am I reading this right in that both community reps come from Mt. Vernon and one of them no longer has kids in school??? Wowwwwww.


I don’t think either have kids in the schools anymore! Insane. I thought the 2 reps from each pyramid had to be parents or caregivers. And then they added other people from the schools/community groups etc. To not have a single current parent is a disgrace to this process
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://mvonthemove.com/fcps-engages-with-families-from-region-3-on-school-boundary-review/

12/9/24 Region 3 - Edison, West Potomac, Mount Vernon. 300 attendees. Far different than Reid 's orchestration for Region 5. Note Reid + Dunne sticking in a new program only available for West Potomac pyramid rather than changing boundaries. https://mvonthemove.com/bucknell-elementary-decides-to-add-montessori-program-option-after-all/


Am I reading this right in that both community reps come from Mt. Vernon and one of them no longer has kids in school??? Wowwwwww.


Each pyramid has two reps so it appears the Mt. Vernon HS pyramid reps were present at the Region 3 meeting and introduced themselves. That doesn't mean West Potomac and Edison don't have reps as well.


True, maybe they just weren’t at the meeting. But I’m still shocked that one and possibly both(!) no longer have kids in school. Between that and the committee slots for various groups … it’s not giving a high degree of confidence.
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