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How is a boundary change messing with the free market? A perfect market already factors in the possibility that areas on the periphery of a school boundary in a county-wide system may be more susceptible to being rezoned to a less “desirable” school.

Of course, the art is properly calculating that possibility, and perhaps most have understood that there should be compelling reasons to redistrict based on severe overcrowding or under-enrollment. But in that case your stronger argument is that those conditions do not currently exist, not that FCPS is interfering with a free housing market. You are still completely free to buy and sell properties at market terms.


Please show me a real estate listing in Fairfax that mentions that caveat.

When a neighborhood is decades old and has been assigned to the same school since its existence, one can jump to the conclusion that it is "safe from redistricting." That is, unless it has UMC kids. Then, the SB eyes it with glee..


Absolutely. +100. Even now, unsuspecting families are buying homes in the school board’s crosshairs in part because they are advertising the sought after school districts in the mls listings.

All these caveat emptor posters really are something else.


Ethically, realtors and real estate listings are actually not able to speak to purported school performance – but the scores are allowed into the listings via Great Schools and people can read into that what they wish. Realtors and the actual listings have to be very objective, otherwise they can be violating Fair Housing laws.



Right, and the equity warriors clamor that the buyers should just magically know they are buying into boundary changes. Really bizarre.


What do you mean by equity warrior? Genuinely curious because people keep throwing that saying around on this forum. Some things need to change as the burgeoning population of FFX County has caused issues. But no, don't think anybody is saying they should magically know....moreso saying, sucks for you. As another poster said, individual family problems are their own.


PP just uses "equity warrior" to refer to anyone who challenges the notion that they have a right in perpetuity to attend Langley High School.


Just haven’t heard any compelling reason to redistrict, and even the capacity issues (Fcps doesn’t really factor in residential development so garbage in garbage out on this front) and transportation (commutes less than an hour don’t hurt sleep time or academics according to the Fcps study and negative transportation savings from grandfathering). The only thing left is equity. And that’s all we hear you incessantly carry on about.

Equity isn’t the only thing left! There are still a lot of split feeders and attendance islands that haven’t been addressed. A popular sentiment is not breaking up friend groups, right?


Fair. Way less offensive than some of the oft discussed changes in this thread. Probably would prove a lot less divisive too, though I’m not sure if that would result in any of the split feeders or attendance islands getting redistricted to a poorer performing school.


That just underscores how you are focused only on maintaining the Langley pyramid as currently constituted.

The elimination of split feeders and attendance islands could result in many situations where students were redistricted to a "poorer performing school" (i.e., a school ranked lower or with lower average SAT scores). The families that are potentially affected are just not coming on here every day and alleging that any such moves could only be the result of "equity warriors."

Examples would include making Carson feed exclusively to Westfield, making Timber Lane feed exclusively to Falls Church, making Rolling Valley feed exclusively to Lewis, or reassigning the Sangster island to South County.


Reaasigning the Sangster island to South County is not closing a split feeder. It is making an existing split feeder worse.

Closing the Sangster split feeder would involve rezoning it to Lake Braddock with the rest of the school, which is an equal swap with WSHS and keeps that Sangster neighborhood in the same general community, while not affecting housing values one dollar either way.



Sangster should definitely all go to Lake Braddock. However, the Sangster island should be eliminated. Those kids should attend South County and Newington Forest.

They won't touch Rolling Valley because it literally abuts WSHS. If anything, they will allow it all to go to WSHS. South of parkway homes attending Hunt Valley are in jeopardy of getting sent to Saratoga and Lewis. That would free up space at Hunt Valley for Orange Hunt kids.


Lewis is nearly twice as far away than South County high school for the HV neighborhoods south of the Parkway. South County is also under enrolled by a similar percentage as Lewis.


Saratoga Elementary school is more than twice the distance (3.9 miles) to the Gambrill neighbohoods of Vogell's Way according to google maps.

Hunt Valley is just on the edge of the walk zone (1.4 miles) using the same Vogel's Way starting point.

South county and WSHS are also both much closer to the Gambril neighborhoods than Lewis, which is at least double the time and distance.


Nope. Sorry. Never a walk zone. Stop using distance for an excuse. Those kids are on a bus.
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How is a boundary change messing with the free market? A perfect market already factors in the possibility that areas on the periphery of a school boundary in a county-wide system may be more susceptible to being rezoned to a less “desirable” school.

Of course, the art is properly calculating that possibility, and perhaps most have understood that there should be compelling reasons to redistrict based on severe overcrowding or under-enrollment. But in that case your stronger argument is that those conditions do not currently exist, not that FCPS is interfering with a free housing market. You are still completely free to buy and sell properties at market terms.


Please show me a real estate listing in Fairfax that mentions that caveat.

When a neighborhood is decades old and has been assigned to the same school since its existence, one can jump to the conclusion that it is "safe from redistricting." That is, unless it has UMC kids. Then, the SB eyes it with glee..


Absolutely. +100. Even now, unsuspecting families are buying homes in the school board’s crosshairs in part because they are advertising the sought after school districts in the mls listings.

All these caveat emptor posters really are something else.


Ethically, realtors and real estate listings are actually not able to speak to purported school performance – but the scores are allowed into the listings via Great Schools and people can read into that what they wish. Realtors and the actual listings have to be very objective, otherwise they can be violating Fair Housing laws.



Right, and the equity warriors clamor that the buyers should just magically know they are buying into boundary changes. Really bizarre.


What do you mean by equity warrior? Genuinely curious because people keep throwing that saying around on this forum. Some things need to change as the burgeoning population of FFX County has caused issues. But no, don't think anybody is saying they should magically know....moreso saying, sucks for you. As another poster said, individual family problems are their own.


PP just uses "equity warrior" to refer to anyone who challenges the notion that they have a right in perpetuity to attend Langley High School.


Just haven’t heard any compelling reason to redistrict, and even the capacity issues (Fcps doesn’t really factor in residential development so garbage in garbage out on this front) and transportation (commutes less than an hour don’t hurt sleep time or academics according to the Fcps study and negative transportation savings from grandfathering). The only thing left is equity. And that’s all we hear you incessantly carry on about.

Equity isn’t the only thing left! There are still a lot of split feeders and attendance islands that haven’t been addressed. A popular sentiment is not breaking up friend groups, right?


Fair. Way less offensive than some of the oft discussed changes in this thread. Probably would prove a lot less divisive too, though I’m not sure if that would result in any of the split feeders or attendance islands getting redistricted to a poorer performing school.


That just underscores how you are focused only on maintaining the Langley pyramid as currently constituted.

The elimination of split feeders and attendance islands could result in many situations where students were redistricted to a "poorer performing school" (i.e., a school ranked lower or with lower average SAT scores). The families that are potentially affected are just not coming on here every day and alleging that any such moves could only be the result of "equity warriors."

Examples would include making Carson feed exclusively to Westfield, making Timber Lane feed exclusively to Falls Church, making Rolling Valley feed exclusively to Lewis, or reassigning the Sangster island to South County.


Reaasigning the Sangster island to South County is not closing a split feeder. It is making an existing split feeder worse.

Closing the Sangster split feeder would involve rezoning it to Lake Braddock with the rest of the school, which is an equal swap with WSHS and keeps that Sangster neighborhood in the same general community, while not affecting housing values one dollar either way.



Sangster should definitely all go to Lake Braddock. However, the Sangster island should be eliminated. Those kids should attend South County and Newington Forest.

They won't touch Rolling Valley because it literally abuts WSHS. If anything, they will allow it all to go to WSHS. South of parkway homes attending Hunt Valley are in jeopardy of getting sent to Saratoga and Lewis. That would free up space at Hunt Valley for Orange Hunt kids.


Clearly you are unfamiliar with the area.

The Sangster attendance island is the neighborhood that Sangster actually sits in. It is the walk zone for Sangster elementary.

And when I say walk zone, I literally mean walk zone. Many of those families are so close to Sangster that they walk out the door, cross the street and walk into Sangster.

Suggesting that FCPS sends the Sangster attendance island to Newington Forest is just laughable and shows zero understanding of the neighborhoods in that area.



You seem to be referring to the part of Sangster that attends West Springfield as the "Sangster attendance island," but the rest of us are referring to the small area zoned for Sangster that is neither the neighborhood where Sangster sits or contiguous to the rest of the Sangster attendance area.


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I'm talking about the homes near St. Raymond.
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How is a boundary change messing with the free market? A perfect market already factors in the possibility that areas on the periphery of a school boundary in a county-wide system may be more susceptible to being rezoned to a less “desirable” school.

Of course, the art is properly calculating that possibility, and perhaps most have understood that there should be compelling reasons to redistrict based on severe overcrowding or under-enrollment. But in that case your stronger argument is that those conditions do not currently exist, not that FCPS is interfering with a free housing market. You are still completely free to buy and sell properties at market terms.


Please show me a real estate listing in Fairfax that mentions that caveat.

When a neighborhood is decades old and has been assigned to the same school since its existence, one can jump to the conclusion that it is "safe from redistricting." That is, unless it has UMC kids. Then, the SB eyes it with glee..


Absolutely. +100. Even now, unsuspecting families are buying homes in the school board’s crosshairs in part because they are advertising the sought after school districts in the mls listings.

All these caveat emptor posters really are something else.


Ethically, realtors and real estate listings are actually not able to speak to purported school performance – but the scores are allowed into the listings via Great Schools and people can read into that what they wish. Realtors and the actual listings have to be very objective, otherwise they can be violating Fair Housing laws.



Right, and the equity warriors clamor that the buyers should just magically know they are buying into boundary changes. Really bizarre.


What do you mean by equity warrior? Genuinely curious because people keep throwing that saying around on this forum. Some things need to change as the burgeoning population of FFX County has caused issues. But no, don't think anybody is saying they should magically know....moreso saying, sucks for you. As another poster said, individual family problems are their own.


PP just uses "equity warrior" to refer to anyone who challenges the notion that they have a right in perpetuity to attend Langley High School.


Just haven’t heard any compelling reason to redistrict, and even the capacity issues (Fcps doesn’t really factor in residential development so garbage in garbage out on this front) and transportation (commutes less than an hour don’t hurt sleep time or academics according to the Fcps study and negative transportation savings from grandfathering). The only thing left is equity. And that’s all we hear you incessantly carry on about.

Equity isn’t the only thing left! There are still a lot of split feeders and attendance islands that haven’t been addressed. A popular sentiment is not breaking up friend groups, right?


Fair. Way less offensive than some of the oft discussed changes in this thread. Probably would prove a lot less divisive too, though I’m not sure if that would result in any of the split feeders or attendance islands getting redistricted to a poorer performing school.


That just underscores how you are focused only on maintaining the Langley pyramid as currently constituted.

The elimination of split feeders and attendance islands could result in many situations where students were redistricted to a "poorer performing school" (i.e., a school ranked lower or with lower average SAT scores). The families that are potentially affected are just not coming on here every day and alleging that any such moves could only be the result of "equity warriors."

Examples would include making Carson feed exclusively to Westfield, making Timber Lane feed exclusively to Falls Church, making Rolling Valley feed exclusively to Lewis, or reassigning the Sangster island to South County.


Reaasigning the Sangster island to South County is not closing a split feeder. It is making an existing split feeder worse.

Closing the Sangster split feeder would involve rezoning it to Lake Braddock with the rest of the school, which is an equal swap with WSHS and keeps that Sangster neighborhood in the same general community, while not affecting housing values one dollar either way.



Sangster should definitely all go to Lake Braddock. However, the Sangster island should be eliminated. Those kids should attend South County and Newington Forest.

They won't touch Rolling Valley because it literally abuts WSHS. If anything, they will allow it all to go to WSHS. South of parkway homes attending Hunt Valley are in jeopardy of getting sent to Saratoga and Lewis. That would free up space at Hunt Valley for Orange Hunt kids.


Clearly you are unfamiliar with the area.

The Sangster attendance island is the neighborhood that Sangster actually sits in. It is the walk zone for Sangster elementary.

And when I say walk zone, I literally mean walk zone. Many of those families are so close to Sangster that they walk out the door, cross the street and walk into Sangster.

Suggesting that FCPS sends the Sangster attendance island to Newington Forest is just laughable and shows zero understanding of the neighborhoods in that area.



You seem to be referring to the part of Sangster that attends West Springfield as the "Sangster attendance island," but the rest of us are referring to the small area zoned for Sangster that is neither the neighborhood where Sangster sits or contiguous to the rest of the Sangster attendance area.


That is not an attendance island.

That is a tentacle that is connected to the other lake braddock neighborhoods along the parkway. That area behind the Catholic church connects to the other LB neighborhoods and already attends their pyramid middle and high school of Lake Braddock.

Anyone from the neighborhood knows that the Sangster attendance island means the immediate Sangster neighbohood, not the contiguous neighborhoods along the parkway that are minutes from Sangster elementary and connected geographically to the rest of the LB community.
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How is a boundary change messing with the free market? A perfect market already factors in the possibility that areas on the periphery of a school boundary in a county-wide system may be more susceptible to being rezoned to a less “desirable” school.

Of course, the art is properly calculating that possibility, and perhaps most have understood that there should be compelling reasons to redistrict based on severe overcrowding or under-enrollment. But in that case your stronger argument is that those conditions do not currently exist, not that FCPS is interfering with a free housing market. You are still completely free to buy and sell properties at market terms.


Please show me a real estate listing in Fairfax that mentions that caveat.

When a neighborhood is decades old and has been assigned to the same school since its existence, one can jump to the conclusion that it is "safe from redistricting." That is, unless it has UMC kids. Then, the SB eyes it with glee..


Absolutely. +100. Even now, unsuspecting families are buying homes in the school board’s crosshairs in part because they are advertising the sought after school districts in the mls listings.

All these caveat emptor posters really are something else.


Ethically, realtors and real estate listings are actually not able to speak to purported school performance – but the scores are allowed into the listings via Great Schools and people can read into that what they wish. Realtors and the actual listings have to be very objective, otherwise they can be violating Fair Housing laws.



Right, and the equity warriors clamor that the buyers should just magically know they are buying into boundary changes. Really bizarre.


What do you mean by equity warrior? Genuinely curious because people keep throwing that saying around on this forum. Some things need to change as the burgeoning population of FFX County has caused issues. But no, don't think anybody is saying they should magically know....moreso saying, sucks for you. As another poster said, individual family problems are their own.


PP just uses "equity warrior" to refer to anyone who challenges the notion that they have a right in perpetuity to attend Langley High School.


Just haven’t heard any compelling reason to redistrict, and even the capacity issues (Fcps doesn’t really factor in residential development so garbage in garbage out on this front) and transportation (commutes less than an hour don’t hurt sleep time or academics according to the Fcps study and negative transportation savings from grandfathering). The only thing left is equity. And that’s all we hear you incessantly carry on about.

Equity isn’t the only thing left! There are still a lot of split feeders and attendance islands that haven’t been addressed. A popular sentiment is not breaking up friend groups, right?


Fair. Way less offensive than some of the oft discussed changes in this thread. Probably would prove a lot less divisive too, though I’m not sure if that would result in any of the split feeders or attendance islands getting redistricted to a poorer performing school.


That just underscores how you are focused only on maintaining the Langley pyramid as currently constituted.

The elimination of split feeders and attendance islands could result in many situations where students were redistricted to a "poorer performing school" (i.e., a school ranked lower or with lower average SAT scores). The families that are potentially affected are just not coming on here every day and alleging that any such moves could only be the result of "equity warriors."

Examples would include making Carson feed exclusively to Westfield, making Timber Lane feed exclusively to Falls Church, making Rolling Valley feed exclusively to Lewis, or reassigning the Sangster island to South County.


Reaasigning the Sangster island to South County is not closing a split feeder. It is making an existing split feeder worse.

Closing the Sangster split feeder would involve rezoning it to Lake Braddock with the rest of the school, which is an equal swap with WSHS and keeps that Sangster neighborhood in the same general community, while not affecting housing values one dollar either way.



Sangster should definitely all go to Lake Braddock. However, the Sangster island should be eliminated. Those kids should attend South County and Newington Forest.

They won't touch Rolling Valley because it literally abuts WSHS. If anything, they will allow it all to go to WSHS. South of parkway homes attending Hunt Valley are in jeopardy of getting sent to Saratoga and Lewis. That would free up space at Hunt Valley for Orange Hunt kids.


Lewis is nearly twice as far away than South County high school for the HV neighborhoods south of the Parkway. South County is also under enrolled by a similar percentage as Lewis.


Saratoga Elementary school is more than twice the distance (3.9 miles) to the Gambrill neighbohoods of Vogell's Way according to google maps.

Hunt Valley is just on the edge of the walk zone (1.4 miles) using the same Vogel's Way starting point.

South county and WSHS are also both much closer to the Gambril neighborhoods than Lewis, which is at least double the time and distance.


Nope. Sorry. Never a walk zone. Stop using distance for an excuse. Those kids are on a bus.


1.4 miles is the edge of the walk zone.

Those kids do ride a bus but they are right at that point on the edge of the 1.5 mile
FCPS walk zone.
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FCPS needs to be transparent about the remaining elementary schools without AAP.

I don't see how they can talk about boundaries without that data given to the public.

And if all elementary schools will have AAP in fall of 2026/2027, does that imply no more centers?
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How is a boundary change messing with the free market? A perfect market already factors in the possibility that areas on the periphery of a school boundary in a county-wide system may be more susceptible to being rezoned to a less “desirable” school.

Of course, the art is properly calculating that possibility, and perhaps most have understood that there should be compelling reasons to redistrict based on severe overcrowding or under-enrollment. But in that case your stronger argument is that those conditions do not currently exist, not that FCPS is interfering with a free housing market. You are still completely free to buy and sell properties at market terms.


Please show me a real estate listing in Fairfax that mentions that caveat.

When a neighborhood is decades old and has been assigned to the same school since its existence, one can jump to the conclusion that it is "safe from redistricting." That is, unless it has UMC kids. Then, the SB eyes it with glee..


Absolutely. +100. Even now, unsuspecting families are buying homes in the school board’s crosshairs in part because they are advertising the sought after school districts in the mls listings.

All these caveat emptor posters really are something else.


Ethically, realtors and real estate listings are actually not able to speak to purported school performance – but the scores are allowed into the listings via Great Schools and people can read into that what they wish. Realtors and the actual listings have to be very objective, otherwise they can be violating Fair Housing laws.



Right, and the equity warriors clamor that the buyers should just magically know they are buying into boundary changes. Really bizarre.


What do you mean by equity warrior? Genuinely curious because people keep throwing that saying around on this forum. Some things need to change as the burgeoning population of FFX County has caused issues. But no, don't think anybody is saying they should magically know....moreso saying, sucks for you. As another poster said, individual family problems are their own.


PP just uses "equity warrior" to refer to anyone who challenges the notion that they have a right in perpetuity to attend Langley High School.


Just haven’t heard any compelling reason to redistrict, and even the capacity issues (Fcps doesn’t really factor in residential development so garbage in garbage out on this front) and transportation (commutes less than an hour don’t hurt sleep time or academics according to the Fcps study and negative transportation savings from grandfathering). The only thing left is equity. And that’s all we hear you incessantly carry on about.

Equity isn’t the only thing left! There are still a lot of split feeders and attendance islands that haven’t been addressed. A popular sentiment is not breaking up friend groups, right?


Fair. Way less offensive than some of the oft discussed changes in this thread. Probably would prove a lot less divisive too, though I’m not sure if that would result in any of the split feeders or attendance islands getting redistricted to a poorer performing school.


That just underscores how you are focused only on maintaining the Langley pyramid as currently constituted.

The elimination of split feeders and attendance islands could result in many situations where students were redistricted to a "poorer performing school" (i.e., a school ranked lower or with lower average SAT scores). The families that are potentially affected are just not coming on here every day and alleging that any such moves could only be the result of "equity warriors."

Examples would include making Carson feed exclusively to Westfield, making Timber Lane feed exclusively to Falls Church, making Rolling Valley feed exclusively to Lewis, or reassigning the Sangster island to South County.


Reaasigning the Sangster island to South County is not closing a split feeder. It is making an existing split feeder worse.

Closing the Sangster split feeder would involve rezoning it to Lake Braddock with the rest of the school, which is an equal swap with WSHS and keeps that Sangster neighborhood in the same general community, while not affecting housing values one dollar either way.



Sangster should definitely all go to Lake Braddock. However, the Sangster island should be eliminated. Those kids should attend South County and Newington Forest.

They won't touch Rolling Valley because it literally abuts WSHS. If anything, they will allow it all to go to WSHS. South of parkway homes attending Hunt Valley are in jeopardy of getting sent to Saratoga and Lewis. That would free up space at Hunt Valley for Orange Hunt kids.


Lewis is nearly twice as far away than South County high school for the HV neighborhoods south of the Parkway. South County is also under enrolled by a similar percentage as Lewis.


Saratoga Elementary school is more than twice the distance (3.9 miles) to the Gambrill neighbohoods of Vogell's Way according to google maps.

Hunt Valley is just on the edge of the walk zone (1.4 miles) using the same Vogel's Way starting point.

South county and WSHS are also both much closer to the Gambril neighborhoods than Lewis, which is at least double the time and distance.


Nope. Sorry. Never a walk zone. Stop using distance for an excuse. Those kids are on a bus.


1.4 miles is the edge of the walk zone.

Those kids do ride a bus but they are right at that point on the edge of the 1.5 mile
FCPS walk zone.


Doesn't matter. Distance doesn't matter to FCPS. A bus is a bus. They will view that area as a transportation need and they won't care which school they send them to.
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How is a boundary change messing with the free market? A perfect market already factors in the possibility that areas on the periphery of a school boundary in a county-wide system may be more susceptible to being rezoned to a less “desirable” school.

Of course, the art is properly calculating that possibility, and perhaps most have understood that there should be compelling reasons to redistrict based on severe overcrowding or under-enrollment. But in that case your stronger argument is that those conditions do not currently exist, not that FCPS is interfering with a free housing market. You are still completely free to buy and sell properties at market terms.


Please show me a real estate listing in Fairfax that mentions that caveat.

When a neighborhood is decades old and has been assigned to the same school since its existence, one can jump to the conclusion that it is "safe from redistricting." That is, unless it has UMC kids. Then, the SB eyes it with glee..


Absolutely. +100. Even now, unsuspecting families are buying homes in the school board’s crosshairs in part because they are advertising the sought after school districts in the mls listings.

All these caveat emptor posters really are something else.


Ethically, realtors and real estate listings are actually not able to speak to purported school performance – but the scores are allowed into the listings via Great Schools and people can read into that what they wish. Realtors and the actual listings have to be very objective, otherwise they can be violating Fair Housing laws.



Right, and the equity warriors clamor that the buyers should just magically know they are buying into boundary changes. Really bizarre.


What do you mean by equity warrior? Genuinely curious because people keep throwing that saying around on this forum. Some things need to change as the burgeoning population of FFX County has caused issues. But no, don't think anybody is saying they should magically know....moreso saying, sucks for you. As another poster said, individual family problems are their own.


PP just uses "equity warrior" to refer to anyone who challenges the notion that they have a right in perpetuity to attend Langley High School.


Just haven’t heard any compelling reason to redistrict, and even the capacity issues (Fcps doesn’t really factor in residential development so garbage in garbage out on this front) and transportation (commutes less than an hour don’t hurt sleep time or academics according to the Fcps study and negative transportation savings from grandfathering). The only thing left is equity. And that’s all we hear you incessantly carry on about.

Equity isn’t the only thing left! There are still a lot of split feeders and attendance islands that haven’t been addressed. A popular sentiment is not breaking up friend groups, right?


Fair. Way less offensive than some of the oft discussed changes in this thread. Probably would prove a lot less divisive too, though I’m not sure if that would result in any of the split feeders or attendance islands getting redistricted to a poorer performing school.


That just underscores how you are focused only on maintaining the Langley pyramid as currently constituted.

The elimination of split feeders and attendance islands could result in many situations where students were redistricted to a "poorer performing school" (i.e., a school ranked lower or with lower average SAT scores). The families that are potentially affected are just not coming on here every day and alleging that any such moves could only be the result of "equity warriors."

Examples would include making Carson feed exclusively to Westfield, making Timber Lane feed exclusively to Falls Church, making Rolling Valley feed exclusively to Lewis, or reassigning the Sangster island to South County.


Reaasigning the Sangster island to South County is not closing a split feeder. It is making an existing split feeder worse.

Closing the Sangster split feeder would involve rezoning it to Lake Braddock with the rest of the school, which is an equal swap with WSHS and keeps that Sangster neighborhood in the same general community, while not affecting housing values one dollar either way.



Sangster should definitely all go to Lake Braddock. However, the Sangster island should be eliminated. Those kids should attend South County and Newington Forest.

They won't touch Rolling Valley because it literally abuts WSHS. If anything, they will allow it all to go to WSHS. South of parkway homes attending Hunt Valley are in jeopardy of getting sent to Saratoga and Lewis. That would free up space at Hunt Valley for Orange Hunt kids.


Clearly you are unfamiliar with the area.

The Sangster attendance island is the neighborhood that Sangster actually sits in. It is the walk zone for Sangster elementary.

And when I say walk zone, I literally mean walk zone. Many of those families are so close to Sangster that they walk out the door, cross the street and walk into Sangster.

Suggesting that FCPS sends the Sangster attendance island to Newington Forest is just laughable and shows zero understanding of the neighborhoods in that area.



You seem to be referring to the part of Sangster that attends West Springfield as the "Sangster attendance island," but the rest of us are referring to the small area zoned for Sangster that is neither the neighborhood where Sangster sits or contiguous to the rest of the Sangster attendance area.


That is not an attendance island.

That is a tentacle that is connected to the other lake braddock neighborhoods along the parkway. That area behind the Catholic church connects to the other LB neighborhoods and already attends their pyramid middle and high school of Lake Braddock.

Anyone from the neighborhood knows that the Sangster attendance island means the immediate Sangster neighbohood, not the contiguous neighborhoods along the parkway that are minutes from Sangster elementary and connected geographically to the rest of the LB community.


Either way, Sangster should attend Lake Braddock and the area near St. Raymond should attend South County. Sangster needs relief as well. Maybe they will shift some kids to Cherry Run?
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How is a boundary change messing with the free market? A perfect market already factors in the possibility that areas on the periphery of a school boundary in a county-wide system may be more susceptible to being rezoned to a less “desirable” school.

Of course, the art is properly calculating that possibility, and perhaps most have understood that there should be compelling reasons to redistrict based on severe overcrowding or under-enrollment. But in that case your stronger argument is that those conditions do not currently exist, not that FCPS is interfering with a free housing market. You are still completely free to buy and sell properties at market terms.


Please show me a real estate listing in Fairfax that mentions that caveat.

When a neighborhood is decades old and has been assigned to the same school since its existence, one can jump to the conclusion that it is "safe from redistricting." That is, unless it has UMC kids. Then, the SB eyes it with glee..


Absolutely. +100. Even now, unsuspecting families are buying homes in the school board’s crosshairs in part because they are advertising the sought after school districts in the mls listings.

All these caveat emptor posters really are something else.


Ethically, realtors and real estate listings are actually not able to speak to purported school performance – but the scores are allowed into the listings via Great Schools and people can read into that what they wish. Realtors and the actual listings have to be very objective, otherwise they can be violating Fair Housing laws.



Right, and the equity warriors clamor that the buyers should just magically know they are buying into boundary changes. Really bizarre.


What do you mean by equity warrior? Genuinely curious because people keep throwing that saying around on this forum. Some things need to change as the burgeoning population of FFX County has caused issues. But no, don't think anybody is saying they should magically know....moreso saying, sucks for you. As another poster said, individual family problems are their own.


PP just uses "equity warrior" to refer to anyone who challenges the notion that they have a right in perpetuity to attend Langley High School.


Just haven’t heard any compelling reason to redistrict, and even the capacity issues (Fcps doesn’t really factor in residential development so garbage in garbage out on this front) and transportation (commutes less than an hour don’t hurt sleep time or academics according to the Fcps study and negative transportation savings from grandfathering). The only thing left is equity. And that’s all we hear you incessantly carry on about.

Equity isn’t the only thing left! There are still a lot of split feeders and attendance islands that haven’t been addressed. A popular sentiment is not breaking up friend groups, right?


Fair. Way less offensive than some of the oft discussed changes in this thread. Probably would prove a lot less divisive too, though I’m not sure if that would result in any of the split feeders or attendance islands getting redistricted to a poorer performing school.


That just underscores how you are focused only on maintaining the Langley pyramid as currently constituted.

The elimination of split feeders and attendance islands could result in many situations where students were redistricted to a "poorer performing school" (i.e., a school ranked lower or with lower average SAT scores). The families that are potentially affected are just not coming on here every day and alleging that any such moves could only be the result of "equity warriors."

Examples would include making Carson feed exclusively to Westfield, making Timber Lane feed exclusively to Falls Church, making Rolling Valley feed exclusively to Lewis, or reassigning the Sangster island to South County.


Reaasigning the Sangster island to South County is not closing a split feeder. It is making an existing split feeder worse.

Closing the Sangster split feeder would involve rezoning it to Lake Braddock with the rest of the school, which is an equal swap with WSHS and keeps that Sangster neighborhood in the same general community, while not affecting housing values one dollar either way.



Sangster should definitely all go to Lake Braddock. However, the Sangster island should be eliminated. Those kids should attend South County and Newington Forest.

They won't touch Rolling Valley because it literally abuts WSHS. If anything, they will allow it all to go to WSHS. South of parkway homes attending Hunt Valley are in jeopardy of getting sent to Saratoga and Lewis. That would free up space at Hunt Valley for Orange Hunt kids.


Clearly you are unfamiliar with the area.

The Sangster attendance island is the neighborhood that Sangster actually sits in. It is the walk zone for Sangster elementary.

And when I say walk zone, I literally mean walk zone. Many of those families are so close to Sangster that they walk out the door, cross the street and walk into Sangster.

Suggesting that FCPS sends the Sangster attendance island to Newington Forest is just laughable and shows zero understanding of the neighborhoods in that area.



You seem to be referring to the part of Sangster that attends West Springfield as the "Sangster attendance island," but the rest of us are referring to the small area zoned for Sangster that is neither the neighborhood where Sangster sits or contiguous to the rest of the Sangster attendance area.


That is not an attendance island.

That is a tentacle that is connected to the other lake braddock neighborhoods along the parkway. That area behind the Catholic church connects to the other LB neighborhoods and already attends their pyramid middle and high school of Lake Braddock.

Anyone from the neighborhood knows that the Sangster attendance island means the immediate Sangster neighbohood, not the contiguous neighborhoods along the parkway that are minutes from Sangster elementary and connected geographically to the rest of the LB community.


It’s an attendance island according to FCPS. And when they use that term with respect to Sangster they are not talking about the area that feeds to WS rather than Lake Braddock. The latter is what makes it a “split feeder.”

Period.
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Anonymous wrote:FCPS needs to be transparent about the remaining elementary schools without AAP.

I don't see how they can talk about boundaries without that data given to the public.

And if all elementary schools will have AAP in fall of 2026/2027, does that imply no more centers?


Very important to resolve and then address transparently for both ES and MS.
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How is a boundary change messing with the free market? A perfect market already factors in the possibility that areas on the periphery of a school boundary in a county-wide system may be more susceptible to being rezoned to a less “desirable” school.

Of course, the art is properly calculating that possibility, and perhaps most have understood that there should be compelling reasons to redistrict based on severe overcrowding or under-enrollment. But in that case your stronger argument is that those conditions do not currently exist, not that FCPS is interfering with a free housing market. You are still completely free to buy and sell properties at market terms.


Please show me a real estate listing in Fairfax that mentions that caveat.

When a neighborhood is decades old and has been assigned to the same school since its existence, one can jump to the conclusion that it is "safe from redistricting." That is, unless it has UMC kids. Then, the SB eyes it with glee..


Absolutely. +100. Even now, unsuspecting families are buying homes in the school board’s crosshairs in part because they are advertising the sought after school districts in the mls listings.

All these caveat emptor posters really are something else.


Ethically, realtors and real estate listings are actually not able to speak to purported school performance – but the scores are allowed into the listings via Great Schools and people can read into that what they wish. Realtors and the actual listings have to be very objective, otherwise they can be violating Fair Housing laws.



People home shopping can just take the home address, plug it into FCPS boundary locator, and the school pops up.

They then just go to the school profile to get information about the school such as free lunch or ESOL stats.

Then, they go to the state of Virginia website with the school names, and get the accreditation info.

Great schools in convenient, but completely unnecessary to research before you buy.


Right, just not seeing how this process keys potential buyers into the very real redistricting threat, as the sb shills like to parrots.


As a threshold matter, a buyer in Fairfax County, should understand they are buying in a county that operates a county-wide school system, not a town-based one like in much of New England or the Mid-Atlantic.

Then, if they are checking out the specific assigned schools, the FCPS boundary locator states prominently "Please note that school boundaries may be adjusted by the School Board. FCPS provides no guarantee that any residential address will continually be served by the same elementary, middle, and/or high school(s) or AAP center(s)."

If they were to look at boundary maps, whether on the FCPS web site or real estate sites like Redfin, they can aksi see whether a house is on the periphery of a school boundary or close to the school.

None of this provides a roadmap as to whether a neighborhood will, in fact, be redistricted, but it provides enough information to put people on notice that their school assignments may change. That information, in turn, is reflected more generally in the prices for properties in a neighborhood. If the boundaries do change, it is not quite the bait-and-switch that posters who don't want to be redistricted (and we all get that, as people rarely want to be redistricted) are claiming it is.


LOL. It’s stated in obscure boiler plate language on a superfluous webpage that there is a possibility of boundary changes, a website that a potential purchaser wouldn’t need to go to (and likely wouldn’t visit) because the info is available on Zillow or Redfin, and that somehow puts the purchase on notice?

Did i get that right? How absurd.
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How is a boundary change messing with the free market? A perfect market already factors in the possibility that areas on the periphery of a school boundary in a county-wide system may be more susceptible to being rezoned to a less “desirable” school.

Of course, the art is properly calculating that possibility, and perhaps most have understood that there should be compelling reasons to redistrict based on severe overcrowding or under-enrollment. But in that case your stronger argument is that those conditions do not currently exist, not that FCPS is interfering with a free housing market. You are still completely free to buy and sell properties at market terms.


Please show me a real estate listing in Fairfax that mentions that caveat.

When a neighborhood is decades old and has been assigned to the same school since its existence, one can jump to the conclusion that it is "safe from redistricting." That is, unless it has UMC kids. Then, the SB eyes it with glee..


Absolutely. +100. Even now, unsuspecting families are buying homes in the school board’s crosshairs in part because they are advertising the sought after school districts in the mls listings.

All these caveat emptor posters really are something else.


Ethically, realtors and real estate listings are actually not able to speak to purported school performance – but the scores are allowed into the listings via Great Schools and people can read into that what they wish. Realtors and the actual listings have to be very objective, otherwise they can be violating Fair Housing laws.



People home shopping can just take the home address, plug it into FCPS boundary locator, and the school pops up.

They then just go to the school profile to get information about the school such as free lunch or ESOL stats.

Then, they go to the state of Virginia website with the school names, and get the accreditation info.

Great schools in convenient, but completely unnecessary to research before you buy.


Right, just not seeing how this process keys potential buyers into the very real redistricting threat, as the sb shills like to parrots.


As a threshold matter, a buyer in Fairfax County, should understand they are buying in a county that operates a county-wide school system, not a town-based one like in much of New England or the Mid-Atlantic.

Then, if they are checking out the specific assigned schools, the FCPS boundary locator states prominently "Please note that school boundaries may be adjusted by the School Board. FCPS provides no guarantee that any residential address will continually be served by the same elementary, middle, and/or high school(s) or AAP center(s)."

If they were to look at boundary maps, whether on the FCPS web site or real estate sites like Redfin, they can aksi see whether a house is on the periphery of a school boundary or close to the school.

None of this provides a roadmap as to whether a neighborhood will, in fact, be redistricted, but it provides enough information to put people on notice that their school assignments may change. That information, in turn, is reflected more generally in the prices for properties in a neighborhood. If the boundaries do change, it is not quite the bait-and-switch that posters who don't want to be redistricted (and we all get that, as people rarely want to be redistricted) are claiming it is.


LOL. It’s stated in obscure boiler plate language on a superfluous webpage that there is a possibility of boundary changes, a website that a potential purchaser wouldn’t need to go to (and likely wouldn’t visit) because the info is available on Zillow or Redfin, and that somehow puts the purchase on notice?

Did i get that right? How absurd.


The more excuses you make for your own stupidity, the more you make the case that you are very dumb, incredibly entitled, or both.
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How is a boundary change messing with the free market? A perfect market already factors in the possibility that areas on the periphery of a school boundary in a county-wide system may be more susceptible to being rezoned to a less “desirable” school.

Of course, the art is properly calculating that possibility, and perhaps most have understood that there should be compelling reasons to redistrict based on severe overcrowding or under-enrollment. But in that case your stronger argument is that those conditions do not currently exist, not that FCPS is interfering with a free housing market. You are still completely free to buy and sell properties at market terms.


Please show me a real estate listing in Fairfax that mentions that caveat.

When a neighborhood is decades old and has been assigned to the same school since its existence, one can jump to the conclusion that it is "safe from redistricting." That is, unless it has UMC kids. Then, the SB eyes it with glee..


Absolutely. +100. Even now, unsuspecting families are buying homes in the school board’s crosshairs in part because they are advertising the sought after school districts in the mls listings.

All these caveat emptor posters really are something else.


Ethically, realtors and real estate listings are actually not able to speak to purported school performance – but the scores are allowed into the listings via Great Schools and people can read into that what they wish. Realtors and the actual listings have to be very objective, otherwise they can be violating Fair Housing laws.



People home shopping can just take the home address, plug it into FCPS boundary locator, and the school pops up.

They then just go to the school profile to get information about the school such as free lunch or ESOL stats.

Then, they go to the state of Virginia website with the school names, and get the accreditation info.

Great schools in convenient, but completely unnecessary to research before you buy.


Right, just not seeing how this process keys potential buyers into the very real redistricting threat, as the sb shills like to parrots.


As a threshold matter, a buyer in Fairfax County, should understand they are buying in a county that operates a county-wide school system, not a town-based one like in much of New England or the Mid-Atlantic.

Then, if they are checking out the specific assigned schools, the FCPS boundary locator states prominently "Please note that school boundaries may be adjusted by the School Board. FCPS provides no guarantee that any residential address will continually be served by the same elementary, middle, and/or high school(s) or AAP center(s)."

If they were to look at boundary maps, whether on the FCPS web site or real estate sites like Redfin, they can aksi see whether a house is on the periphery of a school boundary or close to the school.

None of this provides a roadmap as to whether a neighborhood will, in fact, be redistricted, but it provides enough information to put people on notice that their school assignments may change. That information, in turn, is reflected more generally in the prices for properties in a neighborhood. If the boundaries do change, it is not quite the bait-and-switch that posters who don't want to be redistricted (and we all get that, as people rarely want to be redistricted) are claiming it is.


LOL. It’s stated in obscure boiler plate language on a superfluous webpage that there is a possibility of boundary changes, a website that a potential purchaser wouldn’t need to go to (and likely wouldn’t visit) because the info is available on Zillow or Redfin, and that somehow puts the purchase on notice?

Did i get that right? How absurd.


The more excuses you make for your own stupidity, the more you make the case that you are very dumb, incredibly entitled, or both.


The more you go around calling people stupid and dumb online....the more you are probably that yourself
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LOL. It’s stated in obscure boiler plate language on a superfluous webpage that there is a possibility of boundary changes, a website that a potential purchaser wouldn’t need to go to (and likely wouldn’t visit) because the info is available on Zillow or Redfin, and that somehow puts the purchase on notice?

Did i get that right? How absurd.


Schools are the #1 driving factor when looking for a house. Ask any realtor. I agree, that it is absurd to think that in a county the size of Fairfax that we should expect to be switched out of a boundary of a school.

The BOS should be paying attention to this. Another year of so of this discussion will not be good for Fairfax county residents. I've been through this before. It is stressful and pitting neighboring communities against each other is harmful. You can read that on this thread--people are happy to pony up another community to move, but want their own to stay put.
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How is a boundary change messing with the free market? A perfect market already factors in the possibility that areas on the periphery of a school boundary in a county-wide system may be more susceptible to being rezoned to a less “desirable” school.

Of course, the art is properly calculating that possibility, and perhaps most have understood that there should be compelling reasons to redistrict based on severe overcrowding or under-enrollment. But in that case your stronger argument is that those conditions do not currently exist, not that FCPS is interfering with a free housing market. You are still completely free to buy and sell properties at market terms.


Please show me a real estate listing in Fairfax that mentions that caveat.

When a neighborhood is decades old and has been assigned to the same school since its existence, one can jump to the conclusion that it is "safe from redistricting." That is, unless it has UMC kids. Then, the SB eyes it with glee..


Absolutely. +100. Even now, unsuspecting families are buying homes in the school board’s crosshairs in part because they are advertising the sought after school districts in the mls listings.

All these caveat emptor posters really are something else.


Ethically, realtors and real estate listings are actually not able to speak to purported school performance – but the scores are allowed into the listings via Great Schools and people can read into that what they wish. Realtors and the actual listings have to be very objective, otherwise they can be violating Fair Housing laws.



Right, and the equity warriors clamor that the buyers should just magically know they are buying into boundary changes. Really bizarre.


What do you mean by equity warrior? Genuinely curious because people keep throwing that saying around on this forum. Some things need to change as the burgeoning population of FFX County has caused issues. But no, don't think anybody is saying they should magically know....moreso saying, sucks for you. As another poster said, individual family problems are their own.


PP just uses "equity warrior" to refer to anyone who challenges the notion that they have a right in perpetuity to attend Langley High School.


Just haven’t heard any compelling reason to redistrict, and even the capacity issues (Fcps doesn’t really factor in residential development so garbage in garbage out on this front) and transportation (commutes less than an hour don’t hurt sleep time or academics according to the Fcps study and negative transportation savings from grandfathering). The only thing left is equity. And that’s all we hear you incessantly carry on about.

Equity isn’t the only thing left! There are still a lot of split feeders and attendance islands that haven’t been addressed. A popular sentiment is not breaking up friend groups, right?


Fair. Way less offensive than some of the oft discussed changes in this thread. Probably would prove a lot less divisive too, though I’m not sure if that would result in any of the split feeders or attendance islands getting redistricted to a poorer performing school.


That just underscores how you are focused only on maintaining the Langley pyramid as currently constituted.

The elimination of split feeders and attendance islands could result in many situations where students were redistricted to a "poorer performing school" (i.e., a school ranked lower or with lower average SAT scores). The families that are potentially affected are just not coming on here every day and alleging that any such moves could only be the result of "equity warriors."

Examples would include making Carson feed exclusively to Westfield, making Timber Lane feed exclusively to Falls Church, making Rolling Valley feed exclusively to Lewis, or reassigning the Sangster island to South County.


Reaasigning the Sangster island to South County is not closing a split feeder. It is making an existing split feeder worse.

Closing the Sangster split feeder would involve rezoning it to Lake Braddock with the rest of the school, which is an equal swap with WSHS and keeps that Sangster neighborhood in the same general community, while not affecting housing values one dollar either way.



Sangster should definitely all go to Lake Braddock. However, the Sangster island should be eliminated. Those kids should attend South County and Newington Forest.

They won't touch Rolling Valley because it literally abuts WSHS. If anything, they will allow it all to go to WSHS. South of parkway homes attending Hunt Valley are in jeopardy of getting sent to Saratoga and Lewis. That would free up space at Hunt Valley for Orange Hunt kids.


Lewis is nearly twice as far away than South County high school for the HV neighborhoods south of the Parkway. South County is also under enrolled by a similar percentage as Lewis.


Saratoga Elementary school is more than twice the distance (3.9 miles) to the Gambrill neighbohoods of Vogell's Way according to google maps.

Hunt Valley is just on the edge of the walk zone (1.4 miles) using the same Vogel's Way starting point.

South county and WSHS are also both much closer to the Gambril neighborhoods than Lewis, which is at least double the time and distance.


Nope. Sorry. Never a walk zone. Stop using distance for an excuse. Those kids are on a bus.


1.4 miles is the edge of the walk zone.

Those kids do ride a bus but they are right at that point on the edge of the 1.5 mile
FCPS walk zone.


I thought the walk zone was 2 miles! Dang, my elementary aged kids aren't going to walk 1.5 miles to school!
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How is a boundary change messing with the free market? A perfect market already factors in the possibility that areas on the periphery of a school boundary in a county-wide system may be more susceptible to being rezoned to a less “desirable” school.

Of course, the art is properly calculating that possibility, and perhaps most have understood that there should be compelling reasons to redistrict based on severe overcrowding or under-enrollment. But in that case your stronger argument is that those conditions do not currently exist, not that FCPS is interfering with a free housing market. You are still completely free to buy and sell properties at market terms.


Please show me a real estate listing in Fairfax that mentions that caveat.

When a neighborhood is decades old and has been assigned to the same school since its existence, one can jump to the conclusion that it is "safe from redistricting." That is, unless it has UMC kids. Then, the SB eyes it with glee..


Absolutely. +100. Even now, unsuspecting families are buying homes in the school board’s crosshairs in part because they are advertising the sought after school districts in the mls listings.

All these caveat emptor posters really are something else.


Ethically, realtors and real estate listings are actually not able to speak to purported school performance – but the scores are allowed into the listings via Great Schools and people can read into that what they wish. Realtors and the actual listings have to be very objective, otherwise they can be violating Fair Housing laws.



People home shopping can just take the home address, plug it into FCPS boundary locator, and the school pops up.

They then just go to the school profile to get information about the school such as free lunch or ESOL stats.

Then, they go to the state of Virginia website with the school names, and get the accreditation info.

Great schools in convenient, but completely unnecessary to research before you buy.


Right, just not seeing how this process keys potential buyers into the very real redistricting threat, as the sb shills like to parrots.


As a threshold matter, a buyer in Fairfax County, should understand they are buying in a county that operates a county-wide school system, not a town-based one like in much of New England or the Mid-Atlantic.

Then, if they are checking out the specific assigned schools, the FCPS boundary locator states prominently "Please note that school boundaries may be adjusted by the School Board. FCPS provides no guarantee that any residential address will continually be served by the same elementary, middle, and/or high school(s) or AAP center(s)."

If they were to look at boundary maps, whether on the FCPS web site or real estate sites like Redfin, they can aksi see whether a house is on the periphery of a school boundary or close to the school.

None of this provides a roadmap as to whether a neighborhood will, in fact, be redistricted, but it provides enough information to put people on notice that their school assignments may change. That information, in turn, is reflected more generally in the prices for properties in a neighborhood. If the boundaries do change, it is not quite the bait-and-switch that posters who don't want to be redistricted (and we all get that, as people rarely want to be redistricted) are claiming it is.


LOL. It’s stated in obscure boiler plate language on a superfluous webpage that there is a possibility of boundary changes, a website that a potential purchaser wouldn’t need to go to (and likely wouldn’t visit) because the info is available on Zillow or Redfin, and that somehow puts the purchase on notice?

Did i get that right? How absurd.


The more excuses you make for your own stupidity, the more you make the case that you are very dumb, incredibly entitled, or both.


The more you go around calling people stupid and dumb online....the more you are probably that yourself


I’m not complaining every day about possibly getting redistricted or calling every other poster with a pulse an “equity warrior,” so a fair inference is that I made better choices than you did, or at least have found it easier to live with those choices. Hugs.
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