US has no good options in Ukraine

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gee, I wonder where the managers of this fund got the idea to make THAT investment
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Anonymous wrote:So excited that Kamala will be in Warsaw to teach the Europeans about peace.


Trump is on his way to Finland to see Putin…because trump thinks it is Russia.


Haha! Let the dotard do his thing.

Kamala has got this!


Is there some way we can get Trump and Putin in the same place? Two dotards for the price of one?
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I posted on the other thread, they have made a cartoon for Elementary aged school children AND the schools are having mandatory classes related to Ukraine.

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gee, I wonder where the managers of this fund got the idea to make THAT investment


Well, that's interesting. The Kentucky Teacher's Retirement Fund is also the 4th largest institutional investor in the Russian oil company Lukoil. You'll notice on these lists that there are no other state retirement funds - why is Kentucky so invested in Russia?

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The only ones we need expressing their displeasure are China, because Russia depends on them for a lot of stuff, and OPEC, because Europe and the US need their oil if we're to implement a ban on Russian oil and gas imports.

India is welcome to stay neutral.

For the needle to move on China and OPEC countries, Russia will have to really go crazy in Ukraine, such that it's no longer feasible for any country's image to pretend to look the other way.

The needle has started moving tonight, with the fire at a nuclear reactor. Putin would love to lay waste to Ukraine, in a "if I can't have it, nobody can for thousands of years" sick murder-suicide lover way, and if he shows signs of going there, no nuclear country can stay neutral, because that it every nuclear country's worst nightmare.

We need reasonably priced and abundant OPEC oil, people, to starve the Russian government of its only source of money, oil and gas sales. OPEC countries must be persuaded to make a gesture, and that will only come if Russia, who is a member of OPEC +, turns into a PR disaster.





Reasonable cost oil isn’t a right.

How do Europeans and Asians deal with petrol prices?

USA should deal with 7 dollar gas. It isn’t hard. It’s almost spring. Walk. Stay at home. Ride a bike.


Many of Europe's major cities are walkable. US cities are mostly not. The average daily commute is 16 miles one way in the US-not exactly bike friendly.


Sounds like a good time to rethink suburban planning.

Perfect catalyst


I agree. If gas had not been cheap, we would have designed cities differently, and we'd be better off now. This IS the perfect catalyst.

I re-did my life not to need to drive quite as much and I could improve it even more.
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Anonymous wrote:So excited that Kamala will be in Warsaw to teach the Europeans about peace.


Trump is on his way to Finland to see Putin…because trump thinks it is Russia.


Is Trump going to try and buy Finland? Oh, wait, he wanted to buy Greenland....Well, they both have "land" in their names. Same place, really. (I'm writing like Trump prob thinks if he thinks at all).
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The only ones we need expressing their displeasure are China, because Russia depends on them for a lot of stuff, and OPEC, because Europe and the US need their oil if we're to implement a ban on Russian oil and gas imports.

India is welcome to stay neutral.

For the needle to move on China and OPEC countries, Russia will have to really go crazy in Ukraine, such that it's no longer feasible for any country's image to pretend to look the other way.

The needle has started moving tonight, with the fire at a nuclear reactor. Putin would love to lay waste to Ukraine, in a "if I can't have it, nobody can for thousands of years" sick murder-suicide lover way, and if he shows signs of going there, no nuclear country can stay neutral, because that it every nuclear country's worst nightmare.

We need reasonably priced and abundant OPEC oil, people, to starve the Russian government of its only source of money, oil and gas sales. OPEC countries must be persuaded to make a gesture, and that will only come if Russia, who is a member of OPEC +, turns into a PR disaster.





Reasonable cost oil isn’t a right.

How do Europeans and Asians deal with petrol prices?

USA should deal with 7 dollar gas. It isn’t hard. It’s almost spring. Walk. Stay at home. Ride a bike.


Many of Europe's major cities are walkable. US cities are mostly not. The average daily commute is 16 miles one way in the US-not exactly bike friendly.


The average daily commute to work? We've mostly been WFH for two years. No reason why we can't keep doing that.


People, you're not getting it. Agriculture is the hardest hit when oil prices rise. Your food needs tractors. Commuters will suffer, sure, but there are entire sectors of industry that rely on oil.
Also, Germany is 40% dependent on Russian oil and gas right now. France, 15% or so. Different countries have varying degrees of dependency on Russian oil and gas, and that's why Europeans have refused to consider banning imports so far - the consequences on the economy would be too dire. Saudi Arabia was approached last week, and said, nope, no can do, my loyalty is to OPEC+ (meaning group of OPEC and Russia, oil producers and price-fixers).

My point is that the more Russia goes on a rampage in Ukraine, the more it becomes a PR crisis for its silent supporters, and the more we may hope to get a deal on oil and gas, and nix Russia that way.



It’s a terrible shame that Angela Merkel, former leader of the once energy independent Germany dismantled Germany’s nuclear power plants and made Germany dependent on Russian gas.

Nuclear power plants aren’t looking so great today either, chief. The Russians just seized the largest one in Europe and can either shell it causing a nuclear winter or shut it down causing millions to freeze to death.
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The only ones we need expressing their displeasure are China, because Russia depends on them for a lot of stuff, and OPEC, because Europe and the US need their oil if we're to implement a ban on Russian oil and gas imports.

India is welcome to stay neutral.

For the needle to move on China and OPEC countries, Russia will have to really go crazy in Ukraine, such that it's no longer feasible for any country's image to pretend to look the other way.

The needle has started moving tonight, with the fire at a nuclear reactor. Putin would love to lay waste to Ukraine, in a "if I can't have it, nobody can for thousands of years" sick murder-suicide lover way, and if he shows signs of going there, no nuclear country can stay neutral, because that it every nuclear country's worst nightmare.

We need reasonably priced and abundant OPEC oil, people, to starve the Russian government of its only source of money, oil and gas sales. OPEC countries must be persuaded to make a gesture, and that will only come if Russia, who is a member of OPEC +, turns into a PR disaster.





Reasonable cost oil isn’t a right.

How do Europeans and Asians deal with petrol prices?

USA should deal with 7 dollar gas. It isn’t hard. It’s almost spring. Walk. Stay at home. Ride a bike.


Many of Europe's major cities are walkable. US cities are mostly not. The average daily commute is 16 miles one way in the US-not exactly bike friendly.


The average daily commute to work? We've mostly been WFH for two years. No reason why we can't keep doing that.


People, you're not getting it. Agriculture is the hardest hit when oil prices rise. Your food needs tractors. Commuters will suffer, sure, but there are entire sectors of industry that rely on oil.
Also, Germany is 40% dependent on Russian oil and gas right now. France, 15% or so. Different countries have varying degrees of dependency on Russian oil and gas, and that's why Europeans have refused to consider banning imports so far - the consequences on the economy would be too dire. Saudi Arabia was approached last week, and said, nope, no can do, my loyalty is to OPEC+ (meaning group of OPEC and Russia, oil producers and price-fixers).

My point is that the more Russia goes on a rampage in Ukraine, the more it becomes a PR crisis for its silent supporters, and the more we may hope to get a deal on oil and gas, and nix Russia that way.



It’s a terrible shame that Angela Merkel, former leader of the once energy independent Germany dismantled Germany’s nuclear power plants and made Germany dependent on Russian gas.

Nuclear power plants aren’t looking so great today either, chief. The Russians just seized the largest one in Europe and can either shell it causing a nuclear winter or shut it down causing millions to freeze to death.


Shutting it down to make people freeze to death is no more effective than cutting off their gas supply. Moreover, I was talking about Germany. Russia isn’t attacking Germany militarily. Russia could withhold gas and oil from Germany.
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I posted on the other thread, they have made a cartoon for Elementary aged school children AND the schools are having mandatory classes related to Ukraine.



Kherson is a captured city in Ukraine.
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The only ones we need expressing their displeasure are China, because Russia depends on them for a lot of stuff, and OPEC, because Europe and the US need their oil if we're to implement a ban on Russian oil and gas imports.

India is welcome to stay neutral.

For the needle to move on China and OPEC countries, Russia will have to really go crazy in Ukraine, such that it's no longer feasible for any country's image to pretend to look the other way.

The needle has started moving tonight, with the fire at a nuclear reactor. Putin would love to lay waste to Ukraine, in a "if I can't have it, nobody can for thousands of years" sick murder-suicide lover way, and if he shows signs of going there, no nuclear country can stay neutral, because that it every nuclear country's worst nightmare.

We need reasonably priced and abundant OPEC oil, people, to starve the Russian government of its only source of money, oil and gas sales. OPEC countries must be persuaded to make a gesture, and that will only come if Russia, who is a member of OPEC +, turns into a PR disaster.





Reasonable cost oil isn’t a right.

How do Europeans and Asians deal with petrol prices?

USA should deal with 7 dollar gas. It isn’t hard. It’s almost spring. Walk. Stay at home. Ride a bike.


Many of Europe's major cities are walkable. US cities are mostly not. The average daily commute is 16 miles one way in the US-not exactly bike friendly.


The average daily commute to work? We've mostly been WFH for two years. No reason why we can't keep doing that.


People, you're not getting it. Agriculture is the hardest hit when oil prices rise. Your food needs tractors. Commuters will suffer, sure, but there are entire sectors of industry that rely on oil.
Also, Germany is 40% dependent on Russian oil and gas right now. France, 15% or so. Different countries have varying degrees of dependency on Russian oil and gas, and that's why Europeans have refused to consider banning imports so far - the consequences on the economy would be too dire. Saudi Arabia was approached last week, and said, nope, no can do, my loyalty is to OPEC+ (meaning group of OPEC and Russia, oil producers and price-fixers).

My point is that the more Russia goes on a rampage in Ukraine, the more it becomes a PR crisis for its silent supporters, and the more we may hope to get a deal on oil and gas, and nix Russia that way.



It’s a terrible shame that Angela Merkel, former leader of the once energy independent Germany dismantled Germany’s nuclear power plants and made Germany dependent on Russian gas.

Nuclear power plants aren’t looking so great today either, chief. The Russians just seized the largest one in Europe and can either shell it causing a nuclear winter or shut it down causing millions to freeze to death.


Shutting it down to make people freeze to death is no more effective than cutting off their gas supply. Moreover, I was talking about Germany. Russia isn’t attacking Germany militarily. Russia could withhold gas and oil from Germany.


Every indication from Scholz is that he isn't going to cower to threats from Russia.
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Currently watching the Russian UN Ambassador Nebenzia claim the nuclear power plant attack was done by Ukraine and everything else is fake news. I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
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Chilling.
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Anonymous wrote:Currently watching the Russian UN Ambassador Nebenzia claim the nuclear power plant attack was done by Ukraine and everything else is fake news. I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

He is probably wrong but there are so many fake news and propaganda going on both sides.
https://news.yahoo.com/fact-mythmaking-blend-ukraines-information-190837967.html
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Anonymous wrote:Currently watching the Russian UN Ambassador Nebenzia claim the nuclear power plant attack was done by Ukraine and everything else is fake news. I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

He is probably wrong but there are so many fake news and propaganda going on both sides.
https://news.yahoo.com/fact-mythmaking-blend-ukraines-information-190837967.html


Probably wrong?!?!?! It was livestreamed for goodness sake
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