what's with local pols opposing expanding 270 and 495?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know they want everyone but them to take the bus, but it's not realistic. WMATA is woefully inadequate and dangerous. The bus isn't a viable option for many people especially if they have to work in another state. Having people sit in traffic isn't going to "save the planet" especially as more people move further out. They just don't expect to be in office when the consequences are full to see and traffic just gets far worse than the hell it currently is?

Can you name one example of a place or time when widening a street or adding a lane has resulted in better traffic flow for cars?

No?

Neither can anyone else.

It is time to go a different path on our transportation policy.

Easy. The added lane over the Severn River. Made getting to Rehobeth a gazillion times easier and faster.

Come back in 10 years and tell us how well it worked.

[Anonymous]

It isn't up to society to accommodate your bad choices

Says the Democrat that supportspublic housing and food stamps. LOl.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know they want everyone but them to take the bus, but it's not realistic. WMATA is woefully inadequate and dangerous. The bus isn't a viable option for many people especially if they have to work in another state. Having people sit in traffic isn't going to "save the planet" especially as more people move further out. They just don't expect to be in office when the consequences are full to see and traffic just gets far worse than the hell it currently is?

Can you name one example of a place or time when widening a street or adding a lane has resulted in better traffic flow for cars?

No?

Neither can anyone else.

It is time to go a different path on our transportation policy.

Easy. The added lane over the Severn River. Made getting to Rehobeth a gazillion times easier and faster.

Come back in 10 years and tell us how well it worked.

Great reply.We shouldn't do anything if it doesn't hold forever.

When your wife gets diagnosed with advnaced ovariaon cancer just tell the oncologist you're skipping the treatment. Why give her a half dozen years to watch her grand kids grow if she's just going to die in the end, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know they want everyone but them to take the bus, but it's not realistic. WMATA is woefully inadequate and dangerous. The bus isn't a viable option for many people especially if they have to work in another state. Having people sit in traffic isn't going to "save the planet" especially as more people move further out. They just don't expect to be in office when the consequences are full to see and traffic just gets far worse than the hell it currently is?

Can you name one example of a place or time when widening a street or adding a lane has resulted in better traffic flow for cars?

No?

Neither can anyone else.

It is time to go a different path on our transportation policy.

Easy. The added lane over the Severn River. Made getting to Rehobeth a gazillion times easier and faster.

Come back in 10 years and tell us how well it worked.

Great reply.We shouldn't do anything if it doesn't hold forever.

When your wife gets diagnosed with advnaced ovariaon cancer just tell the oncologist you're skipping the treatment. Why give her a half dozen years to watch her grand kids grow if she's just going to die in the end, right?

You're comparing highway widening to cancer treatment? Yeesh.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know they want everyone but them to take the bus, but it's not realistic. WMATA is woefully inadequate and dangerous. The bus isn't a viable option for many people especially if they have to work in another state. Having people sit in traffic isn't going to "save the planet" especially as more people move further out. They just don't expect to be in office when the consequences are full to see and traffic just gets far worse than the hell it currently is?

Can you name one example of a place or time when widening a street or adding a lane has resulted in better traffic flow for cars?

No?

Neither can anyone else.

It is time to go a different path on our transportation policy.

Easy. The added lane over the Severn River. Made getting to Rehobeth a gazillion times easier and faster.

Come back in 10 years and tell us how well it worked.

What would you have done instead, built a ferry to take cars across?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know they want everyone but them to take the bus, but it's not realistic. WMATA is woefully inadequate and dangerous. The bus isn't a viable option for many people especially if they have to work in another state. Having people sit in traffic isn't going to "save the planet" especially as more people move further out. They just don't expect to be in office when the consequences are full to see and traffic just gets far worse than the hell it currently is?

Can you name one example of a place or time when widening a street or adding a lane has resulted in better traffic flow for cars?

No?

Neither can anyone else.

It is time to go a different path on our transportation policy.

Easy. The added lane over the Severn River. Made getting to Rehobeth a gazillion times easier and faster.

Come back in 10 years and tell us how well it worked.

What would you have done instead, built a ferry to take cars across?

Maryland spent $23 million so that, for a few years, people driving from Maryland to Delaware on summer weekends could spend a few minutes less sitting in their cars on a bridge with other people from Maryland driving to Delaware on summer weekends.

Meanwhile, if you live in Montgomery County and you want to take public transportation to Ocean City, Maryland, it's a 13-hour overnight trip via Wilmington, Delaware.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know they want everyone but them to take the bus, but it's not realistic. WMATA is woefully inadequate and dangerous. The bus isn't a viable option for many people especially if they have to work in another state. Having people sit in traffic isn't going to "save the planet" especially as more people move further out. They just don't expect to be in office when the consequences are full to see and traffic just gets far worse than the hell it currently is?

Can you name one example of a place or time when widening a street or adding a lane has resulted in better traffic flow for cars?

No?

Neither can anyone else.

It is time to go a different path on our transportation policy.

Easy. The added lane over the Severn River. Made getting to Rehobeth a gazillion times easier and faster.

Come back in 10 years and tell us how well it worked.

Great reply.We shouldn't do anything if it doesn't hold forever.

When your wife gets diagnosed with advnaced ovariaon cancer just tell the oncologist you're skipping the treatment. Why give her a half dozen years to watch her grand kids grow if she's just going to die in the end, right?

OMG. This made me legitimately laugh out loud.

The excuses for doing nothing are so absurd. Thanks for pointing that out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know they want everyone but them to take the bus, but it's not realistic. WMATA is woefully inadequate and dangerous. The bus isn't a viable option for many people especially if they have to work in another state. Having people sit in traffic isn't going to "save the planet" especially as more people move further out. They just don't expect to be in office when the consequences are full to see and traffic just gets far worse than the hell it currently is?

Can you name one example of a place or time when widening a street or adding a lane has resulted in better traffic flow for cars?

No?

Neither can anyone else.

It is time to go a different path on our transportation policy.

Easy. The added lane over the Severn River. Made getting to Rehobeth a gazillion times easier and faster.

Come back in 10 years and tell us how well it worked.

What would you have done instead, built a ferry to take cars across?

Maryland spent $23 million so that, for a few years, people driving from Maryland to Delaware on summer weekends could spend a few minutes less sitting in their cars on a bridge with other people from Maryland driving to Delaware on summer weekends.

Meanwhile, if you live in Montgomery County and you want to take public transportation to Ocean City, Maryland, it's a 13-hour overnight trip via Wilmington, Delaware.

$23 million is cheap for crucial infrastructure nowadays, sounds like we got a good deal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know they want everyone but them to take the bus, but it's not realistic. WMATA is woefully inadequate and dangerous. The bus isn't a viable option for many people especially if they have to work in another state. Having people sit in traffic isn't going to "save the planet" especially as more people move further out. They just don't expect to be in office when the consequences are full to see and traffic just gets far worse than the hell it currently is?

Can you name one example of a place or time when widening a street or adding a lane has resulted in better traffic flow for cars?

No?

Neither can anyone else.

It is time to go a different path on our transportation policy.

Easy. The added lane over the Severn River. Made getting to Rehobeth a gazillion times easier and faster.

Come back in 10 years and tell us how well it worked.

What would you have done instead, built a ferry to take cars across?

The only acceptable option would be a two-way BRT lane will bike lanes. LOL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know they want everyone but them to take the bus, but it's not realistic. WMATA is woefully inadequate and dangerous. The bus isn't a viable option for many people especially if they have to work in another state. Having people sit in traffic isn't going to "save the planet" especially as more people move further out. They just don't expect to be in office when the consequences are full to see and traffic just gets far worse than the hell it currently is?

Can you name one example of a place or time when widening a street or adding a lane has resulted in better traffic flow for cars?

No?

Neither can anyone else.

It is time to go a different path on our transportation policy.

Easy. The added lane over the Severn River. Made getting to Rehobeth a gazillion times easier and faster.

Come back in 10 years and tell us how well it worked.

Great reply.We shouldn't do anything if it doesn't hold forever.

When your wife gets diagnosed with advnaced ovariaon cancer just tell the oncologist you're skipping the treatment. Why give her a half dozen years to watch her grand kids grow if she's just going to die in the end, right?

OMG. This made me legitimately laugh out loud.

The excuses for doing nothing are so absurd. Thanks for pointing that out.

Nobody's saying we shouldn't do anything.

The PP's metaphor is off the mark. This situation is more akin to an obese guy going to the doctor, receiving the advice to lay off the McDonald's, and then stopping off at the McDonald's drive-thru on the way home. We're not going to solve our traffic problems by doing what we've always done, just as the patient will not solve his obesity issue by continuing to eat McDonald's.

[Anonymous]

instead of widening why don't they build mult-level highways like in California

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:instead of widening why don't they build mult-level highways like in California

What problem would that solve?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Could you provide a link to that study of a second crossing, please?

It's was voted on and accepted as part of the Long-Range Plan Task Force recommendations for further study.
https://www.mwcog.org/newsroom/2017/07/25/tpb-accepts-long-range-plan-task-force-recommendations-for-further-analysis/

Follow-up with MWCOG if you want more details on the status.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know they want everyone but them to take the bus, but it's not realistic. WMATA is woefully inadequate and dangerous. The bus isn't a viable option for many people especially if they have to work in another state. Having people sit in traffic isn't going to "save the planet" especially as more people move further out. They just don't expect to be in office when the consequences are full to see and traffic just gets far worse than the hell it currently is?

Can you name one example of a place or time when widening a street or adding a lane has resulted in better traffic flow for cars?

No?

Neither can anyone else.

It is time to go a different path on our transportation policy.

Easy. The added lane over the Severn River. Made getting to Rehobeth a gazillion times easier and faster.

Come back in 10 years and tell us how well it worked.

What would you have done instead, built a ferry to take cars across?

Maryland spent $23 million so that, for a few years, people driving from Maryland to Delaware on summer weekends could spend a few minutes less sitting in their cars on a bridge with other people from Maryland driving to Delaware on summer weekends.

Meanwhile, if you live in Montgomery County and you want to take public transportation to Ocean City, Maryland, it's a 13-hour overnight trip via Wilmington, Delaware.

$23 million is cheap for crucial infrastructure nowadays, sounds like we got a good deal.

Who's "we", and how is this "crucial infrastructure"?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Could you provide a link to that study of a second crossing, please?

It's was voted on and accepted as part of the Long-Range Plan Task Force recommendations for further study.
https://www.mwcog.org/newsroom/2017/07/25/tpb-accepts-long-range-plan-task-force-recommendations-for-further-analysis/

Follow-up with MWCOG if you want more details on the status.

That was in July 2017.

The status is: they did the study and decided in December 2017 not to include it on their list of projects: https://www.mwcog.org/documents/2017/12/20/long-range-plan-task-force-reports-projects-regional-transportation-priorities-plan-scenario-planning-tpb/