Why don’t Americans give a f*** about what they eat?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

This is exactly the problem with childhood obesity. Parents refuse to believe they have any responsibility and calling for parental accountability is “nuts”. These poor kids will grow up believing that they have no control over their food choices or obesity- all to their detriment. The government won’t make you thin or healthy, sweetheart

Again, if you understand the science of habit forming, like eating habits, you know it’s not about will power. It’s about creating an environment where the good habit is easy to do or creating environment that makes bad habit difficult to do.

That’s why banning smoking indoors and rising cigarette prices resulted in huge drop of smokers.

The same with food. It’s much easier to make they right choice when your environment makes it easy, and it’s a lot harder to fight your environment to make the right choice.

This is science.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just think about how wrong it is to say: "I'd never let the school feed my kids!"
Imagine that being said in Frane, Japan, South Korea?
Where people are demanding accountability! From schools and their governments.
But, here we elect our officials.... so they can serve huge corporations!
Bravo America.

+10000

Schools get away with serving crap to kids, but it’s average Joe’s fault for eating it.

Schools schools shouldn’t serve food, period. Do you expect your work to cook your lunch? Parents are responsible for providing kids with food. School can have a few healthy items on hand- but they shouldn’t be responsible for cooking meals. No vending machines, no mystery meat, no chocolate milk. Parents can and should feed their kids. School can have safety net items like white milk and fresh fruit. No one will starve. American does not have the same economic and government model as other countries. We are set up to maximize personal freedoms and choices. If you want the government to make and provide your daily lunch AND you want it to be heathy, you are in the wrong country. If you have the ability to make good choices for yourself and are able to earn enough money to live/thrive, you will be fine

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

This. Is. What. It. Is. Like. In. Every. Wealthy. Industrialised. Country.

I know because I've lived in five of them. We need to focus on educating people about food, exercise, and personal choices, not on trying to get governments to regulate food choices, because that isn't going to happen.

BS. Other industrialised countries do regulate food industry and do it very well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If we were not overweight and stupid, we might realize that capitalists are holding us in pig pens and working us to death.
And if we are not working, they are profiting from us dying.
What a dumb question op!
This is not the land of the free or the brave! This is the land of the overweight and overexploited.

Please take your meds and help your parents clean your pigpen today.

I do, every single day. Just like you do. I just realize I live in a pigpen. You are that far gone that you think you are FREE!

[Anonymous]

Schools in many countries serve lunch! As it is, it might be that kids in Kenya are eating healthier lunches than kids in the richttps://www.cbc.ca/kidscbc2/the-feed/6-school-lunches-from-around-the-world#:~:text=Students%20in%20South%20Korea%20go%20to%20cafeterias%20where,cooked%20meat%20or%20fish%20or%20tofu%20with%20vegetables.hest country in the world!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Schools schools shouldn’t serve food, period. Do you expect your work to cook your lunch? Parents are responsible for providing kids with food. School can have a few healthy items on hand- but they shouldn’t be responsible for cooking meals. No vending machines, no mystery meat, no chocolate milk. Parents can and should feed their kids. School can have safety net items like white milk and fresh fruit. No one will starve. American does not have the same economic and government model as other countries. We are set up to maximize personal freedoms and choices. If you want the government to make and provide your daily lunch AND you want it to be heathy, you are in the wrong country. If you have the ability to make good choices for yourself and are able to earn enough money to live/thrive, you will be fine

Gee, I don’t know. How do French and Norwegian schools manage to serve healthy meals to their kids and we can’t.

You do know for many kids in America school food is the ONLY food they eat, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

This is exactly the problem with childhood obesity. Parents refuse to believe they have any responsibility and calling for parental accountability is “nuts”. These poor kids will grow up believing that they have no control over their food choices or obesity- all to their detriment. The government won’t make you thin or healthy, sweetheart

Again, if you understand the science of habit forming, like eating habits, you know it’s not about will power. It’s about creating an environment where the good habit is easy to do or creating environment that makes bad habit difficult to do.

That’s why banning smoking indoors and rising cigarette prices resulted in huge drop of smokers.

The same with food. It’s much easier to make they right choice when your environment makes it easy, and it’s a lot harder to fight your environment to make the right choice.

This is science.

And it’s up to parents and individuals to create those habits. So you can sit around waiting for the government to help make you thin or you can do it yourself. Industrialization of food is going nowhere. This country doesn’t have the capacity to feed our oversized population without it. Plus, to keep food affordable, mass production is a necessity.

You want to change food culture? Start with your own home. Get off the soccer field until 8pm and all weekend and make actual meals for your kids. How many families do you know that have traded nutrition for sports? The government cannot control our bad choices

[Anonymous]

What Italian kids eat and how much does it cost? 3-5 Euros.
https://www.gamberorossointernational.com/news/school-lunches-in-italy-setting-a-healthy-pattern-for-adult-life/#:~:text=Compared%20to%20what%20happens%20overseas%2C%20Italian%20school%20lunches,vegetable%20side%20dishes%20and%20plenty%20of%20fresh%20fruit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
Your friend's daughter definitely has Type 1, previously aka juvenile diabetes. It is VERY different from Type 2, is not caused by eating too much food or eating wrong food, or not moving enough. In fact, the cause (or, probably, causes) are still unknown.

Riiight. That’s what you are led to believe.

I wonder then why T1 diabetes rates have been steadily rising at the same time with T2 diabetes? Maybe, and I’m just throwing it out there, maybe diseases of endocrine system as well as other diseases do have something to do with what you eat.

Even if food is causing T1 diabetes in some way, it is certainly absolutely different from the mechanisms that cause T2.

DP. You're defensively saying that 1 is autoimmune and that T2 is caused by bad diet. That's wrong. They're both genetic and they're both treated similarly. There's no division on the diabetes boards. There shouldn't be here either.

This is the most ignorant and ridiculous thing I heard. Especially since it is soooo easy to verify and disprove. Please educate yourself.

https://www.diabetes.org.uk/diabetes-the-basics/differences-between-type-1-and-type-2-diabetes

T1 is autoimmune, rarely genetic and is not affected by lifestyle. T2 is largely genetic but also due to a lifestyle choices.

But if you think 'this is what I was led to believe'... No one will persuade you, you are just a science denier.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just think about how wrong it is to say: "I'd never let the school feed my kids!"
Imagine that being said in Frane, Japan, South Korea?
Where people are demanding accountability! From schools and their governments.
But, here we elect our officials.... so they can serve huge corporations!
Bravo America.

+10000

Schools get away with serving crap to kids, but it’s average Joe’s fault for eating it.

Schools schools shouldn’t serve food, period. Do you expect your work to cook your lunch? Parents are responsible for providing kids with food. School can have a few healthy items on hand- but they shouldn’t be responsible for cooking meals. No vending machines, no mystery meat, no chocolate milk. Parents can and should feed their kids. School can have safety net items like white milk and fresh fruit. No one will starve. American does not have the same economic and government model as other countries. We are set up to maximize personal freedoms and choices. If you want the government to make and provide your daily lunch AND you want it to be heathy, you are in the wrong country. If you have the ability to make good choices for yourself and are able to earn enough money to live/thrive, you will be fine

I've worked at jobs with good cafeterias. Sorry that you haven't.

[Anonymous]

While we have barely any money for school lunches, we somehow have trillions to invade other countries! And donate, and "aid" the world.

"The National School Lunch Program provides low-cost or free school lunches to 31 million students at more than 100,000 public and private schools per day. Meals must meet nutritional standards based on the Dietary Guidelines for Americans.

Participating schools receive approximately $1.30 to spend for each child. This amount must cover the food, as well as any labor, equipment, electricity, and other costs. School food programs also depend on income from students who often pay for the food they eat.

Tight budgets make serving healthier foods challenging."

[Anonymous]

So, pp that doesn't want schools to serve lunches, let alone healthy lunches, your solution is to move to another country if you want healthier school lunches?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
You do realize that even if your soldier through and make every meal at home for your kids, they will still be exposed to crappy food at parties, when they go see their friends, when they go out to eat, when they go to college? Even if they manage to grow up healthy they will be a drop in a bucket of sickly, fat generation and will have to deal with consequences as a society.

You seriously think you can live in a bubble and it won’t impact you?

This. Is. What. It. Is. Like. In. Every. Wealthy. Industrialised. Country.

I know because I've lived in five of them. We need to focus on educating people about food, exercise, and personal choices, not on trying to get governments to regulate food choices, because that isn't going to happen.

I invested time, energy, and money in that kind of education and kept getting yelled at for undermining parental choice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Your friend's daughter definitely has Type 1, previously aka juvenile diabetes. It is VERY different from Type 2, is not caused by eating too much food or eating wrong food, or not moving enough. In fact, the cause (or, probably, causes) are still unknown.

Riiight. That’s what you are led to believe.

I wonder then why T1 diabetes rates have been steadily rising at the same time with T2 diabetes? Maybe, and I’m just throwing it out there, maybe diseases of endocrine system as well as other diseases do have something to do with what you eat.

Even if food is causing T1 diabetes in some way, it is certainly absolutely different from the mechanisms that cause T2.

DP. You're defensively saying that 1 is autoimmune and that T2 is caused by bad diet. That's wrong. They're both genetic and they're both treated similarly. There's no division on the diabetes boards. There shouldn't be here either.

This is the most ignorant and ridiculous thing I heard. Especially since it is soooo easy to verify and disprove. Please educate yourself.

https://www.diabetes.org.uk/diabetes-the-basics/differences-between-type-1-and-type-2-diabetes

T1 is autoimmune, rarely genetic and is not affected by lifestyle. T2 is largely genetic but also due to a lifestyle choices.

But if you think 'this is what I was led to believe'... No one will persuade you, you are just a science denier.

Yes, T1 is genetic, as is T2. And while T1 is not triggered by lifestyle, both are treated by lifestyle changes.

If your DC is diabetic, please spend time on the various diabetes boards. Over time, you'll learn a lot.

[Anonymous]

This country has the ability to feed all of its population, plus many other countries.
Stop being stupid. This country chooses not to do the right thing.
Because it costs a bit more money, and that is the money that might not end up in the pockets of huge conglomerates.