So over APS

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Parents on here are something else. I think they never paid attention to their kids education til now. But now they are experts and they are outraged. Most of what you’re complaining about has been in place for 5 years or more. I see posts from a bunch of out of touch whiners. Got to private or move if you think it’s so awful.

So you think APS could not be improved at all? Not even one bit? And that parents who want the system to do better are whiners?

Is this how you deal with other life problems? I find that sad, actually.

No. I think there is always room for improvement. I think the issues identified by the parents on here (and the way they appear to outraged at basic instructional methods and curriculum approaches employed for many years throughout NVA reveal them to be out of touch whiners and complainers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Parents on here are something else. I think they never paid attention to their kids education til now. But now they are experts and they are outraged. Most of what you’re complaining about has been in place for 5 years or more. I see posts from a bunch of out of touch whiners. Got to private or move if you think it’s so awful.

So you think APS could not be improved at all? Not even one bit? And that parents who want the system to do better are whiners?

Is this how you deal with other life problems? I find that sad, actually.

No. I think there is always room for improvement. I think the issues identified by the parents on here (and the way they appear to outraged at basic instructional methods and curriculum approaches employed for many years throughout NVA reveal them to be out of touch whiners and complainers.

How about you spend a day in my house watching my child in a full on panic attack and in tears before you call someone else out of touch? I’m not interested in academic pedagogical navel-gazing. I want APS to see that its technological incompetence and its failure to manage its staff (teachers should not punish kids for that incompetence) have turned even my straight A, calm, confident high schooler into a basket case trying to do the school’s job so she doesn’t take the hit to her GPA? I can only imagine how hard this is on kids. My kid’s teachers don’t seem to care. At all. In fact, one of my child’s teachers was overheard on one Monday this spring IN A NAIL SALON saying that she can only get her nails done on Monday because that’s “her day.” Get your house in order APS!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Parents on here are something else. I think they never paid attention to their kids education til now. But now they are experts and they are outraged. Most of what you’re complaining about has been in place for 5 years or more. I see posts from a bunch of out of touch whiners. Got to private or move if you think it’s so awful.

So you think APS could not be improved at all? Not even one bit? And that parents who want the system to do better are whiners?

Is this how you deal with other life problems? I find that sad, actually.

No. I think there is always room for improvement. I think the issues identified by the parents on here (and the way they appear to outraged at basic instructional methods and curriculum approaches employed for many years throughout NVA reveal them to be out of touch whiners and complainers.

How about you spend a day in my house watching my child in a full on panic attack and in tears before you call someone else out of touch? I’m not interested in academic pedagogical navel-gazing. I want APS to see that its technological incompetence and its failure to manage its staff (teachers should not punish kids for that incompetence) have turned even my straight A, calm, confident high schooler into a basket case trying to do the school’s job so she doesn’t take the hit to her GPA? I can only imagine how hard this is on kids. My kid’s teachers don’t seem to care. At all. In fact, one of my child’s teachers was overheard on one Monday this spring IN A NAIL SALON saying that she can only get her nails done on Monday because that’s “her day.” Get your house in order APS!

How about you spend a day in mine? I’m an APS teacher. No one I know is punishing kids for issues in Canvas. That’s a bunch of malarkey. I have never been more lenient with late work and that kind of thing. If one of my students communicates any kind of tech issue, I do everything I can to help them. I’ll take an assignment over email, Google, whatever, and everyone I know does, too. I put in crazy hours this year. It has gotten so much better in this last month or so, but I was consistently working 12-15, sometimes 18, hour days. There were a lot of days I never left my house. I have my own kids, too. I wasn’t able to help them with virtual school, but my kids’ teachers were awesome.

One Monday, I dipped out to Costco at lunch time because it’s more efficient without the crowds, and ran into a neighbor. I’m pretty sure she told half our zip code that that’s what we do, because she’s like that. The same woman has always complained about APS, her kids teachers, the curriculum, everything. There are 2000 teachers in APS. I think quality of the staff is excellent, but you may have some variation in 2000. Also… that sounds like a rumor. You heard that, huh?

Junior year is a tough year. I see a lot of the kids overload themselves with AP classes, and then complain about the workload. Some of them have crazy schedules, and I don’t understand how they think they can do all of that. Some of them don’t seem ready for an AP class to me, but they take them, anyway. I don’t know if that’s the case here, but I do see that.

After how hard we’ve all worked this year, it really offends me when I hear people just bash APS. I am proud of the district I work in, and where my kids go to school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Parents on here are something else. I think they never paid attention to their kids education til now. But now they are experts and they are outraged. Most of what you’re complaining about has been in place for 5 years or more. I see posts from a bunch of out of touch whiners. Got to private or move if you think it’s so awful.

So you think APS could not be improved at all? Not even one bit? And that parents who want the system to do better are whiners?

Is this how you deal with other life problems? I find that sad, actually.

No. I think there is always room for improvement. I think the issues identified by the parents on here (and the way they appear to outraged at basic instructional methods and curriculum approaches employed for many years throughout NVA reveal them to be out of touch whiners and complainers.

How about you spend a day in my house watching my child in a full on panic attack and in tears before you call someone else out of touch? I’m not interested in academic pedagogical navel-gazing. I want APS to see that its technological incompetence and its failure to manage its staff (teachers should not punish kids for that incompetence) have turned even my straight A, calm, confident high schooler into a basket case trying to do the school’s job so she doesn’t take the hit to her GPA? I can only imagine how hard this is on kids. My kid’s teachers don’t seem to care. At all. In fact, one of my child’s teachers was overheard on one Monday this spring IN A NAIL SALON saying that she can only get her nails done on Monday because that’s “her day.” Get your house in order APS!

How about you spend a day in mine? I’m an APS teacher. No one I know is punishing kids for issues in Canvas. That’s a bunch of malarkey. I have never been more lenient with late work and that kind of thing. If one of my students communicates any kind of tech issue, I do everything I can to help them. I’ll take an assignment over email, Google, whatever, and everyone I know does, too. I put in crazy hours this year. It has gotten so much better in this last month or so, but I was consistently working 12-15, sometimes 18, hour days. There were a lot of days I never left my house. I have my own kids, too. I wasn’t able to help them with virtual school, but my kids’ teachers were awesome.

One Monday, I dipped out to Costco at lunch time because it’s more efficient without the crowds, and ran into a neighbor. I’m pretty sure she told half our zip code that that’s what we do, because she’s like that. The same woman has always complained about APS, her kids teachers, the curriculum, everything. There are 2000 teachers in APS. I think quality of the staff is excellent, but you may have some variation in 2000. Also… that sounds like a rumor. You heard that, huh?

Junior year is a tough year. I see a lot of the kids overload themselves with AP classes, and then complain about the workload. Some of them have crazy schedules, and I don’t understand how they think they can do all of that. Some of them don’t seem ready for an AP class to me, but they take them, anyway. I don’t know if that’s the case here, but I do see that.

After how hard we’ve all worked this year, it really offends me when I hear people just bash APS. I am proud of the district I work in, and where my kids go to school.

PP here. This is not my experience or my child’s experience. Not remotely the same. It would be great if my child’s teachers were more like you. When un kid has tech issues (not even exaggerating, these are every day), it is (1) so frustrating and panic inducing when it happens, (2) exhausting to have to reach out to the teachers every single time and manage those responses while managing 6 other classes and (3) demoralizing and tear inducing when the teachers don’t respond or respond that the kid shouldn’t be having the tech issues. I am livid at what seems like gross negligence and indifference to the emotional breakdowns of out kids.

[Anonymous]

And while I appreciate your dedication to your job and your students, you are mistaken if you believe that what you do is what your colleagues are doing. It is not a personal attack on you, it is a cry for help.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And while I appreciate your dedication to your job and your students, you are mistaken if you believe that what you do is what your colleagues are doing. It is not a personal attack on you, it is a cry for help.

I’m surprised. She must’ve had the worst luck with teachers this year. I meant it when I said everyone I know is understanding. We’ve also been told by our admin to be understanding. I’m sorry. I really am.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Parents on here are something else. I think they never paid attention to their kids education til now. But now they are experts and they are outraged. Most of what you’re complaining about has been in place for 5 years or more. I see posts from a bunch of out of touch whiners. Got to private or move if you think it’s so awful.

So you think APS could not be improved at all? Not even one bit? And that parents who want the system to do better are whiners?

Is this how you deal with other life problems? I find that sad, actually.

No. I think there is always room for improvement. I think the issues identified by the parents on here (and the way they appear to outraged at basic instructional methods and curriculum approaches employed for many years throughout NVA reveal them to be out of touch whiners and complainers.

How about you spend a day in my house watching my child in a full on panic attack and in tears before you call someone else out of touch? I’m not interested in academic pedagogical navel-gazing. I want APS to see that its technological incompetence and its failure to manage its staff (teachers should not punish kids for that incompetence) have turned even my straight A, calm, confident high schooler into a basket case trying to do the school’s job so she doesn’t take the hit to her GPA? I can only imagine how hard this is on kids. My kid’s teachers don’t seem to care. At all. In fact, one of my child’s teachers was overheard on one Monday this spring IN A NAIL SALON saying that she can only get her nails done on Monday because that’s “her day.” Get your house in order APS!

How about you spend a day in mine? I’m an APS teacher. No one I know is punishing kids for issues in Canvas. That’s a bunch of malarkey. I have never been more lenient with late work and that kind of thing. If one of my students communicates any kind of tech issue, I do everything I can to help them. I’ll take an assignment over email, Google, whatever, and everyone I know does, too. I put in crazy hours this year. It has gotten so much better in this last month or so, but I was consistently working 12-15, sometimes 18, hour days. There were a lot of days I never left my house. I have my own kids, too. I wasn’t able to help them with virtual school, but my kids’ teachers were awesome.

One Monday, I dipped out to Costco at lunch time because it’s more efficient without the crowds, and ran into a neighbor. I’m pretty sure she told half our zip code that that’s what we do, because she’s like that. The same woman has always complained about APS, her kids teachers, the curriculum, everything. There are 2000 teachers in APS. I think quality of the staff is excellent, but you may have some variation in 2000. Also… that sounds like a rumor. You heard that, huh?

Junior year is a tough year. I see a lot of the kids overload themselves with AP classes, and then complain about the workload. Some of them have crazy schedules, and I don’t understand how they think they can do all of that. Some of them don’t seem ready for an AP class to me, but they take them, anyway. I don’t know if that’s the case here, but I do see that.

After how hard we’ve all worked this year, it really offends me when I hear people just bash APS. I am proud of the district I work in, and where my kids go to school.

PP here. This is not my experience or my child’s experience. Not remotely the same. It would be great if my child’s teachers were more like you. When un kid has tech issues (not even exaggerating, these are every day), it is (1) so frustrating and panic inducing when it happens, (2) exhausting to have to reach out to the teachers every single time and manage those responses while managing 6 other classes and (3) demoralizing and tear inducing when the teachers don’t respond or respond that the kid shouldn’t be having the tech issues. I am livid at what seems like gross negligence and indifference to the emotional breakdowns of out kids.

Honestly, you're wasting your time on here posting something like this. I've long ago given up. APS and their cheerleaders on this site simply don't care if your kids are suffering. I tried working the system, contacting the teacher, who essentially blamed management, the principal (same response) and the School Board, which wrote me a letter telling me what a great job they are doing. I tried posting on here, got the usual responses that it must be my fault and maybe should never have had kids. Just keep paying your taxes and shut up.

[Anonymous]

Yeah, some people are really lacking in compassion here. I think most APS teachers are fine, some are exceptional, and some stink. That's about what I would expect, but the bad ones are really hard to deal with. We've absolutely had teachers that won't take late assignments this year, that don't answer questions, that no-show repeatedly for online class, etc. This is my real experience. Yes, this is an anonymous board, but that is what happened for us this year in APS.

I know some APS teachers who worked their butts off this year and were amazing, but clearly that's not everyone. Why is that so hard to believe?

Also, there are kids for whom online was a disaster, online was a blessing, and everything in-between. So between those sets of variables, it's not hard to imagine that there are many kids who had truly truly awful years in APS this year, and many families.

[Anonymous]

And while I appreciate your dedication to your job and your students, you are mistaken if you believe that what you do is what your colleagues are doing. It is not a personal attack on you, it is a cry for help.

And you are mistaken if you think that ALL the other teachers in APS are doing what your child's teacher is doing. You don't even state what school it is, you just tar all APS teachers with the same brush. It simply isn't fair to do this....it could be that your child's teacher is the exception, not the rule. Out of 2,000 APS teachers, MOST have been working extremely hard this year, just as MOST parents have been doing their best to help their kids this year. But here, on DCUM, all we hear is complaints and whining.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

And while I appreciate your dedication to your job and your students, you are mistaken if you believe that what you do is what your colleagues are doing. It is not a personal attack on you, it is a cry for help.

And you are mistaken if you think that ALL the other teachers in APS are doing what your child's teacher is doing. You don't even state what school it is, you just tar all APS teachers with the same brush. It simply isn't fair to do this....it could be that your child's teacher is the exception, not the rule. Out of 2,000 APS teachers, MOST have been working extremely hard this year, just as MOST parents have been doing their best to help their kids this year. But here, on DCUM, all we hear is complaints and whining.

Right. My comments are limited to my kid’s 7 teachers. They may not be bad people. I wouldn’t know. What I’m complaining about is the complete lack of management to make sure all teachers are doing their jobs. You know, I also work really hard in my job, and I don’t lose my mind if my customers are unhappy. I listen and try to do better. We are ALL on the edge, but just teachers. But I dare anyone to say that our kids aren’t suffering the worst and that we should do better for them. Teachers who can’t say that frankly don’t deserve my respect.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Parents on here are something else. I think they never paid attention to their kids education til now. But now they are experts and they are outraged. Most of what you’re complaining about has been in place for 5 years or more. I see posts from a bunch of out of touch whiners. Got to private or move if you think it’s so awful.

So you think APS could not be improved at all? Not even one bit? And that parents who want the system to do better are whiners?

Is this how you deal with other life problems? I find that sad, actually.

No. I think there is always room for improvement. I think the issues identified by the parents on here (and the way they appear to outraged at basic instructional methods and curriculum approaches employed for many years throughout NVA reveal them to be out of touch whiners and complainers.

How about you spend a day in my house watching my child in a full on panic attack and in tears before you call someone else out of touch? I’m not interested in academic pedagogical navel-gazing. I want APS to see that its technological incompetence and its failure to manage its staff (teachers should not punish kids for that incompetence) have turned even my straight A, calm, confident high schooler into a basket case trying to do the school’s job so she doesn’t take the hit to her GPA? I can only imagine how hard this is on kids. My kid’s teachers don’t seem to care. At all. In fact, one of my child’s teachers was overheard on one Monday this spring IN A NAIL SALON saying that she can only get her nails done on Monday because that’s “her day.” Get your house in order APS!

How about you spend a day in mine? I’m an APS teacher. No one I know is punishing kids for issues in Canvas. That’s a bunch of malarkey. I have never been more lenient with late work and that kind of thing. If one of my students communicates any kind of tech issue, I do everything I can to help them. I’ll take an assignment over email, Google, whatever, and everyone I know does, too. I put in crazy hours this year. It has gotten so much better in this last month or so, but I was consistently working 12-15, sometimes 18, hour days. There were a lot of days I never left my house. I have my own kids, too. I wasn’t able to help them with virtual school, but my kids’ teachers were awesome.

One Monday, I dipped out to Costco at lunch time because it’s more efficient without the crowds, and ran into a neighbor. I’m pretty sure she told half our zip code that that’s what we do, because she’s like that. The same woman has always complained about APS, her kids teachers, the curriculum, everything. There are 2000 teachers in APS. I think quality of the staff is excellent, but you may have some variation in 2000. Also… that sounds like a rumor. You heard that, huh?

Junior year is a tough year. I see a lot of the kids overload themselves with AP classes, and then complain about the workload. Some of them have crazy schedules, and I don’t understand how they think they can do all of that. Some of them don’t seem ready for an AP class to me, but they take them, anyway. I don’t know if that’s the case here, but I do see that.

After how hard we’ve all worked this year, it really offends me when I hear people just bash APS. I am proud of the district I work in, and where my kids go to school.

You lost me at Costco on a Monday. I don't go to Costco, or anywhere else, during the workday because I am working.

[Anonymous]

You lost me at Costco on a Monday. I don't go to Costco, or anywhere else, during the workday because I am working.

So you don’t get a lunch break? Please.

[Anonymous]

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You lost me at Costco on a Monday. I don't go to Costco, or anywhere else, during the workday because I am working.

So you don’t get a lunch break? Please.

Exactly. I have worked out on my lunch break for 26 years. Not a teacher, a STEM worker.

My 7th grade son had a great year. Straight As no issues. I wasn’t even involved. He managed on his own.

He had his camera on all of the time and no iPhone allowed during the school day.

[Anonymous]

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You lost me at Costco on a Monday. I don't go to Costco, or anywhere else, during the workday because I am working.

So you don’t get a lunch break? Please.

Yes, I get a half-hour lunch break. I have a job much like a teacher's where I get my evenings and weekends off, but I am expected to be at work during the day. My lunch break is barely long enough to walk my dog and eat a lunch that I prepared the night before. Seriously, you people either have very lax work ethics or you have the kind of job where you can take a conference call at Costco; teachers can't do that.

Ya lost me at Costco on Monday; if you were a teacher at my child's school and I saw you at Costco on Monday (which I wouldn't, because I'm at home working), I'd rat you out to the neighborhood, too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You lost me at Costco on a Monday. I don't go to Costco, or anywhere else, during the workday because I am working.

So you don’t get a lunch break? Please.

Yes, I get a half-hour lunch break. I have a job much like a teacher's where I get my evenings and weekends off, but I am expected to be at work during the day. My lunch break is barely long enough to walk my dog and eat a lunch that I prepared the night before. Seriously, you people either have very lax work ethics or you have the kind of job where you can take a conference call at Costco; teachers can't do that.

Ya lost me at Costco on Monday; if you were a teacher at my child's school and I saw you at Costco on Monday (which I wouldn't, because I'm at home working), I'd rat you out to the neighborhood, too.

Very petty. There’s no way in hell you put in the hours I did this past year.