Real talk: are there going to be enough teachers for summer school?

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Anonymous wrote:Even as some parents are worried that there won’t be enough teachers for summer school, they can’t stop attacking the people they need to volunteer.

Suddenly explaining that MCPS benefits are not that bad is "attacking"? SMH.

Also, they're being PAID. It's not volunteer work.

But they have to volunteer to take the work. No one can be forced to do it. If not enough teachers volunteer, you won’t have summer school. It’s telling that the extra pay isn’t enticing.

Sounds like the salary they get for working 10 months is enough.

I’m working outside at a garden center this summer for a lot less than summer school. I’d rather scrimp during the school year than work summer school.

And that is a perfectly valid choice. It is also a legitimate benefit to have the choice of taking a break from your regular job for two months, that most salaried professionals do not get (and certainly not every year).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Even as some parents are worried that there won’t be enough teachers for summer school, they can’t stop attacking the people they need to volunteer.

Suddenly explaining that MCPS benefits are not that bad is "attacking"? SMH.

Also, they're being PAID. It's not volunteer work.

But they have to volunteer to take the work. No one can be forced to do it. If not enough teachers volunteer, you won’t have summer school. It’s telling that the extra pay isn’t enticing.

Sounds like the salary they get for working 10 months is enough.

I’m working outside at a garden center this summer for a lot less than summer school. I’d rather scrimp during the school year than work summer school.

And that is a perfectly valid choice. It is also a legitimate benefit to have the choice of taking a break from your regular job for two months, that most salaried professionals do not get (and certainly not every year).

Seriously, what is your point? You're acting like it's your first day on the planet. Go find somewhere else to whine about your work schedule.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Even as some parents are worried that there won’t be enough teachers for summer school, they can’t stop attacking the people they need to volunteer.

Suddenly explaining that MCPS benefits are not that bad is "attacking"? SMH.

Also, they're being PAID. It's not volunteer work.

But they have to volunteer to take the work. No one can be forced to do it. If not enough teachers volunteer, you won’t have summer school. It’s telling that the extra pay isn’t enticing.

Sounds like the salary they get for working 10 months is enough.

I’m working outside at a garden center this summer for a lot less than summer school. I’d rather scrimp during the school year than work summer school.

And that is a perfectly valid choice. It is also a legitimate benefit to have the choice of taking a break from your regular job for two months, that most salaried professionals do not get (and certainly not every year).

Seriously, what is your point? You're acting like it's your first day on the planet. Go find somewhere else to whine about your work schedule.

LOL I forgot only teachers can whine (waaaah I have pension wahhhhh) because they are the only ones who have difficult jobs, need child care, who society needs not to quit their jobs, etc. So sorry.

[Anonymous]

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Ok. Even though it off topic for this thread, I’ll bite. Teachers in Maryland hired after 2011 or working since 2011 are the in the “ reformed pension program”. Pensions were cut 20% for future retirees. Since the 1970’s Maryland has cut (reformed) pensions every 10 to 15 years. They always end making younger employees pay more and get less in return. Currently 70% of the money I pay into the pension system each pay period goes to pay current retirees. Pension systems don’t work like 401ks where you get to keep your own money directly. Pay and salary cuts always seem directed at the new and younger teachers, while older or retired teachers still get most of their promised benefits. Additionally the state has forced the counties to contribute more to the pension funds directly in addition to matching what is takenit out of staff salaries.

So, if you want to be fair direct your snark at older or retired teachers. But please pity the newer, younger teachers who won’t get as much of these benefits and will subsidize the older and retired staff.

Overall, I agree that benefits are still better than the private sector. But again, it is not fair to blame teachers for the govt and CEOs not wanting to pay or fix the American health care system. On the flip side I make less money including salaryand benefits than any of my friends with similar education experience.

No wonder teachers are so angry all the time. I'm sorry MCEA has fed you all of these lies.

You will get so much more from your pension than you put in, and even after the pension cut (which is not that bad when you consider teachers also got an increased supplement 3 years prior to the cut). While they may be using current contributions to fund current benefits, that just means that employees younger than you will fund your benefits. Is that a sustainable model? Nope, that's why pensions need to be reformed. But MCPS is not going to cut benefits for current employees, that is what a city facing bankruptcy does, not MoCo. Your pension benefits are extremely valuable and are far, far more generous than the typical worker with a 401k one, even the county employees which have a relatively generous defined contribution plan.

[Anonymous]

Just to get back on topic here, the latest email (sent this morning) notes that the biggest need for summer school teachers is for k-8 positions.

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Anonymous wrote:Even as some parents are worried that there won’t be enough teachers for summer school, they can’t stop attacking the people they need to volunteer.

Suddenly explaining that MCPS benefits are not that bad is "attacking"? SMH.

Also, they're being PAID. It's not volunteer work.

But they have to volunteer to take the work. No one can be forced to do it. If not enough teachers volunteer, you won’t have summer school. It’s telling that the extra pay isn’t enticing.

Sounds like the salary they get for working 10 months is enough.

I’m working outside at a garden center this summer for a lot less than summer school. I’d rather scrimp during the school year than work summer school.

And that is a perfectly valid choice. It is also a legitimate benefit to have the choice of taking a break from your regular job for two months, that most salaried professionals do not get (and certainly not every year).

Seriously, what is your point? You're acting like it's your first day on the planet. Go find somewhere else to whine about your work schedule.

LOL I forgot only teachers can whine (waaaah I have pension wahhhhh) because they are the only ones who have difficult jobs, need child care, who society needs not to quit their jobs, etc. So sorry.

You have some serious problems. I hope you seek help soon.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Even as some parents are worried that there won’t be enough teachers for summer school, they can’t stop attacking the people they need to volunteer.

Suddenly explaining that MCPS benefits are not that bad is "attacking"? SMH.

Also, they're being PAID. It's not volunteer work.

But they have to volunteer to take the work. No one can be forced to do it. If not enough teachers volunteer, you won’t have summer school. It’s telling that the extra pay isn’t enticing.

Sounds like the salary they get for working 10 months is enough.

I’m working outside at a garden center this summer for a lot less than summer school. I’d rather scrimp during the school year than work summer school.

And that is a perfectly valid choice. It is also a legitimate benefit to have the choice of taking a break from your regular job for two months, that most salaried professionals do not get (and certainly not every year).

I think it just speaks so highly of the crab in a barrel mentality of the American workplace that we're just so angry at people for having a better work life balance is ith more built in time off. A lot of countries structure their work differently so that people can take extended time off and recharge and relax. I don't have a lot of high hopes but I hope that maybe the pandemic can demonstrate that people can work flexible hours and still be productive and get their job done without having to be locked into working in the office for 8 to 12 hours

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Even as some parents are worried that there won’t be enough teachers for summer school, they can’t stop attacking the people they need to volunteer.

Suddenly explaining that MCPS benefits are not that bad is "attacking"? SMH.

Also, they're being PAID. It's not volunteer work.

But they have to volunteer to take the work. No one can be forced to do it. If not enough teachers volunteer, you won’t have summer school. It’s telling that the extra pay isn’t enticing.

Sounds like the salary they get for working 10 months is enough.

I’m working outside at a garden center this summer for a lot less than summer school. I’d rather scrimp during the school year than work summer school.

And that is a perfectly valid choice. It is also a legitimate benefit to have the choice of taking a break from your regular job for two months, that most salaried professionals do not get (and certainly not every year).

I think it just speaks so highly of the crab in a barrel mentality of the American workplace that we're just so angry at people for having a better work life balance is ith more built in time off. A lot of countries structure their work differently so that people can take extended time off and recharge and relax. I don't have a lot of high hopes but I hope that maybe the pandemic can demonstrate that people can work flexible hours and still be productive and get their job done without having to be locked into working in the office for 8 to 12 hours

I'm not angry that the benefit exists, I'm angry that the people who have it complain constantly about their "terrible benefits".

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Even as some parents are worried that there won’t be enough teachers for summer school, they can’t stop attacking the people they need to volunteer.

Suddenly explaining that MCPS benefits are not that bad is "attacking"? SMH.

Also, they're being PAID. It's not volunteer work.

But they have to volunteer to take the work. No one can be forced to do it. If not enough teachers volunteer, you won’t have summer school. It’s telling that the extra pay isn’t enticing.

Sounds like the salary they get for working 10 months is enough.

I’m working outside at a garden center this summer for a lot less than summer school. I’d rather scrimp during the school year than work summer school.

And that is a perfectly valid choice. It is also a legitimate benefit to have the choice of taking a break from your regular job for two months, that most salaried professionals do not get (and certainly not every year).

I think it just speaks so highly of the crab in a barrel mentality of the American workplace that we're just so angry at people for having a better work life balance is ith more built in time off. A lot of countries structure their work differently so that people can take extended time off and recharge and relax. I don't have a lot of high hopes but I hope that maybe the pandemic can demonstrate that people can work flexible hours and still be productive and get their job done without having to be locked into working in the office for 8 to 12 hours

I'm not angry that the benefit exists, I'm angry that the people who have it complain constantly about their "terrible benefits".

+1

I'm thrilled if people have the option for that increased balance and then choose it. Great! Please, though, don't choose a specific job in part for its benefits and then turn around and complain about them.

[Anonymous]

I would apply to teacher elementary summer school if MCPS increased the bonus. The bonus should be $1200 for teachers and $900 for para educators. MCPS has the money, so worthier they shell out more money or they will NOT have enough teachers. It really is that simple.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even as some parents are worried that there won’t be enough teachers for summer school, they can’t stop attacking the people they need to volunteer.

Suddenly explaining that MCPS benefits are not that bad is "attacking"? SMH.

Also, they're being PAID. It's not volunteer work.

But they have to volunteer to take the work. No one can be forced to do it. If not enough teachers volunteer, you won’t have summer school. It’s telling that the extra pay isn’t enticing.

Sounds like the salary they get for working 10 months is enough.

I’m working outside at a garden center this summer for a lot less than summer school. I’d rather scrimp during the school year than work summer school.

And that is a perfectly valid choice. It is also a legitimate benefit to have the choice of taking a break from your regular job for two months, that most salaried professionals do not get (and certainly not every year).

Remember teachers don’t get paid for the summers, so it’s not really “off”. Either way, I still have 17 days of mandatory training to complete this summer at $20/hr. Hope it’s relevant to my position!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Even as some parents are worried that there won’t be enough teachers for summer school, they can’t stop attacking the people they need to volunteer.

Suddenly explaining that MCPS benefits are not that bad is "attacking"? SMH.

Also, they're being PAID. It's not volunteer work.

But they have to volunteer to take the work. No one can be forced to do it. If not enough teachers volunteer, you won’t have summer school. It’s telling that the extra pay isn’t enticing.

Sounds like the salary they get for working 10 months is enough.

I’m working outside at a garden center this summer for a lot less than summer school. I’d rather scrimp during the school year than work summer school.

And that is a perfectly valid choice. It is also a legitimate benefit to have the choice of taking a break from your regular job for two months, that most salaried professionals do not get (and certainly not every year).

Remember teachers don’t get paid for the summers, so it’s not really “off”. Either way, I still have 17 days of mandatory training to complete this summer at $20/hr. Hope it’s relevant to my position!

Case and point - thanks for illustrating how absolutely insufferable teachers can be.

[Anonymous]

High school positions are mainly virtual and don’t even meet that often for many classes.

The k-8 positions are mainly in person or require daily zoom school. Staff basically can’t take any days off for any reason. This is incredibly hard for staff who have vacations scheduled, operations, childcare, jury duty, or anything else we try to put off until summer time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Even as some parents are worried that there won’t be enough teachers for summer school, they can’t stop attacking the people they need to volunteer.

Suddenly explaining that MCPS benefits are not that bad is "attacking"? SMH.

Also, they're being PAID. It's not volunteer work.

But they have to volunteer to take the work. No one can be forced to do it. If not enough teachers volunteer, you won’t have summer school. It’s telling that the extra pay isn’t enticing.

Sounds like the salary they get for working 10 months is enough.

I’m working outside at a garden center this summer for a lot less than summer school. I’d rather scrimp during the school year than work summer school.

And that is a perfectly valid choice. It is also a legitimate benefit to have the choice of taking a break from your regular job for two months, that most salaried professionals do not get (and certainly not every year).

I think it just speaks so highly of the crab in a barrel mentality of the American workplace that we're just so angry at people for having a better work life balance is ith more built in time off. A lot of countries structure their work differently so that people can take extended time off and recharge and relax. I don't have a lot of high hopes but I hope that maybe the pandemic can demonstrate that people can work flexible hours and still be productive and get their job done without having to be locked into working in the office for 8 to 12 hours

I'm not angry that the benefit exists, I'm angry that the people who have it complain constantly about their "terrible benefits".

Non-teacher and I'm sick of your posts and people like you. I am a government contractor-my contract changes every 2-3 years. I get months off at a time too. I get paid a full year salary. I negotiate these terms myself. Don't like your own situation? CHANGE IT. Stop belittling others chosen careers because you are miserable in your own. You are like a playground bully in adult form. Time to grow up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Even as some parents are worried that there won’t be enough teachers for summer school, they can’t stop attacking the people they need to volunteer.

Suddenly explaining that MCPS benefits are not that bad is "attacking"? SMH.

Also, they're being PAID. It's not volunteer work.

But they have to volunteer to take the work. No one can be forced to do it. If not enough teachers volunteer, you won’t have summer school. It’s telling that the extra pay isn’t enticing.

Sounds like the salary they get for working 10 months is enough.

I’m working outside at a garden center this summer for a lot less than summer school. I’d rather scrimp during the school year than work summer school.

And that is a perfectly valid choice. It is also a legitimate benefit to have the choice of taking a break from your regular job for two months, that most salaried professionals do not get (and certainly not every year).

Remember teachers don’t get paid for the summers, so it’s not really “off”. Either way, I still have 17 days of mandatory training to complete this summer at $20/hr. Hope it’s relevant to my position!

Case and point - thanks for illustrating how absolutely insufferable teachers can be.

The only insufferable poster here is you. I'm a parent and I'm ashamed of parents like you. We aren't all this way.