How will anti-vaxxers lives be limited?

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Anonymous wrote:This is a very bad death. Very bad. Quick, scary, alone.

So is thrombocytopenia, a brain blood clot, etc.

Is that so infectious that you say good buy to your kids over zoom?

You won't even get the chance. Look dead is dead. Take your chances with the vaccines or the virus. It should be your choice and no one else's business. If the vaccines are so great why won't the manufacturers' accept liability? Yadda yadda yadda but there's a fund for adverse effects...

Would you accept that for any other product? No.

The topic of this thread is how will availability of certain things be limited to people that take the chance of not getting vaccinated. It is not about forcing any person to be vaccinated. It is about what will be available to vaccinated people, and what will be available to unvaccinated people.

Ah, but coercion is force. Bullying is force. Shaming is force. So that's not really what your topic is then is it?

If you are trying to shame me or bully me into not discussing this topic, try again. There are vaxxed and unvaxxed - all fine and good but the two groups are not the same.

They are the same. They are people making individual choices which you have no control over despite your best efforts.

Not the same. the risk of being infecting with the virus and transmitted the virus is not the same in these two groups.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I fail to understand why all the anti-vaxxers in this thread are so upset that private businesses may not allow them on premises. It's literally the free market at work.

Are they upset? They seem to be fine with it.

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Anonymous wrote:I fail to understand why all the anti-vaxxers in this thread are so upset that private businesses may not allow them on premises. It's literally the free market at work.

Are they upset? They seem to be fine with it.

Discussing the prospect of being turned away by private business seems to be interpreted as bullying. Which is a very private language definition of "bullying," but there you go.

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Anonymous wrote:I fail to understand why all the anti-vaxxers in this thread are so upset that private businesses may not allow them on premises. It's literally the free market at work.

Are they upset? They seem to be fine with it.

One of them is upset for sure, because she is having a fit and screaming some nonsense about covid "bullies." Granted she is doing that all over DCUM these days and it is notable because as others pointed out, she doesn't understand the proper use of the term. But yes, at least one anti-vaxxer is upset.

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Anonymous wrote:I fail to understand why all the anti-vaxxers in this thread are so upset that private businesses may not allow them on premises. It's literally the free market at work.

Are they upset? They seem to be fine with it.

Discussing the prospect of being turned away by private business seems to be interpreted as bullying. Which is a very private language definition of "bullying," but there you go.

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Yes, the PP doesn't understand the word "bully" and consistently misuses it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I fail to understand why all the anti-vaxxers in this thread are so upset that private businesses may not allow them on premises. It's literally the free market at work.

Are they upset? They seem to be fine with it.

Thing is, you're full of imagination of what will "happen". No business will thrive if they turn away ~40% of potential patrons. You can huff and puff and use threats, but it simply won't influence what will happen. None of us actually knows. I can assure you I sure as sh1t will not turn away customers, nor will I refuse their money.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I fail to understand why all the anti-vaxxers in this thread are so upset that private businesses may not allow them on premises. It's literally the free market at work.

Are they upset? They seem to be fine with it.

Thing is, you're full of imagination of what will "happen". No business will thrive if they turn away ~40% of potential patrons. You can huff and puff and use threats, but it simply won't influence what will happen. None of us actually knows. I can assure you I sure as sh1t will not turn away customers, nor will I refuse their money.

You are misunderstanding. It is likely you can not make both groups happy nor necessarily retain both groups as customers. If establishment A demands patrons be vaccinated and establishment B does not care....all the vaccinated customers may choose to patronize establishment A. A gets the 60 percent, B gets the 40 percent. make your choice.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I fail to understand why all the anti-vaxxers in this thread are so upset that private businesses may not allow them on premises. It's literally the free market at work.

Are they upset? They seem to be fine with it.

Thing is, you're full of imagination of what will "happen". No business will thrive if they turn away ~40% of potential patrons. You can huff and puff and use threats, but it simply won't influence what will happen. None of us actually knows. I can assure you I sure as sh1t will not turn away customers, nor will I refuse their money.

You are misunderstanding. It is likely you can not make both groups happy nor necessarily retain both groups as customers. If establishment A demands patrons be vaccinated and establishment B does not care....all the vaccinated customers may choose to patronize establishment A. A gets the 60 percent, B gets the 40 percent. make your choice.

Again, you're using your imagination. Businesses want everyone's patronage. There are shades of gray you aren't able to see for some reason. Smart businesses will figure out how to retain and bring in customers, rebuilding and making up for lost revenue. If you put hurdles and barriers in front of peopke, they will go elsewhere.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I fail to understand why all the anti-vaxxers in this thread are so upset that private businesses may not allow them on premises. It's literally the free market at work.

Are they upset? They seem to be fine with it.

Thing is, you're full of imagination of what will "happen". No business will thrive if they turn away ~40% of potential patrons. You can huff and puff and use threats, but it simply won't influence what will happen. None of us actually knows. I can assure you I sure as sh1t will not turn away customers, nor will I refuse their money.

You are misunderstanding. It is likely you can not make both groups happy nor necessarily retain both groups as customers. If establishment A demands patrons be vaccinated and establishment B does not care....all the vaccinated customers may choose to patronize establishment A. A gets the 60 percent, B gets the 40 percent. make your choice.

Again, you're using your imagination. Businesses want everyone's patronage. There are shades of gray you aren't able to see for some reason. Smart businesses will figure out how to retain and bring in customers, rebuilding and making up for lost revenue. If you put hurdles and barriers in front of peopke, they will go elsewhere.

What do you mean my imagination? People have ben deeply affected by this covid pandemic and can choose to patronize businesses that align with their views. They also can patronize businesses where they feel protected.

This happens all the time already. Everything from not going to Chick fil a to refusing to watch Colin Kaepernick play football. Attending an event that requires everyone to enter through a magnetometer. It is real, not imaginary.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I fail to understand why all the anti-vaxxers in this thread are so upset that private businesses may not allow them on premises. It's literally the free market at work.

Are they upset? They seem to be fine with it.

Thing is, you're full of imagination of what will "happen". No business will thrive if they turn away ~40% of potential patrons. You can huff and puff and use threats, but it simply won't influence what will happen. None of us actually knows. I can assure you I sure as sh1t will not turn away customers, nor will I refuse their money.

You are misunderstanding. It is likely you can not make both groups happy nor necessarily retain both groups as customers. If establishment A demands patrons be vaccinated and establishment B does not care....all the vaccinated customers may choose to patronize establishment A. A gets the 60 percent, B gets the 40 percent. make your choice.

Exactly this. I have walked out of places where they were blowing off safety regulations.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I fail to understand why all the anti-vaxxers in this thread are so upset that private businesses may not allow them on premises. It's literally the free market at work.

Are they upset? They seem to be fine with it.

Thing is, you're full of imagination of what will "happen". No business will thrive if they turn away ~40% of potential patrons. You can huff and puff and use threats, but it simply won't influence what will happen. None of us actually knows. I can assure you I sure as sh1t will not turn away customers, nor will I refuse their money.

You are misunderstanding. It is likely you can not make both groups happy nor necessarily retain both groups as customers. If establishment A demands patrons be vaccinated and establishment B does not care....all the vaccinated customers may choose to patronize establishment A. A gets the 60 percent, B gets the 40 percent. make your choice.

Again, you're using your imagination. Businesses want everyone's patronage. There are shades of gray you aren't able to see for some reason. Smart businesses will figure out how to retain and bring in customers, rebuilding and making up for lost revenue. If you put hurdles and barriers in front of peopke, they will go elsewhere.

But then your employees don't get vaccinated, they get sick, and you have to close, and the word goes out like wildfire on social media. That's happened several times in my neighborhood.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is a very bad death. Very bad. Quick, scary, alone.

So is thrombocytopenia, a brain blood clot, etc.

Is that so infectious that you say good buy to your kids over zoom?

Nothing says shock like watching mommy have a stroke at home.

Sorry if that happened to you. Covid deaths are terrible and I have lost family members and it is not a joke and hundreds of thousands of other families have sufferd the same ugly loss.

Thank you but that didn't happen to me. I'm simply saying that saying goodbye to your kids via Zoom is no more or less traumatic then a kid watching their parent stroke out at home. Covid deaths have not cornered the market on tragedy. Kids who have lost parents to vaccine injury? Their pain counts too.

The 20 of them vs. the MILLIONS who have lost their parents to COVID.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I fail to understand why all the anti-vaxxers in this thread are so upset that private businesses may not allow them on premises. It's literally the free market at work.

Are they upset? They seem to be fine with it.

Thing is, you're full of imagination of what will "happen". No business will thrive if they turn away ~40% of potential patrons. You can huff and puff and use threats, but it simply won't influence what will happen. None of us actually knows. I can assure you I sure as sh1t will not turn away customers, nor will I refuse their money.

You are misunderstanding. It is likely you can not make both groups happy nor necessarily retain both groups as customers. If establishment A demands patrons be vaccinated and establishment B does not care....all the vaccinated customers may choose to patronize establishment A. A gets the 60 percent, B gets the 40 percent. make your choice.

Exactly this. I have walked out of places where they were blowing off safety regulations.

You, and <1% of people. The VAST VAST MAJORITY do not care about the arbitrary regulations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I fail to understand why all the anti-vaxxers in this thread are so upset that private businesses may not allow them on premises. It's literally the free market at work.

Are they upset? They seem to be fine with it.

Thing is, you're full of imagination of what will "happen". No business will thrive if they turn away ~40% of potential patrons. You can huff and puff and use threats, but it simply won't influence what will happen. None of us actually knows. I can assure you I sure as sh1t will not turn away customers, nor will I refuse their money.

You are misunderstanding. It is likely you can not make both groups happy nor necessarily retain both groups as customers. If establishment A demands patrons be vaccinated and establishment B does not care....all the vaccinated customers may choose to patronize establishment A. A gets the 60 percent, B gets the 40 percent. make your choice.

Exactly this. I have walked out of places where they were blowing off safety regulations.

You, and <1% of people. The VAST VAST MAJORITY do not care about the arbitrary regulations.

+1

You’re in a small minority. I can promise you people in most other places do not give a crap. Literally I talk to my friends in many other states, and none of them are discussing vaccine vs no vaccine .... NONE of them.

Control what you can control .... perhaps start on working on accepting your lack of control

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I fail to understand why all the anti-vaxxers in this thread are so upset that private businesses may not allow them on premises. It's literally the free market at work.

Are they upset? They seem to be fine with it.

Thing is, you're full of imagination of what will "happen". No business will thrive if they turn away ~40% of potential patrons. You can huff and puff and use threats, but it simply won't influence what will happen. None of us actually knows. I can assure you I sure as sh1t will not turn away customers, nor will I refuse their money.

You are misunderstanding. It is likely you can not make both groups happy nor necessarily retain both groups as customers. If establishment A demands patrons be vaccinated and establishment B does not care....all the vaccinated customers may choose to patronize establishment A. A gets the 60 percent, B gets the 40 percent. make your choice.

Exactly this. I have walked out of places where they were blowing off safety regulations.

You, and <1% of people. The VAST VAST MAJORITY do not care about the arbitrary regulations.

+1

You’re in a small minority. I can promise you people in most other places do not give a crap. Literally I talk to my friends in many other states, and none of them are discussing vaccine vs no vaccine .... NONE of them.

Control what you can control .... perhaps start on working on accepting your lack of control

I call BS. It is a big topic in Midwest state, and among my friends in Florida as well