How will anti-vaxxers lives be limited?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It surprised me that my grandma’s assisted living (in a blue state) is not requiring visitors to be vaccinated. One of my aunts is newly anti-vax and is visiting all the time, despite my mom and other siblings asking her not to. My aunt is not the type who who print up some fake vaccination card, if she was told she couldnt visit her mom I suspect she’d just get the vaccine. If places like that aren’t requiring vaccination it’s hard to see places with less at risk requiring them.

Do residents have to be vaccinated?

Fair point- my understanding is that most if not all residents are but the staff is a mixed bag. So if they mandate among the residents and staff it would be unfair to do so on the visitors. I was just surprised because they went from allowing no visitors to any with no real limitations.

They legally cannot require it or ask. If its an issue, they have no visitors.

Wait, what? What's your source for that claim?

They can legally both ask and require.

Why do you think they can't? (pleasedon'tlethersayHIPAA, pleasedon'tlethersayHIPAA)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It surprised me that my grandma’s assisted living (in a blue state) is not requiring visitors to be vaccinated. One of my aunts is newly anti-vax and is visiting all the time, despite my mom and other siblings asking her not to. My aunt is not the type who who print up some fake vaccination card, if she was told she couldnt visit her mom I suspect she’d just get the vaccine. If places like that aren’t requiring vaccination it’s hard to see places with less at risk requiring them.

Do residents have to be vaccinated?

Fair point- my understanding is that most if not all residents are but the staff is a mixed bag. So if they mandate among the residents and staff it would be unfair to do so on the visitors. I was just surprised because they went from allowing no visitors to any with no real limitations.

They legally cannot require it or ask. If its an issue, they have no visitors.

Wait, what? What's your source for that claim?

They can legally both ask and require.

Why do you think they can't? (pleasedon'tlethersayHIPAA, pleasedon'tlethersayHIPAA)

No, they cannot. Grow up. And, its not fully approved yet. They can restrict visitors but that's it. Even the military cannot require it yet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And should we do more to get them to do the patriotic thing?

No cruises, no international travel, no college.

How else will people who refuse to get the shot be affected?

I have friends who are all upset their kids can't live on campus next year unless they are vaccinated. I don't know what they are going to do.

Colleges and employment.

Want to keep your job get vaccinated.

Want to take a cruise get vaccinated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Aren’t we over this conversation yet ?

No, sadly. Some people will never be happy until everyone makes the same choices as them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It surprised me that my grandma’s assisted living (in a blue state) is not requiring visitors to be vaccinated. One of my aunts is newly anti-vax and is visiting all the time, despite my mom and other siblings asking her not to. My aunt is not the type who who print up some fake vaccination card, if she was told she couldnt visit her mom I suspect she’d just get the vaccine. If places like that aren’t requiring vaccination it’s hard to see places with less at risk requiring them.

Do residents have to be vaccinated?

Fair point- my understanding is that most if not all residents are but the staff is a mixed bag. So if they mandate among the residents and staff it would be unfair to do so on the visitors. I was just surprised because they went from allowing no visitors to any with no real limitations.

They legally cannot require it or ask. If its an issue, they have no visitors.

DP. Then why can universities require? Not saying places should or shouldn’t just not understanding the process.

[Anonymous]

Well if they get sick and die, the gene pool will improve…just sayin

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My cousin is a 49 year old mom, currently on life support due to COVID, and her family is facing a tough decision as her organs are badly damaged and she will not be able to survive without being on some form of life support for the rest of her life.

Her dad, my uncle, works in pathology, he told her and her sister to take this seriously and get vaccinated. Her sister went ahead and got the vaccine. Her mom, who is a crazy Trumpster conspiracy theory mongering anti vaxxer (divorced by my uncle years ago) talked her out of getting the vaccine. And now her asshole anti-vaxxer mom will likely be directly responsible for her daughter dying from COVID because he listened to mom and didn't get it instead of listening to dad and getting it.

So I have a special level of anger for idiotic anti-vaxxers. Whatever "reasons" you THINK you have for playing games and avoiding the vaccine are just plain WRONG. You ARE hurting people.

Man. That is awful. Her own mom has killed her! I'm sure it will be the "libs" fault somehow.

This is what it will be like going forward, though. Hospitals filled with Trumpers since almost all the Dems/Independents will be vaccinated.

You guys believe ANYTHING

"Deny all inconvenient truths" seems to be a major Trumpster defect.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It surprised me that my grandma’s assisted living (in a blue state) is not requiring visitors to be vaccinated. One of my aunts is newly anti-vax and is visiting all the time, despite my mom and other siblings asking her not to. My aunt is not the type who who print up some fake vaccination card, if she was told she couldnt visit her mom I suspect she’d just get the vaccine. If places like that aren’t requiring vaccination it’s hard to see places with less at risk requiring them.

Do residents have to be vaccinated?

Fair point- my understanding is that most if not all residents are but the staff is a mixed bag. So if they mandate among the residents and staff it would be unfair to do so on the visitors. I was just surprised because they went from allowing no visitors to any with no real limitations.

They legally cannot require it or ask. If its an issue, they have no visitors.

Wait, what? What's your source for that claim?

They can legally both ask and require.

Why do you think they can't? (pleasedon'tlethersayHIPAA, pleasedon'tlethersayHIPAA)

No, they cannot. Grow up. And, its not fully approved yet. They can restrict visitors but that's it. Even the military cannot require it yet.

It will be approved soon. I wonder what the rhetoric will be then.

[Anonymous]

Were they ever limited? Anti-vaxxers DGAF

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And should we do more to get them to do the patriotic thing?

No cruises, no international travel, no college.

How else will people who refuse to get the shot be affected?

I have friends who are all upset their kids can't live on campus next year unless they are vaccinated. I don't know what they are going to do.

Colleges and employment.

Want to keep your job get vaccinated.

Want to take a cruise get vaccinated.

Nobody wants to go on a cruise. Sorry. Fetch just ain't happening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And should we do more to get them to do the patriotic thing?

No cruises, no international travel, no college.

How else will people who refuse to get the shot be affected?

I have friends who are all upset their kids can't live on campus next year unless they are vaccinated. I don't know what they are going to do.

Colleges and employment.

Want to keep your job get vaccinated.

Want to take a cruise get vaccinated.

Nobody wants to go on a cruise. Sorry. Fetch just ain't happening.

College is happening and will require vaccinations to be in person for many campuses.

But more importantly, the vaccine is critical to control the pandemic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It surprised me that my grandma’s assisted living (in a blue state) is not requiring visitors to be vaccinated. One of my aunts is newly anti-vax and is visiting all the time, despite my mom and other siblings asking her not to. My aunt is not the type who who print up some fake vaccination card, if she was told she couldnt visit her mom I suspect she’d just get the vaccine. If places like that aren’t requiring vaccination it’s hard to see places with less at risk requiring them.

Do residents have to be vaccinated?

Fair point- my understanding is that most if not all residents are but the staff is a mixed bag. So if they mandate among the residents and staff it would be unfair to do so on the visitors. I was just surprised because they went from allowing no visitors to any with no real limitations.

They legally cannot require it or ask. If its an issue, they have no visitors.

Wait, what? What's your source for that claim?

They can legally both ask and require.

Why do you think they can't? (pleasedon'tlethersayHIPAA, pleasedon'tlethersayHIPAA)

No, they cannot. Grow up. And, its not fully approved yet. They can restrict visitors but that's it. Even the military cannot require it yet.

Based on ... that you don't like it? That's the, um, law you are citing?

[Anonymous]

^^To clarify: they can require it to enter the building and/or stay there, be it employees or visitors. I don't know about residents, but I would not be surprised.

Same as universities.

[Anonymous]

And they certainly can ask. Even if you don't like it, a lot.

[Anonymous]

Healthcare facilities can and do ask if visitors have been vaccinated or if they have come into contact with anyone who has COVID and very much do restrict them.

Personally I think the US should have set up a national system for vaccine cards where you get a card with an encrypted barcode or something like that would have to be presented with ID and screeners would scan them and they would be returned with a match and validation or no match and validation.

It *is* illegal to forge a vaccine card by the way - even though idiots are spending as much as $100 for them rather than just getting the vaccination for free even though they are at this point widely and easily available.