VMPI-ways to speak out

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Anonymous wrote:They only started the public webinars in March so I wouldn’t say it took long......


Website was up since November, essentially the same form as on April 15th.
Principals and other district level people were notified in November.
School board in LCPS was only notified last two weeks, despite LCPS staff having already decided to implement two years early and taking away advancement.
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Anonymous wrote:No - anytime parents or teachers are included in planning I do not think they are really representative of typical views. They could have had parents on this but it likely would have been ones that think all levels in one class is a hunky dory idea. I think it is good the started vetting to the public at large and am only frustrated that it took so long for the negative feedback on tracking to drive a shift. If you ask for input you have to be willing to course correct in response to it.

They only started the public webinars in March so I wouldn’t say it took long......


Website was up since November, essentially the same form as on April 15th.
Principals and other district level people were notified in November.
School board in LCPS was only notified last two weeks, despite LCPS staff having already decided to implement two years early and taking away advancement.


I was referring to the time it took for feedback from the "public at large". The public didn't really hear anything until last month (March).

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Anonymous wrote:People should be forwarding summaries to parents and teachers, try and get the county school board committed to ignoring most of the new plan, particularly that they would continue to have honors classes, advancement, and even separate algebra and geometry classes if possible. School board might have to force the hand of the local committee people working for the district. Some counties have already made changes, but it appears Fairfax has not.


I wonder if the fact that the Assistant Superintendent, Instructional Services Department position (reports to Presidio, the Chief Academic Officier) is vacant has anything to do with the fact that FCPS hasn't done anything on this? Or maybe it's just that they really have been very focused on return-to-school?


FCPS probably already started thinking and planning for VMPI when they heard about it. They usually come up with something behind the scenes and then present to the board for feedback. Reach out to them to Braebrand and Presideo to voice your opinions while it’s still early.
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Anonymous wrote:Complaining here does nothing. I called my Delegate's office and the staffer clearly new nothing about the plan and just repeated two bullets of information. I said -- the plan seems to eliminate all tracking and honors courses. If you understand differently, please let me know. And if that is the case, please ask the Delegate (also the Speaker) if she supports the elimination of honors classes across the state. Waiting to hear back.

My State Senator asked me to tell him more about the proposal.

I asked our principal how it would effect AAP and she didn't even understand the question. It seemed like she was either out of the loop or ducking.

You need to call your reps. The VA DOE is moving this without explaining the implications to elected officials.

https://whosmy.virginiageneralassembly.gov/


it kills AAP. Do you really think gen ed parents watching their kid's standards plummet won't be quick to point out to the state DOE if there is a subset allowed to flaunt the new rules? It should make TJ hilarious too if the math needed for the science classes can't legally be offered



The standards aren't lowered. More kids will meet them.


Just because you set the bar on the ground, does not mean that more kids are achieving.

It just means that anyone who can walk, crawl or roll can make it over the bar, even if they don't learn a single thing.


The standard is the standard. Today, many students don’t meet those standards. And many others accelerate right past the standards.

If we can rework the system to help more kids meet the standard while the accelerated kids can still get AP calculus, then why not?

So if kids can’t pass the current math standard, how are they going to pass the new one? Are they shortening the curriculum? Explain please
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The standard is the standard. Today, many students don’t meet those standards. And many others accelerate right past the standards.

If we can rework the system to help more kids meet the standard while the accelerated kids can still get AP calculus, then why not?

So if kids can’t pass the current math standard, how are they going to pass the new one? Are they shortening the curriculum? Explain please


They claim they are lengthening the curriculum. It should make them less likely to pass, but VA DOE says by virtue of being in the same class with better students they will be inspired to do better themselves, to the point of being able to do 4+ years of material in 3.

Accelerated kids getting AP calculus is not particularly accelerated, and is slower than normal.
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VA DOE says by virtue of being in the same class with better students they will be inspired to do better themselves,


Sure they will. 😂😂😂😂😂

We all know what this is really all about. The existence of advanced classes makes dumb kids and their parents sad, and we can’t have that.

And we’ve already tried the “put dummies in with smart kids to inspire the dummies to improve” approach for decades without success. All it does is make it harder for smart kids to learn.

Bummer for the kids whose parents can’t afford tutors and private school, though.
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There are still a lot of smart high achievers in general
Ed. Not all of them get into gifted programs so I don’t see the need to keep gifted/accelerated kids in the same general Ed class.
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Monica McLaughlin on Fairfax school board is following this issue. Previous poster should send the response you got from FCPS about being unsure of the future status of AAP to her.
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Anonymous wrote:Monica McLaughlin on Fairfax school board is following this issue. Previous poster should send the response you got from FCPS about being unsure of the future status of AAP to her.


It is Meghan. Remember her name and vote for her if you live in her district. She is the only school board member who values education and listens to parents. 2023 is a lkng aay away. Don't forget this past year when the next school board elecfion happens.


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Anonymous wrote:Monica McLaughlin on Fairfax school board is following this issue. Previous poster should send the response you got from FCPS about being unsure of the future status of AAP to her.


It is Meghan. Remember her name and vote for her if you live in her district. She is the only school board member who values education and listens to parents. 2023 is a lkng aay away. Don't forget this past year when the next school board elecfion happens.




Megan may or may not run in 2023, per her. She's my rep.

There are recall petitions for Cohen, Tholen, and Omeish available to sign so that there can be some board turnover before 2023.
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Anonymous wrote:Monica McLaughlin on Fairfax school board is following this issue. Previous poster should send the response you got from FCPS about being unsure of the future status of AAP to her.


It is Meghan. Remember her name and vote for her if you live in her district. She is the only school board member who values education and listens to parents. 2023 is a lkng aay away. Don't forget this past year when the next school board elecfion happens.




Megan may or may not run in 2023, per her. She's my rep.

There are recall petitions for Cohen, Tholen, and Omeish available to sign so that there can be some board turnover before 2023.


Recall petition? Where? I need to get into that for Omeish for sure.
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Anonymous wrote:Monica McLaughlin on Fairfax school board is following this issue. Previous poster should send the response you got from FCPS about being unsure of the future status of AAP to her.


It is Meghan. Remember her name and vote for her if you live in her district. She is the only school board member who values education and listens to parents. 2023 is a lkng aay away. Don't forget this past year when the next school board elecfion happens.




Megan may or may not run in 2023, per her. She's my rep.

There are recall petitions for Cohen, Tholen, and Omeish available to sign so that there can be some board turnover before 2023.


Recall petition? Where? I need to get into that for Omeish for sure.


Email openfcpscoalition@gmail.com for info on signing. I believe they are working on getting more out on their website.
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Looks like schools are doing their own thing that will be in lined with VMPI goals. On another thread, a parent said her MS will no longer offer general Ed classes, only honors. WTF?
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