VMPI-ways to speak out

[Anonymous]

Write to your state delegate, state senator and school board reps: https://whosmy.virginiageneralassembly.gov/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree part of the challenge is that people do not believe they are literally talking about having all kids K-10 do the exact same thing since that sounds so ridiculous.

Another big part of the problem is the fact that that info is not really clearly conveyed in the main VDOE materials. It is clear in one or two of the wonky resource materials and it is VERY clear in some of the webinar links but they are burying in the written info the fact that a major part of this shift is the 100% lock step learning for all K-10 kids.

yes can you link to the wonky resource that is most informative?

Agree with a pp - this doc listed as a resource material on the VMPI page is the wonky thing I meant.
https://www.mathedleadership.org/docs/resources/positionpapers/NCSMPositionPaper19.pdf

But at least two of the webinars I think including the last one had some oral commentary about the evils of tracking. By tracking they mean what we use here.

[Anonymous]

This should be brought up in the governor's race.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This should be brought up in the governor's race.

The dems appointed these folks, and were clear when they were elected that dismantling education was their goal.

Virginia democrats have become the anti education party as soon as they siezed power.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This should be brought up in the governor's race.

The dems appointed these folks, and were clear when they were elected that dismantling education was their goal.

Virginia democrats have become the anti education party as soon as they siezed power.

No Democrat has stood with fully reopening schools in fall, sadly. The ones in the House of Delegates or state Senate at the last legislative session voted against SB 1303 to a woman or man. They didn't just vote against the emergency clause, they voted against the whole bill. The Ds who voted for the bill (and there were many) aren't running for governor. No D has come out and said (s)he will appoint someone other than Atif as Secretary of Education. These are the areas to press your Ds on, if you are a D.

Obviously the Rs will head in a different direction, but it will include things that aren't palatable to most in northern Virginia.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thank you.

This is a serious issue for all students in Virginia.

Eliminating all levels in math through 10th grade, with no students allowed to take anything higher than Algebra 2 in 11th grade (usually taken in 9th or 10th in fcps and other NOVA districts) essentially eliminates calculus for all students.

This proposal is a travesty.

Virginia is trying to slip if through while everyone is focusing on closed schools.

They are hoping parents of elementary and middle school students don't notice what they are doing until it is too late.

I cannot believe the local and national media is not all over this.

It is an unexceptable dumbing down of Virginia's math curriculum.

Parents everywhere should be outraged.

Go to the va.gov site to see what they are proposing.

The VA department of education is putting a place that will make math education in Virginia among the worst in the country.

I don't see the problem. This was how my state was growing up (Ohio). No one took Alg 2 prior to 11th grade. Every student who wanted it went on to college. Kids who wanted more of a challenge did so in clubs and their own time (college classes).

Very few kids are truly gifted to the point they need to be on an accelerated track. That's my anecdotal observation. But, also, the observations of AAP teacher friends.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This should be brought up in the governor's race.

The dems appointed these folks, and were clear when they were elected that dismantling education was their goal.

Virginia democrats have become the anti education party as soon as they siezed power.

People cannot have a reasonable conversation with you when you say things like this.

Dismantling?

Seizing (it's e before i, actually)? No sweetie, that's called voting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I said it in the AAP forum as well-share it with all your parent groups, etc on social media. Not everyone reads DCUM.

The problem is, the VA department of education plan sounds so unbelievable and crazy, anyone who talks about the facts as presented in their plan sounds like a wacko.

What the VA department of ed has on their website is so crazy, no one believes it is true until you go and read it. I sure didn't. Then I read it and flipped out. My college kkd just rolled her eyes at me, then went to the VA site just to prove that I was crazy. Then she read it and flipped out too.

It is so important that you not just tell people about it, but get them to actually read what Virginia states it plans to do to dismantal inequities in math achievement in Virginia. They are literally prlposing to drop all math education to the lowest possible level of instruction, with zero differentiation even in high school, no honors, no advanced math, no calculus, no multivariable calculus. Nada. Zip. Zilch.

This affects all students 7th grade and younger.

Parents, please go to the VA department of education website and read their proposal. Then get everyone you know to read the proposal, directly from the source. It is bad. It is dangerous.

Then please vote education, and only education this November.

How does this affect 7th graders? DC is currently in Algebra I Honors.. please explain.. thank you

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thank you.

This is a serious issue for all students in Virginia.

Eliminating all levels in math through 10th grade, with no students allowed to take anything higher than Algebra 2 in 11th grade (usually taken in 9th or 10th in fcps and other NOVA districts) essentially eliminates calculus for all students.

This proposal is a travesty.

Virginia is trying to slip if through while everyone is focusing on closed schools.

They are hoping parents of elementary and middle school students don't notice what they are doing until it is too late.

I cannot believe the local and national media is not all over this.

It is an unexceptable dumbing down of Virginia's math curriculum.

Parents everywhere should be outraged.

Go to the va.gov site to see what they are proposing.

The VA department of education is putting a place that will make math education in Virginia among the worst in the country.

I don't see the problem. This was how my state was growing up (Ohio). No one took Alg 2 prior to 11th grade. Every student who wanted it went on to college. Kids who wanted more of a challenge did so in clubs and their own time (college classes).

Very few kids are truly gifted to the point they need to be on an accelerated track. That's my anecdotal observation. But, also, the observations of AAP teacher friends.

Really? I was in high school in Florida in the late 80s/early 90s and took Algebra 2 in 10th grade. And I wasn't a genius or anything.

Not taking Alg 2 prior to 11th grade is really a disservice to our kids. They will not be competitive. Do you really want to put our math kids so much behind the curve when it comes to their international peers? That makes zero sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thank you.

This is a serious issue for all students in Virginia.

Eliminating all levels in math through 10th grade, with no students allowed to take anything higher than Algebra 2 in 11th grade (usually taken in 9th or 10th in fcps and other NOVA districts) essentially eliminates calculus for all students.

This proposal is a travesty.

Virginia is trying to slip if through while everyone is focusing on closed schools.

They are hoping parents of elementary and middle school students don't notice what they are doing until it is too late.

I cannot believe the local and national media is not all over this.

It is an unexceptable dumbing down of Virginia's math curriculum.

Parents everywhere should be outraged.

Go to the va.gov site to see what they are proposing.

The VA department of education is putting a place that will make math education in Virginia among the worst in the country.

I don't see the problem. This was how my state was growing up (Ohio). No one took Alg 2 prior to 11th grade. Every student who wanted it went on to college. Kids who wanted more of a challenge did so in clubs and their own time (college classes).

Very few kids are truly gifted to the point they need to be on an accelerated track. That's my anecdotal observation. But, also, the observations of AAP teacher friends.

30 years back in Ohio is far different than how education is now.

In fcps the smartest kids start algebra in 6th. The only kids taking algebra in 9th with no calculis are the ones who really, really struggle with math.

Your memories from 3 decades ago do not align with how schools are today.

VA dems want to bring math education standards to a remedial level and to among the lowest in the country, not to mention the world.

This is a tremwndous issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I said it in the AAP forum as well-share it with all your parent groups, etc on social media. Not everyone reads DCUM.

The problem is, the VA department of education plan sounds so unbelievable and crazy, anyone who talks about the facts as presented in their plan sounds like a wacko.

What the VA department of ed has on their website is so crazy, no one believes it is true until you go and read it. I sure didn't. Then I read it and flipped out. My college kkd just rolled her eyes at me, then went to the VA site just to prove that I was crazy. Then she read it and flipped out too.

It is so important that you not just tell people about it, but get them to actually read what Virginia states it plans to do to dismantal inequities in math achievement in Virginia. They are literally prlposing to drop all math education to the lowest possible level of instruction, with zero differentiation even in high school, no honors, no advanced math, no calculus, no multivariable calculus. Nada. Zip. Zilch.

This affects all students 7th grade and younger.

Parents, please go to the VA department of education website and read their proposal. Then get everyone you know to read the proposal, directly from the source. It is bad. It is dangerous.

Then please vote education, and only education this November.

How does this affect 7th graders? DC is currently in Algebra I Honors.. please explain.. thank you

The full implementation of this is supposed to occur with the class of 2026.

Not sure how they plan to move backwards in the math standards, but that is their goal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I said it in the AAP forum as well-share it with all your parent groups, etc on social media. Not everyone reads DCUM.

The problem is, the VA department of education plan sounds so unbelievable and crazy, anyone who talks about the facts as presented in their plan sounds like a wacko.

What the VA department of ed has on their website is so crazy, no one believes it is true until you go and read it. I sure didn't. Then I read it and flipped out. My college kkd just rolled her eyes at me, then went to the VA site just to prove that I was crazy. Then she read it and flipped out too.

It is so important that you not just tell people about it, but get them to actually read what Virginia states it plans to do to dismantal inequities in math achievement in Virginia. They are literally prlposing to drop all math education to the lowest possible level of instruction, with zero differentiation even in high school, no honors, no advanced math, no calculus, no multivariable calculus. Nada. Zip. Zilch.

This affects all students 7th grade and younger.

Parents, please go to the VA department of education website and read their proposal. Then get everyone you know to read the proposal, directly from the source. It is bad. It is dangerous.

Then please vote education, and only education this November.

And there you have it. Anti-progress propaganda by RWNJs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This should be brought up in the governor's race.

The dems appointed these folks, and were clear when they were elected that dismantling education was their goal.

Virginia democrats have become the anti education party as soon as they siezed power.

People cannot have a reasonable conversation with you when you say things like this.

Dismantling?

Seizing (it's e before i, actually)? No sweetie, that's called voting.

Phone typo. Who cares.

Who would have thought the dems would become so anti education so quickly?

[Anonymous]

VA dems want to bring math education standards to a remedial level and to among the lowest in the country, not to mention the world.

Stop politicizing math.

This is a broad reform that is nationally in response to the over-acceleration of math in recent decades. AP calculus is a reasonable option for 12th graders with STEM interests.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

VA dems want to bring math education standards to a remedial level and to among the lowest in the country, not to mention the world.

Stop politicizing math.

This is a broad reform that is nationally in response to the over-acceleration of math in recent decades. AP calculus is a reasonable option for 12th graders with STEM interests.

It's likely this will not be possible, despite their listing it as an option. Look at the available courses for 11th grade, the prerequisites are not there.
Kids who are capable of taking calculus will not be able to because they were held back in middle school and early high school, and only the top kids
learning extra classes outside school will be able to take calculus, or at least be ready for it..