VMPI-ways to speak out

[Anonymous]

Not only is this taking away accelerated math, they are claiming they are taking the weakest kids and pushing them into harder classes. Algebra is a 9th grade course on the normal track. Now they are saying everyone gets it in 8th grade at the latest, and algebra 2 in 10th grade. The courses are blended, so they are also getting some geometry in 8th grade, as well as statistics, modeling, and data analysis.

I don't see how this would reduce the disparity in SOL pass scores by forcing weaker kids into harder classes and putting stronger math kids into easier classes.

[Anonymous]

People need to sign recall petitions for the FCPS and LCPS school board. While they are not about math, the people being targeted are generally the ones likely to support VMPI.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not only is this taking away accelerated math, they are claiming they are taking the weakest kids and pushing them into harder classes. Algebra is a 9th grade course on the normal track. Now they are saying everyone gets it in 8th grade at the latest, and algebra 2 in 10th grade. The courses are blended, so they are also getting some geometry in 8th grade, as well as statistics, modeling, and data analysis.

I don't see how this would reduce the disparity in SOL pass scores by forcing weaker kids into harder classes and putting stronger math kids into easier classes.

Lies....

[Anonymous]

Not lies. It is easy to guess how this will be implemented, with school districts treating it as including algebra 2, because that's that VMPI tells them while the actual class is less than that. The path to calculus is severely reduced.

[Anonymous]

When you have programs like whole language/ balanced literacy/ Lucy Calkins for reading and Everyday math that doesn’t emphasize basic math skills you have generations of kids who are so below grade level they give up and do the minimum. All of this talk of equity and this is what doesn’t get talked about. If you aren’t reading well at the end of first grade there needs to be a massive amount of money spent to get these kids up to grade level using researched based phonics programs. All this money for equity training should be poured into intensive practice intervention in early grades.

VMPI will ruin public education in Virginia if it is implemented.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When you have programs like whole language/ balanced literacy/ Lucy Calkins for reading and Everyday math that doesn’t emphasize basic math skills you have generations of kids who are so below grade level they give up and do the minimum. All of this talk of equity and this is what doesn’t get talked about. If you aren’t reading well at the end of first grade there needs to be a massive amount of money spent to get these kids up to grade level using researched based phonics programs. All this money for equity training should be poured into intensive practice intervention in early grades.

VMPI will ruin public education in Virginia if it is implemented.

How will blending algebra & geometry concepts will ruin education?

Why are you so anti data science?

[Anonymous]

It is not the blending, it is the watering down of classes, and the change in philosophy away from homework and rote memorization.
The watering down takes away advanced math opportunities for many.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is not the blending, it is the watering down of classes, and the change in philosophy away from homework and rote memorization.
The watering down takes away advanced math opportunities for many.

As a parent of ES kids, this is what concerns me. They've tried these buzz words, or similar buzz words that mean the same thing, before. The excuse for why they don't work is usually inadequate teacher training and poor implementation. Assuming that's true, maybe the grand ideas just don't work in our classrooms???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is not the blending, it is the watering down of classes, and the change in philosophy away from homework and rote memorization.
The watering down takes away advanced math opportunities for many.

how?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When you have programs like whole language/ balanced literacy/ Lucy Calkins for reading and Everyday math that doesn’t emphasize basic math skills you have generations of kids who are so below grade level they give up and do the minimum. All of this talk of equity and this is what doesn’t get talked about. If you aren’t reading well at the end of first grade there needs to be a massive amount of money spent to get these kids up to grade level using researched based phonics programs. All this money for equity training should be poured into intensive practice intervention in early grades.

VMPI will ruin public education in Virginia if it is implemented.

We do have elections this fall. You know educrats are in trouble when the NAACP finally after decades of saying nothing produces a statement on language arts. NAACP better get on this math pronto.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is not the blending, it is the watering down of classes, and the change in philosophy away from homework and rote memorization.
The watering down takes away advanced math opportunities for many.

how?

They have now taken a watered down class, which makes them less able to take advanced classes.
Algebra 2 is a prerequisite for precalculus and then calculus. Kids who have taken a watered down algebra 2(and I think even that is being generous given what VMPI has been saying about how this shouldn't be required for high school students to take) will need extra instruction to be able to move on to calculus.
Plus their pre-calculus is also watered down- their chart says a semester course for precalc, and in the video they suggested an applied trig class with precalc.
To get an idea, I took a look at one of the high schools used in the Railside study. They currently have a calculus class which is running way behind, introducing derivatives topics into February, and barely covering integrals. They had extra credits of writing essays on your favorite female inventor.

[Anonymous]

Has Fairfax made any moves to roll back math advancement like VMPI wants?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is not the blending, it is the watering down of classes, and the change in philosophy away from homework and rote memorization.
The watering down takes away advanced math opportunities for many.

how?

They have now taken a watered down class, which makes them less able to take advanced classes.
Algebra 2 is a prerequisite for precalculus and then calculus. Kids who have taken a watered down algebra 2(and I think even that is being generous given what VMPI has been saying about how this shouldn't be required for high school students to take) will need extra instruction to be able to move on to calculus.
Plus their pre-calculus is also watered down- their chart says a semester course for precalc, and in the video they suggested an applied trig class with precalc.
To get an idea, I took a look at one of the high schools used in the Railside study. They currently have a calculus class which is running way behind, introducing derivatives topics into February, and barely covering integrals. They had extra credits of writing essays on your favorite female inventor.

You’re making that all up.

The Alg 2 concepts will be in elements & pre-calc.

Kids can still take as many advanced classes as they do today.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is not the blending, it is the watering down of classes, and the change in philosophy away from homework and rote memorization.
The watering down takes away advanced math opportunities for many.

how?

They have now taken a watered down class, which makes them less able to take advanced classes.
Algebra 2 is a prerequisite for precalculus and then calculus. Kids who have taken a watered down algebra 2(and I think even that is being generous given what VMPI has been saying about how this shouldn't be required for high school students to take) will need extra instruction to be able to move on to calculus.
Plus their pre-calculus is also watered down- their chart says a semester course for precalc, and in the video they suggested an applied trig class with precalc.
To get an idea, I took a look at one of the high schools used in the Railside study. They currently have a calculus class which is running way behind, introducing derivatives topics into February, and barely covering integrals. They had extra credits of writing essays on your favorite female inventor.

You’re making that all up.

The Alg 2 concepts will be in elements & pre-calc.

Kids can still take as many advanced classes as they do today.

While it is a continuum, pushing concepts to pre-calc means the classes are watered down, and kids will be behind on taking calculus in 12th grade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is not the blending, it is the watering down of classes, and the change in philosophy away from homework and rote memorization.
The watering down takes away advanced math opportunities for many.

how?

They have now taken a watered down class, which makes them less able to take advanced classes.
Algebra 2 is a prerequisite for precalculus and then calculus. Kids who have taken a watered down algebra 2(and I think even that is being generous given what VMPI has been saying about how this shouldn't be required for high school students to take) will need extra instruction to be able to move on to calculus.
Plus their pre-calculus is also watered down- their chart says a semester course for precalc, and in the video they suggested an applied trig class with precalc.
To get an idea, I took a look at one of the high schools used in the Railside study. They currently have a calculus class which is running way behind, introducing derivatives topics into February, and barely covering integrals. They had extra credits of writing essays on your favorite female inventor.

You’re making that all up.

The Alg 2 concepts will be in elements & pre-calc.

Kids can still take as many advanced classes as they do today.

While it is a continuum, pushing concepts to pre-calc means the classes are watered down, and kids will be behind on taking calculus in 12th grade.

No, the content is being blended and shifted.

Schools can still offer acceleration - just like they do today - to take calculus in jr or sr year (or even earlier).