What is your take on the Angelina Jolie/Brad Pitt divorce saga? What happened on the plane?

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Anonymous wrote:No winners here. Those kids must be very screwed up. She did get a partial victory in the sense that she was able to ice him out for a long time, and make sure the kids' bond was mostly broken. Very sad.

+1. Is she just a super vindictive and petty person? Their kids are better off having relationships with both parents. It’s extremely difficult to believe Brad did anything so horrible that he should lose access to his children.

I have no trouble believing she is a vindictive and petty person. She also seems like a classic "my way or the highway" person who refuses to lose, ever. I also find it hard to envision him doing anything to justify this hard line.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems a custody ruling could be close. Hope so, for the kids sakes. Parental alienation is real, and she is awful. I don't for a sake believe there was ever domestic violence.

https://pagesix.com/2021/05/25/angelina-jolie-says-judge-in-brad-pitt-divorce-wont-let-children-testify/

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Wow. She’s already talking about appealing the decision. One gets the sense that, unless she gets what she wants, she will be fighting this custody battle until the kids have all reached 18 years of age. I can’t imagine the legal bills.

She's really desperate to get full custody, not just to stick it to him, but so she can settle overseas as she prefers. Delaying still keeps custody in her favor, but doesn't get her what she most wants. But the judge has now made it full custody is not on the table, and likely primary is not either. Good.

+1 - I refuse to believe Brad Pitt is some monster. And while I liked them together and have always given her a pass on some of her nuttier behavior, if either of the two of them has exhibited a history of instability during their lives, it's her. And she's digging a deep hole here by attacking the judge. Judges don't like that. And they like it even less when you AGREED to the judge in the first place. I don't know what happened on that plane, but it should be a high bar to deprive a parent of access to their child.

You can refuse to believe it, but it doesn’t mean he isn’t a bad guy.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems a custody ruling could be close. Hope so, for the kids sakes. Parental alienation is real, and she is awful. I don't for a sake believe there was ever domestic violence.

https://pagesix.com/2021/05/25/angelina-jolie-says-judge-in-brad-pitt-divorce-wont-let-children-testify/

*second not sake

Wow. She’s already talking about appealing the decision. One gets the sense that, unless she gets what she wants, she will be fighting this custody battle until the kids have all reached 18 years of age. I can’t imagine the legal bills.

She's really desperate to get full custody, not just to stick it to him, but so she can settle overseas as she prefers. Delaying still keeps custody in her favor, but doesn't get her what she most wants. But the judge has now made it full custody is not on the table, and likely primary is not either. Good.

+1 - I refuse to believe Brad Pitt is some monster. And while I liked them together and have always given her a pass on some of her nuttier behavior, if either of the two of them has exhibited a history of instability during their lives, it's her. And she's digging a deep hole here by attacking the judge. Judges don't like that. And they like it even less when you AGREED to the judge in the first place. I don't know what happened on that plane, but it should be a high bar to deprive a parent of access to their child.

You can refuse to believe it, but it doesn’t mean he isn’t a bad guy.

+1 I think he’s an alcoholic and nothing an alcoholic does can surprise me at this point.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems a custody ruling could be close. Hope so, for the kids sakes. Parental alienation is real, and she is awful. I don't for a sake believe there was ever domestic violence.

https://pagesix.com/2021/05/25/angelina-jolie-says-judge-in-brad-pitt-divorce-wont-let-children-testify/

*second not sake

Wow. She’s already talking about appealing the decision. One gets the sense that, unless she gets what she wants, she will be fighting this custody battle until the kids have all reached 18 years of age. I can’t imagine the legal bills.

She's really desperate to get full custody, not just to stick it to him, but so she can settle overseas as she prefers. Delaying still keeps custody in her favor, but doesn't get her what she most wants. But the judge has now made it full custody is not on the table, and likely primary is not either. Good.

+1 - I refuse to believe Brad Pitt is some monster. And while I liked them together and have always given her a pass on some of her nuttier behavior, if either of the two of them has exhibited a history of instability during their lives, it's her. And she's digging a deep hole here by attacking the judge. Judges don't like that. And they like it even less when you AGREED to the judge in the first place. I don't know what happened on that plane, but it should be a high bar to deprive a parent of access to their child.

You can refuse to believe it, but it doesn’t mean he isn’t a bad guy.

+1 I think he’s an alcoholic and nothing an alcoholic does can surprise me at this point.

DP. Brad doesn’t have a track record of being abusive, and he seems better liked among his peers than she is. Based on both of their known personal histories, she’s much more erratic and unstable than he is.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems a custody ruling could be close. Hope so, for the kids sakes. Parental alienation is real, and she is awful. I don't for a sake believe there was ever domestic violence.

https://pagesix.com/2021/05/25/angelina-jolie-says-judge-in-brad-pitt-divorce-wont-let-children-testify/

*second not sake

Wow. She’s already talking about appealing the decision. One gets the sense that, unless she gets what she wants, she will be fighting this custody battle until the kids have all reached 18 years of age. I can’t imagine the legal bills.

She's really desperate to get full custody, not just to stick it to him, but so she can settle overseas as she prefers. Delaying still keeps custody in her favor, but doesn't get her what she most wants. But the judge has now made it full custody is not on the table, and likely primary is not either. Good.

+1 - I refuse to believe Brad Pitt is some monster. And while I liked them together and have always given her a pass on some of her nuttier behavior, if either of the two of them has exhibited a history of instability during their lives, it's her. And she's digging a deep hole here by attacking the judge. Judges don't like that. And they like it even less when you AGREED to the judge in the first place. I don't know what happened on that plane, but it should be a high bar to deprive a parent of access to their child.

You can refuse to believe it, but it doesn’t mean he isn’t a bad guy.

+1 I think he’s an alcoholic and nothing an alcoholic does can surprise me at this point.

DP. Brad doesn’t have a track record of being abusive, and he seems better liked among his peers than she is. Based on both of their known personal histories, she’s much more erratic and unstable than he is.

And there's been nothing to suggest he deserved to be cut out of his kids' lives.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems a custody ruling could be close. Hope so, for the kids sakes. Parental alienation is real, and she is awful. I don't for a sake believe there was ever domestic violence.

https://pagesix.com/2021/05/25/angelina-jolie-says-judge-in-brad-pitt-divorce-wont-let-children-testify/

*second not sake

Wow. She’s already talking about appealing the decision. One gets the sense that, unless she gets what she wants, she will be fighting this custody battle until the kids have all reached 18 years of age. I can’t imagine the legal bills.

She's really desperate to get full custody, not just to stick it to him, but so she can settle overseas as she prefers. Delaying still keeps custody in her favor, but doesn't get her what she most wants. But the judge has now made it full custody is not on the table, and likely primary is not either. Good.

+1 - I refuse to believe Brad Pitt is some monster. And while I liked them together and have always given her a pass on some of her nuttier behavior, if either of the two of them has exhibited a history of instability during their lives, it's her. And she's digging a deep hole here by attacking the judge. Judges don't like that. And they like it even less when you AGREED to the judge in the first place. I don't know what happened on that plane, but it should be a high bar to deprive a parent of access to their child.

You can refuse to believe it, but it doesn’t mean he isn’t a bad guy.

+1 I think he’s an alcoholic and nothing an alcoholic does can surprise me at this point.

DP. Brad doesn’t have a track record of being abusive, and he seems better liked among his peers than she is. Based on both of their known personal histories, she’s much more erratic and unstable than he is.

And there's been nothing to suggest he deserved to be cut out of his kids' lives.

I think they're probably both egomaniacal jerks, but she's the worse of the two.

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He strikes me as a somewhat distant father. Because she’s obviously terrible and he did nothing to get his kids away from her. The real headline is that the kids are clearly secondary to whatever drama they refuse to give up.

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I think it’s a window into Jolie’s mind that she’s the daughter of that nutjob Jon Voight and that they’ve had a very strained relationship her whole life. Also that she was hospitalized for anorexia as a teenager and quite obviously still struggles to maintain a healthy weight - that is, heavy enough. Anorexia is notoriously incurable and the most deadly of psychiatric disorders.

The gamut of weirdness Jolie has exhibited over her time in the public eye and the collecting of foreign born adopted children reminds me of Mia Farrow, another unbalanced person who was all about making her breakup from Woody Allen as toxic as possible and making it a lifelong ongoing drama that has damaged their kids and her kids and lots of other people in the collateral damage.

Both of them seem like histrionic personalities, maybe borderline personality disorder is at play. Both of them have messed up their kids in very serious ways by undermining healthy relationships with fathers and other extended family members. Neither is a good mother in my book.

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Anonymous wrote:He strikes me as a somewhat distant father. Because she’s obviously terrible and he did nothing to get his kids away from her. The real headline is that the kids are clearly secondary to whatever drama they refuse to give up.

He strikes me as a totally checked out father. Which, given the bizarre childhood that Jolie made sure to give the children, is reasonable. But that was years ago and he cleaned up and tried to be more a part of the children's lives. Of course Jolie didn't want that to happen. She has been in complete control of their lives for years and years.

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The older adopted kids supposedly don’t want to see him, which isn’t surprising given that she successfully alienated them from him.

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Anonymous wrote:The older adopted kids supposedly don’t want to see him, which isn’t surprising given that she successfully alienated them from him.

Or they know the worst of him and are opting out.

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Anonymous wrote:The older adopted kids supposedly don’t want to see him, which isn’t surprising given that she successfully alienated them from him.

Or they know the worst of him and are opting out.

They've been divorcing for over 4 years. She's had that long to alienate them from their father.

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Anonymous wrote:The older adopted kids supposedly don’t want to see him, which isn’t surprising given that she successfully alienated them from him.

Or they know the worst of him and are opting out.

They've been divorcing for over 4 years. She's had that long to alienate them from their father.

Why is it so hard for you to believe he could be at fault? Having been raised around chill, charismatic alcoholics who turn in to freaking nightmares I tend to think the kids could be acting rationally.

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Anonymous wrote:No winners here. Those kids must be very screwed up. She did get a partial victory in the sense that she was able to ice him out for a long time, and make sure the kids' bond was mostly broken. Very sad.

The kids aren’t babies though. Maybe she’s trying to protect the kids — who have decided for their own reasons that they don’t want him to have custody and decision- making powers over them. It does happen, it it may have much more to do with him as a father than anything else.
While there are no winners here, being forced by the courts to be in the custody of someone that you feel isn’t a good parent can leave you feeling very helpless and very screwed.

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Anonymous wrote:No winners here. Those kids must be very screwed up. She did get a partial victory in the sense that she was able to ice him out for a long time, and make sure the kids' bond was mostly broken. Very sad.

The kids aren’t babies though. Maybe she’s trying to protect the kids — who have decided for their own reasons that they don’t want him to have custody and decision- making powers over them. It does happen, it it may have much more to do with him as a father than anything else.
While there are no winners here, being forced by the courts to be in the custody of someone that you feel isn’t a good parent can leave you feeling very helpless and very screwed.

Yes, of course children make decisions and decide they don't want to see a parent. That doesn't mean they should get their wish. Children are children, not adults.