Which summer swim clubs are opening (nova)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:An outdoor pool with limited number of users (50), who bring their own chairs, is much less of a virus vector than these other phase 2 activities: indoor gyms, salons, spas, indoor restaurants, churches, etc.

It is very frustrating that it is just easier for politicians to cancel things for kids that don't have lobbyists or bring money to the state.

Any activities that have very young kids are going to be hard to keep the kids 6' apart from others.

OK, let's just say oh it's too hard and throw our hands up. Who cares about young kids right? They don't deserve any sort of outside recreation or break from the monotony of months at home. No pools, no playgrounds, no zoo, no library, no sports, no school. All because they have no voice.

This is exactly how I feel, thank you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I see most of the complaining about the governor and his pages and pages of crap restrictions that are hard to interpret and don’t really give any answers.

He had pages on youth sports yet they have to be 10’ apart. And no shared equipment. Just say they can’t do anything but tennis or golf. Or people will just interpret and do what they want.

I guess kids can do practices with their own equipment but its pretty hard to stay 10 feet apart. I think people are going to ignore the 10 feet rule.

[Anonymous]

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I guess kids can do practices with their own equipment but its pretty hard to stay 10 feet apart. I think people are going to ignore the 10 feet rule.

But if the rule is 10' apart and some parents do care that social distancing is maintained, does that mean the coach or manager or whomever can remove your child? I want things open just as much as the next person, but if you know that your children will be unable to abide by the restrictions, will you keep them away from others or say "too bad"?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I guess kids can do practices with their own equipment but its pretty hard to stay 10 feet apart. I think people are going to ignore the 10 feet rule.

But if the rule is 10' apart and some parents do care that social distancing is maintained, does that mean the coach or manager or whomever can remove your child? I want things open just as much as the next person, but if you know that your children will be unable to abide by the restrictions, will you keep them away from others or say "too bad"?

I think the league and coach all have to be on the same page and allow the exception.

The parents that will be mad are the ones who don’t feel comfortable yet but cry unfair that the team is still practicing and not following the guidelines.

[Anonymous]

how will kids be 10 feet apart when swimming, they all end up at the end to wait their turn or they will drown.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:how will kids be 10 feet apart when swimming, they all end up at the end to wait their turn or they will drown.

I don’t understand your question.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I guess kids can do practices with their own equipment but its pretty hard to stay 10 feet apart. I think people are going to ignore the 10 feet rule.

But if the rule is 10' apart and some parents do care that social distancing is maintained, does that mean the coach or manager or whomever can remove your child? I want things open just as much as the next person, but if you know that your children will be unable to abide by the restrictions, will you keep them away from others or say "too bad"?

I think the league and coach all have to be on the same page and allow the exception.

The parents that will be mad are the ones who don’t feel comfortable yet but cry unfair that the team is still practicing and not following the guidelines.

Or the parents who don't care about the guidelines and are willing to accept risk will be mad if the league and coaches respect what the state is saying.

[Anonymous]

go to USA swimming websites, they have action plans listed showing how kids share a lane socially distanced. usually 2-4 swimmers per lane. kids need to keep swimming and not gather at the end. if they need to rest, they get out of the pool and sit on a red X until time to swim again. that's why it is harder with younger and weaker swimmers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I guess kids can do practices with their own equipment but its pretty hard to stay 10 feet apart. I think people are going to ignore the 10 feet rule.

But if the rule is 10' apart and some parents do care that social distancing is maintained, does that mean the coach or manager or whomever can remove your child? I want things open just as much as the next person, but if you know that your children will be unable to abide by the restrictions, will you keep them away from others or say "too bad"?

I think the league and coach all have to be on the same page and allow the exception.

The parents that will be mad are the ones who don’t feel comfortable yet but cry unfair that the team is still practicing and not following the guidelines.

Or the parents who don't care about the guidelines and are willing to accept risk will be mad if the league and coaches respect what the state is saying.

Yes no answer. Gov should just say no team sports in phase 2.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:An outdoor pool with limited number of users (50), who bring their own chairs, is much less of a virus vector than these other phase 2 activities: indoor gyms, salons, spas, indoor restaurants, churches, etc.

It is very frustrating that it is just easier for politicians to cancel things for kids that don't have lobbyists or bring money to the state.

Any activities that have very young kids are going to be hard to keep the kids 6' apart from others.

OK, let's just say oh it's too hard and throw our hands up. Who cares about young kids right? They don't deserve any sort of outside recreation or break from the monotony of months at home. No pools, no playgrounds, no zoo, no library, no sports, no school. All because they have no voice.

Who said your kid can’t have tons of recreation outside? Rent a boat. Go fishing. Go hiking. Play basketball or tennis. Go on a nature walk. Throw rocks into a creek. That’s different from having 30 young kids and you’re spending the entire practice saying, “too close, ella!” “Back up, Johnny!” This isn’t about trashing young kids and their interests. It’s about being able to follow guidelines. For our swim team, for example, we have 55 min practices, two coaches. No way they can spend their time ensuring the little ones are 6’ apart for the limited 55 min while also getting a decent practice in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:An outdoor pool with limited number of users (50), who bring their own chairs, is much less of a virus vector than these other phase 2 activities: indoor gyms, salons, spas, indoor restaurants, churches, etc.

It is very frustrating that it is just easier for politicians to cancel things for kids that don't have lobbyists or bring money to the state.

Any activities that have very young kids are going to be hard to keep the kids 6' apart from others.

OK, let's just say oh it's too hard and throw our hands up. Who cares about young kids right? They don't deserve any sort of outside recreation or break from the monotony of months at home. No pools, no playgrounds, no zoo, no library, no sports, no school. All because they have no voice.

Who said your kid can’t have tons of recreation outside? Rent a boat. Go fishing. Go hiking. Play basketball or tennis. Go on a nature walk. Throw rocks into a creek. That’s different from having 30 young kids and you’re spending the entire practice saying, “too close, ella!” “Back up, Johnny!” This isn’t about trashing young kids and their interests. It’s about being able to follow guidelines. For our swim team, for example, we have 55 min practices, two coaches. No way they can spend their time ensuring the little ones are 6’ apart for the limited 55 min while also getting a decent practice in.

Gee thanks for the suggestions. We have only done all of those things (other than renting a boat... seriously?) a bunch of times already in the 80+ days at home.

Who said anything about swim team practice? I had hoped for my oldest to do swim team for the first time this year but no way that's happening even in a modified way because the youngest kids still need hands-on instruction from coaches. This is about the fact that people think that because might be hard for some little kids to social distance from other families in a 25 meter pool when using the pool recreationally, then let's just give up. Young kids aren't even allowed at pools without a parent or adult caregiver. If we are trusting adults to social distance while at a restaurant, mall, gym or hair salon (which oh by the way they almost certainly aren't, at least not perfectly), why aren't we trusting that adults supervising children at a pool can make sure their kids are following the rules?

[Anonymous]

If kids are young enough to not be potty trained, I hope they aren't allowed in the pool this summer. Sorry, but since we know the virus can be passed through fecal matter, it's too risky.

EVERYONE can justify why this or that is vital or most important for his/her kids. Go look at some of the school forums. There are pages of arguments as to whether elementary, middle or high schools need to be in person because each one is "the most" important. It isn't easy for anyone right now. If you can't get to a pool, it isn't ideal but it isn't the end of the world either.

--I'll also add that my husband has rented a small boat lots of times to take the kids fishing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:An outdoor pool with limited number of users (50), who bring their own chairs, is much less of a virus vector than these other phase 2 activities: indoor gyms, salons, spas, indoor restaurants, churches, etc.

It is very frustrating that it is just easier for politicians to cancel things for kids that don't have lobbyists or bring money to the state.

Any activities that have very young kids are going to be hard to keep the kids 6' apart from others.

OK, let's just say oh it's too hard and throw our hands up. Who cares about young kids right? They don't deserve any sort of outside recreation or break from the monotony of months at home. No pools, no playgrounds, no zoo, no library, no sports, no school. All because they have no voice.

Who said your kid can’t have tons of recreation outside? Rent a boat. Go fishing. Go hiking. Play basketball or tennis. Go on a nature walk. Throw rocks into a creek. That’s different from having 30 young kids and you’re spending the entire practice saying, “too close, ella!” “Back up, Johnny!” This isn’t about trashing young kids and their interests. It’s about being able to follow guidelines. For our swim team, for example, we have 55 min practices, two coaches. No way they can spend their time ensuring the little ones are 6’ apart for the limited 55 min while also getting a decent practice in.

Gee thanks for the suggestions. We have only done all of those things (other than renting a boat... seriously?) a bunch of times already in the 80+ days at home.

Who said anything about swim team practice? I had hoped for my oldest to do swim team for the first time this year but no way that's happening even in a modified way because the youngest kids still need hands-on instruction from coaches. This is about the fact that people think that because might be hard for some little kids to social distance from other families in a 25 meter pool when using the pool recreationally, then let's just give up. Young kids aren't even allowed at pools without a parent or adult caregiver. If we are trusting adults to social distance while at a restaurant, mall, gym or hair salon (which oh by the way they almost certainly aren't, at least not perfectly), why aren't we trusting that adults supervising children at a pool can make sure their kids are following the rules?

Because the kids in my neighborhood are climbing ball over each other while the parents BS in the street. THAT'S WHY!

[Anonymous]

^^ It’s absurd that you think we shouldn’t give up bc it will be hard for smaller kids to keep 6’ apart. You believe that we should find a way. There is no way unless the lifeguards are watching more for social distancing than they are for safety.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^ It’s absurd that you think we shouldn’t give up bc it will be hard for smaller kids to keep 6’ apart. You believe that we should find a way. There is no way unless the lifeguards are watching more for social distancing than they are for safety.

It's absurd because the fear of everyone dying is long since past. Please look past dcum and try looking at any number of data sites and you will see this thing is essentially on its last legs. Phase 2 should be instituted immediately and last for 2 weeks. We should be in phase 3 by July 4 and out of it in August.

All sports should resume to their full extent after July 4. If you'd like, we can go back and forth and I will post stats and then you will insult me bc that's what this forum does.