ECNL & DA Nationals Results

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:There are zero super clubs in our region.

Examples of a super club would be:

HAWKS
STARS
PDA
CASL
TOPHAT
SURF
REAL COLORADO

It's all about geographical dominance via locking down the area. Essentially creating a monopoly. Sucess is a byproduct.


Certainly hard to be a super club when they’re handing out ECNL patches to every Tom, Dick and Harry.


From Baltimore to DC we 10 GDA/ECNL clubs so about 200 “elite” players per age group. Not that many elite players per age group. And don’t forget pipeline! That would make 11 elite teams right pipeline dad.


Or DA patches like Metro United, Arlington, Long Island, Albertson, PA Classics. NYSC, every single Florida team. I could go on but you get my point.


In this area VDA provides the easy comparison. They were very weak in the DA and now better than average in the ECNL. Do I need to hold your hand through this one? GDA >>> ECNL. In the mid-atlantic and everywhere else.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are zero super clubs in our region.

Examples of a super club would be:

HAWKS
STARS
PDA
CASL
TOPHAT
SURF
REAL COLORADO

It's all about geographical dominance via locking down the area. Essentially creating a monopoly. Sucess is a byproduct.


Certainly hard to be a super club when they’re handing out ECNL patches to every Tom, Dick and Harry.


From Baltimore to DC we 10 GDA/ECNL clubs so about 200 “elite” players per age group. Not that many elite players per age group. And don’t forget pipeline! That would make 11 elite teams right pipeline dad.


Or DA patches like Metro United, Arlington, Long Island, Albertson, PA Classics. NYSC, every single Florida team. I could go on but you get my point.


In this area VDA provides the easy comparison. They were very weak in the DA and now better than average in the ECNL. Do I need to hold your hand through this one? GDA >>> ECNL. In the mid-atlantic and everywhere else.


05/06 are the only teams that had ecnl success. Neither played DA. 04 performed about how they did in DA. 03 actually performed better in the DA. 01/02 were terrible in DA and terrible in ecnl. So no easy comparison there.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are zero super clubs in our region.

Examples of a super club would be:

HAWKS
STARS
PDA
CASL
TOPHAT
SURF
REAL COLORADO

It's all about geographical dominance via locking down the area. Essentially creating a monopoly. Sucess is a byproduct.


Certainly hard to be a super club when they’re handing out ECNL patches to every Tom, Dick and Harry.


From Baltimore to DC we 10 GDA/ECNL clubs so about 200 “elite” players per age group. Not that many elite players per age group. And don’t forget pipeline! That would make 11 elite teams right pipeline dad.


Or DA patches like Metro United, Arlington, Long Island, Albertson, PA Classics. NYSC, every single Florida team. I could go on but you get my point.


In this area VDA provides the easy comparison. They were very weak in the DA and now better than average in the ECNL. Do I need to hold your hand through this one? GDA >>> ECNL. In the mid-atlantic and everywhere else.


05/06 are the only teams that had ecnl success. Neither played DA. 04 performed about how they did in DA. 03 actually performed better in the DA. 01/02 were terrible in DA and terrible in ecnl. So no easy comparison there.


Thanks for “setting the record straight,” VDA dad
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are zero super clubs in our region.

Examples of a super club would be:

HAWKS
STARS
PDA
CASL
TOPHAT
SURF
REAL COLORADO

It's all about geographical dominance via locking down the area. Essentially creating a monopoly. Sucess is a byproduct.


Certainly hard to be a super club when they’re handing out ECNL patches to every Tom, Dick and Harry.


From Baltimore to DC we 10 GDA/ECNL clubs so about 200 “elite” players per age group. Not that many elite players per age group. And don’t forget pipeline! That would make 11 elite teams right pipeline dad.


Or DA patches like Metro United, Arlington, Long Island, Albertson, PA Classics. NYSC, every single Florida team. I could go on but you get my point.


In this area VDA provides the easy comparison. They were very weak in the DA and now better than average in the ECNL. Do I need to hold your hand through this one? GDA >>> ECNL. In the mid-atlantic and everywhere else.


05/06 are the only teams that had ecnl success. Neither played DA. 04 performed about how they did in DA. 03 actually performed better in the DA. 01/02 were terrible in DA and terrible in ecnl. So no easy comparison there.


Thanks for “setting the record straight,” VDA dad


No problem. Have a great night, FCV dad.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are zero super clubs in our region.

Examples of a super club would be:

HAWKS
STARS
PDA
CASL
TOPHAT
SURF
REAL COLORADO

It's all about geographical dominance via locking down the area. Essentially creating a monopoly. Sucess is a byproduct.


Certainly hard to be a super club when they’re handing out ECNL patches to every Tom, Dick and Harry.



From Baltimore to DC we 10 GDA/ECNL clubs so about 200 “elite” players per age group. Not that many elite players per age group. And don’t forget pipeline! That would make 11 elite teams right pipeline dad.


Or DA patches like Metro United, Arlington, Long Island, Albertson, PA Classics. NYSC, every single Florida team. I could go on but you get my point.


In this area VDA provides the easy comparison. They were very weak in the DA and now better than average in the ECNL. Do I need to hold your hand through this one? GDA >>> ECNL. In the mid-atlantic and everywhere else.


05/06 are the only teams that had ecnl success. Neither played DA. 04 performed about how they did in DA. 03 actually performed better in the DA. 01/02 were terrible in DA and terrible in ecnl. So no easy comparison there.


Thanks for “setting the record straight,” VDA dad


No problem. Have a great night, FCV dad.


What is telling are the repeated and consistent not-so-close results between VDA and FCV when VDA was in the GDA. Also telling are the scorelines between VDA and the top teams in the GDA MA conference. VDA took a beating. Meanwhile, in the U15 and younger age groups, VDA among the strongest in ECNL. 2+2=4. Even in the grossly diluted MA conferences, GDA>>>>ECNL.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are zero super clubs in our region.

Examples of a super club would be:

HAWKS
STARS
PDA
CASL
TOPHAT
SURF
REAL COLORADO

It's all about geographical dominance via locking down the area. Essentially creating a monopoly. Sucess is a byproduct.


Certainly hard to be a super club when they’re handing out ECNL patches to every Tom, Dick and Harry.


From Baltimore to DC we 10 GDA/ECNL clubs so about 200 “elite” players per age group. Not that many elite players per age group. And don’t forget pipeline! That would make 11 elite teams right pipeline dad.


Or DA patches like Metro United, Arlington, Long Island, Albertson, PA Classics. NYSC, every single Florida team. I could go on but you get my point.


In this area VDA provides the easy comparison. They were very weak in the DA and now better than average in the ECNL. Do I need to hold your hand through this one? GDA >>> ECNL. In the mid-atlantic and everywhere else.


Not at all... In the Northeast, ECNL is much stronger (PDA, FC Stars, World Class)... NEFC is the top GDA club in the NE (check out some of the 7-0, 8-0, 9-0 scorelines with the Long Island GDA teams) and they would jump ship in a hot second if they could move to ECNL.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are zero super clubs in our region.

Examples of a super club would be:

HAWKS
STARS
PDA
CASL
TOPHAT
SURF
REAL COLORADO

It's all about geographical dominance via locking down the area. Essentially creating a monopoly. Sucess is a byproduct.


Certainly hard to be a super club when they’re handing out ECNL patches to every Tom, Dick and Harry.


From Baltimore to DC we 10 GDA/ECNL clubs so about 200 “elite” players per age group. Not that many elite players per age group. And don’t forget pipeline! That would make 11 elite teams right pipeline dad.


Or DA patches like Metro United, Arlington, Long Island, Albertson, PA Classics. NYSC, every single Florida team. I could go on but you get my point.


In this area VDA provides the easy comparison. They were very weak in the DA and now better than average in the ECNL. Do I need to hold your hand through this one? GDA >>> ECNL. In the mid-atlantic and everywhere else.


Not at all... In the Northeast, ECNL is much stronger (PDA, FC Stars, World Class)... NEFC is the top GDA club in the NE (check out some of the 7-0, 8-0, 9-0 scorelines with the Long Island GDA teams) and they would jump ship in a hot second if they could move to ECNL.


You don't play in the North East Conference.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are zero super clubs in our region.

Examples of a super club would be:

HAWKS
STARS
PDA
CASL
TOPHAT
SURF
REAL COLORADO

It's all about geographical dominance via locking down the area. Essentially creating a monopoly. Sucess is a byproduct.


Certainly hard to be a super club when they’re handing out ECNL patches to every Tom, Dick and Harry.



From Baltimore to DC we 10 GDA/ECNL clubs so about 200 “elite” players per age group. Not that many elite players per age group. And don’t forget pipeline! That would make 11 elite teams right pipeline dad.


Or DA patches like Metro United, Arlington, Long Island, Albertson, PA Classics. NYSC, every single Florida team. I could go on but you get my point.


In this area VDA provides the easy comparison. They were very weak in the DA and now better than average in the ECNL. Do I need to hold your hand through this one? GDA >>> ECNL. In the mid-atlantic and everywhere else.


05/06 are the only teams that had ecnl success. Neither played DA. 04 performed about how they did in DA. 03 actually performed better in the DA. 01/02 were terrible in DA and terrible in ecnl. So no easy comparison there.


Thanks for “setting the record straight,” VDA dad


No problem. Have a great night, FCV dad.


What is telling are the repeated and consistent not-so-close results between VDA and FCV when VDA was in the GDA. Also telling are the scorelines between VDA and the top teams in the GDA MA conference. VDA took a beating. Meanwhile, in the U15 and younger age groups, VDA among the strongest in ECNL. 2+2=4. Even in the grossly diluted MA conferences, GDA>>>>ECNL.


FCV is definitely better than vda 04 and older. What’s your point?

Neither the ecnl or da MA conferences are particularly strong. Signed, ECNL Parent.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are zero super clubs in our region.

Examples of a super club would be:

HAWKS
STARS
PDA
CASL
TOPHAT
SURF
REAL COLORADO

It's all about geographical dominance via locking down the area. Essentially creating a monopoly. Sucess is a byproduct.


Certainly hard to be a super club when they’re handing out ECNL patches to every Tom, Dick and Harry.


From Baltimore to DC we 10 GDA/ECNL clubs so about 200 “elite” players per age group. Not that many elite players per age group. And don’t forget pipeline! That would make 11 elite teams right pipeline dad.


Or DA patches like Metro United, Arlington, Long Island, Albertson, PA Classics. NYSC, every single Florida team. I could go on but you get my point.


In this area VDA provides the easy comparison. They were very weak in the DA and now better than average in the ECNL. Do I need to hold your hand through this one? GDA >>> ECNL. In the mid-atlantic and everywhere else.


Not at all... In the Northeast, ECNL is much stronger (PDA, FC Stars, World Class)... NEFC is the top GDA club in the NE (check out some of the 7-0, 8-0, 9-0 scorelines with the Long Island GDA teams) and they would jump ship in a hot second if they could move to ECNL.


You don't play in the North East Conference.


I don't, but my kid does.... Just responding to the comment that "GDA>>>ECNL. In the mid-atlantic and everywhere else" It's just not the case.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are zero super clubs in our region.

Examples of a super club would be:

HAWKS
STARS
PDA
CASL
TOPHAT
SURF
REAL COLORADO

It's all about geographical dominance via locking down the area. Essentially creating a monopoly. Sucess is a byproduct.


Certainly hard to be a super club when they’re handing out ECNL patches to every Tom, Dick and Harry.


From Baltimore to DC we 10 GDA/ECNL clubs so about 200 “elite” players per age group. Not that many elite players per age group. And don’t forget pipeline! That would make 11 elite teams right pipeline dad.


Or DA patches like Metro United, Arlington, Long Island, Albertson, PA Classics. NYSC, every single Florida team. I could go on but you get my point.


In this area VDA provides the easy comparison. They were very weak in the DA and now better than average in the ECNL. Do I need to hold your hand through this one? GDA >>> ECNL. In the mid-atlantic and everywhere else.


Not at all... In the Northeast, ECNL is much stronger (PDA, FC Stars, World Class)... NEFC is the top GDA club in the NE (check out some of the 7-0, 8-0, 9-0 scorelines with the Long Island GDA teams) and they would jump ship in a hot second if they could move to ECNL.


You don't play in the North East Conference.


I don't, but my kid does.... Just responding to the comment that "GDA>>>ECNL. In the mid-atlantic and everywhere else" It's just not the case.


The "everywhere else" has been pretty debunked. ECNL and GDA strength is very much region by region, of that there is no dispute.

The Mid Atlantic in ECNL is weak. The Mid Atlantic in GDA is stronger than MA ECNL but far from as strong as ECNL North East Conference.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are zero super clubs in our region.

Examples of a super club would be:

HAWKS
STARS
PDA
CASL
TOPHAT
SURF
REAL COLORADO

It's all about geographical dominance via locking down the area. Essentially creating a monopoly. Sucess is a byproduct.


Certainly hard to be a super club when they’re handing out ECNL patches to every Tom, Dick and Harry.


From Baltimore to DC we 10 GDA/ECNL clubs so about 200 “elite” players per age group. Not that many elite players per age group. And don’t forget pipeline! That would make 11 elite teams right pipeline dad.


Or DA patches like Metro United, Arlington, Long Island, Albertson, PA Classics. NYSC, every single Florida team. I could go on but you get my point.


In this area VDA provides the easy comparison. They were very weak in the DA and now better than average in the ECNL. Do I need to hold your hand through this one? GDA >>> ECNL. In the mid-atlantic and everywhere else.


Not at all... In the Northeast, ECNL is much stronger (PDA, FC Stars, World Class)... NEFC is the top GDA club in the NE (check out some of the 7-0, 8-0, 9-0 scorelines with the Long Island GDA teams) and they would jump ship in a hot second if they could move to ECNL.


You don't play in the North East Conference.


I don't, but my kid does.... Just responding to the comment that "GDA>>>ECNL. In the mid-atlantic and everywhere else" It's just not the case.


The "everywhere else" has been pretty debunked. ECNL and GDA strength is very much region by region, of that there is no dispute.

The Mid Atlantic in ECNL is weak. The Mid Atlantic in GDA is stronger than MA ECNL but far from as strong as ECNL North East Conference.


Bobby and Diane would be proud of you.

Maybe they'll give you a discount.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are zero super clubs in our region.

Examples of a super club would be:

HAWKS
STARS
PDA
CASL
TOPHAT
SURF
REAL COLORADO

It's all about geographical dominance via locking down the area. Essentially creating a monopoly. Sucess is a byproduct.


Certainly hard to be a super club when they’re handing out ECNL patches to every Tom, Dick and Harry.


From Baltimore to DC we 10 GDA/ECNL clubs so about 200 “elite” players per age group. Not that many elite players per age group. And don’t forget pipeline! That would make 11 elite teams right pipeline dad.


Or DA patches like Metro United, Arlington, Long Island, Albertson, PA Classics. NYSC, every single Florida team. I could go on but you get my point.


In this area VDA provides the easy comparison. They were very weak in the DA and now better than average in the ECNL. Do I need to hold your hand through this one? GDA >>> ECNL. In the mid-atlantic and everywhere else.


Not at all... In the Northeast, ECNL is much stronger (PDA, FC Stars, World Class)... NEFC is the top GDA club in the NE (check out some of the 7-0, 8-0, 9-0 scorelines with the Long Island GDA teams) and they would jump ship in a hot second if they could move to ECNL.


You don't play in the North East Conference.


I don't, but my kid does.... Just responding to the comment that "GDA>>>ECNL. In the mid-atlantic and everywhere else" It's just not the case.


The "everywhere else" has been pretty debunked. ECNL and GDA strength is very much region by region, of that there is no dispute.

The Mid Atlantic in ECNL is weak. The Mid Atlantic in GDA is stronger than MA ECNL but far from as strong as ECNL North East Conference.


Bobby and Diane would be proud of you.

Maybe they'll give you a discount.


I think that is a pretty fair assessment. The Mid Atlantic ECNL is weak. The Mid Atlantic GDA is stronger than the MA ECNL. The North East ECNL is among the strongest conferences in the nation regardless of league.

Exactly what problem do you have with that assessment?
Anonymous
And the local options to play in the North East ECNL Conference are MD United and Bethesda. Neither of which are dominate in their Conference. Each club has a top team across all ages but most teams are middle to bottom middle of the pack.

This just demonstrates our regions talent dilution. There just isn't really a local club worth driving for so just find a close place where your kid can play and be happy.
Anonymous
PDA is the real deal. Even if DA is better, the fact that PDA brought home multiple titles says enough. PDA is a super club.

https://www.soccerwire.com/news/ecnl-national-finals-conclude-with-u14-u17-title-matches-in-richmond-va/
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:PDA is the real deal. Even if DA is better, the fact that PDA brought home multiple titles says enough. PDA is a super club.

https://www.soccerwire.com/news/ecnl-national-finals-conclude-with-u14-u17-title-matches-in-richmond-va/


PDA is one of those clubs that doesn't need a league. They went back to ECNL because they can charge for two ECNL teams and pull it off. It isn't about any ideological belief in this league versus that league. ECNL gave them two teams and a showcase to host. ANY club takes that deal 10 out of 10 times but not many clubs can demand that kind of a deal.

There are only 5 or so clubs in the nation with that kind of cache though the rest are just not that different than any other club.
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