DOJ argues that migrant children should not receive toothbrushes or soap

[Anonymous]

Huh...it’s almost as if some sort of “arrest and let go” policy would be better suited given the limited resources....

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Anonymous wrote:@Kaivan Shroff
To put denying $10,000 of soap and toothpaste to detained migrant children into context....over $100,000,000 of US taxpayer money has gone towards Trump's golf trips.

Ouch. That reach had to have pulled a muscle.

I suppose the truth hurts. One could also compare the $100,000,000 in extra Secret Service costs for Melania to stay in NYC so the President's child wouldn't have to switch schools mid-year. But yes, let's complain about the cost of soap.

Weird. If Democrats gave a crap they would have appropriated enough and planned ahead. You did read that a member of Congress was responsible for getting the ball rolling on getting these kids into more ratio appropriate and better conditions. So, you see, screaming at the very people who have been sounding the alarm about this crisis will only make you hoarse.

Last I remember, Republicans were in charge of the Presidency and the Senate. So if this were a priority to them they could have fixed it yesterday. But no, they'd rather "build a wall" and help their crony construction buddies than take care of the well-being of children.

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Anonymous wrote:Lawyers who went to talk to the children give their eyewitness report:

Children described to us that they’ve been there for three weeks or longer. And so, immediately from that population that we were trying to triage, they were filthy dirty, there was mucus on their shirts, the shirts were dirty. We saw breast milk on the shirts. There was food on the shirts, and the pants as well. They told us that they were hungry. They told us that some of them had not showered or had not showered until the day or two days before we arrived. Many of them described that they only brushed their teeth once. This facility knew last week that we were coming. The government knew three weeks ago that we were coming.

So, in any event, the children told us that nobody’s taking care of them, so that basically the older children are trying to take care of the younger children. The guards are asking the younger children or the older children, “Who wants to take care of this little boy? Who wants to take of this little girl?” and they’ll bring in a two-year-old, a three-year-old, a four-year-old. And then the littlest kids are expected to be taken care of by the older kids, but then some of the oldest children lose interest in it, and little children get handed off to other children. And sometimes we hear about the littlest children being alone by themselves on the floor.


Almost every child that we interviewed had a parent or relative in the United States. Many of them had parents in the United States and were coming here to be with their parents. Some of the children that we interviewed had been separated from their parents. Most of them were separated from other adult relatives. Almost all the children came across with an adult family member and were separated from them by the Border Patrol. Some of them were separated from their parents themselves; other times it was a grandmother or aunt or an older sibling. We don’t know where the parents are being kept.

There are some other stories that we’ve heard from the children, such as that one of the guards has an older child, who’s seventeen, serve as the unofficial guard inside the room. So he tells the kids what to do, and he tries to keep the room neat and straighten up the mattresses and everything. Now, the guards reward him with extra food, and when a seven-year-old saw that this older boy was getting extra food by being helpful, he asked if he could help clean up the room and keep it neat so that he, too, could get extra food. And the seventeen-year-old chastised him for this, and then when an older sibling tried to stand up for his little brother, the guard intervened and reprimanded both the little boy and his older brother.

Even the little things—when they are transporting the babies, transporting the toddlers and the preschoolers, they are not putting them in infant seats or booster seats, and they are driving along Texas highways, all of which require children to be properly placed in the vehicle.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/inside-a-texas-building-where-the-government-is-holding-immigrant-children?fbclid=IwAR22eMsT0l9RWGdM2P0OGK45fvc_NjJpn3Gmkfxa26o-hPvV6s62Mpss-nY

So unbelievably sad. It's a modern day internment camp for children.

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if I was hearing Veronica Escobar correctly, it actually sounded like some of the people who were working at these facilities were the ones coming forward to the lawyers.

so maybe some of them have a heart?

[Anonymous]

where the eff are they sending these kids they just removed from the facility in Clint?

[Anonymous]

Trump is learning the same thing Obama learned - trying to deter these people from wanting to come here doesn't work because ANYTHING is better than what they face in their home countries.

So treat those who are here with dignity and compassion as we should as the "greatest country on Earth." And work on policies to help the countries these migrants are coming from so they don't feel like they have to leave to survive.

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Anonymous wrote:the problem with this "it's only one night" BS is that these kids are NOT being held only one night.

Also, did people miss the part about the lice combs being used by MULTIPLE kids? That is NOT OK.

The specific facility without toothbrushes and soap is 24 hour or less processing center.

My kids used the same lice comb. You have to clean it between uses. Have you read that they're moving from kid to kid w/o sanitizing the combs in boiling water?

If you treated your kids like this someone would call CPS. But you know that and are just trolling.

Why would I troll? I've called CPS on a few occasions. I know what abuse is- physical, emotional, and sexual.

But you believe what you want. I really don't care.

I'm still asking what you want them to do. If there isn't enough space, for example, where do they sleep? And if they're in close quarters, they will continue to pass along lice and illnesses. Sleeping on a cot won't stop the lice, which takes DAYS to remove. Sleeping on a cot won't stop the spread of illnesses. Sleeping in close quarters won't prevent any sexual misconduct from occurring either.

I am sure these BP folks are frustrated and tired, and thus, taking some cruel measures. Of course that's wrong, but this job - similar to some military experiences - comes with its own PTSD. BP also have families - many of them - which means they themselves have to protect their health.

So it's easy to read a story in The New Yorker, for example, and then make a generalization about all detention camp conditions and all BP. I know, however, with 100% certainty that you would not last a day in that job. I don't care how compassionate you THINK you are, but it's easy to become hardened b/c of unbearable and unmanageable situations.

You’re absolutely right. I would not last a day working as a guard in a concentration camp, punishing kids for losing lice combs, leaving sick kids unattended until lawyers showed up...I am quite proud of the fact that that is not a job I could do.

BP wouldn't know what working at concentration camps is like either since they don't work at any. They work at detention centers...but not concentration camps. People who call them concentration camps are idiots.

I work with CPB, for for them but with them. They're sick and tired of the rhetoric from stupid liberals...specifically since 62% of them are Hispanic themselves.
IN any case, the ones to blame are the illegal aliens.

[Anonymous]

are they actually tracking these kids at this time? I get a bad feeling we're back to the situation last year with no real tracking system being used.

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BP wouldn't know what working at concentration camps is like either since they don't work at any. They work at detention centers...but not concentration camps. People who call them concentration camps are idiots.

I work with CPB, for for them but with them. They're sick and tired of the rhetoric from stupid liberals...specifically since 62% of them are Hispanic themselves.
IN any case, the ones to blame are the illegal aliens.

Right right, sorry. They are abusing kids at DETENTION CENTERS, not CONCENTRATION CAMPS...so stupidly liberal of me. That makes it all ok.

So ok that even Pence said the kids should have toothbrushes and now they’ve all been moved...so I guess it wasn’t all as kosher as you monsters would like to believe. You’re here doubling down while the government quickly reacts to the outcry.

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you are free to blame adults all you want

BUT THESE ARE CHILDREN, FFS

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Anonymous wrote:you are free to blame adults all you want

BUT THESE ARE CHILDREN, FFS

+1

Children who had families, that they were forcibly separated from, for the sole reason of punishment.

[Anonymous]

academics defend the use of the term concentration camp:

https://www.newsweek.com/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-concentration-camps-immigrants-detention-centers-southern-border-experts-1445483

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Anonymous wrote:the problem with this "it's only one night" BS is that these kids are NOT being held only one night.

Also, did people miss the part about the lice combs being used by MULTIPLE kids? That is NOT OK.

The specific facility without toothbrushes and soap is 24 hour or less processing center.

My kids used the same lice comb. You have to clean it between uses. Have you read that they're moving from kid to kid w/o sanitizing the combs in boiling water?

If you treated your kids like this someone would call CPS. But you know that and are just trolling.

Why would I troll? I've called CPS on a few occasions. I know what abuse is- physical, emotional, and sexual.

But you believe what you want. I really don't care.

I'm still asking what you want them to do. If there isn't enough space, for example, where do they sleep? And if they're in close quarters, they will continue to pass along lice and illnesses. Sleeping on a cot won't stop the lice, which takes DAYS to remove. Sleeping on a cot won't stop the spread of illnesses. Sleeping in close quarters won't prevent any sexual misconduct from occurring either.

I am sure these BP folks are frustrated and tired, and thus, taking some cruel measures. Of course that's wrong, but this job - similar to some military experiences - comes with its own PTSD. BP also have families - many of them - which means they themselves have to protect their health.

So it's easy to read a story in The New Yorker, for example, and then make a generalization about all detention camp conditions and all BP. I know, however, with 100% certainty that you would not last a day in that job. I don't care how compassionate you THINK you are, but it's easy to become hardened b/c of unbearable and unmanageable situations.

You’re absolutely right. I would not last a day working as a guard in a concentration camp, punishing kids for losing lice combs, leaving sick kids unattended until lawyers showed up...I am quite proud of the fact that that is not a job I could do.

BP wouldn't know what working at concentration camps is like either since they don't work at any. They work at detention centers...but not concentration camps. People who call them concentration camps are idiots.

I work with CPB, for for them but with them. They're sick and tired of the rhetoric from stupid liberals...specifically since 62% of them are Hispanic themselves.
IN any case, the ones to blame are the illegal aliens.

Are they concentrating people in a faculty where they sleep overnight and aren’t allowed to leave?